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Hi, I tried searching, but could not seem to find an answer for this. I am currently using Advanced Task Manager, however, I find that there will always be about 3-6 applications that runs by itself after half an hour of idleness.
My question: Is there an application that limits the amount of background apps running on Android? Although I love multitasking, I think that there are some merit of being able to limit it to 2 or 3 apps running at anyone time, instead of constantly having to use ATM before running another app or doing something (to boost the performance).
Btw, I am using HTC Dream/G1 using CyanogenMod's latest. Thanks for any help and assistance on this.
Some of those apps have to be open
Ex.
I know settings appears in ADV task manager even though the phone has been on home.Camera seems to been on the list after doing some media things like viewing pics or music..
My point is I think theres a Autokill feat or you can get the 10MB if you really need the memory.You should try Super-D since you said your a multi-tasker, its alot faster after doing benchmarks and comparing both roms.Even bootup is faster but some say the new Wesgarner rom is faster than the two. i personally stick to the roms in my sig though.
In dev tools there is an option to limit the number of running apps to 1, 2, 3, or 4.
Ace42 said:
Some of those apps have to be open
Ex.
I know settings appears in ADV task manager even though the phone has been on home.Camera seems to been on the list after doing some media things like viewing pics or music..
My point is I think theres a Autokill feat or you can get the 10MB if you really need the memory.You should try Super-D since you said your a multi-tasker, its alot faster after doing benchmarks and comparing both roms.Even bootup is faster but some say the new Wesgarner rom is faster than the two. i personally stick to the roms in my sig though.
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Thanks for the advice on ROM... I have heard many good things on Super-D. I'll try that
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In dev tools there is an option to limit the number of running apps to 1, 2, 3, or 4.
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Thanks for the help. Where do I access Dev Tools? I cannot seem to find it.
erlern said:
Thanks for the help. Where do I access Dev Tools? I cannot seem to find it.
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It is in almost all of the developer's ROMS in XDA, Cyanogen, TheOfficial, xROM, etc. Just look in the app drawer.
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It is in almost all of the developer's ROMS in XDA, Cyanogen, TheOfficial, xROM, etc. Just look in the app drawer.
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Thanks. Got it. Didn't notice that app till now.
When I wiped my ext partition and had maybe 20 default apps on, the app launcher moved like a beast, instant, basically like the godly iphone UI + a discrete adjuster.
However now I'ved restored my 250ish apps/elements it now lags like a mofo. What I want to know is what physically is being limited hardware wise, and is there any way to boost the performance of this memory? I assume it would be between CPU, RAM and GPU, although I dont understand how it could be annoy of those [sorry for my noobishness]:
CPU: Snapdragon, OCed, not exactly CPU intensive anyway
RAM: Have 250MB free, never seems to get 'full' when i quickly tab to the usage
GPU: This is what I guess, but if so why cant we get around this with a less intensive menu setup? Surely all that is happening is we have 20-25 icons + labels floating up and down on a screen? To be honest id prefer literally just that on an instant screen over the 'oo that looks nice.... oh wait it lags like a *****' we have now.
Any comments would be appreciated
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well, one thing which would probably slow down the launcher is the sd card speed... and considering u've got a helluva lot of apps on ur sd card, it seems like a plausable reason...
Is anyone able to confirm that? Surely though its precached the icons and names somewhere though :/
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Is anyone able to confirm that? Surely though its precached the icons and names somewhere though :/
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if you use CM rom you can go to spare parts and enable "keep launcher in memory" that usually helps a lot
I have Kang, so has a launcher over CM. The setting was enabled, but i dissabled and renabled to see if that was a problem. Possibly did solve a bit of it, but it still takes at least half a second for the menu to catch up with my finger, even including 'touch lag'. The only way you can see what I mean is if you play with an empty phone, its INSTANT.
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I have Kang, so has a launcher over CM. The setting was enabled, but i dissabled and renabled to see if that was a problem. Possibly did solve a bit of it, but it still takes at least half a second for the menu to catch up with my finger, even including 'touch lag'. The only way you can see what I mean is if you play with an empty phone, its INSTANT.
