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Beta to Final..."a long wait"

its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...

I guess that everyone works with blood sweat and tears on their roms. Just have some patience...
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To be honest, very few number of people use this phone... Its not as popular as S3 or S2 (thats the main drawback of most mid range phones)
And out of all those users, only a very few number of people have knowledge about Android (aka the developers).... And since we're always busy with our lives, jobs, exams, classes, etc. So no one can give complete attention to all this...
Yes, after the JB update - this phone got a boost in a "Development" point of view... I mean we now have more ROMs, themes, Mods, etc... But i believe that all we need are more experienced developers (and users) to help the existing developers and contribute something to this phone's dev support...
As Shaaan said, we are all good at something... So why not form a team and utilize it for better and faster development process for this phone
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droidinsane said:
its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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I would demand from you to learn to develop, and make all that betas to be final. How that sounds? You would do that in the speed of the light.
And please turn on the brain for little time and see that all those beta ROMs are mods of CM, that is in beta stage. And we do not have sources to fix all the bugs fast.
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^ What he said, if you can't wait for it, do it yourself.

Tired of this kind of people who can't contribute something other than demanding. Maybe if you can ''DONATE'' thats the least you can do rather than learning how to develop instead of posting nonsense. Ok? Just a suggestion bro.
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nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently

This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.

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This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.
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so now you will tell me what beta means go mate you have more important work to do...
let this forum be what it should be...dont make it a ground for useless arguements...i had an opinion now dont be a teacher here,,

droidinsane said:
nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently
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How can you even expect CM10.1 to work. It's 4.2 based... damn...
And no one says you can't give your opinion, it's just the way you said it. With your post you insulted everyone trying to work on CM etc because according to YOU the development doesn't go as fast as you want.
And don't say: don't play teacher on me I just have an opinion. Because I AM a damn teacher and you need to be taught some patience...
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LOL to those who can't wait. Buy a new phone, more popular ones. Then enjoy it to your heart content. End of story.
There will be more beta's then there will be rc's before final version. If you can't wait, might as well consider buying other device. Your choice. No argument here

droidinsane said:
its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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Please delete this thread. The pointless character of it is beyond any measure.
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This forum is dead - What is the more popular Sprint GS4 forum?

This forum is dead - What is the more popular Sprint GS4 forum?
EVO3D forum had thousands of threads within the first 3 months. What's going on and where did everyone go?

ehaalandtluk said:
This forum is dead - What is the more popular Sprint GS4 forum?
EVO3D forum had thousands of threads within the first 3 months. What's going on and where did everyone go?
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Brace yourself for sarcastic answers & trolls. With that being said, Google

It will blossom. The phone is still so new. I hope it stays clean. There is alot of great devs that have this phone. That being said tons of great stuff Allready out and upcoming. The best part is that everything we have is very stable.
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This forum isn't dead. The phone has been out for literally just over a month and we already have 4 custom TW ROM's and 7 AOSP based ROM's as well as several kernels available as well.
Plus, as time goes on, more and more devs will get their hands on this phone which will make things even more crazy.
Not trying to be a **** here, but honestly, what do you expect......the phone comes out and suddently there are 30 ROM's out for it?

Sometimes it's a good sign - means folks don't have many problems with it and/or it has a decent stock experience requiring less mods.

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Brace yourself for sarcastic answers & trolls. With that being said, Google
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Thanks for your useless response. If you don't know how Google works, it crawls discussion boards that allow it to make an index. Most of the private forums are not indexed on Google, so there's no way to find it on that search engine..
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It will blossom. The phone is still so new. I hope it stays clean. There is alot of great devs that have this phone. That being said tons of great stuff Allready out and upcoming. The best part is that everything we have is very stable.
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The sprint version is the least developed of all the carriers. All those roms are carryovers from other GS4 hardware to the Sprint platform. There is not even a way to force roam on our phones yet. This is ridiculous. This is the kind of stuff that comes out during the first week of release for most phones.
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This forum isn't dead. The phone has been out for literally just over a month and we already have 4 custom TW ROM's and 7 AOSP based ROM's as well as several kernels available as well.
Plus, as time goes on, more and more devs will get their hands on this phone which will make things even more crazy.
Not trying to be a **** here, but honestly, what do you expect......the phone comes out and suddently there are 30 ROM's out for it?
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Exactly what happened for the last 4 android phones I've owned.

