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Don't forget to read the "Announcement" ROM images will no longer be hosted.
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293
mtvn said:
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now
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Is it really funny 4 u?
But if someone else hosts it?
There are a lot of people out there with webspace (me incluis).... so....
or is this too simple of a thought?
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Is it really funny 4 u?
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Yes, I am. Because some peeps and probably you too, have already announced that they will not use any ROM from any site. They will only use the ROM from the "Master Cook" here.
Do you want to RLOL?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1135447&postcount=13
You can stop hoping and praying now because you won't get any WM6 update for the Wizard or any older model from HTC. Most people already know that, but you probably still hoping I have no problem of using ROM from any Cook from any site. What would you do now? Keep on using the old ROM or "eat" your words and start to use the ROM from the so called "Non-Master Cook"?
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Don't expect an official update. This is the reply I received from HTC:
Thank you for your enquiry concerning the HTC P3600 mobile device.
Unfortunately we will not upgrade our current devices to include the Mobile 6 software.? However, there will be new devices out which will include the software.
Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com
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There's the whole reason M$ has made the request....so OEM's can sell new devices instead of providing upgrades to existing devices. It's all in how much profit can they make from those of us that like the latest and greatest.
mtvn said:
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293
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It's not only about the new Roms... This meant that everyroms will be taken down.... Man that sucks.....
mtvn said:
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293
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M$'s position is truely sad. Guess it is time to look for a phone that will run a version of Linux...
--M
By requesting to remove all roms from this site, M$ is basically killing this forum. People come here to test new updated roms on their phones. Now this really sucks. Now, is it possible to host roms elsewhere?
I'm Pissed
I guess I'll switch to a freakin symbian phone or ahh yes an IPHONE. This kind of crap really reminds me why I can't stand Microsoft! They are not just happy with getting our money.
we knew from the very start about MS totalitarian rule, of course we can work something out, like "we worked"(esp. the great ROM cookers) to make better, faster, and more stable ROMs than MS has ever made, maybe someone is already working out a plan, working around the "system", so that the whole forum will still be alive
I think the cooks must deside for themselves... if they want to place the roms elsewhere; there is no real issue... if they don't, I think it is going to be a less interesting board, the xda-developers, unfortunatelly.
But I think mickey$oft will hunt down every place where the roms reside, so....
I've never really liked Microsoft..*the only reason I don't run Linux is because my wife doesn't know much about it and we only have 1 computer now*..but it was bound to happen sooner or later. With things like people bricking the phones and the whole monopoly that Microsoft has. The only thing I hate is that Faria had upgrades planned for the 3.3.
But texasaggie, I couldn't bring myself to get an iphone. It cost too much for too little. I've just waiting around until a ppc starts to run Linux.
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I've never really liked Microsoft..*the only reason I don't run Linux is because my wife doesn't know much about it and we only have 1 computer now*..but it was bound to happen sooner or later. With things like people bricking the phones and the whole monopoly that Microsoft has. The only thing I hate is that Faria had upgrades planned for the 3.3.
But texasaggie, I couldn't bring myself to get an iphone. It cost too much for too little. I've just waiting around until a ppc starts to run Linux.
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I guess torrents is the way to go. Since new roms comes very quickly and people would be more interested in the newest ones, torrents should able to stay alive until the next rom release.
M$ can go F themselves. BT everything, rapidshare, yousendit, megaupload or host it in some Cayman Island server. [email protected]@rds each & every one of the corporations.
one of the best sites no the net
hands down, you guys helped me through thick and thin so to all of you, noobs and developers alike, thanks for saving my nuts!!
Maybe M$ is just mad vista boched out
There are many other ways to post the roms
Hope the cooks won't have to waste too much time playing hiding games instead of doing important work
i just downloaded all of them...lol little over 7GB worth!
Harsh words
Ok, I'm probably gonna get killed for saying something like this, but can't you guys give Microsoft a break?
First off, without Microsoft, computers wouldn't be where they are today, the internet wouldn't be as big as it is today and your Wizards wouldn't be around. Sure, maybe some other companies would have filled the void and developed their own programs and things, but it's hard for me to imagine the way Microsoft has gone about developing programs and then marketing them to every man and his dog being replicated by anyone else with the same degree of success.
