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For the lucky people who got their Kaisers already, would you please report your experience regarding the built-in GPS please specially the initial cold fix as it was very slow with the Trinity P3600
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
Agreed; and, at least in Google Maps, the position is more accurate than the Ameo.
For batterie Life
Hello,
Can you post hte comment of batterie life when you use the GPS.
For example: the phone
the telephone is load completely (100% full batterie) and when you use 1 hour of gps
how much battery it remains?
Thanks.
Private69.
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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sorry for a stupid question, do u use tomtom 6 to check the number of satellites? i cant get my gps to start working at all.
Wiz said:
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
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Am running 6.030 now!
Don't ask me how or why but it's working fine.
Joe
I now verified that on TT6.030 you have to use "Other NMEA GPS/4800Bd/Com 4: and on TT6.032 you can stay with "Internal GPS"
In any case, TT6.032 with "Internal GPS" the fix is aqcuired a lot faster than on TT6.030
TT6.032 is supplied with the TyTNN II on the accompanying CDRom
(TT6.032 incidentally does not allow itself to be installed on any other device, the installer prevents that, but after installation on the TyTN II, the directory can be copied to for instance the x7500 to replace the old installation there, and it will work fine. My first impression is that also on the x7500 with TT6.032 the fix is faster, but I still need to run the "dinner table test" )
its working fine now after i installed the version on the cd. thanks. my MapKing chinese version also working, GREAT!
When you use tt6.32 from the CD, can you use any tt6 map? or is it locked to 1 map only?
Can you have multiple maps with the tt6.32 from the CD?
Can you confirm that the version supplied with TyTn II i.e., TomTom 6.0.32, is a FULL version ? Licences? or is it a taster and you have to pay to register it as a full version? If it is full, does it come with Great Britain Maps (full) or you have to download them? In case of download, is it free?
Thanks
The CD version of TT 6.032 that comes with the Kaiser is as full as an update one would dowload from TomTom. There is no code. There are no maps either. One can download one area map (f.i. London) for free, but no country or continent maps are added. Those will have to be purchased separately.
If you install it on top of an already installed and registered TT6.0x0, it will not ask for a new code. Any old registration will remain valid.
On another note, sitting side by side in my car, I noticed that the x7500's GPS reception was a lot more consistent then the TyTNN II's. The TyTN II may acquire its fix a lot faster, but on the whole, the x7500's reception is better (even though my "dinner table test" would lead to believe otherwise) and more consistent.
While my x7500 had a permanent reception of 9-10 satellites (albeit with shorter bars) the TyTN II was jumping up and down between 3 and 7 satellites.
I currently use my Hermes in an 'in car' holder, with a bluetooth GPS reciever face up in the window. One thing that I would like to know, is that if I was to get a Kaiser and put it into my car holder, surely the orientation of the GPS reciever inside the Kaiser would be 'end on' to the sky, and the satelites.
This must affect performance?
I got mine this morning. Took me quite a while to get GPS working -- had to do a hard reset. It's now working with Route 66, which I used to use on my Wizard.
GPS data seems a bit bursty -- when I was viewing it with GPSViewer, I'd get a bunch of NMEA strings, then nothing for several seconds, then another burst.
Hum..seems to be same issue than Paul from Modaco :
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly." ?
Seems that HTC did not fix it in the final ROM.
Do you know if HTC is aware of this issue and plan to fix it ?
Thanks
don't know if i've encountered the bug but here's my situation: i cannot get the GPS Hardware Port (or COM) settings to "stick" after changing them. for example i can change GPS Program Port and it will stick but changing the Hardware Port and clicking OK has no impact. if i reopen the GPS settings, the Hardware Port shows "(NONE)". and this is after 4 hard resets. funny thing is that is worked when i initially set up my device, then all of a sudden, TT6 was reporting "No GPS Device"... it may be time to pack it up and return it for a replacement... any suggestions would be appreciated.
Update: Followed Paul's (on Modaco) suggestion to leave the default settings and now GPS is working.
Which Navigation programs work in landscape mode???
for those of you with a Tytn II, are you able to modify the GPS Hardware COM port from one setting to another? the fact that mine says "(NONE)" is leading me to believe i have a hardware defective unit. thanks.