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probably some runaway apps taking a toll on ram and system resources.
i did a major clean up yesterday and my phone is zippier than ever
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Is anyone able to confirm that? Surely though its precached the icons and names somewhere though :/
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You mean the activity/app choice list right? (like when you make a application shortcut, or view installed applications). It does lag when you have a lot of apps. If it does cache the data its definitely short-term, if you try it again after a day its slow the first time.
Lets hope froyo has something to make it faster, systemwide.
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You mean the activity/app choice list right? (like when you make a application shortcut, or view installed applications). It does lag when you have a lot of apps. If it does cache the data its definitely short-term, if you try it again after a day its slow the first time.
Lets hope froyo has something to make it faster, systemwide.
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Sorry, if there is any misunderstanding I am talking about the app menu, where you go to open your apps from the home page.
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Sorry, if there is any misunderstanding I am talking about the app menu, where you go to open your apps from the home page.
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ok, I dont have noticeable lag with my 140 apps. I have a 6 column launcher too
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ok, I dont have noticeable lag with my 140 apps. I have a 6 column launcher too
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I assume the only difference between our phones then is SD card.
I have http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001CQT0X4/ref=oss_product
EDIT: http://www.steelbytes.com/?mid=20&cmd=download&pid=1&lang=eng I used that and got a read speed of 3mb/s, could you do the same so we can see if its that?
Cheers.
then is SD card.
I have http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001CQT0X4/ref=oss_product
EDIT: http://www.steelbytes.com/?mid=20&cmd=download&pid=1&lang=eng I used that and got a read speed of 3mb/s, could you do the same so we can see if its that?
Cheers.
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for my Ridata 16GB (class6/6x), tested by mounting and via usb.
Read: 3.1 MB/sec (approx 20x)
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for my Ridata 16GB (class6/6x), tested by mounting and via usb.
Read: 3.1 MB/sec (approx 20x)
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Hmmm :/ So its not my SD card. I just dont understand why it physically lags, when I watch people showcasing some new app etc, their menu is perfectly fluid, even with a similar number of apps.
Anyone have any other ideas?
I'm have had my hero for about half a year and have tried alot of different. Roms but all of them still run slow.
So I was hoping someone could give me instructions and download links on how I could get my phobe to run as fast as it possibly can
Thanks for all that help me
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I'm have had my hero for about half a year and have tried alot of different. Roms but all of them still run slow.
So I was hoping someone could give me instructions and download links on how I could get my phobe to run as fast as it possibly can
Thanks for all that help me
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Go read this thread and use that kernel with the ROM recommended there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
Try Darchdroid or you can wait until the get all the bugs worked out of the Froyo rom. I have been running the froyo rom since June 25th and it is fast.
Sense is eating up alot of your speed .
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Try Darchdroid or you can wait until the get all the bugs worked out of the Froyo rom. I have been running the froyo rom since June 25th and it is fast.
Sense is eating up alot of your speed .
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Sorry to say this but sense doesn't slow my rom down one bit. Its all in ur head. I've got my rom oc'd and have multiple launchers including sense and there is no speed difference. Actually it is quite fast.
I just downloaded Fresh 2.3.3
I just downloaded fresh 2.3.3 and its pretty quick, you will of course need a task killer, im using AutoKiller set to aggressive in the presets. I am considering overclocking it but havent yet
Question: what exactly is it about a particular ROM that makes it fast? JIT? For example, everyone says Darchdroid is fast. What about it that makes it so? A lot also say Fresh, HoneyBun, and nfinitefx's ROM are fast. I know they all support OC, but all things equal, is there an agreed speed tier list?
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Question: what exactly is it about a particular ROM that makes it fast? JIT? For example, everyone says Darchdroid is fast. What about it that makes it so? A lot also say Fresh, HoneyBun, and nfinitefx's ROM are fast. I know they all support OC, but all things equal, is there an agreed speed tier list?