There are other devices and mobile operating systems out there already. But how many of them can do all the things that a Windows Mobile device can? And how many of them do it as well as a Windows Mobile device?
We can shout at Microsoft all we like, and rip into them forever about wanting to get more money from us for buying new devices. But who really has control over their software? Can we download O2 ROMs direct from Microsoft? Do T-Mobile update their phones via Windows Update like Microsoft update Vista, XP, etc?
AKU's have been released to mobile operators, and new opearting systems (WM6) have been passed over too. It is up to the operators to adapt the software and release it to us, it's customers, or at the very least the device manufacturers.
Until ALL Windows Mobile devices get a lot more memory, and can support a whole host of drivers (that they'll never use but have to to be there to cover other devices), updated ROMs will only come from operators or handset makers. Microsoft provide them with the updates, and then go back to working on the next lot of updates or new system.
So maybe Microsoft is at fault for removing ROMs from sites like this. But the real fault, and something they should definitely look into, is the fact that the people who are able and willing to tweak and change their system to suit the hardware, aren't the people they're giving the software to.
I don't like it any more than you guys do. I've only been using the site for the last couple of months, and that's been a time of a lot of activity with all the excitement of WM6 ROMs popping up and also AKU3.3 ROMs released etc. I would love the site to stay open, so that the brilliant "cooks" in this community could continue their work and support us for free, while the people we paid just sit their doing nothing with Microsoft's hard work in updating the software. But I can also understand where they're coming from, and simply ask that you take a more critical view of the people most of us probably got our phones from (operators like O2, T-Mobile, Cingular etc.) before having a go at the people that provided us with fantastic, if slightly flawed, software that is still better than everything else that's out there.
If it wasn't, why would we still be using it?
P.S. Just give me time to my girlfriend how much I love her before you torture me to death?
Basically taking down the ROMs from this site means moving the whole development projects to the "underground"!
There will be always a site to download the ROMs, only the legal aspcet will change and become (even more) questionable.
Sad, but true
See you again on some of the other sites...
Cheers,
Jago
this was posted over in the hermes forum
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/xdadevs/
I for one have signed up!
Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
We'll miss you... unless you buy me a Kaiser, and then I'll just be happy along with you. lol
Anyhoo, I think my kitchen is finally done, (I've yet to try out the last ROM I've made) and it's all thanks to your base ROM (Minus some tweaking...)
I'll also be using Hyperkitchen to make some more tweaked ROMs. Hopefully, I'll become the next itje... without a kaiser...
Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
Congrats on the new handset. I know Ive been eyeballing the kaiser for a while but I need T-Mobile to carry it so I can get the employee discount.
I think I can speak for the rest of the herald and wing users when I say that we appreciate all the work you've put into the wing and herald. And of course, I cant wait for the finished tutorial!
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Congrats my friend and excellent that you received your kaiser. Is it the Kaiser 120 (with 3meg pixel camera and and video calling capabilities)? This is definitely a step up for you (and your phone, lol). This is a step I look forward to making in a month. Although you're going to be relocating to the Kaiser forum and your new home will be there, your frequent presence and guidance here will be missed for sure .. and I will go out on a limb to say that's on the behalf of everyone here, lol. I'm sure that forum will treasure your insight and expertise. I'm also happy to hear you're not just leaving us, you're still going to make guest appearances here, LOL, and remain a consultant (sort of speak) for us amateur and experienced rom cookers.
Remember, you can always come back HOME (here, lol), if thing don't work out over there, LOL.
As for me, I'm using your latest beta version now, but I think I'm going to downgrade and use version 2 for my herald instead due to it's stability, until you have the final versions posted. I'm struggling with the keyboard issue, lol. Itje, Thank you for everything. PS .. The kaiser forum will be my new home in a month anyway, lol. So look forward to picking your brain, lol.
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yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
itje said:
yeah it has 3mpix and video..its full htc kaiser tytn2
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nice one itje will miss you too when you are not often around here in the herald forums ....
but the best thing is that you will upload the oem packages, sys and oem folder and that you will finish the tutorial. THIS IS F****NG GREAT
You will be missed.
