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on the hunt for a symbian based site similar to xda-developers

Hello!
firstly, thanks to everyone for such a fantastic resource. I always enjoy reading about the latest bits of user made software and trying out delicious freshly baked roms...
I have been a winmo user for about 5 years now (many MANY phones ) but, sadly, i have just purchased a nokia N95 8Gb (i basically couldn't refuse the offer) but one thing that really annoys me about it (and i havent got it yet! it arrives tomorrow) is the lack of intelligent, and credible sources of user discussion and content generation (such as this fantastic site). I really will miss it!
Does anyone know of a good symbian forum/irc/site in a similar vain to xda-dev? I have visited www.allaboutsymbian.com and wasnt impressed with the manner or technical level of its users... maby i just didnt dig deep enough.
Anyway, thanks again!
wish me luck on the s60 side... ill have a tytnII if it all goes tits up
Ant

I spit in the face of Symbian!Ptui!! Although,you could go over to mobiholics.com, I know youll be back soon because we all know youre going over there to sell the phone.

i got a p1i, and my super device of all time, the athena has since been neglected... maybe that will change with the release of the real athena project rom..
so i too am looking for symbian-developers.com
Rory

Blackstone Android Kernel Project

I would like to kick this project back off following the withdrawal of tuxhero.
After putting the feelers out and speaking with the developer responsible for the vogue android Kernel build & port I would like to Try and bring those guys onboard and am looking at a way to source them with a device. Further conversations need to take place and definitive project scope and tasks defined with much more transparent approach to the code development.
I have registered androidkernel.com and am asking for feedback from you all on how you think you would like things to pan out. My role is with Project Management and have a wealth of experience in that area, so I would be looking to appoint a team of people to work on the project and either set bounties for milestones or listen to other options and feedback on reaching our project goals.
Hopefully something of value can be achieved and I would be grateful to hear from the previous developers for any assistance available. We can create a website or use github or google code, opinions wanted and lets not rule anything out.
Sangreal

I would be glad to help out with this project. But since I dont have much time (I work 8-10hours/day as a developer) I would be glad if this would be an open development for all to contribute to.
Also it would be nice if the technical documents that Tuxhero has was posted to the developers so that they could be able to make progress faster.
Lets hope we can get android for our device.

I'm in agreement totally - open source, more transparency would be the aim.

very nice ...
but we should ask tuxhero, to share his researched information and diffs.

tuxhero actually didn't get anything done at all. He was making fake posts but in reality he wasn't doing anything.

Lets try not to get into any of that, but I agree there was very little transparency or visibility of code development.
I have asked Tuxhero if he could handover documentation and anything else to kickstart things so whether that is provided we shall see.
Sangreal

sangreal said:
I would like to kick this project back off following the withdrawal of tuxhero.
After putting the feelers out and speaking with the developer responsible for the vogue android Kernel build & port I would like to Try and bring those guys onboard and am looking at a way to source them with a device. Further conversations need to take place and definitive project scope and tasks defined with much more transparent approach to the code development.
I have registered androidkernel.com and am asking for feedback from you all on how you think you would like things to pan out. My role is with Project Management and have a wealth of experience in that area, so I would be looking to appoint a team of people to work on the project and either set bounties for milestones or listen to other options and feedback on reaching our project goals.
Hopefully something of value can be achieved and I would be grateful to hear from the previous developers for any assistance available. We can create a website or use github or google code, opinions wanted and lets not rule anything out.
Sangreal
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You should get in contact with TuxHero at least to ask about his technical documentation on the Blackstone and also if he is able to share any code. There is no harm in two teams working on this brilliant project!
So are the Vogue team really willing to try and crack the Blackstone? Do they need an actual handset?
Edit: If you actually managed to WORK WITH Tux that would be awesome

Transparacy is the clue.. there are a lot of smart heads here that may decide to contribute if the project is open for all..
good luck guys..

Good luck with the management Sangreal, its looking good!
Hope you can gather a good team.

nizzon said:
Good luck with the management Sangreal, its looking good!
Hope you can gather a good team.
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Allthough I do not use the Touch HD for the moment, I wish You all the best. I'm sure You will make it!
If TuxHero does not provide You with the documents he got, I say his intension was only to get 5 minutes of fame.

im happy this project has started, but what plan do you have in mind to get the vogue developers a blackstone? What i mean to say is that even though the blackstone is starting to get a tad dated, its still a very expensive device.

maybe you could get the donation pot from the other thread. that just about added up to the cost of a blackst... oh.

This sounds great.
let us keep this thread clean of the thing other people have done in the past.
and support the topic starter with every bit of information we could give.
i hope he could build a android kernel for the blackstone.

