Okay, ive seriously tried about every possible thing on here to get my stupid phone to work but heres my situation.
The ATT Tilt i have was working great up until a couple months ago. At one point it just shut off and then went straight to the RGB screen with
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.000
CPLD-8
and "serial" on the bottom
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
Ive tried flashing through the SD card, and it goes to the loading screen. I've used Dutty's, HyperDragon, and the original ROM as a test base. Hyper and Dutty's i renamed the RUU.nbh to KAISIMG.nbh and it goes to "Loading" and thats it. Ive even tried naming it KAISDIAG.nbh and still nothing. Stays there for a while but doesnt go anywhere. I dont know how long exactly its supposed to take to load the damn thing but every post ive seen makes me think that its just "It loads, flashes and you're done"
The furthest i got was with the original ROM i downloaded that was shipped with the phone. Not sure whether or not the version was correct but then again i have no idea what vers. my phone is or where to find the rom that works with it. Anyways, i used the shipped rom, named it KAISIMG.nbh loaded it, said Checking, then says "Not Allow" with some numbers n **** on the top (0028002), then resets back to the boot screen.
No, its not named KAISIMG.nbh.nbh im sure of it.
Its not a kingston sd or none of that.
Ive formatted, used fat32. (however, i cant make it allocate to 512. windows gives it a "default" allocation size which is unknown to me and i cant change it)
Whats wrong with this stupid phone.
Help me please.
ps. Ive searched the archives frivolously and havent really found anything that completely answers my question.
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
Well thanks for all the good info throughout the site though. a MAJOR help for someone who thought their $600 phone took a **** on them.
afrodude said:
I solved my own problem.
The file i downloaded called "Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe"
Fixed it.
Well sorta.
Since it was an exe i knew i couldnt use it, so i opened the whole thing with winrar, removed the RUU file, renamed it to KAISIMG.nbh and it worked fine!
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Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
afrodude said:
Some of you might say "download HardSPL " or whatever and flash from the computer. Problem is I dont have ANY of the software or hardware that came with the phone. All i have is the phone and its charger. Thats it.
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Heres the software you can download, its all you really need.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/activesync45.mspx
Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 is a new software update release for Windows Mobile powered devices that provides a great synchronization experience with Windows-powered PCs and Microsoft Outlook.
Note: Microsoft ActiveSync works only with Windows XP SP3 or earlier. If you have Windows Vista, your synchronization settings will be managed through the Windows Mobile Device Center. Windows Mobile Device Center is available through the Windows Mobile Device Center page.
Supported features
ActiveSync acts as the gateway between your Microsoft Windows-powered PC and Windows Mobile powered device and allows you to synchronize Microsoft Outlook information, Microsoft Office documents, pictures, music, videos and applications to and from your device.
Flying Kiwi said:
Only problem is you still have your original 1.56 SPL but now have a WM 6.1 ROM so don't expect plain sailing until you properly update it fully (or have it reverted back to a full WM 6.0 installation).
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****.
Yeah. You're right.
My problem now is that once ive reset the tilt after the update, it goes right back into the RGB screen.
What gives now?
I just want the phone to work. Is there a WM6.0 i can download??
If so where?
Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
F2504x4 said:
Go here and just go ahead and upgrade your HardSPL you will be happier in the long run
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
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Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
afrodude said:
Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow, all that yelling screams I DON'T REALLY WANT SOMEONE TO HELP ME.
Look at the wiki. You can fix it there. YOU'RE WELCOME.
afrodude said:
Doesnt work for me. I DONT have hardSPL on my phone already, PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer. I just want it to work normally!
Did you even read my post?
The screen STAYS on the tri-colored screen. Once i turn the phone on, it goes straight to it, and stays like that. I cant even power it off. I have to take the battery out. Soft Reset, just does that; Resets. Ive even managed to get a nbh. file that reflashes it to the original rom. Once prompted for the power button to reset, i press it and it goes right back into the boot screen.
I need a way to COMPLETELY redo my phone through SD.
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Wow and you expect to get help form a community by this kind of response ?
Look you are the one who brought a phone that has developed problems and came here for help...
I cannot help that you do not have what you need, that said go buy the $10 dollar cable BTW it is a commonly used cable so you might all ready own one if YOU SEARCH for it ,
download the proper software that was told to you .
GO SEARCH if this is the kind of response that you are going to give to others that might try to help...
good luck with your phone troubles....
afrodude said:
PLUS, i dont have the cables n things to flash it on my computer.
