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Hima resetting (Powering off)

Hi guys!
I just wanna know, i have a Hima about 2 years old............. Sometimes at any given time, it just dies, and restart again, there is no pattern to this. (My Ramdisk is then wiped, my time defaults back to 12:00, but the rest of the data stays on the phone<Sms'es, emails programs> is still there)
I have flashed another ROM but still get this timeously.
Is this the battery? Or something else?
I dont wanna spend bucks on a battery and then the same problem occurs.
i did check the pins etc, everything is in great order!
Thanks for the help guys!

So we are talking a hard reset obviously, not a soft reset.
My Hima has done that on two occasions that I can remember, where it has been fully charged and all of a sudden just reset or not been able to turn on until I stick it back in its cradle. I have heard it happening to other people too with the same phone. One friend found that the battery was shorting out on metal somewhere (not sure where). Another found that it only seemed to do it on very hot days. I guess somehow the shape of the case changes slightly in the heat and doesn't press the battery firmly against the connector.
Other than that, I am not really sure. There may be a rouge setting that constantly drains the battery. How often does this happen?

Jadel said:
So we are talking a hard reset obviously, not a soft reset.
My Hima has done that on two occasions that I can remember, where it has been fully charged and all of a sudden just reset or not been able to turn on until I stick it back in its cradle. I have heard it happening to other people too with the same phone. One friend found that the battery was shorting out on metal somewhere (not sure where). Another found that it only seemed to do it on very hot days. I guess somehow the shape of the case changes slightly in the heat and doesn't press the battery firmly against the connector.
Other than that, I am not really sure. There may be a rouge setting that constantly drains the battery. How often does this happen?
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Its very random........It happen about 2 times a week or so.......

i got the same problem since about half a year with my hima.
it occurs randomly, sometimes every 30 secs, sometimes every 1-2 weeks.
sometimes the clock is changed to 12:00 and the date to 01.09.2003, sometimes not.
sometimes putting it in the craddle works, sometimes not (shows red light, as if it has no battery and screen stays blank)
this also damages data on the sd card from time to time (i think, this occurs, when its currently using the sd card while the reset starts)

i can reproduce the same behaviour
by removing the back panel and tabbing the batt
in a special place i say it's hardware

I too had this problem..your backup battery is dead..you will have to replace it

ather90 said:
I too had this problem..your backup battery is dead..you will have to replace it
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Thanks guys! New battery it is!
Cheers

what kind of batter is the backup batter? (how many volt)

it is a special kind of lithiu, cell (just as in you pc but a little different)
i ve tried replacing my self but cant

ather90 said:
it is a special kind of lithiu, cell (just as in you pc but a little different)
i ve tried replacing my self but cant
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Hey A90!
Question: Is the backup battery part of the battery, or is it build into the Hima?
Cause i see mine sometimes shows:
Main battery: 98% etc
Backup:50%
A few hours after the backup battery shows 100% again
Strange, my phone did not yet blackout this week!
later

heya rac..the backup battery is charged when u charge your Main battery..and its soldiered into the PCB (requires skills to open up the hima)

ather90 said:
heya rac..the backup battery is charged when u charge your Main battery..and its soldiered into the PCB (requires skills to open up the hima)
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hey A90! Thanks alot. I wont open the device.....hehhehe!
Im not technical at all!

Reboots after I remove the batter

What the heck is going on?
I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with the ROM, because it did this with the factory ROM, Manila 2d and now WM6.5.
I turned the phone off, unplugged it, removed the battery. I put the battery back in, replace the cover and press the power button. Nothing happens. I plug the phone back in to the wall charger and put power, it turns on....for about 3 seconds then reboots and it would seem that it will do this for as long as I let it go. If I unplug the phone while this is going on, it will die.
The last time this happened, it took it about a day and a half to sort itself out. It almost seems like its a battery issue.
Any thoughts or ideas?

UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.

zz_3.14_zz said:
UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.
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mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks

kaiser won't turn on
LuXx said:
mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks
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tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?

I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
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tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?
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Teej53214 said:
I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
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Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.