Just a suggestion..
Perhaps the following thing to do would be to list things what needs to be done, what is high priority and is related to what. Also if the task/s could be categorized by difficulty (read: time expected to complete).
Then after we have a list, we can start addressing task/s to people or smaller teams.
I also suggest that there would be some kind of progress bar per task (how much is completed of the task and what is the estimated time for the task to be 100% complete, what is working and what is not). Then there would be no need for people to ask questions like "when is this ready?".
The last thing I would suggest is that we make a list of people that are willing to contribute and with what (read: I would like to contribute and I have skills in ______________)
I would like to contribute with code but I have no experience of hardware coding so I guess it is better I stand aside. However, if You need a forum setup (live chat etc etc), just let me know. I do not want to step on any toes but if you need someone to help with trying to manage the project, I'm absolutely willing to give a hand.

My developing skills are close to none existent,
however any designs (web design, graphic designs and stuff like that) i can do well (or atleast other people think so)
I can also do any testing, if any of this may be useful, let me know.
- Dan

Thanks for all the suggestions so far and I will get in touch with those who have offered skills in other areas to assist where possible, I appreciate a lot of people are waiting for some value in this port and at least a fully implemented kernel.
It will take a couple of days for me to touch base with some of the developers on here and I will need to discuss things in more detail with them whilst at the same time getting the base requirements fulfilled on which to start the project off properly, after which there will be a kick off in some form.
My intention regarding getting a device for them if needed was to contribute myself as well as set up donations however bearing in mind the debacle of people donating before and nothing really progressing I am somewhat conscious of doing this properly and not in the business of obtaining something for nothing so definitely need some good suggestions on that aspect.

make a bounty

no donation, get that f**king thing out of your mind... as soon as the project is done, then open it. Not that I don't value WIP, but otherwise it will only lead to the same disasters we had in the last two attempts... (and I'm not talking about the other devices or other development attempts)
"oh yeah, why is the thing not out yet"
or
"we gave you money, where's the progress"
will be questions we always will see, even if that person didn't donate.
Let money out of the game, it spoils everything.

I personally would still love to wait for tuxhero. Not because I have donated, but simiply believe that good people is all around. BTW, it is always good to have more and more developer to join. Thanks everyone.

Apparently cash is going to be the pilot light and life cycle motivator of such a massive project. Qualified developers a project manager and loads of volunteers. The consensus is $50 (US) per person. That seems far too inexpensive if such a project is to reach a satisfactory conclusion. I agree, giving up our hard earned cash to persons unknown, for unknown effort is not a productive way to go.
What is needed is an escrow: Donations held until specific milestones area reach, as predetermined. Personally, I don't want to give, for example, $250 and some one else $50, with the expectation we each receive the same result. Then again, if specific donations are mandated then this becomes a private project. Oh boy! Back to square one.
No, here's the deal: Each person donate what they want with the donation kept secrete. Either a service or a reputable member hold the donations, perhaps in a paypal account until a bounty release is authorized.
I'm a little less than optimistic, but I am quite agreeable (and already have) to donating to this worthy effort.

TxtWeb App2Fame Contest for Developers

Hi All,
I found this really interesting so thought of sharing it with you all.
This is about a very interesting contest 'txtweb app2fame'. All we need to do is develop simple apps based on SMS which work without the internet.
We all have been creating apps but never thought of developing such applications that are accessible by millions as not everyone uses internet on phone. It hardly takes couple of hours to create such applications and txtweb gives us the opportunity to win prizes like a dream holiday, ipad etc...
Great opportunity for students and new start ups to become famous. Check the URL below for more information about the contest: app2fame. com

Hey that's a good news... Thanks for sharing...
You're right all of us have created such apps at some point and they are really easy to develop moreover txtWeb makes it much simpler... So all that we need is a great idea... I guess this the first such contest happening in India.. Many of my friends have already submitted few apps and I'm hoping to submit my share as well..
Bingo txtWeb

Hi guys I have created one APP.... Help me win: SMS @tophostings to 9243342000 and you will receive a text back with a list of Top Hosting.. Really Easy to Develop.

Guys the last date for the submission of applications is 30th June. So hurry up..