mjs2011 said:
This forum isn't dead. The phone has been out for literally just over a month and we already have 4 custom TW ROM's and 7 AOSP based ROM's as well as several kernels available as well.
Plus, as time goes on, more and more devs will get their hands on this phone which will make things even more crazy.
Not trying to be a **** here, but honestly, what do you expect......the phone comes out and suddently there are 30 ROM's out for it?
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Well said. This forum already blows away some Motorola/HTC phones that have been out for a long time. Be thankful to have a Samsung and sprint. Dev friendly. My first smart phone was the original. Galaxy s captivate on at&t. It had way too many rom/kernels/ports. It was messy and hard to find stuff. People saying some euro Rom ports wiping efs and borking phone- no good. The e4gt and this phone is much better. No worries.
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ehaalandtluk said:
This forum is dead - What is the more popular Sprint GS4 forum?
EVO3D forum had thousands of threads within the first 3 months. What's going on and where did everyone go?
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Honestly I was thinking the same thing, but the phone is only a month old. Just give it time....
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""The sprint version is the least developed of all the carriers. All those roms are carryovers from other GS4 hardware to the Sprint platform. There is not even a way to force roam on our phones yet. This is ridiculous. This is the kind of stuff that comes out during the first week of release for most phones.""
Show some respect. Our Roms are not just ports from vzw ect. Blu kuban is built ground up. On the force roam well the roam control dev Has to fix his application. This rant does nothing and it's disrespectful to the great devs and contributors working on this phone.
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ehaalandtluk said:
Thanks for your useless response. If you don't know how Google works, it crawls discussion boards that allow it to make an index. Most of the private forums are not indexed on Google, so there's no way to find it on that search engine..
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Useless post in a useless thread. I'll give you another taste of my fabulous insight. Any other forum you may find, I would put money down they have the same development (roms, nightlies, mods, recoveries, rooting, debloating, DEVELOPERS & so forth & on & on & on). If you're looking for another Sprint Galaxy S4 forum that's more "hopping & happening", don't you think we would be posting anything & everything we also find, making this forum more "active"?! Here's a concept, show our devs some consideration & be patient. They may act like robots, but they're humans, too :good:

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Exactly what happened for the last 4 android phones I've owned.
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I highly doubt that.
Plus, the stock experience on this phone is pretty fantastic as is, and I've seen at least 2 ROM developers of E4GT ROM's hold off from doing anything and are just enjoying the phone as is.
There's a good chance that a few of your former phones desperately needed some development right off the bat where the anything out for the S4 is pretty much icing on the cake.

the international forum is more popular of course it has always been this way question is answered
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ehaalandtluk said:
Thanks for your useless response. If you don't know how Google works, it crawls discussion boards that allow it to make an index. Most of the private forums are not indexed on Google, so there's no way to find it on that search engine..
The sprint version is the least developed of all the carriers. All those roms are carryovers from other GS4 hardware to the Sprint platform. There is not even a way to force roam on our phones yet. This is ridiculous. This is the kind of stuff that comes out during the first week of release for most phones.
Exactly what happened for the last 4 android phones I've owned.
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Nobody will say it so I will.Take your self righteous ass on somewhere else.who gives you the right.If you don't like it,develop your own mods
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If this really matters to you, why don't you just go to another carrier like AT&T or T-Mobile?

