Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
REVISION: This edit was added on 2.13.14
The above statement was purely a joke when Xposed for LP was merely a dream. To clarify, as of now there is no ETA for Xposed. Ever. Don't ask. Stop. Don't think of it. If you ask, you shall be banned as of the words of the moderator.
I know it may be hard to read sometimes, so I started a new paragraph. If you are confused, look up. ETAs don't exist on this developer website. Thank you.
Xposed is IN THE WORKS and no, there is no beta version. If you beg to differ, post a comment. Don't flame me or anybody.
=D have a WONDERFUL, hate free day.
The full comment posted at https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/18 is:
Thanks guys. Actually, there is no need to worry about alternative approaches. It's not easy to "hack" ART in a similar way as Dalvik, but it's generally working.
What most people forget:
a) ART isn't the only new thing in Lollipop. SELinux requires a lot of extra code and even more thoughts to work around the restrictions. And 64 bit breaks the assumption that everything starts in a single process, as there are two Zygote processes now. I think it's important to consider this right from the start.
b) The actual (net) time required to write code is far away from the time that passes. It's not like I work on Xposed every evening. There are weeks when I don't look at the code at all. Yes, I do have other things in my life, and some have a higher priority. So even if something would take just a few evenings to code, it might take me a couple of weeks to actually do it. And once I publish something, you probably wouldn't like it if I took off for a few weeks.
If it was just about coding, pushing the source could be helpful. But that works best if there's already a clear concept of what is needed and an idea how this can be split up into work packages. Often it takes hours to come up with a concept that can be coded in 20 lines. Remember how many people are using Xposed meanwhile. We don't want to have some quick code that works by accident, so it's vital to think everything through carefully, and that takes time.
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.
pyler said:
No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.
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You can probably count the people who really understand Xposed and how it works at one hand (and you'll basically have to start from scratch for lollipop).
It's not like there were hundreds of contributors in the past, so what you're trying to say here is invalid.
Yes, there would probably be some people who could help out, but keep in mind that every minute rovo is helping others to better understand what's going on isn't available for him to do some actual development (which includes research and drafting ideas).
I'm sure that any top tier dev who feels confident to actually bring xposed for lollipop forward can contact rovo anytime and get his wip code, but so far no one has spoken out.
The sad truth is that 95% of the xda users are people without any real technical knowledge - and the only thing they do is to offer to "test" something to gain access to something before it's release.
Unfortunately those testers are rarely ever needed, at least not within the core development phase, here it takes way more time to explain people what is needed than to just test it yourself.
When you're rolling something out to production and want to make sure that the last little bugs within different usage cases and configurations are squashed, sure you'll need testers, but not before.
But for now that's not the case, so it might be better to keep the unhelpful comments to oneself
KevinDixson said:
Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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Liar
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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If you can't offer something better then be patient.
Primokorn said:
Liar
If you can't offer something better then be patient.
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Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
KevinDixson said:
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.
KevinDixson said:
Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.
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Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel
Primokorn said:
Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel
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Hahaha no worries bro just keepin the haters out of this thread :bruh:
just for waiting...
Hope xposed will be ported to lollipop eventually!!!
Hi guys! Yeah, I'm part of those 95% (I'm a lawyer), but I'm very grateful to rovo for his work. I have Nexus 5, but I'm still on Android 4.4.4 because of Xposed, and I'm not going to update to 5.0 until the new version of Xposed is done. You can see how important it is for me. @rovo89, I'm pretty sure that many people would pay you to complete your work. I understand that you have higher priorities and you are doing all of this for fun, but have you thought that you have almost 3 millions of downloads? If you create your team of software engineers and sell Xposed at 2$ (2€), you work on it every day for several months, and we assume that most of the current users buy your product, you will have enough money to pay your team and dedicate all of your time at what you want. It's just a suggestion of one of these 3 millions of users, that would pay more than 2$ and appreciate your work so much! Best regards from Spain!
rovo has said on multiple occasions that he won't take money for working on Xposed as he does not want it to become a job where he feels obligated to work on it full time.
He's working on it already. Offers of monetary gain won't make that work go any faster. Everyone will just have to be patient.
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We don't know if he is really doing on it (I hope yes but..) since we have no proofs (only claims) and no documentable code progress since August 2014. Plus, rovo89 was active here last year till August or so. Then he left.
If there are people who want work on it and have enough skills to port it, they should fork it and not wait. I saw some guys on github who want to work on ART port.
He flat out stated he would not post progress publicly either on GitHub or here and to wait until he had something worth publishing (that real contributors could help with) without bothering him. Comments on issues on GitHub do show he is/was working on it.
The real problem is that people are impatient and feel entitled to updates on progress, even though rovo explicitly stated that he wouldn't be doing that.
As for others *wanting* to work on it; nobody is stopping them forking the project and doing so. If they get it working then that would be fantastic and I'm sure everyone including rovo would be happy and grateful. That's the great thing about open source.
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1. Work hard to create something really, really useful.
2. Make it (and all the resources for re-creating it) available for free.
3. Millions of people use it.
4. Decide not to work so hard on it.
5. Get hounded day in and day out for months by thousands of people.
This is a classic example of "No good deed goes unpunished".
Rovo is a saint. In his shoes, I would have told all of the "hounders" to f**k off a long time ago.
In other words, people, learn how to be grateful, get off of Rovo's case, and move on.
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This is sad, I would donate to help the dev, especially since all this is free
i'm a user and for me is normally this long time...the system of cache is completaly changed....and see it immediately in the booting process and the loading apps process.
Be patient!
Go On Rovo u can do that =)
I hope you are wrong
KevinDixson said:
Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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It is already 2015 and there is still no support for lollipop. It was working fine with jelly bean. I just installed a custom lollipop rom and I wanted to user xposed with greenify. It seems I have to wait and your saying will just be a conspiracy. You should really stop creating this kind of threads. Value people's creativity. That fact that, there is a delay doors not mean it will not be made. If for anything at all, give them some morale
Lollipop is a completely new system. The difference between KitKat and Lollipop is almost the same as between Windows 95 and Windows XP, if not larger... Lollipop looks like ordinary Android, acts like it, but it is NOT it...