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Uh, don't tell us you don't have a standard mini USB cable anywhere... you get one with pretty much any computer device you'd buy. You don't need anything more. As said, do an effort or find your way yourself.
Hi guys,
Well, I've searched the forum and get close...but no cigar. So, I'll go ahead and ask.
I have an AT&T Tilt, Flashed the 6.1 from XDA MONTHS ago, and have been running Slither's Cube...not even all the time...as well as the HTC Home Customizer.
Yep, that's it.
Well, I have purchased another Tilt with a busted screen (otherwise absolutely fine) for $30 and am waiting to afford a new screen for it...at which time I'll have a backup and then the Cooking and Flashing will begin in earnest!
But I digress. Here is the sequence of events, and where I am at now:
1) Went to hang up from a phone call (BT headset active) by pressing the "Hang Up" Button...no response from the phone.
2) Pressed the Power Button...no response.
3) Slid open the Keyboard...no response.
4) Held the Power Button...no response.
5) Dumped the battery and rebooted...AT&T Splash then Radio Info...stays right there. Screen will dim after awhile, but never goes out. Rebrightens when removing external Power.
6) Soft Reset...same result.
7) Only way to Power Down is dump the battery.
8) Removed SD and SIM...attempted Bootloader Screen
9) Bootloader DOES show up:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
Serial
10) I don't remember if there was anything with "Serial"...like a number or such...when I looked at it last (when flashing 6.1) so that may or may not be significant. There's nothing there now.
11) My Radios show up as:
R 1.27.14.09
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.62.00.00
I am avoiding Hard Reset or Re-Flash until I can at least figure out what happened...if anyone has any ideas...or find out that this is common and that's the best or only way to solve it etc.
Since I haven't found anything quite like this in the Forum, I'm presuming that it may not be so common and I may...or may NOT...be able to find a way back before going that path. As well, I really don't want to send it off for repair...although I have insurance and coverage through Hawk (our AT&T Provider) that would be reasonable for repair ($35) but perhaps inordinate for rreplacement ($175). I'd like to be able to resolve this myself, but not knowing what may be wrong leaves me only with Hard Reset and/or Re-Flash alternatives...if those will even work...so out goes the question:
Has anybody run into this or have any idea of why it happened or the BEST recourse to resolve it?
Thanks in advance for any and all info, y'all are awesome and I truly appreciate your help...
RAF
These phones freeze all the time. Software conflicts, too much running at once, and it just feels like screwing you when you need it most. And of course all of a sudden, the hardware just crashes and never works again.
It looks like a hard reset will solve your problems, unfortunately, unless you do regular backups, you will lose all your info.
Thanks denco7!
Well, this is the first time it has locked up that early in the boot...all others have been easily resolved.
Hard Reset is not an issue with Data...I do keep my phone (data) backed up and have most of my volatiles on the SD.
And, honestly, I don't mind having to reflash or reinstall my apps...at least not yet, once I start cooking my own I feel I'll get a bit testy when I have to 'start over'.
I should probably find a good full backup app to snapshot the whole phone, then just put it back on when things 'happen'.
I do have a full backup from December using the 'supplied' app, so it will at least have most of the tweaks in it.
I'm gonna do the Hard Reset and see if that clears this, but I must say I'm not that hopeful.
Not really an expert...not a noob either...but this technology is just not rocket science, and I can actually do that along with quite a bit more.
Don't ask me to write a driver tho...I respect anyone that has that kind of patience!
Suffice to say, this just doesn't "feel" like a resetable issue...but I'm game. I'll update once attempted.
Thanks again, see you on the other side...
RAF
Okay...no joy on the Hard Reset. Behavior has stayed the same. Kinda expected that tho...
Next stop, Re-flash the ROM. I'm gonna check on latest releases of 'Official' HTC ROMs...but if anyone has any suggestions I'm open.
I'm still hoping that someone out there knows what happened here, it would be helpful to know the 'why'.
Thanks again...
not so much a suggestion but a correction. You don't have a wm6.1 rom but actually have a wm6 rom because the radio you have flashed i.e. R 1.27.14.09
is a wm6 radio not wm6.1 and that radio is only compatible with the following roms:
AT&T 1.60.502.3
AT&T 1.61.502.2
AT&T 1.62.502.0
Q-Mobile 1.2 AT&T Version
(source for above info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182)
so make sure that your rom matches the radio you have. I would recommend that if flashing is not something new to you than go ahead and upgrade your rom and radio to wm6.1 rom and see if the issue presists.
hope this helps
first post you stated you have a 6.1 rom but your spl is for a 6.0 rom, either your not on a 6.1 rom or your on the wrong SPL and should HARDspl if your flashing custom roms.