Have fun with your new phone, I'm not quite ready to upgrade. I think I am going to see what HTC has up its sleeve next. Thanks for everything.
ITJE, I heard the Kaiser is a piece of crap. I suggest you get rid of it and stay with the Herald.
Seriously, I really appreciate all the work that you've done and given me much inspiration on cooking my own ROM for the Wing. You were like my Faria from the MDA forum when I used to carry that around.
I hope you enjoy your shiny new toy.
Lets have a farewell party and get drunk!!! haha
Oh, I am going to buy the kaiser whenver T-mobile USA releases it...
Its way too rich for my blood! Wing will do for now.
i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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i don't mean to be a butt, but (lol) didn't you say that if we recooked and released one of your roms, you would stop cooking for herald? So now, can we do so without your permission? Or would you like to set another policy.
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Ah.. butt you are(s)...
Butt.....dont you know how to read my friend?
butt..maybe I cant write....lol
the policy is, do whatever you want, Butt....!! remember, never forget, always remember, dont let it slip away, hold on to IT..get IT?
and no butts this time
said the atheist "Oh lord have mercy"
point taken. Let the (proverbial) floodgates open
cool it
wow kaiser, its like a fresh pair of boobs haha. naw really though u are the epidimy of the godfather for the wing and herald. u will be missed.
( we must learn to walk on our own feet )tutorial and research!
itje said:
Got my kaiser/tytn2 today
So I am leaving herald community and venturing over to kaiser.
What do that mean for herald? Well, Im gonna finish my 3 latest projects. The rom for p4350 wwe, and the norwegian rom. And ofcourse I will finish the tutorial.
But thats not all I am gonna do, I am gonna upload the sys, oem and rom folders for both wing and p4350. And I am also gonna upload a section of oem packages, some I have made, but mostly stuff I have found all over the forum. I will make it easy and add the oem packages into the OEM kitchen folder. This means that when you choose to build your rom, you will get a list of whats inside the oem folder, and then you can check or uncheck w/e you want to include in your rom.
The files and folders are no longer limited to personal use, if you wanna share your rom, please do so. But the condition will be that all roms released using the kitchen files (oem, rom and sys) a note with credits to the one spending alot of hours building for you
Im not leaving completly, incase some few are gonna miss me Im gonna check in once in a while and help out, and follow some up on the tutorial.
I cant promise this will be done this weekend, but I can promise that it will be all finished sometime before next weekend. That include the tutorial.
Now Im gonna dump my norwegain kaiser, and see what can be done with it
cheers
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Nice that you are finishing the new Norwegian rom for the P4350 I just wanna thank you for all your hard work and i'm happy that there are people like tou oute there .. hehe..
We will all miss you
Reading this thread seems that Itje had bigger problems. Luckily his bigger problem by now is getting used to his new device.
Thank you for all your efforts and nice work. All of your "betatesters" come to this thread to say goodbye. That's quite nice. Maybe the forum masters should consider creating a hall-of-fame for all of those who made it worth visiting daily. You have my vote.
Good luck and, who knows, maybe be meet again at the kaiser's forum.
P.S. Again, I'll be connecting daily hoping to find your (last) releases...
so itje when do you think you will release all your stuff here? cant wait to grab it off and take your position in the herald forums maybe i will be the next rom cooker. until now i have read much hours instuctions to build an own rom and i had no problem using your excellent instruction you posted here .....
miss ya maybe i will catch up a kaiser to and follow you *smile*
Just wanted to say thanks to itje, if it wasnt for your ROMS i would have jumped ship to the Kaiser along time ago! I guess I was spoilt as a Wizard user with all the roms available, but it was nice to have at least one chef for the herald. Thanks again.
Thanks Man,
If you didn't help with the roms... a piec of this phone would have ended up in a tmo reps A$$..
Thanks again
enjoy the incresed power!
please do not resurrect month old threads. sorry if i sound like a butt (no reference to past posts intended, but it IS convenient)
I will miss you man.
I know there is another thread about Android for TP2 but it is a [poll] thread and 98% want it so let's make this happen! Together we WILL have Android on this great device!