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What affects the speed is the number of apps (as well as their optimizations), overclocking, JIT, the ROM base, and the Launcher. The number of apps affects the phone's memory. More memory = less lag generally (apps2sd corrects this issue). Overclocking, of course, increases the raw speed of the ROM. JIT helps apps lag less (games pretty much). The ROM base is a big factor. Basically HTC ROM's have more bloat in them than AOSP ROM's, so AOSP runs faster almost all the time. The Launcher also affects the speed because large launchers such as Sense take up more RAM. The generic, vanilla launcher is extremely minimal and therefore doesn't use as much RAM. So if you can optimize the heck out of Sense, then it will run faster.
drop it out of a plane.
My Experiences:
I have tried JIT, AOSP ROM , Sense + OC, and Sense. And now I am back at Sense + OC. Here are my opinions:
- JIT:
Pro: App loading + executing is much faster
Con: Phone run HOT + lower Baterry life + Bugs (Hopefully FROYO solve this)
- OC:
Pro: This speed up the system significantly.
Con: None or not yet
- ROM that has tweaks in the following areas will help speed up the phone:
1) Low memory killer tweak to prvovide more RAM (aggressively to kill hidden app, content provider and Empty app)
2) CPU Threshold setting at lower value (instead of default at 80%) --> Cost battery life but much quicker response at UI interface level.
My phone is fast and stable with Sense + OC at the moment. The wishes that I have for my phone now is:
1. Install more RAM .. hehheh not possible
2. Move Dalvik cache to phone internal cache space like Darch Droid
3. A Kernel that OC the GPU
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What affects the speed is the number of apps (as well as their optimizations), overclocking, JIT, the ROM base, and the Launcher. The number of apps affects the phone's memory. More memory = less lag generally (apps2sd corrects this issue). Overclocking, of course, increases the raw speed of the ROM. JIT helps apps lag less (games pretty much). The ROM base is a big factor. Basically HTC ROM's have more bloat in them than AOSP ROM's, so AOSP runs faster almost all the time. The Launcher also affects the speed because large launchers such as Sense take up more RAM. The generic, vanilla launcher is extremely minimal and therefore doesn't use as much RAM. So if you can optimize the heck out of Sense, then it will run faster.
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idk about that. i tried dd2.7 yesterday for the first time. i wiped and installed 7 times to get it to run fast. enabled jit, flashed uv kernel,i had nothing installed at the time and no lw and it was 70% slower than my nfinite rom. i honestly dont know why everyone says dd is so fast. it literally took 15 seconds just to open up the dialer. i even restarted the phone several time so it would zipalign everything. and yes i wiped everything including ext.
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idk about that. i tried dd2.7 yesterday for the first time. i wiped and installed 7 times to get it to run fast. enabled jit, flashed uv kernel,i had nothing installed at the time and no lw and it was 70% slower than my nfinite rom. i honestly dont know why everyone says dd is so fast. it literally took 15 seconds just to open up the dialer. i even restarted the phone several time so it would zipalign everything. and yes i wiped everything including ext.
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When you first install a rom you will need to wait until the phone is done loading everything. Usually people try to open stuff before everything has been finalized and so it will open slower. I love sense, but in my opinion it is slower, but that might have been because I didn't OC it.
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When you first install a rom you will need to wait until the phone is done loading everything. Usually people try to open stuff before everything has been finalized and so it will open slower. I love sense, but in my opinion it is slower, but that might have been because I didn't OC it.
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im not that much of a newb lolol yeah i always let it sit. even after the syncing is done i still let it sit. fresh and nfinitfx45's new sense roms are actually blazing fast!
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im not that much of a newb lolol yeah i always let it sit. even after the syncing is done i still let it sit. fresh and nfinitfx45's new sense roms are actually blazing fast!
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My rom is now based off the new fresh and is oc'd. Its just as fast if not faster.
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idk about that. i tried dd2.7 yesterday for the first time. i wiped and installed 7 times to get it to run fast. enabled jit, flashed uv kernel,i had nothing installed at the time and no lw and it was 70% slower than my nfinite rom. i honestly dont know why everyone says dd is so fast. it literally took 15 seconds just to open up the dialer. i even restarted the phone several time so it would zipalign everything. and yes i wiped everything including ext.