Thanks Guys...
I had it in my head that I went to 6.1 when I flashed it last...went out and looked at the file and sure enough it was 6.0.
This is what happens when u have 7 kids, 6 female and 4 of those in college...I'm too broke to pay attention.
No not new to flashing, and when I can get home before 10-11p some night...or this weekend...that's my plan.
Looking for the best choice 6.1 to flash and attempt to bring it back, but still curious as to the behavior in the first place.
Thanks for pointing out my ADD, and all comments are welcome...
Hoping for the un-bricking soon...
RAF
Now I'm REALLY Currious...and Frustrated! A Little Help Please...
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
Rustafergi said:
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
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If you cannot flash a 6.1 rom or install the correct hard spl I would not even attempt using MTTY. Go to the rom section of this forum. Look for "spl rollup thread" it is a sticky from DaveShaw. Pick any 3.xx hard spl's for 6.1 rom and download. Now download jumpspl and place it somewhere on your device other than your memory card. Now run jumpspl and follow the rest of the directions in that thread. After you installed the correct SPL find a 6.1 rom and flash your device. If your sound doesn't work change your radio to a compatible radio, which would be listed in the "ultimate radio thread" by alltheway.
These are the basics. Hope it helps.
Rustafergi said:
Okay,
So I flashed the latest HTC Factory ROM: AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6.1 Software (ROM Version 3.57.502.2 WWE).
I wanted to do something mild at first before taking too many big steps...'small steps Ellie, smal steps'.
Once the Bootloader was up with USB showing at the bottom, I was certain I would at least have a connection to the Phone.
Of course with no ActiveSync or recognition from the PC, I simply ran the EXE and ignored the one line about making sure ActiveSync had a connection.
The only oddity was that at 13%, the Phone went from the "% Screen" back to the Bootloader Screen for a few seconds then continued normally to sucessful completion.
When it rebooted, it stayed at the AT&T initial splash and now NEVER shows the Radio or Protocol versions...just the initial splash.
As well, it does not dim the backlight after awhile as it used to nor do I ever get a Power Light...just plain LOCKED.
There is also still no way to Power Down the Phone except for removing the Battery.
Although I've never used MTTY, I'm wondering if that is now my only hope...and am currious as to the proper procedure for this particular circumstance.
I'm still searching the Forum for MTTY uses and info, but I would be appreciative if one of the Seniors could point me in the right direction.
Also, if ANYONE knows what may have caused this glitch in the first place it would help me to determine the best recourse.
Thanks again in advance to all...
RAF
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Wow! I think you missed the advice and wisdom given to you about NOT FLASHING a 6.1 ROM with the SPL for a 6.0 ROM...
Anyways, lets see if we can help... I don't think you are going to be able to flash a SPL, as you probably can't even get an active sync connection to copy over the files...
So, try getting into boot loader screen; you hold down the camera button and then press in the rest button and hold that until a tri-color screen appears...
Then tell us exactly what it says, just to make sure we know which SPL you have... Then I will post a link to the exact ROM you need to flash to hopefully bring her back to life.
If you are not able to get into boot loader, which wouldn't surprise me, someone else with more experience un-bricking will have to help.
Some Answers and Info...Still Confused
redbandana said:
If you cannot flash a 6.1 rom or install the correct hard spl I would not even attempt using MTTY. Go to the rom section of this forum. Look for "spl rollup thread" it is a sticky from DaveShaw. Pick any 3.xx hard spl's for 6.1 rom and download. Now download jumpspl and place it somewhere on your device other than your memory card. Now run jumpspl and follow the rest of the directions in that thread. After you installed the correct SPL find a 6.1 rom and flash your device. If your sound doesn't work change your radio to a compatible radio, which would be listed in the "ultimate radio thread" by alltheway.
These are the basics. Hope it helps.
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pjcforpres said:
Wow! I think you missed the advice and wisdom given to you about NOT FLASHING a 6.1 ROM with the SPL for a 6.0 ROM...
Anyways, lets see if we can help... I don't think you are going to be able to flash a SPL, as you probably can't even get an active sync connection to copy over the files...
So, try getting into boot loader screen; you hold down the camera button and then press in the rest button and hold that until a tri-color screen appears...