shizkoff777 said:
Nobody will say it so I will.Take your self righteous ass on somewhere else.who gives you the right.If you don't like it,develop your own mods
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Well said. People like him will never appreciate anything.
Oh, and the Evo3d is the most problematic phone ever as an Evo lineup. No wonder that forum jump start so quickly due to problems.
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mjs2011 said:
I highly doubt that.
Plus, the stock experience on this phone is pretty fantastic as is, and I've seen at least 2 ROM developers of E4GT ROM's hold off from doing anything and are just enjoying the phone as is.
There's a good chance that a few of your former phones desperately needed some development right off the bat where the anything out for the S4 is pretty much icing on the cake.
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I'm here still learning this phone. The images, xmls and mount points for install scripts are completely different from the E4GT. Still trying to learn my way around before I release a ROM.
It's one thing to brick my own phone.
Its another thing to brick someone else's because I don't know what I'm doing yet.
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shizkoff777 said:
Nobody will say it so I will.Take your self righteous ass on somewhere else.who gives you the right.If you don't like it,develop your own mods
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I think it wasn't said because it didn't need to be said.
I don't think he said anything against any devs. He was just speaking about lack of devlopement in general. And he is right. That doesn't mean the devs who are putting stuff out aren't good, cause they are.
I see it like this. I don't find as many themed roms as I've seen with some other phones I've had. Even the amount stock based roms that have personal twists to them is infrequent. Mods and things are also on the low side. Not that the quality of the ones we have are low. Just the amount.
I think the developers from Samsung pay attention to what the devs here and elsewhere are putting out and they do a bit of incorporating so the need for some Roms are not needed. The fact that some people bought the One may have sent a few devs over there. Not that the community over there is very big though. Sales are less than half of the S4.
Some new development will be coming with the nexus experience version of the phone so Roms will be on the uptick soon. But I as well think there is a bit of a low turnout for Roms and things this time around. Also as time goes on this is to be expected. As devs figure mods and things out they just incorporate them into other projects without the need for discussion and its not something that is taking up threads everywhere. The devs have grown a lot so to speak and just push things out that work better from the start. So it seems like less is happening sometimes.
Just my take.
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I think there are less here because it is fairly new, and tbh the stock version of it isn't bad at all.

Thanks for that eskomo. I'm not going to reply to those kneejerkers who say "I don't agree and if you don't like it get out rabble rabble rabble"
I have always given proper thanks and respect to all the developers that I have benefited from. However, I am not on trial so I don't have to defend my opinions. Don't tell me where I should or should not post, or what phone/carrier I have your blessing to be on. Thanks, buh bye now.
Also agree on your points of development and customization. For being the biggest/baddest competitor vs the iPhone 5, I see this as a very poor showing of what xda can do with strong hardware. Shame.
eskomo said:
I think it wasn't said because it didn't need to be said.
I don't think he said anything against any devs. He was just speaking about lack of devlopement in general. And he is right. That doesn't mean the devs who are putting stuff out aren't good, cause they are.
I see it like this. I don't find as many themed roms as I've seen with some other phones I've had. Even the amount stock based roms that have personal twists to them is infrequent. Mods and things are also on the low side. Not that the quality of the ones we have are low. Just the amount.
I think the developers from Samsung pay attention to what the devs here and elsewhere are putting out and they do a bit of incorporating so the need for some Roms are not needed. The fact that some people bought the One may have sent a few devs over there. Not that the community over there is very big though. Sales are less than half of the S4.
Some new development will be coming with the nexus experience version of the phone so Roms will be on the uptick soon. But I as well think there is a bit of a low turnout for Roms and things this time around. Also as time goes on this is to be expected. As devs figure mods and things out they just incorporate them into other projects without the need for discussion and its not something that is taking up threads everywhere. The devs have grown a lot so to speak and just push things out that work better from the start. So it seems like less is happening sometimes.
Just my take.
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You don't get it. You seriously don't. People have lives & sorry they aren't working for 24/7 just for you. Get over yourself & gtfo. Do you really think another Sprint S4 forum is going to have more development than this one? Everything we find, we post. If it's out there, it's here. If you aren't happy with how things are going, switch carriers or do more of your own homework on your own time & don't ask for someone else to do it for you. My "useless" post to your useless thread warned you about getting bad hits & trolls & gess what? I was right & you are still here bellyaching.