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Has to be something you are not doing or your phone. I am running darchdroid 2.7 right now and it is hands down FASTER than any other ROM I have tried. I have the UV kernel installed as well. Most key presses are instant. Did you set the transitions to fast or turn them off altogether? That makes a big difference.
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Has to be something you are not doing or your phone. I am running darchdroid 2.7 right now and it is hands down FASTER than any other ROM I have tried. I have the UV kernel installed as well. Most key presses are instant. Did you set the transitions to fast or turn them off altogether? That makes a big difference.
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i did everything right. like i do with all my roms. i always turn the window and transition animation to off. that makes it so much faster then if you turn it to fast. had that set to off,uv kernel flashed, let everything finish syncing,didnt even install anything. still took 15 seconds just to open up the dialer. my nfinite rom is super fast. the second i press on something it almost emediately comes up. almost **** bricks at how fast it was
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i did everything right. like i do with all my roms. i always turn the window and transition animation to off. that makes it so much faster then if you turn it to fast. had that set to off,uv kernel flashed, let everything finish syncing,didnt even install anything. still took 15 seconds just to open up the dialer. my nfinite rom is super fast. the second i press on something it almost emediately comes up. almost **** bricks at how fast it was
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Well, it sounds like you have the ROM you like, stick with it. I have never seen the nfinite rom. Where is it found?
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Well, it sounds like you have the ROM you like, stick with it. I have never seen the nfinite rom. Where is it found?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 . i love it. OC to 710. window and transition animation set to off. task killer on auto. fast as ****
cp0020 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 . i love it. OC to 710. window and transition animation set to off. task killer on auto. fast as ****
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Ah, didn't realize that was the ROM you were talking about. I thought it was something else. I have really grown attached to the AOSP stuff, I think I'll stick with DD till his Froyo port is out.
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Ah, didn't realize that was the ROM you were talking about. I thought it was something else. I have really grown attached to the AOSP stuff, I think I'll stick with DD till his Froyo port is out.
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yeah i cant wait till that is complete. i just need fully functional camera+camcorder+mms. darch is uploading an updated foyo now with some fixes but now camera preview doesnt work. not even on 3d party camera apps. i mostly want it for gaming
cp0020 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 . i love it. OC to 710. window and transition animation set to off. task killer on auto. fast as ****
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Maybe you should update your signature . I'm curious, how's the speed/battery life of Fresh 2.3.3 compared to nfinitefx rom? I'm trying to decide which should be my first custom rom. Oh, and are you using the odex or deodex version?
Is there any way/app to change the screen rotation delay?
Sometimes more delay would be nice, and on rare occations a shorter delay... ie, when my asswipe iphone fanboy friend of mine comments on how "slow" the phone are
I try to tell him its an delay that are set, and not lagg but deaf ears...
Anyone know ho to do this?
Anyone have any input?
I am 99 % sure you can't make the device delay the rotation
It only depends on the CPU speed and memory usage (RAM usage).
Only suggestion would be to make the phone lag which is always an horrible idea
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I am 99 % sure you can't make the device delay the rotation
It only depends on the CPU speed and memory usage (RAM usage).
Only suggestion would be to make the phone lag which is always an horrible idea
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+1. Don't really think that there will ever be such a feature as most users will not really use it haha. Faster is always better to me
Well.. how to make it respond quicker then?
Im not talking about lag or rotation speed.. im talking about the delay from the time i flipp the phone to the screen starts to rotate
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First you want delay now you want it quicker???
Why do you need the delay and why do you need it to be quicker???
there probably will be a way to do it but to be honest no developer is going to sit down for hours trying to figure this out as there really is no need for it.
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First you want delay now you want it quicker???
Why do you need the delay and why do you need it to be quicker???
there probably will be a way to do it but to be honest no developer is going to sit down for hours trying to figure this out as there really is no need for it.
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If You had read my first post You would see i asked for BOTH... what does it matter... sometimes like when I need a wider keyboard, i would like it to change quick... when in galery it would be nice... sometime it would be nice to have it as it is today or even a few ms slower.. say when your reading documents, playing games (when You move the phone alot and dont want it to change emediately..)
there are alot of reasons for this feature, just because You'r happy with the delay.. Hey!... some are even ok with the stock ROM... but i dont argue with them...