Then tell us exactly what it says, just to make sure we know which SPL you have... Then I will post a link to the exact ROM you need to flash to hopefully bring her back to life.
If you are not able to get into boot loader, which wouldn't surprise me, someone else with more experience un-bricking will have to help.
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Hi again,
Thanks to redbandana and pjcforpres for the responses...I thought I might not get anymore!
I'll start with pjcforpres,
First, my appologies if I have not been specific enough on my descriptions...I've been attempting to be more succinct (I'm not so good at that).
This was a Stock ROM Tilt, then I had flashed RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe quite awhile back...shortly after it was available.
I added Slither's Cube and the HTC Home Screen and Customizer and have run it that way since then.
Somehow, I got it in my head that I had flashed 6.1 but I was flat out mistaken...hence the comment in the earlier part of the thread.
Then we get to the #1 post in this thread...add some confusion and voila.
The ref'd 6.1 flash was also Stock...RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe...and I thought I read everything, incl that it replaces the SPL.
Durring the flash, it pauses @ 13%, the USB disconnect 'bing' sounds and the Bootloader screen reappears showing SPL-3.02.000.
Then, the USB reconnect 'bing' sounds, goes back to the % screen and then completes the flash successfully.
My Bootloader screen is now:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.000
CPLD-8
So...did I miss something and screw up? Or was I on the right track?
And redbandana,
It did successfully flash 6.1, but it still doesn't start...specifically, get passed the initial AT&T Splash.
Although I had already thought of going to JockyW's HardSPL 3.29, I cannot 'see' the phone in XP and therefore cannot get JumpSPL onto it...so, no HardSPL (unless I missed something else in the threads).
It DOES however give me the USB 'bing' sound when I go into the Bootloader...but clicking on the "Mobile Device" icon in Windows Exploder leaves a 'blank' right pane.
Before your post, I had read up on MTTY and noted the DON'Ts...like DON'T use task 2a!...and found several threads with commands.
None of the info commands seem to fuction, like info 2, info 7 or info 8 so I don't have much 'info' there.
One of the things I tried was 'task 28' to format the thing in case there was some corruption...this was the response:
Cmd>task 28
Format start
Storage start sector=0xC2C0, total sector=0xF000
Storage start block=800, total block=960
Total Bad Block in CE: 1
Erase physical block from 1091 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1397
formatstorage Bad block found: 1398
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
Format end
So I looked for 'bad blocks' on the Forum and there are suggestions to contact JockyW and GSLEON3 for more help.
I haven't as yet done this thinking I can work my way through this by searching the Forum and monitoring this Post.
My searches for MTTY Commands have shown me that there are different Commands for different SPLs, and the info is way scattered and confusing.
It is becoming clear(er) to me that I have an issue that is not that normal...or at least not with an intermediate level 'fix'.
That's why I asked for more help in the right direction, I feel like I've hit this pretty hard and done alot of footwork on my own.
I also feel like I'm running out of options and may resort to bugging JockyW and GSLEON3...unless there are any more suggestions
PLEASE let me know if there is more info that I can provide to narrow this down, or some procedure to attemt, or an MTTY comand that will give us more info, or another search in the Forum for something specific I've missed...or simply some PFM that can be performed...and I'll be HAPPY to comply!
Thanks again...and again...for the assistance, my grattitude and appreciation out!
RAF
I am going to be short and swet for the moment... my computer crashed so I am solely on my phone until I work again around 2 central time USA...
Good news is that there is a chance without MTTY to get you running, and if not, those with the knowledge are very hepful and patient.
I will do the searches tomorrow for the stock ROM you should try, and give a walk through on how to flash using a micro SD card.
I am out for now, and will get back to you as soon as I can tomorrow.
Patient and Prepared
Thanks pjc...if we can fix this I'll vote for you
I sincerely appreciate the assistace, and PLEASE let me know if there's any research I can do to facilitate.
If you're willing, let me know if I took a wrong turn somewhere or if I did something to make this worse...I like to learn from my mistakes (I AM pretty good at those...)
I just got the new screen for my backup Tilt and I'll be swapping that out tomorrow (uh...today) sometime, so I'll have a reference phone soon.
Askew but relevant, I'm on day 12 of a nasty cranial muscle spasm and 3 days into meds for it...so we'll see if I can stay focused
Thanks again and in advance...
RAF...Tilted
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Try downloading from here... it is the 100% official AT&T Tilt 6.1 ROM, plus upgrade tool.
This includes everything you need, and is probably what you flashed already, but it sounds like you had a bad flash or something...