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I know there's a lot of discussion on this topic about the Incredible S but was wondering on the status of root for the Incredible 2(US-Verizon)?
It's my understanding these devices are pretty much the same, with minor changes to the software (ie: branding and bundling). As far as I've seen, my I2 has many of the same characteristics and behaviors (in terms of shell access, temp root, etc) as the IS as far as what I've seen in this forum (I need to dig around more, though). I suspect whatever exploit happens to work on the IS will work on the I2.
Of course, I could be very wrong.
I've been under the same impression. When inc s gets root, so will we.
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DINC 2
I cant wait. I want CM7GB like I had n my Eris.
I'm liking sense 2.1. We were all trying to get it to work well on the inc 1 with varying levels of success. I'd like to be able to use titanium to restore over 100 apps and also like to get rid of this stupid amount of verizon bloat. Have you guys ever seen so much bloat!? I thought the inc 1 was bad...
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kerfex said:
I cant wait. I want CM7GB like I had n my Eris.
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I came from an Eris as well. Was running CM7 on it, and I miss it dearly. Tried switching my I2 to LauncherPro so I could at least have the familiar environment (I have a registration code I paid for because I like it) and when I rebooted to clear running apps and be on just LP, apps started not working right (many would FC on start). Switched back to Sense and rebooted and all was working again. This annoys me greatly.
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I came from an Eris as well. Was running CM7 on it, and I miss it dearly. Tried switching my I2 to LauncherPro so I could at least have the familiar environment (I have a registration code I paid for because I like it) and when I rebooted to clear running apps and be on just LP, apps started not working right (many would FC on start). Switched back to Sense and rebooted and all was working again. This annoys me greatly.
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u sure u got the right version of LPP installed?
i switched out my sense to LPP ( i too have a registration code ) and all was working just fine for me
did u try to swap out ur LPP?
It's not looking too good for us, TeamAndIRC's JCASE spent about 20-30 minutes with my DInc2 and he tweeted his conclusion - "Yes incredible2 is as screwed as incredibleS, possibly worse. Psneuter works, gingerbread didn't (probably can with some work)"
he is out of town atm, gonna try again once he gets back, i really really really want 2.3.4/gtalk on our ffc
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u sure u got the right version of LPP installed?
i switched out my sense to LPP ( i too have a registration code ) and all was working just fine for me
did u try to swap out ur LPP?
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I got it straight from the Android market. If I run it after letting Sense start, everything works fine. However, if I don't let Sense start, or start manually, things just break. More than likely there's some service not starting that is launched by Sense that is required for certain things to work properly that ties into the framework. This is the kind of behavior that prompted Google to stop source code early access for partners (they should not be modifying the framework). My goal is to reduce resource usage, not add another layer of resource usage due to a personal preference.
Really, I just want to return to CM. Wasn't perfect on the Eris, but allowed me to do whatever I wanted.
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It's not looking too good for us, TeamAndIRC's JCASE spent about 20-30 minutes with my DInc2 and he tweeted his conclusion - "Yes incredible2 is as screwed as incredibleS, possibly worse. Psneuter works, gingerbread didn't (probably can with some work)"
he is out of town atm, gonna try again once he gets back, i really really really want 2.3.4/gtalk on our ffc
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Sigh.... Hoepfully they can figure out something.
sort of, of this topic, why is there no DINC2 forum on xda, how's it supposed to build up support when there's noplace for that to happen?
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sort of, of this topic, why is there no DINC2 forum on xda, how's it supposed to build up support when there's noplace for that to happen?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052075
My reply...
I would have to say I'm horribly upset that there isn't a thread or any support for this phone. Yes, there are people who purchased this phone...some because of warranty issues, some because of upgrades (though I would rather wait a while...since there are so many choices coming.), and others because this is their intro to the android world. Why not dedicate the same time and effort you've dedicated to all of the other phones...yes, it may be a challenge, it may even be a waste of time...but for those people out there who want...no need root and global...this phone is a success. Incredible 1 + newer 1ghz processor + 4 inches + global and a little extra = Epic Success (esp. if root was available). So as a consumer, a business man, a member of this great android community...I beg of you DEVs please assist us. We're here and we're waiting. America.
Just saying
There is forum made for this phone as its almost the same as the IS, with some minor differences. There is also no forum for the desire cdma version... Anyhow the devs who don't own this phone ( or DS or any of the new ones) have a hard time testing there creations. We have some devs who don't own it and its extremely hard to accomplish something this way. Furthermore all the devs of the newer phones try to work together for the s-off. Rom development is a completely different story.
The time for the cdma version belongs in this forum also, so I don't really see any problems...
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I would have to say I'm horribly upset that there isn't a thread or any support for this phone. Yes, there are people who purchased this phone...some because of warranty issues, some because of upgrades (though I would rather wait a while...since there are so many choices coming.), and others because this is their intro to the android world. Why not dedicate the same time and effort you've dedicated to all of the other phones...yes, it may be a challenge, it may even be a waste of time...but for those people out there who want...no need root and global...this phone is a success. Incredible 1 + newer 1ghz processor + 4 inches + global and a little extra = Epic Success (esp. if root was available). So as a consumer, a business man, a member of this great android community...I beg of you DEVs please assist us. We're here and we're waiting. America.
Just saying
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What makes you think no one is working on this phone? As has been pointed out, there are people working on getting forums started here, and there are people getting their hands on these phones and starting to tinker with them (like me). Keep in mind this was JUST released LAST WEEK.
It's not useful to post these kinds of things as they don't really contribute to the discussion for making progress. It takes time and should we get lucky and the IS exploit works on the I2, bonus! Give it time.
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What makes you think no one is working on this phone? As has been pointed out, there are people working on getting forums started here, and there are people getting their hands on these phones and starting to tinker with them (like me). Keep in mind this was JUST released LAST WEEK.
It's not useful to post these kinds of things as they don't really contribute to the discussion for making progress. It takes time and should we get lucky and the IS exploit works on the I2, bonus! Give it time.