Anyone else that have any info?.. or atleast give me som pointers in the right direction.. maby i'll be able to figure it out myself... just does'nt know where to start....
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If You had read my first post You would see i asked for BOTH... what does it matter... sometimes like when I need a wider keyboard, i would like it to change quick... when in galery it would be nice... sometime it would be nice to have it as it is today or even a few ms slower.. say when your reading documents, playing games (when You move the phone alot and dont want it to change emediately..)
there are alot of reasons for this feature, just because You'r happy with the delay.. Hey!... some are even ok with the stock ROM... but i dont argue with them...
Anyone else that have any info?.. or atleast give me som pointers in the right direction.. maby i'll be able to figure it out myself... just does'nt know where to start....
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Its possible....roman did it in the galaxy tab 10.1 pics aokp build with his from tools app..Not sure how
it is kind of possible (changing the screen rotation animation speed - making it look like instant rotate or slow screen rotate). Using Temaseks Kang with ICS transitions - you can go to "Spare Parts" app (downloadable via market in case you don't have it in your rom), scroll down to Transition animation and experiment. I'd guess it's not the solution you wanted, but close enough.
A smart App on the Market available for free : SmartRotator
You can choose which applications enables/disables the screen rotation
I use it since few days, it does it job.
(Don't remember if it needs root access or not, but I don't think so)
information about how android orientation detection works
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am I late to the party??1?
attempt to document android orientation detection :cyclops:
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am I late to the party??1?
attempt to document android orientation detection :cyclops:
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wow, that was... late..
Well.. i have since changed my phone (several times), but the problem persists
Hello!
My Ace has a problem. Maybe is not only may Ace, but the thing is, sometimes it turns to be verry slow...I mean, realy slow. This, most of the times, happens after he is in standby mode for a long time.
So, my question is: What is the best rom for resolving this problem, keapping everything working properly?
Thanks
Miguel
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MorcegoChakal said:
Hello!
My Ace has a problem. Maybe is not only may Ace, but the thing is, sometimes it turns to be verry slow...I mean, realy slow. This, most of the times, happens after he is in standby mode for a long time.
So, my question is: What is the best rom for resolving this problem, keapping everything working properly?
Thanks
Miguel
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I had a custom lockscreen that was very slow. If its when you unlock/bring out of standby then it might be the same thing. Use a small (filesize small) lockscreen and see if that helps. If its large and uses 3d etc then yes, it is slow.
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I had a custom lockscreen that was very slow. If its when you unlock/bring out of standby then it might be the same thing. Use a small (filesize small) lockscreen and see if that helps. If its large and uses 3d etc then yes, it is slow.
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The one I use is the original one, from gingerbread...
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The one I use is the original one, from gingerbread...
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another possible explanation is that some people install battery management profiles eg: cpu tuner.
in this case people somtimes apply an overly restrictive cpu profile on the "screen off" profile so it uses only a small amount of battery. While this does indeed save battery, it also causes there to be a larger delay than normal when unlocking the device from deep sleep.
Pete
Try increasing CPU mhz.You can also try tweaking minfree values. one easy way to that is to use ROM toolbox pro Or use RAM manager from the market to give your ace more RAM
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I had a custom lockscreen that was very slow. If its when you unlock/bring out of standby then it might be the same thing. Use a small (filesize small) lockscreen and see if that helps. If its large and uses 3d etc then yes, it is slow.
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allebone said:
another possible explanation is that some people install battery management profiles eg: cpu tuner.
in this case people somtimes apply an overly restrictive cpu profile on the "screen off" profile so it uses only a small amount of battery. While this does indeed save battery, it also causes there to be a larger delay than normal when unlocking the device from deep sleep.
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Try increasing CPU mhz.You can also try tweaking minfree values. one easy way to that is to use ROM toolbox pro Or use RAM manager from the market to give your ace more RAM
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I'll try that...or even other roms...thanks everyone!