Make sure your computer doesn't go into hibernate during this process, and that you don't have anything running other than the update program and activesync...
Also, make sure when you run the update program, you right click and select 'run as administrator' or 'run as' then in the menu that comes after that select administrator.
If you can't establish an activesync connection, or if you are using Vista, and thus no Windows Mobile Device Center connection can be established, let me know, and I will track down the ROM by itself and the Radio by itself and walk you through that.
This should be the easiest fix, though, so we will try this first.
Been There, Done That...I Think ?!?
pjcforpres said:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
1] Try downloading from here... it is the 100% official AT&T Tilt 6.1 ROM, plus upgrade tool.
2] This includes everything you need, and is probably what you flashed already, but it sounds like you had a bad flash or something...
Make sure your computer doesn't go into hibernate during this process, and that you don't have anything running other than the update program and activesync...
3] Also, make sure when you run the update program, you right click and select 'run as administrator' or 'run as' then in the menu that comes after that select administrator.
If you can't establish an activesync connection, or if you are using Vista, and thus no Windows Mobile Device Center connection can be established, let me know, and I will track down the ROM by itself and the Radio by itself and walk you through that.
This should be the easiest fix, though, so we will try this first.
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1] Yep, same one I have already flashed several times to determine if there was a pattern.
2] ActiveSync will not connect...remember from #1 in this post:
1) Went to hang up from a phone call (BT headset active) by pressing the "Hang Up" Button...no response from the phone.
2) Pressed the Power Button...no response.
3) Slid open the Keyboard...no response.
4) Held the Power Button...no response.
5) Dumped the battery and rebooted...AT&T Splash then Radio Info...stays right there. Screen will dim after awhile, but never goes out. Rebrightens when removing external Power.
6) Soft Reset...same result.
7) Only way to Power Down is dump the battery.
8) Removed SD and SIM...attempted Bootloader Screen
9) Bootloader DOES show up:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
I've never gotten passed the initial AT&T Splash since then...no matter soft hard reset flash the 6.0 ROM that was already on it or this 6.1 version.
Only difference is when I flashed this 6.1 ROM, the Radio and Protocol Versions that normally pop up at the bottom in red no longer pop up.
It now stays at the initial AT&T Splash, no versions, and never dims the backlight.
The ONLY time my Laptop 'sees' the Phone is when I put in into the Bootloader I get the USB 'bu-bingk'.
MTTY can see it, and the ROM Upgrades see it and run successfully...but Exploder can't and neither does ActiveSync.
Just to clarify that I've been there more than once...
3] Well, that I have not attempted...but all my previous flashes have gone fine (I am the only user on my Alenware Aurora m7700...and effectively I AM the Administrator), so I'll attempt that...(see next).
I downloaded, overwrote and ran this 6.1 ROM again...I set this XP install with me as the only Administrator (only user other than Guest), and I want to point something out that may be significant:
The Screnshots below show that there's no info in the Current Image Version area, I click on 'Update' and get the 2nd one.
(okay, sorry I haven't attempted very hard to embrace multiquote or embed a screenshot yet )
But this has happened every attemp to reflash after the initial sequence of events. As well, the same events recurred during the flash as all attempts before:
Durring the flash, it pauses @ 13%, the USB disconnect 'bing' sounds and the Bootloader screen reappears showing SPL-3.02.000.
Then, the USB reconnect 'bing' sounds, goes back to the % screen and then completes the flash successfully.
So...did I screw up somewhere? I really thought I had a handle on the 'small steps' that I took..it was the 'next steps' that I was mildly trepidatious about.
My understanding and instincts point to the 'bad blocks' errors durring the MTTY 'task 28' format, but I can't find anything pertinent to 'do' about it in the Forums...other than contacting JockyW or GSLEON3.
I want to try SOMETHING on my own before I go bothering them with a PM...although I've read (and even learned) alot here recently on TOP of what I had already learned over the last 2½ years, I feel I've got to at least attempt something before begging for help that way.
Still, I haven't found a path to get this basal into the core of the phone to noodle (safely mind you) around and become more adept so that I can solve these issues on my own...and it may be time to capitulate.
Let me know if you've spotted an error on my part...something I did or didn't do...or if there's another path I should take or search in the Forum I should look up.
Thanks ton again...and my appologies to all for my un-succinct pontifications...
(S)tilted...RAF
I don't think you are really doing anything wrong on your part, it just doesn't want to flash right... I had you try the stock stuff again just to make sure it was a clean download, and a clean flash.