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LuXx said:
Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.
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no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks

LuXx said:
no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks
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tried bootloader and installed official att rom and never shut off. when it was finished with install same issues appeared. help

For anyone facing this issue I would not recommend wasting money on a new battery as this issue has been around with few users since the Kaiser "Tilt" first came out and I've never seen ANY reports that a new battery fixes this. People have bought new batteries, fully charged their battery from a docking station, tried their friends fully charged battery all with the same result. I had this power down issue a Looong time ago my first week in with the Kaiser and managed a fix and am using the same battery now. Although it seems the battery is not being fully charged it's important to leave it charging until you'd assume it's fully charged and get into bootloader mode and flash an official htc Tytn 2 rom. It should flash completely, and the fact that it does not die immediately as on normal boot indicates it is not the battery but the rom. It did take me the whole afternoon of Flashing, recharging and repeating before it finally kicked in. Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.

kaalgoosy said:
Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.
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Yup, that is what I had to today (I hard reset, actually), with barely enough battery life to do this.
Then the bloody unit came up and was charging - amazing, really!
(Was using the official HTC 6.1 upgraded WindowsMobile OS)

here is my 2 cents....
I owned five Tilts, replaced four of them with warranty issues ... so i have faced this dilemma on at least two of them.
First see if the USB tongue is loose. To do this try to gently tap it with the stylus. If the tongue inside the USB port is loose then you will be facing rebooting and other issues and troubles in the future. The USB tongue gets used and jerked every time you connect your device to your PC or wired headset. If you are still under warranty and the USB connector tongue is loose I recommend returning the phone ( if you still can) and getting a replacement. There is no easy fix for a loose USB connection tongue as i have taken one apart and it is very difficult to repair or replace and very easy to mess it up further.
So, my advice to all Kaiser owners... be careful when plugging and unplugging your phones through the USB. Do it gently as the connectors are very fragile.
For those that have the above issues, I recommend using a separate battery charger tray, avoid plugging the USB as much as you can, and if you must, then administer extra care. The rebooting will stop if you plug the USB cable to the device and move it up and down a hair then holding steady. And most likely you will not get a full charge or even a partial charge. The biggest culprit to this problem is car chargers, and second, is inserting the stylus by mistake (when it is dark and hard to see) in the USB port instead of the Reset hole by accident.

[Q] Drunk G1 turns itself off

Hi fellas, long time no see!
So, first of all, yes, I've used the search, but what I've found is threads about wet phones, mine I believe is already dry.
Situation: I'm in the club, glass of absolut and redbull in my hand, phone in my jeans pocket, extra glass of absolut w/redbull on the bar next to me. Fat drunk aproaches the bar and tips my glass with his elbow, all my drink spilled over my clothes. After a brief discussion I realized the guy was too drunk and was a worthless douche so I let it go. I reach for my phone and realize my pocket is soaked wet, when I take it out, phone is out, red light dim. So I turn it off, take it apart and forget about it til the next day. Next day, it began to turn on, but shut itslef off after a few secs, so I take it apart again (that is back cover, battery, SIM and sd, I dont have the screwdrivers to go further), cleaned what I could with alcohol, let it vent in front of a fan for a few hours, then in a bowl of rice for 2 days, no good.
So I got an extra phone and let it sit for more than a month. The other day I decided to give it another try and voila! it worked, had to be dry by now! used it for a day, left it charging, when I came back, it was off again, unresponsive. I have an extra battery, so I got one of those universal battery chargers, because I though the problem could be the phone not charging the battery. It was (even when the light turns on red and it says charging and all). So, first weird thing, light turns on red, screen says charging, but USB wont wont actually charge the battery if it is somewhere below.. 70% maybe, it does charge if it is lets say about 80% or above.
I used it like this for a week or so, and now, when I turn it on, after the bootscreen and the initial loop, the phone now powers itself off (with the text "turning off" -or whatever it says- and vibrating and all), even with the battery full. Tried with both batteries full, plugged in the usb (the light is green when full, and will even charge), erased battery stats (recovery works fine) but the damn thing wont load android properly!
Any ideas what might be causing this? it should be dry by now (its been like 2 months already and I let it vent and used the rice method), it doesnt smell funny (you know, like burnt, like when sth short circuits).

btw, also tried flashing the ROM again (i always have a couple in the sd just in case) and didn't work neither, does exactly the same.
i know it is a bit long to read but i wanted to give you the most insight i could. i know that it works! it did a couple days ago, but something got screwed with the startup and i dont know what it is!

i see that u tried flashing the ROM again, but just to be sure u did do a super wipe correct?
this is very strange though, and yeah it should be dried by now.

Thanks for the reply, and yes, I did! I'm sure that is not the problem :/

How to unbrick a "dead" Milestone.

After an unfortunate rooting session with my Motorola Milestone, the phone now returns into an "dead" mode. It refuses to start at all. I tried charging it and see if it starts by itself, but it doesn't budge and the little while led doesn't lit. The only time when it lit is when I connect it to the PC. I tried putting in it a new battery, taking out the SD card and SIM, but to no avail. I remember seeing a video where a guy used a dissected USB cable to spark the phone into turning on again, so I take it I'll have to use a "hardware approach"? Please help.

I tried following this guide, though without success. The phone still has that white LED lit when it's connected to the PC.

After a reply on this thread I also made, it might be possible that the battery is charged, but the phone refuses to boot at all. Is there any way to unbrick the phone in this state?