Custom Development for M7spr - Discussion, testing and help

This is a discussion thread for all things custom; Building steps and tips, problem solving and issue discussion. All questions and/or comments are welcome. Be aware, although I build and customize ROMs, I am not a professional developer and cannot promise a solution for your problem. But, hopefully, we can work together to come up with practical solutions for any problems here at m7spr.

So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.

Felnarion said:
So..The things you were shut down on. Were they CM related, or Sense stuff?
Did they involve you working solo, or with a team? Give more details, get the word out.
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I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....

BMP7777 said:
I really am leery of pointing fingers at specific people because I'm new here and don't want to make a name for myself as a whiner. But, basically it is both. The custom ROMs I am working on have all been built before by me on other devices, so that's not the issue. I have inquired about possibly collaborating with other devs on some Sense related stuff and was looking into why there was no official or unofficial release of the current CM10.2. The sense stuff really isn't my bag as much, but i was/am interested. Others are working on the CM, but with no official release in play, no one wants to put theirs out. I have built it successfully, but have no intention of trying to lay it out there when other devs have been working on it before I got here. My thing is this: when I got tired of waiting for devs to come up with new things, I was told to put up or shut up. It was good advice; I have no coding experience specifically, but I like to learn and have been successful at not only compiling and maintaining custom builds, but also starting 'Learn to do it yourself' threads in two different device forums. I like to learn and compile and share. That's it. I don't need (or want) attention or grateful fans or any of that crap. All I want to do is open the doors for more builds and more users getting off their asses and building for themselves. It seems like a win-win to me, but I feel resistance and it is disappointing. I will get off my soapbox now
I typically touch base with any dev who is the creator/maintainer of any ROM I am interested in pursuing. My experience has been more of a quick 'try it out and see what you get' response or 'it can't be done'. This is after I have asked for not only a blessing, but for relevant information and possibly assistance. Maybe I am just hitting up devs who are already frustrated and don't want someone like me asking a bunch of questions, I don't know....
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you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom

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you can start by helping to get things working in sense 4.2.2 beta rom
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I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool

BMP7777 said:
I looked your thread up and I think we'd get along great. Anybody who says 'if you don't like me, GOOD' is someone I wanna hang with. It's also funny you should mention helping with that sense version because that's exactly what I was trying to do. Sense aint even my bag, but I was going to look into it from the SVD side to see what I could learn. Maybe I just rubbed that guy the wrong way or something. Regardless, I can't promise how much help I will actually be, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Tell me what you need and the right places to look and I'll do whatever I can. Be cool
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do you have google hangout?

I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?

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I think one issue is that there is an update to 4.3 looking for the Sprint One. This will undoubtely contain new radios and firmware that will help our phones run on 4.3+. Since this is a know update, many devs have decided to forego work on the the current 4.1.2 Sense ROMs. Some are working on the 4.2.2 Sense ROM, but with no leak, or Sprint version it is much harder work. Also, there is only source for up to 1.29. The source from the 1.31 update is not available and it has caused issues with ROMs based on that update.
Personally I don't get your complaint though. There is a lot of development and a wide selection of ROMs available from Stock Android 4.1 to 4.3 to Stock Sense, to heavily themed Sense ROMs. What exactly is not available that you want?
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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.

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This really wasn't meant to be some complaint thread with a bunch of whining; just the opposite, really. I just wanted feedback on how I am perceiving things around here. I'm cool with being told I have it wrong; was hoping for it actually. And you pointed out exactly what I mean in part. Sense this and stock that is the rule of the day here. That's ok. Everyone is allowed to like whatever they want and if sense and stock are the most wanted builds then so be it. But, I am a self-proclaimed customization junkie, for better or for worse. Personally, I like more fully custom ROM choices and have been beating my head against the wall trying to get some Beanstalk love here but without success to this point. BS is already set in 4.3 and matched with CMs 10.2 releases, so I'm stumped. If you have knowledge, I would be happy to show you some of my errors. I do think you make a great point about the whole place being in flux due to the impending 4.3 release. Like I said before, I just want to open up some development doors and get more interest in development in general. Maybe I have hit up the wrong devs or caught them at bad times. It happens.
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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.