I am not sure if it is the SPL not matching the ROM, or the Radio... The MTTY commands do indicate a problem with something not flashing right to the phone. Especially since that download has been recommended and successful so many times for people with a similar situation. I have done a fair amount of looking into this myself, and I have found a couple solutions:
1. Some people found success by flashing the same stock AT&T ROM 2 -5 times, and then it finally caught and worked right.
2. Others found luck by flashing a HardSPL, then new Radio, then new ROM.
3. They PM one of the greats... right now in the Kaiser area, JockyW is amazing! But is mostly focused on newer devices. I would recommend contacting mskip or DaveShaw. They have much more experience than I do, and should have a better idea of exactly what those block errors mean, and the solution....
If I were you I would try one last time doing a hard rest, you may need to hold down the 2 soft keys and the rest button extra long to get it to register... I would also try flashing that same upgrade 1 last time, followed by 1 last shot at a hard rest. If you still have the same stuff going on, I would contact those 2 guys and see what their wisdom says... mskip moderates the "NOOB flashing guide" thread and DaveShaw is a moderator for the Kaiser section in general.
Thanks pjcforpres...Contacting DaveShaw...Any Other Ideas?
Okay, one more time...and, no joy. Held the Soft Keys for 2 mintes solid for the Hard Reset, Reflashed, then another 2min Hard Reset.
I've resorted to sending DaveShaw a PM per the suggestion and will patiently wait for a reply.
In the mean time, if there's ANY other suggestions or a list of MTTY commands that run on the 3.56.000 SPL that can get info from the phone to help determine what the actual problem is or to correct bad blocks I'd be SERIOUSLY appreciative and VERY grateful.
Thanks to all who have responded, and in advance to all who may help from here...
RAF
A Little Updated Info:
Replaced the screen on my 'backup' Tilt, and flashed the RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_s ign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe ROM thaT I had flashed on the 'bricked' one.
It had the same behavior @ 13%, so I'm certain now that the flash went fine...I am even more convinced, with all of the events and symptoms to this point, that the issue lies in the 'bad blocks' reported durring the MTTY task 28 format.
I've left a PM for DaveShaw...and I AM patient...but if there is someone that may be more appropriate for this question I'd like to contact them as well. If anyone knows the right Guru, please let me know.
Thanks again to all...
RAF
Well I'm here at last sorry for the delay in getting back to you - I'm not sure how much I can help you though .
Can you post the output of "info 2" and "info 8" from an MTTY connection to your bootloader.
Also, can you please clarify: are you stuck at the bootloader (red/green/blue) or the splash screen (with R G D)?
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Well I'm here at last sorry for the delay in getting back to you - I'm not sure how much I can help you though .
Can you post the output of "info 2" and "info 8" from an MTTY connection to your bootloader.
Also, can you please clarify: are you stuck at the bootloader (red/green/blue) or the splash screen (with R G D)?
Thanks
Dave
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Wow man, THANKS for just bein here!
That's just it Dave, none of the info commands in MTTY seem to return anything (see #10). I've used MTTY: ver. 0.01 2001 and ver. 1.42 1997-2001 and both report literally nothing for info 2 info 7 or info 8...just another Cmd> prompt. However, (also in #10) I get to the 'bad blocks' ref running "task 28":
Cmd>task 28
Format start
Storage start sector=0xC2C0, total sector=0xF000
Storage start block=800, total block=960
Total Bad Block in CE: 1
Erase physical block from 1091 to 2032
formatstorage Bad block found: 1397
formatstorage Bad block found: 1398
si backup: Erase physical block from 2032 to 2048
Format end
Remember, the stuff in #1 of the thread happens and then I went through all this digging...took it to where I could and posted.
This wasn't a HardSPL fail or a bad Flash... I had BEEN running stock HTC 6.0 WWE with Slither's Cube, the HTC Home Screen and Home Customizer.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe (flashed 07/20/08)
This isn't a RUUNBH issue either, and I can get into Bootloader and I'm not 'stuck' there...currently:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.000
CPLD-8
I can flash stock ROMs all day long w/no errors...flashed HTC 6.1 WWE on my backup Tilt to be sure the behaviors were the same, and they are exactly.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe runs FINE on the backup Tilt.
After flashing the HTC 6.1 WWE on the 'bricked' one however, there is no longer the R G D Radio Protocol info at the bottom of the AT&T Splash after the initial Splash...it was there before the 6.1 flash, and that's where it used to hang: Initial Splash, R G D, hang...backlight eventually dimed but never went out...battery dump only way off.