Kaiser and mapking 2007
ive tried mapking 07 on kaiser and it doesnt work. It juz cannot pinpoint the location that I am at. I wonder if its the software problem??
I installed TOM-TOM from the HTC CD and it has worked with out problems, even installed US MAPS from another Tom-Tom CD I have from the original version. Only problem so far, once I was using it and received an SMS message and it locked up. Had to restart. Receiving email is fine but the SMS message freaked it out.
I have just taken delivery of the new Orange HTC TyTN II and all is going well. Typically they have removed many great apps, including the Internet Calling, HTC Home and Touch stuff and other HTC includes.
The TomTom 6 Navigator that some are reporting comes with the HTC version is not included with this, so I have installed the version I had installed from CD on my Hermes (SPV M3100).
The problem is that even when updated to version 6.030, the app simply cannot connect to the GPS. How can I a) check that Orange have not removed that and b) configure the GPS control panel to work.
This is driving me barmy!!!!
(On a seperate note, is there a single list of the great CABs for the Kaiser - rather than 52 pages of a thread?!)
The cabs are all in the first few posts...
My O Tytn2 works fine with GPS... just look at the EXTERNAL GPS settings for com and speed and use them on Tom Tom?
Orange Tytn II
Is that Uk Orange .... are they calling it Tytn II or is it an SPV no.
I wasn't aware that this had been released by orange yet
Uk Orange. HTC Tytn 2 branding
Released last week.
Tom Tom 6 on Orange
if you go on to the tom tom site and under support just type built in gps
there is a tutorial for another phone but it works on tytn II
why do orange play around with the roms and remove things
has anyone tried the cooked roms on orange.
i read a post that someone who did it cannot use any network cards
steven
Hi, I've searched but can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Will iGo work on the XDA Stellar without re-flashing the ROM? I've read somewhere about O2 not allowing the use of certain GPS programs.
Can anyone confirm that they have iGo working?
Many thanks, Mat.
I had iGo on the tilt and it worked, not sure what the Stellar model is.
The Stellar is an HTC Kaiser, but I've heard of O2 trying to prevent the installation of other GPS programs than the one they are selling...
Many thanks.
O2 punt CoPilot with the XDA's but i know TomTom absolutely works on the Steller so i'd imagine you can run pretty much any GPS app.
i-Go works Great on the TytnII and Tilt. I have them both and run i-Go everyday. I just wish i-Go would say what side of the street your destination is on.
works on my tilt, but kind of laggish with the pointer following where i'm at
Hi All - I can see a few post about the above software. Tom Tom are saying that V6 Navigator is not officially compatible with the Kaiser. Can I assume because there are manly positive posts about it here that it DOES work OK on the device?
I'm with O2 and although they sell (and I've bought) 'Co-Pilot', I been having a few problems with it triggering the message 'the server has been reset...blah...blah...all your data needs to be resynchronised' when I try and sync the device with Outlook. The resyncing is a L-o-n-g process and it wipes out all my quick dials too - ouch!) Co-Pilot Support have confirmed it's a known problem on some devices..so I'm not looking to fix this as O2 are sending me a credit)
Thanks
I got the "o2 Stellar" yesterday and TomTom 6 works fine.. Just find which com port the GPS is assigned to in Start -> Settings -> External GPS .. Then just assign TomTom to that com port via the configuration - I used "Other NMEA GPS Receiver" but I dont think it matters which option you choose aslong as you choose the right port.
TomTom 6 works brilliantly well on my "Stellar".
Got TomTom working on my AT&T Tilt. Pick other GPS receiver, Baud 9600, COM4.
Well, seeing as HTC sell the Tytn II with a trial version of Tomtom, you would rather expect it to work!
Got tomtom v6 working perfectly fine on my tilt with duttys v3 rom. Like posted above, most likely its com 4. Initial start takes about 30 seconds but after that full blast reception.
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Well, seeing as HTC sell the Tytn II with a trial version of Tomtom, you would rather expect it to work!