XDA's Interview with CyanogenMod Developer Ricardo Cerqueira

XDA did a little interview with Ricardo Cerqueira, the CM mantainer of our phone, as wel as the one who opened the first path for ICS on the o2x. He tells how he first got into developing android and joined CM, as well as how he became the mantainer of most LG devices. There are some trivia and interesting things for us to note, and I just thought that the interview should be posted on this section too as people might have missed it in the xda front page.
Thanks to MUSTANGTIM 49 for doing the review, and of course Ricardo Cerqueira for his awesome work mantaining our beloved phone, enjoy the read!
In Android, every device has its Kung Fu master and for
anything LG, this master is CyanogenMod developer
Ricardo Cerqueira , otherwise known as XDA Recognized
Developer aremcee and cm_arcee . I know this first hand as
I am a proud owner of the LG G2x, a device that was
Ricardo’s daily driver for some 10 months.
We recently had the chance to have some one-on-one
time with Ricardo. Here is your chance to meet the man
behind the myth.
XDA : How did you first get into Android development?
Ricardo: I got into Android out of… boredom. I’ve been
working in IT since the late 90s, and eventually got to a
position that implied more meetings and presentations
than doing actually fun stuff, so I needed something to
get my fix. Android was all the rage at the time (3-
something years ago), so it was an easy choice.
XDA : What was your first Android device?
Ricardo: My first Android device was… the emulator, I
seriously played around with it for months, actual
android hardware was harder to come by where I
live. My first actual physical device was from a small
spanish company named Geeksphone, the Geeksphone
One. Crappy little device even for its time, but an excellent
learning platform, and the company was incredibly
supportive.
XDA : You list Lisbon, Portugal as your home, have you
always lived there?
Ricardo: Tough question… Yes and no. Family is
portuguese, but migrated to Canada in the 70s. They
returned to Portugal when I was 5.
XDA : Who is the “real” Ricardo Cerqueira?
Ricardo: The real me is father of one, husband of another,
and I like to think “overall regular guy” when away from
a keyboard.
XDA : What are your hobbies?
Ricardo: CM is my main hobby. Outside that, strictly
non-tech stuff, mostly gardening
XDA : Let’s talk CyanogenMod, you’ve got to tell us, where’s
the secret ”Bat Cave”?
Ricardo: No secret bat-cave, not even a secret
handshake. There’s an IRC channel where all of us hang
out, and yeah, from almost all over the world, US, of
course. Canada, Argentina, UK, Portugal, Spain, France,
Germany…Australia and I’m sure I’m forgetting
people, not to mention the translators, every continent
and a huge number of countries are represented from
that direction.
XDA : How does one become a member of the fabled
CyanogenMod team?
Ricardo: CM grows mostly from external contributors
that end up joining the party; the most frequent case is
people contributing support for new devices, but there are
also cases of people who submit so much stuff we just end
up asking them if they want to do it from the inside.
XDA: What makes up the majority of your duties at
CyanogenMod?
Ricardo: I do a bit of everything for CM, from
maintaining devices to reviewing code submissions. A lot
can be said to describe it, but boring is something it is not
XDA : How long have you been with CyanogenMod?
Ricardo: Hmm… let me check, since oct 2010, 20 months,
give or take.
XDA : What is the love affair between you and LG?
Ricardo: I do mostly LG devices because of the 2X,
actually. I just had to buy that dual-core goodness,
bought it, got CM on it, and then happened to meet an LG
guy at a conference; after nagging him about some of the
most annoying issues I had found in it, I was surprised
when LG called back.
XDA : Really? How did that go?
Ricardo: We had a nice, long conversation about what
and who CM was, they asked how they could help, so I
just threw my xmas list at them… and got a bunch of
“OK”s in return. LG has provided us with almost every
device they did since then, mostly to me, as well as a feel-
free-to-ask support channel if necessary. It has worked
out pretty well so far.
XDA : What has been your toughest project to date?
Ricardo: Most challenging project in CM… The starDOPs
(p990/p999). There were so many little nuts to crack, so
many tiny incompatibilities, that it took much longer
than usual to get everything that mattered working. For
that same reason, it’s also been my favorite. I love puzzles
XDA : I remember the morning you released “self-kang1″ for
the P990/P999.
Ricardo: True. I regret that decision, though.
XDA : Why?
Ricardo: Because it opened a can of worms that can’t be
closed again. Getting it to work needed some very ugly
workarounds that directly go against Google’s
compatibility document for ICS. An app developer
targeting ICS as a minimal version for his apps has the
right to expect some functionality to be guaranteed on a
device that claims to be ICS, that wasn’t (and isn’t) true
for ICS builds with these hacks. That’s one the main
reasons CM9 does not officially include a bunch of devices
that are “working.”
XDA : Well, you said it yourself, they were and are “hacks”.
Ricardo: Yes, and some users understand that, but a lot
don’t, and they’ll submit error reports on those apps, or
they’ll rate it badly at the Play store. This is not a
hypothetical scenario, it has happened whether we like it
or not, asked for it or not, CM’s userbase is large enough
to matter, even if you don’t count derivatives. We have a
responsibility not to cause that kind of grief to app
developers and we did. With all the mostly bull**** talk
about fragmentation, we actively contributed to a break
in the platform, no matter how small. That’s not a good
thing :X People SHOULD know these builds contain
hacks, but you’ve surely realized by now that they don’t
Thank you Ricardo for this interview. Also, on behalf of XDA
and myself, thank you to the entire CyanogenMod team for
all your hours of work and dedication.
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Original post: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
PS: Sorry if the format is a little bit messy, I'm posting this from a tablet. Will get things tidier when I get to a PC.