Now it hangs at the Initial Splash, NO R G D, NO backlight dim...still needs battery dump for off. It ACTS like it's lost it's damn mind...
I'm pretty sure I 'downgraded' back to the 6.0 mentioned above and went thru some similar steps to confirm, but I didn't write it all down and I'm way ADD so I can do that one again and record it all this time...unless that's a bad idea.
I very recently (like as I was searching I saw you had answered my plea...) found some other references to a MFG HardSPL that someone was thinking about working on to fix bad blocks, but I haven't read through it all yet. And, since Exploder and ActiveSync simply can't 'see' the phone, I'm not sure that I could get a HardSPL on the thing in the first place...'cause I can't get no JumpSPL on the phone itself...should've done that back when it was working I guess
I truly believe I'm at the 'needing guru help' level at this point, but if you see something I should do PLEASE point me that way and I'll dive right in. Also, like I've asked others, if you see something I did wrong or in the wrong order or whatever, please let me know that also...there's GOT to be something I can actually LEARN from this.
I warned you I tend to pontificate, but I hope that this clears up where I'm at. ANY help you can provide is fantastic and greatly appreciated, even if it's just to tell me to go somewhere else (I'm kinda used to that )
Thanks again, seriously...
RAF
In that case I have no idea. I think GSLEON3, jockyw2001 or cmonex are going to be the only one's who can help you.
Dave
So, I plugged my Kaiser (Tilt) into my computer the other day to charge it, and the next morning when I unplugged it, I noticed it was locked up. No biggie, I soft-reset it, and it came directly back to the bootloader (right before the bootloader shows is a white screen, that says "Loading image... No image found!", that flashes for a fraction of a second.
If I plug it into my computer at this point, Windows says the USB device has malfunctioned and it doesn't recognize it. I can't flash it ("connection error"), and it wouldn't hard reset.
Then it kinda came back to life, kinda. Suddenly it'll boot into WM. Windows still doesn't recognize it, but I used JumpSPL to get it into a bootloader, and tried to install a HardSPL on it so I could flash a new ROM (to this point it's been stock-only because it belongs to the company I work for). The HardSPL flash failed partway through, and then it was stuck in bootloader for real. At that point I tried flashing a stock ROM, and it kept failing at different points, never getting more than about halfway through.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Or, do you want to buy it? At this point it's mine (company doesn't want it back), so I'm willing to experiment freely with it. Right up until my Touch Pro 2 comes in and I lose interest
*** UPDATE ***
So after writing this, just for kicks, I decided to give re-flashing the original ROM one more shot (it's been off and untouched now for several days at this point) and the flash succeeded. We'll see where it goes from here
Good luck with your phone.. I hope all goes well.. If you find out what the problem was/is, let me know
Hey godefroi, im new to all of this, just bought a messed up tilt from my friend, and i want to know if you could givve me the link for the insturctions to refalsh my tilt
Just hit up AT&T's site (which redirects you to HTC's site) and download the ROM. The file you want is "_ATT Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_3.57.502.2_radio_sign_25.88.40.05_1.65.21.18_Ship.exe", which was the latest update for the phone.
Seems it's not fixed. After playing around with it for a couple days, it's back into bootloader and stuck there. Taking out the battery and leaving it for a few hours brings it back for a while, but it seems there's no permanant fix. Next step will be flashing HardSPL and a custom ROM. I'll update when that happens.
awww dang, that sucks. thank you for tellin me. hopin your tilt comes out ok
Did you ever get this resolved?
Hey man did you ever get this fixed? I cant find anything on it.
I can get to a boot loader screen and it shows USB and when I plug it into my computer I hear the sound that it's recognized but my active sync wont connect.
This is what I posted earlier and a moderator killed the post because I didn't spend hours hunting for a solution first before posting. I don't think one exists but if there is I would be glad to know it. I have flashed this phone and my older HTC Wizard dozens of times with no issues so Im not a "noob"
Earlier today I was taking a picture and the screen kind of stuck so I has to soft reboot it.
It didn't come back up. I was left at the rainbow bootloader screen.
I tried holding the camera button down and rebooting but it didn't change anything.
I tried several different combo's of holding keys down and rebooting and it always came back to that bootloader screen.
So the next thing I did was to format my cd card and downloaded KaisDiagTest1.zip and then coppied the KAISDIAG.NBH image file from the zip on to the root of the sd card.