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TomTom is not trial, it's special Kaiser full version.
stevep said:
Hi All - I can see a few post about the above software. Tom Tom are saying that V6 Navigator is not officially compatible with the Kaiser. Can I assume because there are manly positive posts about it here that it DOES work OK on the device?
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The Tytn II ships with a "Taster" edition of TomTom 6 (version 6.032). Thus I expect TomTom support the platform
Actually I have a "Pukka" copy of the "Navigator 6 software and maps of western Europe", and have raised a few calls about the software (the version on my CD shipped with V6.010, so I asked for latest specifying my exact device, and was pointed to the "downloads" area of tomtom website (version 6.030 is there))
I'm with O2 and although they sell (and I've bought) 'Co-Pilot', I been having a few problems with it triggering the message 'the server has been reset...blah...blah...all your data needs to be resynchronised' when I try and sync the device with Outlook. The resyncing is a L-o-n-g process and it wipes out all my quick dials too - ouch!) Co-Pilot Support have confirmed it's a known problem on some devices..so I'm not looking to fix this as O2 are sending me a credit)
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T-Mobile now offer Co-Pilot with its Tytn II varient (MDA Vario III)
Having had a quick "play" with a co-pilot system, it looked fancier (and has a better "Licensing" policy than tomtom) however I preferred the TomTom software (my Girlfriend has an old TomTom Go)
I have TomTom traffic and Safety camera's options purchase and find these excellent
If you can test co-pilot you might prefer it. I preferred tomtom
Always worked flawlessly on my HTC Kaiser, never messed with gps settings either
Tom Tom and Co Pilot
Thanks everyone. I'm going to purchase Tom Tom as Co Pilot caused a few serious problems on my Stellar
But you should have TomTom already if you own Kaiser device...
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But you should have TomTom already if you own Kaiser device...
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true... plus, there's always *other* ways of getting TOMTOM
Older version also works, but the 6.032 has "Build-in GPS receiver" option. In older you need to manually set it up as other NMEA receiver. In Poland EraGSM (soon to be T-Mobile) provide Vario III with full version of TT6 with regional maps.
I'm running TomTom that's "for the Trinity" from HTC e-club. I used the same thing on my Trinity and it auto picked up the internal, and has internal GPS setting. On my Tilt, this option is not available, but picked other, baud 9600, com 4 and it works nice and fast
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Hey all, been running tomtom 6.032 on my o2 Stellar with absolutly no problems at all!! It is by far the best sat nav for pocket pc. I have tried most programs out there but tomtom wins hands down for speed, stability and performance.. 10/10
I agree duncstar- have tried iGo and Navigon but TomTom is far quicker and more stable.
Out of interest, can someone calify the differences between the TomTom Taster and regular TomTom?
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TomTom is not trial, it's special Kaiser full version.
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No its not - its not special in any way. You have to buy any of the maps you wish to use (except for the 'free' city map they give you).
I installed TomTom Navigator 6 V6.010 with 6.75 US/Canada maps into my Tilt...everything works except one feature in the point of interest. It doesn't list nearby "stores" in the Los Angeles. Only show Apple etc. stores that are in the east coast, what gives? What can I do to fix this? thanks
Thanks for help
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Hey all, been running tomtom 6.032 on my o2 Stellar with absolutly no problems at all!! It is by far the best sat nav for pocket pc. I have tried most programs out there but tomtom wins hands down for speed, stability and performance.. 10/10
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Thanks Duncstar for your help. Especially as you're an O2 user in the UK too Thanks also to everyone else who offered advice and pointed me in the right direction. I did read some stuff about 'maps not showing up'. Duncstar - Did yours work literally 'straight out of the box'?
I have an imported Kaiser here in the US. Tom Tom works perfectly. I bought the usa/canada maps from amazon for $125. Installed it and no issues. I did have to select the gps, used 57,000 baud, com 4 and it's great.
There's also a "quick gps" application on your phone. Use it to help zero in the gps even better. It wants to run once a week.
I also bought and installed the Mr. T voice and I'm officially the biggest nerd on my block now. Turn Right Sucka!
Oh yeah, I"m not sure which version of TT6 was on my kaiser. When I installed the purchased software, it loaded up version 6.010. I had to go to tom tom's website and download the 6.030 version.