Do you think your device is really BRICKED?
If so, you can try to flash your original sbf file into your phone. Guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696845
If you are using a Linux, google for "sbf_flash".

I agree with my front floor..ermm, u dont need to worry about its 'dead'. just flash original sbf can rescure your phone.

I had the same problem too, but good news is I tried to revive my phone successfully recently, btw your phone is not 'dead', it's just staying in limbo state, the solution is to pull out the battery and don't connect to any usb, don't try to power it up, it must be completely out of power wait about 12 hours, and then try to power your phone, I think there is some capacitors in the phone which retain the phone state, to make it out of power will wipe out it's state, good luck

algopem said:
I had the same problem too, but good news is I tried to revive my phone successfully recently, btw your phone is not 'dead', it's just staying in limbo state, the solution is to pull out the battery and don't connect to any usb, don't try to power it up, it must be completely out of power wait about 12 hours, and then try to power your phone, I think there is some capacitors in the phone which retain the phone state, to make it out of power will wipe out it's state, good luck
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"My phone is in limbo state... "
That's a pretty cool statement.
From technical view, it might have happened that something caused a kind of deadloop when reading scratchpad SRAM inside OMAP processor.
This SRAM, as well as the internal RTC is powered by a small battery soldered on the mainboard, while the phone is shut down and the battery is taken out.
What you did was, to wait untill this battery became uncharged.
All SRAM and RTC setting as well then gets erased.
Afterwards the CPU will start up with empty scratch SRAM, might be called a "real" cold boot
Normally the phone should not behave like this. Even if SRAM is not valid the phone should boot up...
...but anyway as you observed it like this, it might happen.
@andoruB:
Apart from that, the Milestone is hard to brick in general.
Might happen though, if you do evil things while flashing new firmware.
Especially while flashing bootloaders...
If you got some more information about the things you did, would be helpful!
Good luck anyway!
scholbert

andoruB said:
After an unfortunate rooting session with my Motorola Milestone, the phone now returns into an "dead" mode. It refuses to start at all. I tried charging it and see if it starts by itself, but it doesn't budge and the little while led doesn't lit. The only time when it lit is when I connect it to the PC. I tried putting in it a new battery, taking out the SD card and SIM, but to no avail. I remember seeing a video where a guy used a dissected USB cable to spark the phone into turning on again, so I take it I'll have to use a "hardware approach"? Please help.
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how did u root it? can u give a more detailed description? and hows ur phone? sometimes, the milestone would just shut off and wont come up if the battery is gone. Try charging it for maybe 2-3 hours, untouched, and see what happens.

Have this exact problem. Was doing a nandroid recover when the phone got stuck. Pulled the battery out. Placed it back in, pressed the power button. Nothing.
Led lights up only when connected to the computer's USB. Battery was charged before Nandroid recover. Used nandroid a lot of times but for some reason, my stone stopped playing nice.
I just removed the battery. Hoping this works. Can someone please post if you got this same issue resolved? I like this phone no matter how slow it goes sometimes. Thanks!

I completely forgot about this thread, sorry guys!
I don't remember exactly what happened, it's been so long... but I do remember I left the phone "inactive" (it's not like i had much of a choice! XD ) for 1 or 2 months, with the battery out. After I got hold of a wall charger, I plugged in the battery, after I plugged in the charger, and what do you know? It worked! It started charging (was 60% charged, fully charged, I unplugged it, but after putting it to charge again just to make sure it was fully loaded before I would flash a new ROM, it was charged up to about 80%, weirdly, so I guess it was a weird battery problem)
I do remember I didn't do anything to it, so I'm not sure what to tell you guys to do, except leave out the battery for a month or so ^^;

Help! Battery drained, phone won't turn on, battery charging icon flashes on and off?

My phone had been working perfectly fine, as well as charging perfectly fine. Recently, I accidentally let it drop to 0%, which I don't usually do. I went to plug it into the same wall outlet as always, but instead of the usual charge process, the battery icon with the lightning bolt in the middle simply flashes on the screen and then turns off, which happens over and over again.
It should be noted as well that about 3 weeks ago my phone get fairly wet. After that incident, I turned it off till it dried, powered it up, and everything appeared to be totally ok.
Other facts:
-I can safely get into the recovery menu (power + vol down), which is stable, but any menu selections result in the Motorola splash screen for a quick second and then the phone powering down.
-The computer will recognize the connection to the phone.
Attempts to resolve:
-New cable, new usb hub, new wall outlet
-Trickle charge from the computer (same flashing)
-Phone in rice to remove moisture
-Toothbrush cleaning of Micro-usb port (suggestion from another thread)
I'm pulling my hair out, and I am considering prying off the back and replacing the battery. I have searched other threads, but have seen various solutions none of which worked for me. If anybody has any idea how I can fix this please help!!! Thanks in advance.