That worked fine and I was left at a screen saying SPL 1.00.OliNex.
Next thing I did is were I think I screwed up. I flashed it with _ATT Tilt_RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0_radio_sign _22.45.88.07_1.27.14.09R2_Ship.exe which is the ROM from the HTC site and I think I was only supose to use a custom ROM and now after it finished flashing the ROM it rebooted and is stuck showing loading ... on the screen.
It goes past the boot loader and is stuck at loading...
Please advise if there is anything I can do.
Cheers,
Chris
godefroi said:
So, I plugged my Kaiser (Tilt) into my computer the other day to charge it, and the next morning when I unplugged it, I noticed it was locked up. No biggie, I soft-reset it, and it came directly back to the bootloader (right before the bootloader shows is a white screen, that says "Loading image... No image found!", that flashes for a fraction of a second.
If I plug it into my computer at this point, Windows says the USB device has malfunctioned and it doesn't recognize it. I can't flash it ("connection error"), and it wouldn't hard reset.
Then it kinda came back to life, kinda. Suddenly it'll boot into WM. Windows still doesn't recognize it, but I used JumpSPL to get it into a bootloader, and tried to install a HardSPL on it so I could flash a new ROM (to this point it's been stock-only because it belongs to the company I work for). The HardSPL flash failed partway through, and then it was stuck in bootloader for real. At that point I tried flashing a stock ROM, and it kept failing at different points, never getting more than about halfway through.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Or, do you want to buy it? At this point it's mine (company doesn't want it back), so I'm willing to experiment freely with it. Right up until my Touch Pro 2 comes in and I lose interest
*** UPDATE ***
So after writing this, just for kicks, I decided to give re-flashing the original ROM one more shot (it's been off and untouched now for several days at this point) and the flash succeeded. We'll see where it goes from here
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I never did. Every once in a while I can get it reflashed, but inevitably it stops working. Just like yours, I'll sfot reset it and it'll be stuck in bootloader.
Best bet is when it gets stuck on the bootloader or on the "white screen" as to put it. Do the following:
1) Unplug battery, memory car and simcard. Reinsert battery ONLY after 3 seconds (cards stay out!)
2) Hold BOTH softkeys down at the same time
3) Whilst holding softkeys, turn the unit on
4) You will be prompted to press "SEND" to reset all user data (you will lose everything on the internal storage. Press the Dial (green button) to reset.
5) When it's finished, you will be prompted to press "SEND" to reboot. Press send and it will boot into WM but might take slightly longer.
6) Realign your pointer and tada. It's up and running.
n.b. This often happens when the radio version of your phone isn't correct. If you notice, when you get stuck in the "white screen" the "gsm signal sight" is frashing green!
I've got to warn you again, this procedure WILL delete all of your internal user storage, hence why I recommend taking out all of the cards before proceeding.
heyadrian said:
Best bet is when it gets stuck on the bootloader or on the "white screen" as to put it. Do the following:
1) Unplug battery, memory car and simcard. Reinsert battery ONLY after 3 seconds (cards stay out!)
2) Hold BOTH softkeys down at the same time
3) Whilst holding softkeys, turn the unit on
4) You will be prompted to press "SEND" to reset all user data (you will lose everything on the internal storage. Press the Dial (green button) to reset.
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Nope. Stuck in bootloader is stuck in bootloader. Like, stuck. No, really, it's stuck. Hard-resetting doesn't get it out.
heyadrian said:
n.b. This often happens when the radio version of your phone isn't correct. If you notice, when you get stuck in the "white screen" the "gsm signal sight" is frashing green!
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There's no white screen, just bootloader rainbow. Also, there's no chance that I flashed the wrong radio, because this phone has never been flashed with anything but the official ROM. It's never even had a HardSPL flashed on it.
hmmm...now that you mention it has never had a hardSPL, maybe that could be the next step?
i understand that some people may want to keep a "stock" configuration in case waranty needs to be claimed or for any other valid reasons...but if the phone is out of waranty, theres little to lose.
only reason i'm suggesting it is because cmonex has a hardSPL that aims to fix EXACTLY this problem, among others (if i understand your problem and cmonex's fix correctly):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420683
also, this thread links to a page in the wiki about your problem (or something along the same lines):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423486
finally, a collection of hardSPL versions can be found in this "roll up" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320
i guess you may have already gone through the above mentioned links but if not, they may open up more avenues for troubleshooting or even a permanent resolution.