I seriously want to be the first person on this thread to thank you guys for working on this. I cant wait to see what comes from this!
Subscribed! Will be checking in!
I'm waiting for the Android port too. Thanks to all those people working on it! Hopefully it will be done as soon as possible because I can't wait till I can run Linux on my Rhodium.
did i sell you that touchpro 2? dan from b-town?
Thank you guys in advance for your great efforts, and look forward running Android on my TP2
Can't wait.
Me 2!!!!!!!!!!!!1
really can't wait, would be awesome!
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did i sell you that touchpro 2? dan from b-town?
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What's up pimpin I was going to bring it back in already but might as well give it another week lol This with Android is going to be ill!
I love ANDROID
Cool stuff.....
I love Android
Props for starting the thread....
BUT....
I CANT STAND AMERICAN STREET SLANG!!!!
ITS DUMBING DOWN THE WORLD AS IT EATS IN EVERY TV SHOW AND RADIO BROADCAST!
Kids in London all walking around "word up pimpin'?"
Word UP PIMPING!!! PIM<PING!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean - pimps are a BAD part of society. They are only there because of the stupid laws that mean there is no such thing as a SAFE LEGAL sex worker.
But Android WILL ROCK!!!
id like to help but i havent programed in 6 years... and i kind of fail at using linux on my laptop. (so i use windows) i havent yet used android but i assume its alot better a os then winmobile... wm6.5 ect makes me wish i has symbion on my phone at times... just because of how laggy it is.
This thread is great, but could someone post a quick status update? Ideally, the first post should indicate a few main points so people don't have to read all of the chatter to find the basic info.
A few things that would be nice to have on post #1:
Overview of project
Status
Blocking issues
Help needed from community
(dare I say) ETA?
Is this just a wishful thread or is something really happening ?
+ for the project.
i agree with paulbram!!
For a fully working Android port to TP2 I would definitely donate some cash!
And probably more than me would do the same.
I just got my TP2 last week. Must say that i am liking. Anyways wanna give out a shout out to all my peeps, chuck up the deuce and to all them chicken heads out there, keep flapping your gums!
p.s. ^ that was just a joke. But hopefully we do get some developing going on with this badboy.
Please keep in mind those of us on CDMA networks!
Thanks!
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Please keep in mind those of us on CDMA networks!!
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Here here. I'm brand new to this stuff for phones, but I have a ton of linux/windows experience and an HTC tp2 so if you need me to break (ok hopefully not) my (CDMA) phone testing something, I'm down.
Who is actually doing work on this? I mean, we can have a thread about this and talk all day, but if nobody works on it. Wish I had the knowledge to program this..
Not just a wishlist
this thread was started because the other 30 pages posted were on a poll thread...cr2 i think is to a point where he/she is now lab testing. i think the got dumps from both GSM & CDMA.anyway, i can't wait to get this port...
Hello all! I jump from phone to phone when ever I can catch a broken one to fix for nearly free. I recently ran into an HTC HD 7 and am not really vibing to the windows mobile 7, and from what I read there is not currently a pre made rom available for installing android on this device. I am pretty technologically advanced and feel confident given the right direction on how to accomplish this I would be capable of creating one. I have read a lot of information but am some what lost mainly because of some of the lingo terminology, being that I haven't hacked/developed outside of the ios platform. I can program in just about any c based language. Any one got ne thing that can help me out here? If I build one how would I install it or go about uploading it to the device? Thanks in advance for any replies I do greatly appreciate all your time! I apologize about the noobness like I said ios is whats been available to me for the past few years, and now I want android like a kid wants candy!!!
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Hello all! I jump from phone to phone when ever I can catch a broken one to fix for nearly free. I recently ran into an HTC HD 7 and am not really vibing to the windows mobile 7, and from what I read there is not currently a pre made rom available for installing android on this device. I am pretty technologically advanced and feel confident given the right direction on how to accomplish this I would be capable of creating one. I have read a lot of information but am some what lost mainly because of some of the lingo terminology, being that I haven't hacked/developed outside of the ios platform. I can program in just about any c based language. Any one got ne thing that can help me out here? If I build one how would I install it or go about uploading it to the device? Thanks in advance for any replies I do greatly appreciate all your time! I apologize about the noobness like I said ios is whats been available to me for the past few years, and now I want android like a kid wants candy!!!