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Oh I'm sorry...I thought it was okay to post an opinion on a blog...I didn't think anyone would consider it a threat...especially since all of the current comments center around it, and I just elaborated. If you would like to attack people for posting their opinion about a certain situation...maybe you should do on your own site. Last time I checked...this was AMERICA...**** yeah, going to save the m**herf***in world...America...F*** yeah...lick my *Meow* and suck on my b*lls. Lmao...and that's my reply for you. Please and thank you. I don't hate...I just state.
Oh and one more thing...thanks for contributing to the discussion...seeing that your reply to my original post was very useful. Now back to the subject I just browsed Droidforums and notice a Incredible 2 section...I believe in XDA, and have been a ghost member for a while. I know they are working on it, and it was never my intent to come off as a douche. I was just stating an *OPINION*, I'm keeping an eye on the development of the IS and the general post section of the Incredible. I'm alert, and advise all to continue to stay alert...maybe in a week or two, we'll see some results.
Wow. No disrespect... But Americans ARE stupid.... Ok maybe its just you. We all know the i2 is so similar to the IS that discussion for both can take place here. The same thing happened with the milestone/droid thread. Full stop. Can this thread be locked up?
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Uhh, the Milestone and Droid were vastly different in the entire bootloader business. This made the threads ENTIRELY different..... For now it's like Droid 2 and Milestone 2. Both are stuck at square 1 with a locked bootloader.
If it's offensive to explain complaints about lack of progress is annoying and ask for patience, then I have no idea how to not be offensive (yeah, I'm a "dumb American") so I'll refrain from posting here anymore.
Not about the hardware- that's nothing short of exceptional to me. What I'm wondering is, why are all the new Kitkat based custom roms so stripped-down? I know it's new, and I'm also not a developer but I can appreciate the hard work that goes into making them. On all my devices I've been able to count on roms like CyanogenMod and others to add the subtle tweaks that I feel should have come from the factory. CM 10.2 was a killer ROM and had all the features I needed. I've tried some of these new KK roms and theyre either too much, or too vanilla. All the OP's say they're starting clean. I'm sure someone will tell me "Learn how to build your own if you don't like it" but does anyone know if/when the devs plan to start incorporating features back? I hope no one takes offense to this, as that is not my intention. I'm just trying to understand why this happened. Was it like this when ICS and JB came out?
I agree with you...
Just ask google for a refund
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I think streamlined is the term you are searching for. I've been using Android for quite some time now and lightweight is what I prefer. Plus, it's inevitable to have a little more functionality with custom ROMs.
Not trying to offend, but it sounds to me like you haven't been around Android for very long if you weren't around for the ICS to JB update. So with that, I'm glad you're on board. So sit back, relax, and enjoy your amazing phone that has a pure Android experience.
Keep flashing and I'm certain you'll find the perfect fit for you.
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IrocD said:
does anyone know if/when the devs plan to start incorporating features back?
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When they feel like it, or install the xposed framework and some of its modules.
"Why this happened?" Probably because the phone has been available for barely over a month. Nothing "happened." I've never seen so much development on a new phone in such a short period of time. Jeez.
Just wait...
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All devs on all devices start by making the base as stable as possible first. Only THEN do the features get added in.
Remember, this is a Nexus device. It is the first device to receive kitkat. It takes time for devs to build features back in to a new base. They don't just "slot in". They need to be amended, debugged and sometimes completely re-written
You're an early adoptor of the nexus. ALL brand new devices takes time to develop for. But imagine you buy the next HTC device released in 6 months time with kitkat... cm devs have been working with kitkat sources for 7 or 8 months by that time. The features will almost just "slot in" but on a brand new base, it takes a lot of time. Im not sure you really do appreciate the hard work involved
Its also worth noting, cm's feature set is identical across all kitkat builds on all devices. Its only the device tree that varies
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The phone and 4.4 are brand new. Slim and CM are developing their Roms. Patience is virtue.
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To everyone who wrote a useful, non-sarcastic response, thank you. You answered my questions. To the jerks, I have one word. Karma.
I am on the stock rom and I have nearly all the features and tweaks that custom roms have.
Just install xposed framework and gravitybox module and you should be alright. You can download more modules depending on your needs.
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Try Slim rom, they have a good amount of added features now.
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The CM features are coming, don't worry! Then AOKP will be up, and then AOSPA, then you won't know what to do with yourself! It just takes a bit for the developers to redo features for the brand new version of Android. We've been a bit spoiled in that the transition from the Jellybean 4.x.x updates weren't terribly hard to push code up for, but KitKat has a lot more going on under the hood.
Edit: and if you recall how CM6 and CM7 looked, the streamlined look also makes for a MUCH easier UI, vs the clutter that kinda existed in the froyo and GB days.
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To everyone who wrote a useful, non-sarcastic response, thank you. You answered my questions. To the jerks, I have one word. Karma.
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You have to understand that the devs here aren't getting paid for what they do. They have jobs and lives outside of Android development, and they do this in their spare time for free. For you to pop in and start a thread in the forums for a brand-new phone basically saying "hey guys, why aren't you developing more" comes off as kind of rude. You're new here so I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but you have to understand that some patience is required with a brand-new phone and a brand-new version of Android. I'm amazed at the amount of development that we already have, to be honest.
All you need is Xposed and Gravity Box. I'm running stock rooted with those two, and I got my Rom exactly how I like it.
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You have to understand that the devs here aren't getting paid for what they do. They have jobs and lives outside of Android development, and they do this in their spare time for free. For you to pop in and start a thread in the forums for a brand-new phone basically saying "hey guys, why aren't you developing more" comes off as kind of rude. You're new here so I'm sure that wasn't your intention, but you have to understand that some patience is required with a brand-new phone and a brand-new version of Android. I'm amazed at the amount of development that we already have, to be honest.
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Can you please point me to where I said they should do something faster? Because frankly, I'm not seeing it. In fact, I specificially said that I appreciate the hard work that goes into them. All I was asking, was to be educated on why all the roms were starting clean. It seems some people understood this, and offered relevant responses while others simply flamed. It's no wonder that people get a bad taste of these forums with the way they get treated, when they simply asked a question and even carefully worded it so as not to be offensive or greedy.