Hi, i work everyday yesterday and today trying to make the destinator 6 work,
I use the duttýs feb.08 rom and radio i also try a lot, i am using now, the 1.58.21.23 NIKI
The problem is i can found the Gps port with destination configurations on COM4, 115200 , NMEA but WHEN I PUT IN THE SCREEN TO FIND THE GPS POSITIONS, I READ A MESSAGE " GPS ANTENNA NOT FOUND"
I only make it work emulating the gps position with FRASON GPSGATE .
I think the problem is the time or delay of antennas, what ca i do?
NOTE: AFTER A DESINSTALL THE FRASON GPS GATE I DO A HARD RESET.
tHANKS
FLAVIO MARTINS
SAO PAULO-SP
BRAZIL
any news?
Anyone have any news?
Flavio,
I installed destinator 6.1 and I'm having the same problem. It finds the GPs and keep changing from " GPS Antenna found" and "GPS Antenna not found" in each 2 seconds.
Is it the same problem that you are having?
I'm using Confused Stu's Windows Vista 1.3 Cooked Rom with Radio Ver 1.65.14.06 and Destinator 6 works perfectly
C
I'm using Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
Destinator 7 work fine (downloaded a trial version) but id doesn`t have the language that I need, so I rather use Destinator 6.
Tried several versions of this ROM (Cube, no Cube and lite) and in everyone the same thing happens: It keep changing from "GPS Antenna found" "GPS Antenna nof found" every 3 seconds.
I think I gonna try one WM6.0 ROM to see if it works. I'll try Sleuth 1.2 first, than Confused Stu's Windows Vista 1.3 Cooked Rom.
Thanks
Try 6.0 NOT 6.1
Hi everyone,
This is my first post here and I would like to share my experience with the WM6.1 update and Destinator. I had been using an Asus n30 and for that to work I had to install Destinator 6.1.1 otherwise it would loose GPS etc. When I tried the same 6.1.1 update on my Kaiser (Vodafone version) with WM6.0 it worked basically but when I drove at higher speeds above 140-160 km/h (here in Germany this is quite a normal speed on the highway) the display would freeze and stop updating and I would no longer get voice instructions from Destinator.
So I had the crazy idea to update to WM6.1 to fix this...Big mistake...at first
Well as you have also found out it made things worse and I got the "GPS Antenna not Connected" issue.
I was able to solve my problem after a lot of tinkering with different radios and two ROM images one from Vodafone UK (3.28) and the last ROM posted from Dutty - which I am using now great stuff! both are WM6.1. What helped solve the problem was to revert back to Destinator 6.0 i.e. the original version from the CD-Rom that I had bought. After deleting the 6.1.1 version and installing 6.0 everything was fine no more "GPS antenna not connected" and no more freezes even when driving at over 200 km/h (130 Mph).
My guess is that the 6.1.1 update was optimized for slower devices like my n30 but the measures taken in that update that made slower PDAs work with WM3 SE were counter productive under a more modern OS like WM6.x
Even though this took me 3 days and a lot of head scratching to figure out I am very happy I did go through this process. Now thanks to this great community I have learned to flash Hard SPLs, change my ROMs as I please and as a result I have a much more powerful Kaiser . All of this despite what the lady at the Vodafone hotline told e "you can not use an update from the UK...or from HTC" ha ha .
I hope this may help some of the other users who have destinator 6 trouble.
Cheers
htpcman
Kaiser Problems
i have an htc 8900 series(its called the ATT tilt in the States, i think its called the Kaiser everywhere else) and i'm having problems with WM6 and desitnator 6. i installed it as instructed and when i try to open the program it seems like it tries to open it, but nothing happens and i get taken back to the today screen. i've even uninstalled the program and sent all the installation files from my ASUS 696 via bluetooth to my phone's card, but that didn't work either. Dest 6 works perfectly on the ASUS.
On my phone, GPS settings are Program port Com4, GPS hardware port (none), baud rate 4800. And the phone will not let me change the baud rate or the hardward port. It doesnt' save my changes. ANy help is appreciated.
Thanks