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Developers/programmers have been trying to figure out how to dual boot the HD7 (like the HD2) since it came out. The main problem seems to be how WP7 is compiled .NET and C#. WP7 securitys still aren't fully unlocked.
Take a look at the Project Haret thread, they seem to be making some progress at it and if you have the know how, maybe you can contribute.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377
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Developers/programmers have been trying to figure out how to dual boot the HD7 (like the HD2) since it came out. The main problem seems to be how WP7 is compiled .NET and C#. WP7 securitys still aren't fully unlocked.
Take a look at the Project Haret thread, they seem to be making some progress at it and if you have the know how, maybe you can contribute.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377
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Thanks for the heads up, appreciate the reply, btw where is the thanks button? sorry this is my second post here. I started to do some research into it. I believe the answer is in the coredll.dll file which may be stating the obvious. I think the way to go about accessing this or at least what I am going to try is an attempt to gain root access with my device tethered to my comp from terminal.
rbrownvalid said:
Thanks for the heads up, appreciate the reply, btw where is the thanks button? sorry this is my second post here. I started to do some research into it. I believe the answer is in the coredll.dll file which may be stating the obvious. I think the way to go about accessing this or at least what I am going to try is an attempt to gain root access with my device tethered to my comp from terminal.
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Your welcome! I've read through the whole Project Haret thread and there is alot of information, (some way to complicated for me) trial and error and it looks like as of recent there has been some good progress towards getting Haret to perform and (hopefully) run kernel mode and actually boot the kernel. You might be right, give it a shot or maybe put it on the thread and see what kind of feed back you get on it!
Is your device unlocked yet so that you can gain access to it and try it out?
Personally I would love to see the HD7 dual boot WP7 and Android. Don't get me wrong... I thoroughly enjoy WP7 and love my HD7it's very smooth, fast, stable and not once has it crashed on me. I believe that it would bring a longer life experience to the device and make it that much more versatile, especially since we're nearing the end of official support.
The thanks button should be there now, under the posts.
xdrc45 said:
Your welcome! I've read through the whole Project Haret thread and there is alot of information, (some way to complicated for me) trial and error and it looks like as of recent there has been some good progress towards getting Haret to perform and (hopefully) run kernel mode and actually boot the kernel. You might be right, give it a shot or maybe put it on the thread and see what kind of feed back you get on it!
Is your device unlocked yet so that you can gain access to it and try it out?
Personally I would love to see the HD7 dual boot WP7 and Android. Don't get me wrong... I thoroughly enjoy WP7 and love my HD7it's very smooth, fast, stable and not once has it crashed on me. I believe that it would bring a longer life experience to the device and make it that much more versatile, especially since we're nearing the end of official support.
The thanks button should be there now, under the posts.
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Ok so I realize I might sound like an idiot considering everything I said can be found within the haret documentation. I originally read something found on google with inaccurate information after you told me about the project, come to find out the information I read was in no way affiliated with the the actual project haha. Forgive my stupidy, I began to read and follow along the documaton for it at htc-linux.org, the only thing I am having issue with is obtaining haretconsole to explore the device. The link on the documentation I believe no longer exists, and I can't find a source anywhere! This is pretty good stuff though thanks for linking me up with it! Have you installed the development tools or haretconsole on a linux OS by chance? I was successful with the developement tools, just need to figure out this haretconsole problem. BTW which desktop OS do you prefer?
Sadly I can't tell if my device is unlocked yet haha. I work at a university doing LAN Administration currently and used my .edu e-mail to register as a developer. I then registered my device but don't see a single difference or maybe I just am doing something wrong. How do you suggest going about that(unlocking it that is, I don't care about it being official, just figured official would be easlier)? Also for the iPhone there is a desktop application which allows you to access the filesystem called iFunBox, is there anything similar for the wp7?