When we went from ICS to JB, it wasn't like this. Devs didn't 'start fresh' like this. So clearly something DID happen, i.e. a change of some kind, that led them to do what they are doing. And all I wanted was to be educated on what that was! Not once did I say that these hard working people with lives who do this for FREE should do it FASTER. But people, who are possibly only semi-literate, immediately assume that someone is saying what they are clearly NOT saying. Is it boredom that leads people to jump on someone in a forum for no reason? Either say something constructive and don't be a warmonger, or move on.
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All you need is Xposed and Gravity Box. I'm running stock rooted with those two, and I got my Rom exactly how I like it.
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Thank you for your concise and constructive answer. From what I'm reading, I think you've led me in the right direction.
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The CM features are coming, don't worry! Then AOKP will be up, and then AOSPA, then you won't know what to do with yourself! It just takes a bit for the developers to redo features for the brand new version of Android. We've been a bit spoiled in that the transition from the Jellybean 4.x.x updates weren't terribly hard to push code up for, but KitKat has a lot more going on under the hood..
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THIS WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!! THANK YOU!! What a simple answer, that was not negative in any way, that told me what I was looking for. Thank you for not being insulting, and just telling me that it was easier to do JB updates than KK. So like I said, something was different about KK that made it more difficult to code for. Thank you for keeping in the spirit of constructively helping others.
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Thank you for your concise and constructive answer. From what I'm reading, I think you've led me in the right direction.
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I also like the Cataclysm ROM, very "stock-ish" with good features.
Gravity box is a great module. Many of us use it
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CyboLabs is Proud to present
Open Bump!
What is Open Bump?
Open Bump is a recreation of the closed source Bump project run by Codefire.
It will allow you to "sign" your boot images in the same way that Codefire does it, only you don't need an internet connection.
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What Open Bump is NOT
lets get the obvious out the way. It won't axe murder you.
It is not a direct reverse engineer of Codefire's implementation. I found the key and iv on my own
The magic bytes were taken from Codefire's method however. If anyone has insight has to how they were found, please shout up.
It does NOT take your private data so you can use it. Tin hatters feel free to double check
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How did I find this out
I had a general idea of what to look for, having heard that the exploit is related uicc, and is signed with a cipher.
Dropping the aboot image in to Ghex led me to finding a reference to "uiccsecurity". Using the bytes around this, I found a repeat of 32 bytes, which was followed by 16 bytes which formed something that resembled "SecureWallpaper".
As you can probably guess, this was mainly trail and error backed by common sense and logical thinking.
you can programmatically find these values with the python script:
Python:
aboot_name = './aboot.img'
aboot = open(aboot_name, 'rb').read()
key_end = aboot.index('uicc')
key_start = key_end - 32
key = aboot[key_start:key_end]
sec_key_start = aboot.index(key, key_end)
iv_start = sec_key_start + 32
iv_end = iv_start + 16
iv = aboot[iv_start:iv_end]
deciphering some already generated "signatures" proved that these were the key and iv used for "signing" the images.
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What is coming next?
Inspecting the signatures that were originally uploaded and the ones that people can generate now, I found only one pattern.
The only similarities were the first 16 bytes of each "signature". I believe that only the magic number is needed, and none of the garbage that follows. This has been confirmed by the LG G3 dev from CyanogenMod, Invisiblek Done
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How to use it?
I don't know how well this will run on anything other than linux, so for now.. I won't talk about it.
First, ensure you are using python2
then run the script
Code:
python2 open_bump.py "/path/to/boot.img"
flash the output, and enjoy
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Thanks to:
Obviously, this wouldn't have been possible without Codefire since I wouldn't have known where to look, or that it was exploitable. And it was them that found the magic key.
Big thank you to @pulser_g2, who offered invaluable input on cryptography
Big thank you to @invisiblek, who I mercilessly kanged the main part of the image padding script from
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The original part of finding this information out was done on my own with guidance from pulser. The final results of this are posted above.
XDA:DevDB Information
Open_Bump, Tool/Utility for the LG G2
Contributors
cybojenix
Source Code: https://github.com/CyboLabs/Open_Bump
Version Information
Status: Beta
Created 2014-11-23
Last Updated 2014-11-23
Thanks, thats great news to have an open source tool here!
Do you see any chance that this could be integrated into CWM/TWRP so that the recovery rom could bump the boot/recovery images before flashing?
Because the boot/recovery.img has to be extracted from the ROM-zip before flashing, bumping it here would make sure that the phone can boot the image even with the newer bootloader.
This would be great for rom-devs since they don't have to change anything and it would even bump roms that are not maintained anymore.
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Thanks, thats great news to have an open source tool here!
Do you see any chance that this could be integrated into CWM/TWRP so that the recovery rom could bump the boot/recovery images before flashing?
Because the boot/recovery.img has to be extracted from the ROM-zip before flashing, bumping it here would make sure that the phone can boot the image even with the newer bootloader.
This would be great for rom-devs since they don't have to change anything and it would even bump roms that are not maintained anymore.
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simple answer, this can be added to the build step really easily. See this commit
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of course it may be useful to make a c program to do this.... I shall think on it.
Propably stupid question but i ll give a shot. Since we have the magic key we cant just skip the bump stuff totally? As i can understand, i dont wait official developer team join the bump train, thats why the damn development of the device is really back while the hardware is more than capable.
**To the OP i wish i could give you a thousand likes sir!
After getting the bootloader may be open G3؟؟
Why not use the original Bump?
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Codefire has been extremely vague about their method, obviously to prevent someone else replicating their results.
They are also storing people's data unnecessarily, and even adding some information relating to the user in to the "signature", possibly for tracking purposes.
As a result of it being an external service, many reputable teams (which won't be named unless they want to be) have said they will not use it, and would rather wait till LG releases the official unlock method.
Finally, Codefire have said the sha1sum of the boot image is required. Whether they knew or not, it is NOT required, and I will be changing this tool to compensate for that.