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Part of the issue might be that users are afraid of using Cm as it has a nasty habit of bricking phones that no one of notoriety has looked into, acknowledged, or found a solution to.
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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?

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I haven't really been looking at it after my first run (I personally like Sense a lot, and AOSP didn't have a good way of dealing with the limited hardware options for me), but wasn't the brick-spree killed a while back?
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A couple of people developed a "consensus" that it had been fixed. then 2 more people bricked their phones. ALLEGEDLY the CPU has a tendency to over clock itself and lock at 1.7 Ghz
This is all fine and dandy yet no one can figure out why or how to stop it.

I thought so too
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I thought so too
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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.

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Like I said no one ever figured out why or how to stop it. A consensus was reached but then more people bricked. No developers could be bothered to take time out of their day to look into it though.
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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to

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I saw one guy who was addressing it and taking names and such, but then I guess it just faded away. Do you know of ongoing issues like this? Can all of the bricks be undoubtedly proven to be from no other cause? I think that would be the defining characteristic of lack of support; difficulty in proving cause. My build of CM10.2 runs fine as long as I don't try to change the font with Font Installer. And I am reasonably certain that it isn't from CM all by itself. I have the same issue with Illusion ROM 4.2.2. Anybody know why we can't change the font? My thread; I can change topic if I want to
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It is the only common factor in permanent bricks. Phone gets hot, phone wont charge. All other "bricks" are user induced because people did not understand what S-Off meant, what wiping in TWRP means, what GSM means etc etc.

So how many confirmed permanent bricks and when was the last? Has anyone proven a cause? Contacted HTC or CM or Sprint? If there were twenty cases with only 5 confirmed, then it isn't that big from a larger standpoint. See what I mean? That would explain what you see as a lack of support? Has this happened to you?

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I thought so too
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Check your hangouts.

BMP7777 said:
Why does there seem to be very little development going on here and why is the development that is taking place so closely guarded? I thought everyone wanted more choices and new options..... I see that there is current and ongoing 10.2 development (hell, I've even built it), but no one wants to release it. I'm hearing that the last guy who did that got banned. So, if everyone is waiting for OFFICIAL builds to be released first, why are there none being officially worked on? Two times in the last three weeks I have inquired about wanting to work on some new development and have either been told straight out not to release or been effectively threatened with reporting before I have even begun an attempt. I don't know if maybe there has been a rash of jerks who are trying to claim ownership of work that does not belong to them or what, but I've never seen as much negativity about new builds in any thread I have been a part of. I want to claim ownership of nothing; I only want to open doors. I guess I'll just work on things for my own use and leave this forum to the guys currently running it. HMPH :angel:
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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.

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You could build us a GSM version ROM that works on the sprint HTC One. You'd be a hero if you could do that. We've already unlocked our phones and are able to connect to the ATT / TMO but only manually. When the signal is lost it seems to still be looking to auto connect to sprint...I would think this should be a simple setting software but I know nothing about phone ROMs.
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Man, if I could do that I'd be a GOD. :angel:

I love lamp
Haha Naw but I see your point but I love and appreciate every devolepers effort here on this forum ..there not a a lot but a bunch of smart and quietly brilliant devs here ...I'm comfortable but the more the merrier
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[Conspiracy] Xposed for Lollipop

Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
REVISION: This edit was added on 2.13.14
The above statement was purely a joke when Xposed for LP was merely a dream. To clarify, as of now there is no ETA for Xposed. Ever. Don't ask. Stop. Don't think of it. If you ask, you shall be banned as of the words of the moderator.
I know it may be hard to read sometimes, so I started a new paragraph. If you are confused, look up. ETAs don't exist on this developer website. Thank you.
Xposed is IN THE WORKS and no, there is no beta version. If you beg to differ, post a comment. Don't flame me or anybody.
=D have a WONDERFUL, hate free day.