I would just love android lol, I like the HTC HD7 and have always been a fan of HTC products, It definately is pretty smooth and compared to my previous device a 3gs it's lightening fast! 3g isn't supported with the 3gs on t-mobile either. My biggest issue with wp7 is the fact it doesn't do anything I want to be done in a device, I use my mobile browser ALOT and I have never seen a browser period with this many bugs, I installed safari but it's not even the same lol! For the most part I strongly strongly dislike anything related to microsoft, but unfortunately I have to work with the windows platform quite often because of my job. There just such a dirty/shady/grimmy company period, I saw a commercial yesterday advertising bing where they claimed 2 out of three people choose bing over google in a blind study............how can they advertise that when they stole googles code! lol. Also it was a pretty dirty business move of microsoft to do what your talking about with the wp8. They claim there going to continue support on 7 but we both know they all say that and do put the effort towards the legacy system for a short period of time before cutting it. Screwing Nokia out of major growth potential within the U.S. while going back on the promise made to them regarding free upgrades to 8 for 7 devices. I think they feel like there invincible just because they currently run the desktop OS market share. I think their will likely be a major change in the preferred OS within the next 10 years, just because I work in an 30,000 user enterprise that refuses to upgrade their liscensing with microsoft because of windows 8's inability to meet our needs.
Sorry if this message way to long haha
rbrownvalid said:
Ok so I realize I might sound like an idiot considering everything I said can be found within the haret documentation. I originally read something found on google with inaccurate information after you told me about the project, come to find out the information I read was in no way affiliated with the the actual project haha. Forgive my stupidy, I began to read and follow along the documaton for it at htc-linux.org, the only thing I am having issue with is obtaining haretconsole to explore the device. The link on the documentation I believe no longer exists, and I can't find a source anywhere! This is pretty good stuff though thanks for linking me up with it! Have you installed the development tools or haretconsole on a linux OS by chance? I was successful with the developement tools, just need to figure out this haretconsole problem. BTW which desktop OS do you prefer?
Sadly I can't tell if my device is unlocked yet haha. I work at a university doing LAN Administration currently and used my .edu e-mail to register as a developer. I then registered my device but don't see a single difference or maybe I just am doing something wrong. How do you suggest going about that(unlocking it that is, I don't care about it being official, just figured official would be easlier)? Also for the iPhone there is a desktop application which allows you to access the filesystem called iFunBox, is there anything similar for the wp7?
I would just love android lol, I like the HTC HD7 and have always been a fan of HTC products, It definately is pretty smooth and compared to my previous device a 3gs it's lightening fast! 3g isn't supported with the 3gs on t-mobile either. My biggest issue with wp7 is the fact it doesn't do anything I want to be done in a device, I use my mobile browser ALOT and I have never seen a browser period with this many bugs, I installed safari but it's not even the same lol! For the most part I strongly strongly dislike anything related to microsoft, but unfortunately I have to work with the windows platform quite often because of my job. There just such a dirty/shady/grimmy company period, I saw a commercial yesterday advertising bing where they claimed 2 out of three people choose bing over google in a blind study............how can they advertise that when they stole googles code! lol. Also it was a pretty dirty business move of microsoft to do what your talking about with the wp8. They claim there going to continue support on 7 but we both know they all say that and do put the effort towards the legacy system for a short period of time before cutting it. Screwing Nokia out of major growth potential within the U.S. while going back on the promise made to them regarding free upgrades to 8 for 7 devices. I think they feel like there invincible just because they currently run the desktop OS market share. I think their will likely be a major change in the preferred OS within the next 10 years, just because I work in an 30,000 user enterprise that refuses to upgrade their liscensing with microsoft because of windows 8's inability to meet our needs.
Sorry if this message way to long haha
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Sorry its taken me so long to get back with you... Been crazy busy!
Unfortunetly I only have Windows OS, PC and Laptop. Funny enough though, I just got my laptop back from the shop a couple weeks ago and I had to have the harddrive replaced. Last week my PC got the BSOD (blue screen of death) and I had to completly wipe and restore it.
My next computer will be a Linux OS forsure. I wish I had one currently to install Haret and play around with it!