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Happy you found a new exploit for us builders and devs, just feel like you kinda disrespected codefire team by accusing them of things before actually talking to them, seems a bit counter productive, this may piss them off and next device you can kiss new exploits by them good-bye,
just my 2 cents on the matter,
i'd remove the line...
in any case thank you very much, i will add it to my build script
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Propably stupid question but i ll give a shot. Since we have the magic key we cant just skip the bump stuff totally? As i can understand, i dont wait official developer team join the bump train, thats why the damn development of the device is really back while the hardware is more than capable.
**To the OP i wish i could give you a thousand likes sir!
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"Bump stuff" has nothing to do with users, the devs and builders do the "bumping", and development of the G series has nothing to do with bumping, it just takes time to bring everything up
Good job cybojenix. (moderator edit: watch your language please)
Way to ruin a good thing.
I'm done with Android now. You can do it all now - since you obviously know better than me and everyone else.
I don't appreciate people trying to blackmail me - EnderBlue and Cybo both.
Don't believe me? http://hastebin.com/gulumezawi.txt
Good job guys. Way to ruin unlocks for all future LG phones.
If I *EVER* decide to come back, I will not be releasing anything as free or open source. You've sullied my impression of the open source community. Anything I do will be private releases from now on.
LG hadn't patched Bump, and they were going to leave it alone for us as long as we kept it as a service.
Well, looks like that's over and done with.
Bump included a hash of the image that you uploaded and a hash of your developer ID, and some random junk bytes. That's all. It's exactly what we said it was doing.
Well, hey, now you're free to take over and write roots and unlocks for all LG phones since you obviously have the talent to do so.
Let's be honest though, without my team's hard work that you stole, you wouldn't have been able to do any of this.
But you knew that, you're just a bottom feeder.
I don't get angry often at all- but congrats! You've succeeded in making me mad! Achievement unlocked!
I'm done. Your turn.
EDIT: Also, you know you can't open source your project either considering it contains 'stolen' LG crypto keys. https://github.com/CyboLabs/Open_Bump/issues/1
Have fun with that one.
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Good job cybojenix. (moderator edit: watch your language please)
Way to ruin a good thing.
I'm done with Android now. You can do it all now - since you obviously know better than me and everyone else.
I don't appreciate people trying to blackmail me - EnderBlue and Cybo both.
Don't believe me? http://hastebin.com/gulumezawi.txt
Good job guys. Way to ruin unlocks for all future LG phones.
If I *EVER* decide to come back, I will not be releasing anything as free or open source. You've sullied my impression of the open source community. Anything I do will be private releases from now on.
LG hadn't patched Bump, and they were going to leave it alone for us as long as we kept it as a service.
Well, looks like that's over and done with.
Bump included a hash of the image that you uploaded and a hash of your developer ID, and some random junk bytes. That's all. It's exactly what we said it was doing.
Well, hey, now you're free to take over and write roots and unlocks for all LG phones since you obviously have the talent to do so.
Let's be honest though, without my team's hard work that you stole, you wouldn't have been able to do any of this.
But you knew that, you're just a bottom feeder.
I don't get angry often at all- but congrats! You've succeeded in making me mad! Achievement unlocked!
I'm done. Your turn.
EDIT: Also, you know you can't open source your project either considering it contains 'stolen' LG crypto keys. https://github.com/CyboLabs/Open_Bump/issues/1
Have fun with that one.
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First off, I didn't black mail. I gave your team notice about open sourcing it after reverse engineering the LG bootloader, not your "signatures".
It's your choice if you want to leave Android. Pinning the blame on me is somewhat childish though.
LG not patching Bump? That's a ludicrous statement, and even if it's true, it's good that this script got released. That way they know it should be patched, since having it a service clearly makes all the difference to them.
The hardest part of your teams work was getting the keys. If you know where to look, then it's easy enough to get engineering builds which I suspect contain the master magic bytes which you released.
I'm honestly shocked at your reaction though. I gave your team all the credit and stated which parts I did myself. The part about the service, and the deception was justified.
You tried to obscure something which by logic can't be obscured. That's how so many people realised they can just append the bytes to the image.
So which one would you rather have, LG not patching the exploit (as you so claim), and having an unknown number of people in china running around flashing custom boot images, or have everyone know how to do it to force LG to recheck their security measures.
What I did may not have been fantastic for the community, but what you did was insanely dangerous for the 90% of LG users.
All you did was make it so LG locks down the bootloader. And really 90% of users??? There probably isn't even 3 percent of the LG base on this website. All you did was screw everybody else over so you could have YOUR OFFICIAL CM.
As well people saying you didn't do enough and are still using there signing key as well as attacking it as well.
Way to think about yourself. You didn't care about the 90% or you wouldn't have done this.
I personally hope LG locks down the bootloader now. Go the way Samsung did and put an efuse on it and prevent downgrading. Hopefully all this happens with lollipop so you can screw over the rest of the LG crowd.
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it's good that this script got released. That way they know it should be patched, since having it a service clearly makes all the difference to them.
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"Hey let's potentially close all future LG unlocks and thus the chance to use CyanogenMod on future LG devices then. Just so I can get the current CM builds to say 'Official' and get a big pat on the back from the CM dudes who probably don't care about me too much."
Is that what went through your mind? That instant gratification and ignorance really shows who you are because that's exactly what I see from this OP of yours. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. You probably just killed a chance for years of it.
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"Hey let's potentially close all future LG unlocks and thus the chance to use CyanogenMod on future LG devices then. Just so I can get the current CM builds to say 'Official' and get a big pat on the back from the CM dudes who probably don't care about me too much."
Is that what went through your mind? That instant gratification and ignorance really shows who you are because that's exactly what I see from this OP of yours. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. You probably just killed a chance for years of it.
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Yes, because I've been such a massive supporter of cm. (sarcasm in case you didn't realise).
I started reverse engineering the bootloader for research purposes. If it was more complex than what I have said above, then I probably wouldn't have done this thread.
If it weren't for the fact that the magic stays the same across all signatures, then I also wouldn't have done this thread.
The response I got from them when I contacted them before releasing this was pretty much one of lack of care. So I went ahead and posted it.