How can I miss this interview?
He answered it like a bloody genius!
Thanks for pointing out mate salam

[BOUNTY] Let's get PhantomHacker a Nexus 7 Fund [Pot: $30]

I hope that some of you are familiar with PhantomHacker and his contributions to the Android Development community. He has proven to be one of the most recognized ROM developers. Personally, I wait for confirmation that he'll be developing for a particular device before I even consider purchasing it. Ever since my Galaxy Tab 10.1 days (StarBurst ROM), I have declared my allegiance to his ROMs. This has carried over to the Samsung Galaxy SII and now the Samsung Galaxy SIII (Blazer ROMs). I could only imagine the types of things he would bring to the Nexus 7.
I inquired about him developing for the Nexus 7 and he said he would love the opportunity but doesn't have the funds to acquire one for himself. I told him I'd start this thread to appropriate enough funds so that we can get him one. Considering the fact that these devices cost so little, I figured, with your help, we could get there soon. I'd like to acquire enough funds to get him the 16GB version, but we'll settle with the 8GB if need be.
If you'd like more information about his work, check out these threads:
Sprint GS3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
AT&T GS3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815716
Sprint GS2 (Epic 4G Touch): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363071
Galaxy Tab 10.1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197776
You will notice that he remains very active in his threads and is constantly updating his work.
I will be collecting donations in my PayPal account in order to update this thread with the pot value we are currently at. Also reply to this thread with the transaction ID so I can place your username in the Thanks section. I will divide the Thanks section into Gold Contributors ($10+), Silver Contributors ($5-$9.99), and Bronze Contributors ($4.99 and below) in honor of the Olympics.
Just click on the link below to make your contribution:
[DONATE] https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=E77BXT72GCNVJ [DONATE]​
I know you guys can dig in your pockets for something to contribute as we spent very little for the Nexus 7.
Hope you all jump aboard so we can get there really soon.

Contribution List​
* GOLD *
akarol
Torisen
* SILVER *
aarjaytea
* BRONZE*
​

I don't know this developer or his work, but I'm into this sort of crowd-funded enterprise within the Android community in a major way.
And I like how often I've seen it happen here on XDA.

Thank you so much for your support!
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.

Anyone... Bueller?
Shame this popped up after the initial influx died down a bit.

Wow guys! C'mon! Let's get some premier development for our device going. I know that there are some superb development going on right now, but PH really would add a lot of neat tricks to our N7.
Kind of sad that the N7 community isn't as giving as the phone communities seem to be. =/

I like the community and I like it when I see people happy with custom roms. I don't use them but I like reading about them. I sent a donation but didn't get a transaction number but I did get a confirmation number, is that what you needed?

akarol said:
Wow guys! C'mon! Let's get some premier development for our device going. I know that there are some superb development going on right now, but PH really would add a lot of neat tricks to our N7.
Kind of sad that the N7 community isn't as giving as the phone communities seem to be. =/
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Awesome Torisen! Thanks for your contribution! Woohoo!

akarol said:
Wow guys! C'mon! Let's get some premier development for our device going. I know that there are some superb development going on right now, but PH really would add a lot of neat tricks to our N7.
Kind of sad that the N7 community isn't as giving as the phone communities seem to be. =/
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Well-established devices that are attractive to developers on their own (e.g. any Nexus device) don't need device donations to facilitate development. Especially devices that are dirt cheap to begin with.
Also, the skillset required for a Nexus device is VERY different from that required for a device that does not have AOSP support. Experience with smali-hacking and deodexing is of no benefit on a Nexus. Even well-established smali-hackers don't necessarily fare well on Nexus devices - see Designgears as an example.
Also, really, he doesn't have enough money for a $200 Nexus 7? He's paying for devices and service on at least two different carriers, and paid full unsubsidized price for at least one of those devices - If his work were indeed that good, he would have made enough money from previous donations to pay for the N7.
Donating a device upfront to a developer RARELY works out. Look at the Infuse community - There were at least three devices donated to developers in the early days of that device who received devices and did either nothing or almost nothing with them. The only device donations that actually resulted in any significant benefit were donations of used devices when owners upgraded.

I wish i could help i am very low on money, but you have my word i will throw so cash when i have it. The more devs we have the better
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

@leelaa: Thank you for vouching. We appreciate any help we can get.
@Entropy512: I respect your opinions but I ask you to please refrain from posting in this thread if you're not willing to colaborate or support the movement. I can assure you that PH can handle the Nexus 7. I created this thread because I mentioned in the SG3 thread about development for this device and he said that he would love to develop for it but was lacking the funds.