The student registration is limited and you can only sideload a max of 3 unasigned apps. You would be better off to fully unlock your device and install a custom rom, this will give you more options to sideload as many unasighned apps as you want in the form of XAP's through IE. Access to the registry/file system and to apply hack and tweaks. you can then familurize yourself with the OS and file system.
I can help walk you through the unlock process, it's pretty easy.
Go to settings, about, more info. post back all the information from that screen. Enter your device into bootloader mode - Power device off, hold down the volume down button and power the device back on, while continuing to hold down the volume down button, this will bring you into BL mode a tri-colored screen. Post back the information from that screen also.We can go from there. The proccess to unlock it basicially is to downgrade the SPL to 3.xxx or lower to install RSPL/HSPL wich will allow flashing of a custom rom.
My IE works excellent. It might be due to what build version that your device is running on. Either way once we get it unlocked there's custom roms running on Tango 8779 build with nice features and the device runs buttery smooth. there's also more mobile browsers available to install once it's unlocked, Opera Mobile,UC browser and a bunch more. There's all kinds of XAP's you can install to cusromize the device and enhance the user experience.
Totaly agree with you on the Android development for WP7 and the above statement regarding MS
Check out this link for Haret -
http://www.pedersen-web.com/linuxhandheld/index.php?h=2&p=11
Good Luck
I can't wait to install android to my HD7
rbrownvalid said:
Hello all! I jump from phone to phone when ever I can catch a broken one to fix for nearly free. I recently ran into an HTC HD 7 and am not really vibing to the windows mobile 7, and from what I read there is not currently a pre made rom available for installing android on this device. I am pretty technologically advanced and feel confident given the right direction on how to accomplish this I would be capable of creating one. I have read a lot of information but am some what lost mainly because of some of the lingo terminology, being that I haven't hacked/developed outside of the ios platform. I can program in just about any c based language. Any one got ne thing that can help me out here? If I build one how would I install it or go about uploading it to the device? Thanks in advance for any replies I do greatly appreciate all your time! I apologize about the noobness like I said ios is whats been available to me for the past few years, and now I want android like a kid wants candy!!!
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i've htc hd7
i want to install android OS on it please help me
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Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
REVISION: This edit was added on 2.13.14
The above statement was purely a joke when Xposed for LP was merely a dream. To clarify, as of now there is no ETA for Xposed. Ever. Don't ask. Stop. Don't think of it. If you ask, you shall be banned as of the words of the moderator.
I know it may be hard to read sometimes, so I started a new paragraph. If you are confused, look up. ETAs don't exist on this developer website. Thank you.
Xposed is IN THE WORKS and no, there is no beta version. If you beg to differ, post a comment. Don't flame me or anybody.
=D have a WONDERFUL, hate free day.
The full comment posted at https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/18 is:
Thanks guys. Actually, there is no need to worry about alternative approaches. It's not easy to "hack" ART in a similar way as Dalvik, but it's generally working.
What most people forget:
a) ART isn't the only new thing in Lollipop. SELinux requires a lot of extra code and even more thoughts to work around the restrictions. And 64 bit breaks the assumption that everything starts in a single process, as there are two Zygote processes now. I think it's important to consider this right from the start.
b) The actual (net) time required to write code is far away from the time that passes. It's not like I work on Xposed every evening. There are weeks when I don't look at the code at all. Yes, I do have other things in my life, and some have a higher priority. So even if something would take just a few evenings to code, it might take me a couple of weeks to actually do it. And once I publish something, you probably wouldn't like it if I took off for a few weeks.
If it was just about coding, pushing the source could be helpful. But that works best if there's already a clear concept of what is needed and an idea how this can be split up into work packages. Often it takes hours to come up with a concept that can be coded in 20 lines. Remember how many people are using Xposed meanwhile. We don't want to have some quick code that works by accident, so it's vital to think everything through carefully, and that takes time.
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.
pyler said:
No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.
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You can probably count the people who really understand Xposed and how it works at one hand (and you'll basically have to start from scratch for lollipop).
It's not like there were hundreds of contributors in the past, so what you're trying to say here is invalid.
Yes, there would probably be some people who could help out, but keep in mind that every minute rovo is helping others to better understand what's going on isn't available for him to do some actual development (which includes research and drafting ideas).