I couldn't care less about fame. In fact there isn't really a lot I do care about, but I won't have the community alienated in to thinking the codefire service was such a great thing.
And once again, I refuse to take the blame for their team leaving Android.
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All you did was make it so LG locks down the bootloader. And really 90% of users??? There probably isn't even 3 percent of the LG base on this website. All you did was screw everybody else over so you could have YOUR OFFICIAL CM.
As well people saying you didn't do enough and are still using there signing key as well as attacking it as well.
Way to think about yourself. You didn't care about the 90% or you wouldn't have done this.
I personally hope LG locks down the bootloader now. Go the way Samsung did and put an efuse on it and prevent downgrading. Hopefully all this happens with lollipop so you can screw over the rest of the LG crowd.
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See my other post, I don't care about cm.
Fair enough, 3% are here, so this benefits the security of 97% of lg uses, if the claim that lg was alright with it running s a service is true.
Either way, I did nothing wrong
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I couldn't care less about fame. In fact there isn't really a lot I do care about, but I won't have the community alienated in to thinking the codefire service was such a great thing.
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So you only care about ruining good things, and other people's work?
Lol sorry I think I'm done with you. By cybo
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So you only care about ruining good things, and other people's work?
Lol sorry I think I'm done with you. By cybo
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Tbh I thought it would have been clear by now what I care about. Then again I may have been wrong about considering you one of the smart android people.
I care about learning and sharing knowledge. Which is precisely what this thread did.
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See my other post, I don't care about cm.
Fair enough, 3% are here, so this benefits the security of 97% of lg uses, if the claim that lg was alright with it running s a service is true.
Either way, I did nothing wrong
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I saw your PM to autoprime in IRC, it was "I am going to post what I found or you do, either way its going there", it wasn't lack of care, it was that you just stated a fact and left, it was a very rude unthoughtful thing to do, also don't try to BS everyone with your research, you and about 100 other people found the "magic keys", the problem is those "magic keys" were placed there by team codefire, you didn't find them, you found that they were using the key and copied their work, anything else you say is a lie, at least the other 99 people who found this had the basic respect to not post it unless the original team allowed it.
There was no reason to post this, their site was working fine, and if you used the API there was no problem of tracking since it just uses a UID to identify to the server.
at least admit you were wrong and say you are sorry, they won't fix anything but will gain you a minimum amount of respect
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I saw your PM to autoprime in IRC, it was "I am going to post what I found or you do, either way its going there", it wasn't lack of care, it was that you just stated a fact and left, it was a very rude unthoughtful thing to do, also don't try to BS everyone with your research, you and about 100 other people found the "magic keys", the problem is those "magic keys" were placed there by team codefire, you didn't find them, you found that they were using the key and copied their work, anything else you say is a lie, at least the other 99 people who found this had the basic respect to not post it unless the original team allowed it.
There was no reason to post this, their site was working fine, and if you used the API there was no problem of tracking since it just uses a UID to identify to the server.
at least admit you were wrong and say you are sorry, they won't fix anything but will gain you a minimum amount of respect
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Wrong, I stated that I was going to open source it, meaning the work of put in to getting the key and how it's used to get the original magic.
It was after that that I realised the final magic is the only thing needed. I actually worked out how to get the magic key a few hours ago, but since I don't have the right images, it won't be globally usable.
Fair enough, I apologise for pointing out the flaws in codefires service, and that they took it badly.
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See my other post, I don't care about cm.
Fair enough, 3% are here, so this benefits the security of 97% of lg uses, if the claim that lg was alright with it running s a service is true.
Either way, I did nothing wrong
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OK. If you did nothing wrong please do explain this
Enderblue-"well, would you be willing to open source it so we can have a official cm support?"
IoMonster-"so it would make storm already worse then what it is now? *paraphrasing for language
IoMonster-"no"
Seems like be said he didn't want it open source but you still went ahead any way.
http://hastebin.com/gulumezawi.txt
And then you saying your going to push it for vs985 even after he said no.
I don't know who Enderblue is, and I'm not affiliated with him..
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OK. If you did nothing wrong please do explain this
Enderblue-"well, would you be willing to open source it so we can have a official cm support?"
IoMonster-"so it would make storm already worse then what it is now? *paraphrasing for language
IoMonster-"no"
Seems like be said he didn't want it open source but you still went ahead any way.
http://hastebin.com/gulumezawi.txt
And then you saying your going to push it for vs985 even after he said no.
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I don't know who Enderblue is, and I'm not affiliated with him..
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It isn't like it matters if you are or not. It says right in the chat he doesn't want it open sourced. I'm sure about 99% of the people on here have seen that already and I'm pretty sure you have seen it as well.
It states right in the chat he didn't want it open sourced.
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It isn't like it matters if you are or not. It says right in the chat he doesn't want it open sourced. I'm sure about 99% of the people on here have seen that already and I'm pretty sure you have seen it as well.
It states right in the chat he didn't want it open sourced.
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but the chat wasn't with me, so your point is null
autoprime had ample opportunity to say "don't do it yet", or "go talk to IO". but no, no objections were made.
Codefire treated the service like any other company would treat their unlocking service, so I treated them like a company and showed how it was done.
hi @rovo89
as far as i can see your last post regarding lollipop/art was on 22nd october. and yes, i read all the relevant posts. i'm not asking for eta but for just any kind of information, like
"i'm on it"
"i'm not on it"
"i gave up"
"still dealing with selinux"
"stuck on some problem"
"real life is more important at the moment"
"most parts (don't) work"
just something...
thanks
Did you read this post?
You will see that he asks that nobody asks about it and rather just waits until it's done.
Please, just wait until he decides to make a post on his progress himself. Can you imagine the pressure of people constantly asking for progress reports? It isn't fair to place someone under that pressure, in my opinion.
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yes i read it. i read every post regarding art. i know he doesn't want to be asked(and yet i still do). and no i cant imagine pressure arising from progress reports once or twice a month which can be as long as one sentence.
but i can imagine the pressure of people who want to see an art-compatible xposed as soon as possible or who want etas.
i'm not asking for any of this. and i'm also not demanding because i'm completely aware of the fact that he doesn't owe anyone anything. but i still think it would be quite reasonable and not too much asked to give us a sign of life regarding the process once in a while.