The full comment posted at https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/18 is:
Thanks guys. Actually, there is no need to worry about alternative approaches. It's not easy to "hack" ART in a similar way as Dalvik, but it's generally working.
What most people forget:
a) ART isn't the only new thing in Lollipop. SELinux requires a lot of extra code and even more thoughts to work around the restrictions. And 64 bit breaks the assumption that everything starts in a single process, as there are two Zygote processes now. I think it's important to consider this right from the start.
b) The actual (net) time required to write code is far away from the time that passes. It's not like I work on Xposed every evening. There are weeks when I don't look at the code at all. Yes, I do have other things in my life, and some have a higher priority. So even if something would take just a few evenings to code, it might take me a couple of weeks to actually do it. And once I publish something, you probably wouldn't like it if I took off for a few weeks.
If it was just about coding, pushing the source could be helpful. But that works best if there's already a clear concept of what is needed and an idea how this can be split up into work packages. Often it takes hours to come up with a concept that can be coded in 20 lines. Remember how many people are using Xposed meanwhile. We don't want to have some quick code that works by accident, so it's vital to think everything through carefully, and that takes time.
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.

pyler said:
No new "work in progress" sources = no help from other contributors. That's it.
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You can probably count the people who really understand Xposed and how it works at one hand (and you'll basically have to start from scratch for lollipop).
It's not like there were hundreds of contributors in the past, so what you're trying to say here is invalid.
Yes, there would probably be some people who could help out, but keep in mind that every minute rovo is helping others to better understand what's going on isn't available for him to do some actual development (which includes research and drafting ideas).
I'm sure that any top tier dev who feels confident to actually bring xposed for lollipop forward can contact rovo anytime and get his wip code, but so far no one has spoken out.
The sad truth is that 95% of the xda users are people without any real technical knowledge - and the only thing they do is to offer to "test" something to gain access to something before it's release.
Unfortunately those testers are rarely ever needed, at least not within the core development phase, here it takes way more time to explain people what is needed than to just test it yourself.
When you're rolling something out to production and want to make sure that the last little bugs within different usage cases and configurations are squashed, sure you'll need testers, but not before.
But for now that's not the case, so it might be better to keep the unhelpful comments to oneself

KevinDixson said:
Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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Liar
So yeah. It will take more time, I still don't give any ETA, but I'm quite confident that we'll have something nice some day.
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If you can't offer something better then be patient.

Primokorn said:
Liar
If you can't offer something better then be patient.
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Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
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(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.

KevinDixson said:
Just like the op stated.... Its a JOKE
He had 666 Followers and I thought it was funny and would lighten up a few peoples stress filled days. The only reason I saw this was because I was going through his posts and READING all of them to get an update as to where we stand.
I found it for you ^ since sometimes I know its REALLY hard to understand the concept of a joke.
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Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel

Primokorn said:
Yep sorry I misread your post. I feel a little bit stressed with all this story lol
Anyways, 666 is the patience and Rovo the angel
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Hahaha no worries bro just keepin the haters out of this thread :bruh:

just for waiting...

Hope xposed will be ported to lollipop eventually!!!

Hi guys! Yeah, I'm part of those 95% (I'm a lawyer), but I'm very grateful to rovo for his work. I have Nexus 5, but I'm still on Android 4.4.4 because of Xposed, and I'm not going to update to 5.0 until the new version of Xposed is done. You can see how important it is for me. @rovo89, I'm pretty sure that many people would pay you to complete your work. I understand that you have higher priorities and you are doing all of this for fun, but have you thought that you have almost 3 millions of downloads? If you create your team of software engineers and sell Xposed at 2$ (2€), you work on it every day for several months, and we assume that most of the current users buy your product, you will have enough money to pay your team and dedicate all of your time at what you want. It's just a suggestion of one of these 3 millions of users, that would pay more than 2$ and appreciate your work so much! Best regards from Spain!