I'm sure that any top tier dev who feels confident to actually bring xposed for lollipop forward can contact rovo anytime and get his wip code, but so far no one has spoken out.
The sad truth is that 95% of the xda users are people without any real technical knowledge - and the only thing they do is to offer to "test" something to gain access to something before it's release.
Unfortunately those testers are rarely ever needed, at least not within the core development phase, here it takes way more time to explain people what is needed than to just test it yourself.
When you're rolling something out to production and want to make sure that the last little bugs within different usage cases and configurations are squashed, sure you'll need testers, but not before.
But for now that's not the case, so it might be better to keep the unhelpful comments to oneself
KevinDixson said:
Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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Liar
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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If you can't offer something better then be patient.
Primokorn said:
Liar
If you can't offer something better then be patient.
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Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
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(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.
KevinDixson said:
Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.
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Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel
Primokorn said:
Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel
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Hahaha no worries bro just keepin the haters out of this thread :bruh:
just for waiting...
Hope xposed will be ported to lollipop eventually!!!
Hi guys! Yeah, I'm part of those 95% (I'm a lawyer), but I'm very grateful to rovo for his work. I have Nexus 5, but I'm still on Android 4.4.4 because of Xposed, and I'm not going to update to 5.0 until the new version of Xposed is done. You can see how important it is for me. @rovo89, I'm pretty sure that many people would pay you to complete your work. I understand that you have higher priorities and you are doing all of this for fun, but have you thought that you have almost 3 millions of downloads? If you create your team of software engineers and sell Xposed at 2$ (2€), you work on it every day for several months, and we assume that most of the current users buy your product, you will have enough money to pay your team and dedicate all of your time at what you want. It's just a suggestion of one of these 3 millions of users, that would pay more than 2$ and appreciate your work so much! Best regards from Spain!
rovo has said on multiple occasions that he won't take money for working on Xposed as he does not want it to become a job where he feels obligated to work on it full time.
He's working on it already. Offers of monetary gain won't make that work go any faster. Everyone will just have to be patient.
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We don't know if he is really doing on it (I hope yes but..) since we have no proofs (only claims) and no documentable code progress since August 2014. Plus, rovo89 was active here last year till August or so. Then he left.
If there are people who want work on it and have enough skills to port it, they should fork it and not wait. I saw some guys on github who want to work on ART port.
He flat out stated he would not post progress publicly either on GitHub or here and to wait until he had something worth publishing (that real contributors could help with) without bothering him. Comments on issues on GitHub do show he is/was working on it.
The real problem is that people are impatient and feel entitled to updates on progress, even though rovo explicitly stated that he wouldn't be doing that.
As for others *wanting* to work on it; nobody is stopping them forking the project and doing so. If they get it working then that would be fantastic and I'm sure everyone including rovo would be happy and grateful. That's the great thing about open source.
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1. Work hard to create something really, really useful.
2. Make it (and all the resources for re-creating it) available for free.
3. Millions of people use it.
4. Decide not to work so hard on it.
5. Get hounded day in and day out for months by thousands of people.
This is a classic example of "No good deed goes unpunished".
Rovo is a saint. In his shoes, I would have told all of the "hounders" to f**k off a long time ago.
In other words, people, learn how to be grateful, get off of Rovo's case, and move on.
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This is sad, I would donate to help the dev, especially since all this is free
i'm a user and for me is normally this long time...the system of cache is completaly changed....and see it immediately in the booting process and the loading apps process.
Be patient!
Go On Rovo u can do that =)
I hope you are wrong
KevinDixson said:
Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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It is already 2015 and there is still no support for lollipop. It was working fine with jelly bean. I just installed a custom lollipop rom and I wanted to user xposed with greenify. It seems I have to wait and your saying will just be a conspiracy. You should really stop creating this kind of threads. Value people's creativity. That fact that, there is a delay doors not mean it will not be made. If for anything at all, give them some morale
Lollipop is a completely new system. The difference between KitKat and Lollipop is almost the same as between Windows 95 and Windows XP, if not larger... Lollipop looks like ordinary Android, acts like it, but it is NOT it...