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yes i read it. i read every post regarding art. i know he doesn't want to be asked(and yet i still do). and no i cant imagine pressure arising from progress reports once or twice a month which can be as long as one sentence.
but i can imagine the pressure of people who want to see an art-compatible xposed as soon as possible or who want etas.
i'm not asking for any of this. and i'm also not demanding because i'm completely aware of the fact that he doesn't owe anyone anything. but i still think it would be quite reasonable and not too much asked to give us a sign of life regarding the process once in a while.
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Eh I wouldn't hold my breath really. Its simpler to assume that he has given up and get used to lp w/o xposed. Essentially the only thing I personally will miss is the NLP wakelock limiter that I have atm. The rest is superficial (the nlp limiter on the other hand is essential thanks to google's awful coding)
And yeah inb4 the wave of fanboys (xda is a terrible circlejerk really) shouting you down and telling you that asking for anything (after getting baited into waiting...) is a crime of the worst sort and evil of the worst kind.
./yawn
He literally said that he would work on it after retail L released and wouldn't post anything here until he had something at least partially working for other developers to be able to assist in development. That post is here and explains the challenges in getting Xposed to work on Lollipop.
Reading the available information and understanding it, then not bugging rovo89 or wanting him to be driven off by impatient people doesn't make anyone a fanboy, so please let's keep this civil. Thanks.
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He literally said that he would work on it after retail L released and wouldn't post anything here until he had something at least partially working for other developers to be able to assist in development.
Reading the available information and understanding it, then not bugging rovo89 or wanting him to be driven off by impatient people doesn't make anyone a fanboy.
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Sure, but being someone's whiteknight certainly does. (Seriously lets face it there will be more and more people begging for xposed as time rolls on and more 5.0 roms turn up - are you going to reply to them all?)
Besides he said in no uncertain terms that he's not sure he has the motivation to bother. Nor is he sure he can deal with the new SElinux restrictions. At least last I checked.
Thus my statement: Easier to assume it won't happen and then be happy if it does
I'm not needlessly protecting anyone, rather simply providing information to somebody as I'm supposed to as a RC, so please let's keep name calling out of it and keep it civil like I already asked. Thanks.
I'm going to leave this discussion, as it will probably escalate and my original intention was just to link to the post that rovo made that may have been missed, not to start a debate.
Cheers.
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yes i read it. i read every post regarding art. i know he doesn't want to be asked(and yet i still do)...
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That about sums up why this thread now closed.
"I know the fire's hot, but what the heck, I'll touch it anyway" :good:
Before I start saying anything and before anyone starts ranting or fighting or whatever I want to make one thing crispy clear: I don't want, under any circumstances, to fight or argue in any way with other developers, contributors, users, whatsoever nor do I want to claim anything as correct. I am anytime ready to accept it if I am proven wrong for anything. Show me a proof against what I said and I will accept it. I'm not claiming anything to be right what I'm saying, but as long as it is not proven wrong I'm assuming it is right. Of course some statements base on assumptions and guesses, hence there is no reason for ranting about something particular I said that I am not entirely sure of. I just want to get this out because it has been sitting inside of me for a while and this is the only way I can get it out without offending or insulting anyone.
A statement from my side regarding TWRP and ROMs for the OP5:
I have seen many device trees so far, and the "official" TWRP as well and I'm pretty disappointed to see people not wanting to work together. Of course there are exceptions, for example I have been working together with @benschhold and @gtpitch on TWRP as well as on ROMs and it has been a pretty good experience so far. But I have also seen @Dees_Troy releasing his own TWRP. I tried to contact him and whoever is behind TWRP earlier to get a working TWRP up and running and official. No response. At least I haven't seen anything. I am anytime ready to work together and build working stuff, but I'm not ready to see something that is exactly the same as I did (his TWRP literally has the same, if not more, issues than mine, as far as user reports have told us) and releases it as an official product which should have been tested and does not even fix the issues we have so far.
I know mine is unofficial and I have stated nowhere that this would be official but if you check the sources used for my recovery as well as take the user reports into consideration you will notice that none of the issues we currently have on the now latest recovery image, that is version 72, have been fixed in either mine or his recovery. I would have liked to work together with developers to build a stable, fully working custom recovery with as many parts of it totally free and open-sourced for anyone to inspect. Regarding authorship, I'm anytime ready to correct authors in case they are wrong. What I am not ready for is seeing others taking my work and putting it under their own authorship so that nobody will know about what I did and instead honor the non-existent work of others misleadingly causing the community to think I would have stolen the work from others.
As I already said, I am open to any corrections regarding this.
Another aspect is the custom ROM section. While it's all good and fine to see ROMs coming out for the OP5, none of these are actually stable and fully tested. They might have been flashed and booted up and roughly checked for functionality but not actually tested for quality (not claiming anything here). I really can see a race between ROMs, maybe even a war, everyone perhaps even stealing the work of each other and claiming to be first but of course saying it's super highly experimental and whatsoever.
Why is this happening? I know I have very low reputation for saying anything in this matter, even though I am lead developer and co-founder of a ROM. I don't want to claim that anyone stole my work, and I don't want to be showing examples as they might not even be right because some things can really be done by anyone without seeing what others did. But still, everyone is racing against each other, except for a few ROMs, and trying to say hey yo we brought this rom out for jellyburger super fast and we are the best... blablabla, whatsoever, make sure to decrypt, make sure not to do this not to do that, note this doesn't work.... I guess y'all get the point.
Why do people work against each other and not together? Just trying to be the best, the first, whatsoever? I mean it's cool when you are first and best but it's not cool pretending to be so and in reality just having taken a WIP tree from whatever github profile you just went on and saying your ROM is the first, while in reality you actually don't have any idea about what you are doing. Guys, really.... I appreciate when people do in fact help bringing up custom roms for the OP5, I admit that I also take advantage of that for building my own rom, but I also try to improve it, contribute to it, to make sure others have access to my work and using it without changing authorship. Of course many developers e. g. copy whole directories into their device tree instead of getting the whole commit history in, and, to some extent, that is more or less acceptable, because there is no really convenient way of doing so, but at least, when picking individual commits, do keep authorship. Thanks for your understanding and I hope this community does not become corrupted.