rovo has said on multiple occasions that he won't take money for working on Xposed as he does not want it to become a job where he feels obligated to work on it full time.
He's working on it already. Offers of monetary gain won't make that work go any faster. Everyone will just have to be patient.
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We don't know if he is really doing on it (I hope yes but..) since we have no proofs (only claims) and no documentable code progress since August 2014. Plus, rovo89 was active here last year till August or so. Then he left.
If there are people who want work on it and have enough skills to port it, they should fork it and not wait. I saw some guys on github who want to work on ART port.

He flat out stated he would not post progress publicly either on GitHub or here and to wait until he had something worth publishing (that real contributors could help with) without bothering him. Comments on issues on GitHub do show he is/was working on it.
The real problem is that people are impatient and feel entitled to updates on progress, even though rovo explicitly stated that he wouldn't be doing that.
As for others *wanting* to work on it; nobody is stopping them forking the project and doing so. If they get it working then that would be fantastic and I'm sure everyone including rovo would be happy and grateful. That's the great thing about open source.
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1. Work hard to create something really, really useful.
2. Make it (and all the resources for re-creating it) available for free.
3. Millions of people use it.
4. Decide not to work so hard on it.
5. Get hounded day in and day out for months by thousands of people.
This is a classic example of "No good deed goes unpunished".
Rovo is a saint. In his shoes, I would have told all of the "hounders" to f**k off a long time ago.
In other words, people, learn how to be grateful, get off of Rovo's case, and move on.
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This is sad, I would donate to help the dev, especially since all this is free

i'm a user and for me is normally this long time...the system of cache is completaly changed....and see it immediately in the booting process and the loading apps process.
Be patient!

Go On Rovo u can do that =)

I hope you are wrong
KevinDixson said:
Well guys, looks like Xposed for 5.0 won't ever happen.
(To all you downers out there, its called a joke. Laugh about it. Next thread.)
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It is already 2015 and there is still no support for lollipop. It was working fine with jelly bean. I just installed a custom lollipop rom and I wanted to user xposed with greenify. It seems I have to wait and your saying will just be a conspiracy. You should really stop creating this kind of threads. Value people's creativity. That fact that, there is a delay doors not mean it will not be made. If for anything at all, give them some morale

Lollipop is a completely new system. The difference between KitKat and Lollipop is almost the same as between Windows 95 and Windows XP, if not larger... Lollipop looks like ordinary Android, acts like it, but it is NOT it...

Where are all the ROMS?

The official MM ROMS has been out for a few days now and no new ROMS. What's going on?

khader2 said:
The official MM ROMS has been out for a few days now and no new ROMS. What's going on?
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Well. Do a little reading, learn how to do it, and I'm sure that you can put one out in a few days. :laugh:
An Impatient man is the gravediggers friend"

Pinan said:
Well. Do a little reading, learn how to do it, and I'm sure that you can put one out in a few days. :laugh:
An Impatient man is the gravediggers friend"
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I wish there were more guides and how to's or I would be. I can never find anything that seems up to date

I hear the op's frustration - I feel it too and yes patience is required. We don't have a large amount of Dev's available and they have lives. This is all done for free. If you prefer more active development, I'd suggest a Nexus device next round which is the route I may take due to locked bootloaders and such

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I hear the op's frustration - I feel it too and yes patience is required. We don't have a large amount of Dev's available and they have lives. This is all done for free. If you prefer more active development, I'd suggest a Nexus device next round which is the route I may take due to locked bootloaders and such
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Agreed!
Were lucky to have the devs we have at all, we gotta remember as badass as our phone still is... it's already a 2 year old phone and devs among other people switch phones all the time.
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Devs switching phones is a big problem with older devices for sure. I'm not sure how many devs stuck it out waiting for the official MM to drop honestly.
I myself was all psyched for the note 7 since my note 4 is almost paid for now, but with a locked bootloader and no root I may to look elsewhere for my next device.