I'm open for a peaceful discussion in this thread, let's get it started!
Cheeseburger developers and testers who can provide logs shall join https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEN_kkG6_WJe8IlG2Q
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Cheeseburger developers and testers who can provide logs shall join https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEN_kkG6_WJe8IlG2Q
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Is not a bad beginning, but there actually is a dev group, so in case anyone wants to work together with each other, let me know. (Developers only)
Sad but true how many ROMs for the op5 have there source in the op?
Surely it's better for all of us to work collectively towards building a better base
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Sad but true how many ROMs for the op5 have there source in the op?
Surely it's better for all of us to work collectively towards building a better base
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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Trees don't have to be equal but everyone should share contributions and help each other.
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Trees don't have to be equal but everyone should share contributions and help each other.
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The general issue here is we all work opensource even if they are official teamwin they could just copycated your changes(im not saying this just assuming), dont want to insult anyone here but thats how it goes opensource projects are open and you cant change this, on the other hand they could actually start working on it legitely even if your recorvery is pretty stable(i would say 99%) they started it before but were able to get it to same point but later. As for now we need more developers in kernel section but i see you doing a good job keep it up my dude. :good:
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The general issue here is we all work opensource even if they are official teamwin they could just copycated your changes(im not saying this just assuming), dont want to insult anyone here but thats how it goes opensource projects are open and you cant change this, on the other hand they could actually start working on it legitely even if your recorvery is pretty stable(i would say 99%) they started it before but were able to get it to same point but later. As for now we need more developers in kernel section but i see you doing a good job keep it up my dude. :good:
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The point is that it seems to be that they don't even care about their users. Don't quote me on that, as it might be wrong, but it seems to be that they simply just want to look down on other developers and be the big guys.
While I try to provide good support as much as possible, and release all my changes mostly individually, he simply gave it out once and every now and then might eventually look at the last 5 posts and maybe answer. I mean... I know he probably has alot of work to do but still. Released something officially without even checking for bugs. They say they make sure they provide quality but I can't see the quality there.
And for the other thing you mentioned... Most of the things they have in their tree really seem to be something that has been around for a longer time, but not actually made by themselves and just committed recently:
I don't really know why everyone tells to.keep authorship and maintaining a commit history and what not but end up simply copy and pasting the whole tree and commit that at once. Whatever. If this doesn't stop soon, I will start thinking about whether it is really worth doing this because from my point of view this is just looking down on me and releasing something that does not even work quite as well just to keep me away. I know I might be wrong anytime but this is what it feels like.
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The point is that it seems to be that they don't even care about their users. Don't quote me on that, as it might be wrong, but it seems to be that they simply just want to look down on other developers and be the big guys.
While I try to provide good support as much as possible, and release all my changes mostly individually, he simply gave it out once and every now and then might eventually look at the last 5 posts and maybe answer. I mean... I know he probably has alot of work to do but still. Released something officially without even checking for bugs. They say they make sure they provide quality but I can't see the quality there.
And for the other thing you mentioned... Most of the things they have in their tree really seem to be something that has been around for a longer time, but not actually made by themselves and just committed recently:
I don't really know why everyone tells to.keep authorship and maintaining a commit history and what not but end up simply copy and pasting the whole tree and commit that at once. Whatever. If this doesn't stop soon, I will start thinking about whether it is really worth doing this because from my point of view this is just looking down on me and releasing something that does not even work quite as well just to keep me away. I know I might be wrong anytime but this is what it feels like.
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The next thing here is we shouldn't really assume anything cuz it might be making us look stupid, i would generally say to not care about what they do and i can say that most phones i had, used twrp from users there was no official ones and even if there was it wasn't functioning like other.
Right now how i see it is they opened a thread and called it official(i don't remember if they called it stable) and most users like official stuff so this generally looks funny from your pov, from mine too as i am self called open source developer and i know general ideas behind being open.
The only issue here i can see is that he doesn't respond to you soo it looks bad i really wouldn't assume anything cuz it can piss off a few ppl that's what i want to generally tell you to kindof watch out on the community around this because it already looks weird. If you want you can pm me with your telegram nickname and ill add you to a group where we work on a kernel fixing a small gelatinous issue some(me included) have. Would be for best if he answered to your pms soo you can have a talk and for now it looks like "stolen" work but at the same time we shouldn't assume stuff, for now i don't really know what to say on this whole matter it really looks quite weird and i don't like it too.
MasterDomino said:
The next thing here is we shouldn't really assume anything cuz it might be making us look stupid, i would generally say to not care about what they do and i can say that most phones i had, used twrp from users there was no official ones and even if there was it wasn't functioning like other.
Right now how i see it is they opened a thread and called it official(i don't remember if they called it stable) and most users like official stuff so this generally looks funny from your pov, from mine too as i am self called open source developer and i know general ideas behind being open.
The only issue here i can see is that he doesn't respond to you soo it looks bad i really wouldn't assume anything cuz it can piss off a few ppl that's what i want to generally tell you to kindof watch out on the community around this because it already looks weird. If you want you can pm me with your telegram nickname and ill add you to a group where we work on a kernel fixing a small gelatinous issue some(me included) have. Would be for best if he answered to your pms soo you can have a talk and for now it looks like "stolen" work but at the same time we shouldn't assume stuff, for now i don't really know what to say on this whole matter it really looks quite weird and i don't like it too.
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Yeah that"s what I thought too but on the other hand, if you don't say anything, then nothing will change. Perhaps it won't change even after saying, but often it does.
You can add me to the telegram group if you want to, pm me the group link and I'll join but I can't promise to constantly be active there throughout the day.
xdvs23 said:
Yeah that"s what I thought too but on the other hand, if you don't say anything, then nothing will change. Perhaps it won't change even after saying, but often it does.
You can add me to the telegram group if you want to, pm me the group link and I'll join but I can't promise to constantly be active there throughout the day.
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tru dat.