Check the section again and Overdrive just posted stock rom with mods available for it. And it's not that easy to start making roms when you get a software.
Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-maximum-ovrdrive-6-0-1-mm-beta-4-13-t3358326

Lol i read and research everything for a couple days before even flashing stock. I would hate to make a mistake and turn my phone into a frisbee... or worse yet... UNROOTABLE:silly:

khader2 said:
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Unless that was some bone dry sarcasm, you answered your own question (bold text in your quote). For the sake of clarification, the talented, generous devs who have immeasurably improved our Note 4 experience owe you nothing. You've paid money, likely a great deal of it, to Samsung/T-mobile and it took them 10 months to deliver an update. What have you contributed to the developers who use their own free time to work extremely hard and freely share the fruits of their labor (which puts the aforementioned profit-driven entities to shame) that entitles you to expect a custom fine-tuned ROM within "a few days"?
If you want to run MM the stock ROM is finally ready and waiting. You can even do so with root access and customize it to the extent of your ability... again thanks to the most valuable members of this community who receive little if anything more than our appreciation and respect in return.
There will be custom TW MM ROMs when and if developers are ready to take time out of their busy lives to create and release them. Whenever that happens to be, the members who participate and contribute what they can to this community will be extremely appreciative. Thankfully the group here is a friendly and helpful bunch. This subforum would be a ghost town if more shared the entitled attitude in this insulting joke of a topic. Waiting 10 months after release for a $$ "flagship" to be updated to the current OS by a company who wants you to continue paying them money is something to be upset about. Waiting... however long for a generous developer to rip that update apart and fine-tune it into something that they're willing to share with a (mostly...) supportive community is not.

I feel people took the OP a little too serious. I've been camping the forums for custom MM Roms since MM was released. Lucky the Note 4 is still popular and Samsung locking devices and making crappy changes has made a lot of Note 4 users not upgrade.

Hawkhell said:
I feel people took the OP a little too serious. I've been camping the forums for custom MM Roms since MM was released. Lucky the Note 4 is still popular and Samsung locking devices and making crappy changes has made a lot of Note 4 users not upgrade.
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Perhaps because you and the OP are still unfamiliar with the culture here on xda and the hard work and complete selflessness exhibited by developers in practically donating hours upon hours of their time.
To try and catch you up: you don't ask for eta's, you don't display any form of entitlement, and you don't complain development (Basically just be respectful). Camp forums all you want but don't waste forum space unless you have a legitimate question, comment, or contribution.
Furthermore, anyone that eager for development should never buy anything other than nexus. And even in nexus forum, the above guidelines should still be followed.

waiting

they are all in the official note 4 snapdragon thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev
if the data doesnt work u just apply the datafix http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/marshmallow-6-0-1-ports-data-fixes-t3379978
so pretty much find rom, download rom, apply datafix (if needed), enjoy!
NOTE/BEWARE******just dont flash any bootloaders/modems/recoveries from there.
happy flashing!

XeoNoX said:
they are all in the official note 4 snapdragon thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev
if the data doesnt work u just apply the datafix http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/marshmallow-6-0-1-ports-data-fixes-t3379978
so pretty much find rom, download rom, apply datafix (if needed), enjoy!
NOTE/BEWARE******just dont flash any bootloaders/modems/recoveries from there.
happy flashing!
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Are we able to run international kernels?
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JDM Civic EG8 said:
Are we able to run international kernels?
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most of them will say works with 910t specifically, but in my testing if found that over 90% of the N910F
ROMS works on the 910T and if they dont work they just need the data fix patch ......
as far as kernels just make sure that the kernel is 910f compatible and match the android version correcttly
EXAMPLE:
v5.1.1 with v5.1.1
v6.0 with v6.0
v6.0.1 with v6.0.1
NOT v6.0 with v6.0.1 (this may or may not work, if it does't youll have to reflash the rom or odin back to stock)