DroidGuy321 said:
My phone had been working perfectly fine, as well as charging perfectly fine. Recently, I accidentally let it drop to 0%, which I don't usually do. I went to plug it into the same wall outlet as always, but instead of the usual charge process, the battery icon with the lightning bolt in the middle simply flashes on the screen and then turns off, which happens over and over again.
It should be noted as well that about 3 weeks ago my phone get fairly wet. After that incident, I turned it off till it dried, powered it up, and everything appeared to be totally ok.
Other facts:
-I can safely get into the recovery menu (power + vol down), which is stable, but any menu selections result in the Motorola splash screen for a quick second and then the phone powering down.
-The computer will recognize the connection to the phone.
Attempts to resolve:
-New cable, new usb hub, new wall outlet
-Trickle charge from the computer (same flashing)
-Phone in rice to remove moisture
-Toothbrush cleaning of Micro-usb port (suggestion from another thread)
I'm pulling my hair out, and I am considering prying off the back and replacing the battery. I have searched other threads, but have seen various solutions none of which worked for me. If anybody has any idea how I can fix this please help!!! Thanks in advance.
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Either there is something wrong with your battery, or there is something wrong with the USB port. If the USB port is the problem, you can use wireless charging instead. I'm a fan of this one, personally: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S7IBDGW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
Also, are you unlocked? If so, what battery percentage does TWRP say?

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Either there is something wrong with your battery, or there is something wrong with the USB port. If the USB port is the problem, you can use wireless charging instead. I'm a fan of this one, personally:
Also, are you unlocked? If so, what battery percentage does TWRP say?
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Thanks for the quick reply. It does seem like a battery problem, however it is just so coincidental that it stopped working after I let the battery drain to 0%, when only hours previously it was in use and charging without any issue at all.
Also, if there was a problem with the micro-usb port, I would think that a computer wouldnt be able to read the phone, but when I plug it in it is recognized as an ADB device.
I have another turbo with a cracked screen, I'm thinking about dissecting both and putting that battery in this phone as a replacement.
And unfortunately I am not unlocked :/.

Update
Well, after some further experimentation, I've gotten it working again. The solution was to charge it for like 5 hours, then let it sit off charge for an hour, and then it would boot... bizarre combination of actions. It has since dies twice and I've had to use this method.
It is working for now if I don't let the battery drop below like 15%. Seems more like a software or hardware issue to me, and i'm still trying to resolve it, so if anybody has any suggestions please let me know.
Also, what is the best way to re-calibrate the battery, maybe that could help?

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It is working for now if I don't let the battery drop below like 15%. Seems more like a software or hardware issue to me, and i'm still trying to resolve it, so if anybody has any suggestions please let me know.
Also, what is the best way to re-calibrate the battery, maybe that could help?
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If you can't let the battery go below a certain percentage, it might be an early sign of failure. The voltage might drop suddenly and unexpectedly towards the end of discharge, prompting the phone to emergency-shutdown.
As for calibrating the battery...it depends on who you ask. I would say that running it to shutdown (even if shutdown is "15%") and then charging it to 100% should do it, since that gives the controller a full set of data with which to extrapolate a discharge curve. Clear your cache in recovery, so hopefully the OS will pick up on this to accurately track the battery's actual state.
Get Kernel Adiutor or something similar to check your battery's health, too. If there's something obviously badly wrong, it should report something other than "Good".

If you note when your battery dies abruptly and you immediately reboot the back light is very poor. Almost flickering.
I think this is a battery issue of not being able to feed enough amperage.
...however. My phone was doing this and after a full clean reflash it has stopped. I question if this is because I am running less apps now. Or if perhaps somehow the battery managed to lose its memory. (Li ion is an odd duck..)

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If you note when your battery dies abruptly and you immediately reboot the back light is very poor. Almost flickering.
I think this is a battery issue of not being able to feed enough amperage.
...however. My phone was doing this and after a full clean reflash it has stopped. I question if this is because I am running less apps now. Or if perhaps somehow the battery managed to lose its memory. (Li ion is an odd duck..)
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If you can't let the battery go below a certain percentage, it might be an early sign of failure. The voltage might drop suddenly and unexpectedly towards the end of discharge, prompting the phone to emergency-shutdown.
As for calibrating the battery...it depends on who you ask. I would say that running it to shutdown (even if shutdown is "15%") and then charging it to 100% should do it, since that gives the controller a full set of data with which to extrapolate a discharge curve. Clear your cache in recovery, so hopefully the OS will pick up on this to accurately track the battery's actual state.
Get Kernel Adiutor or something similar to check your battery's health, too. If there's something obviously badly wrong, it should report something other than "Good".
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Thanks for the pointers. So strange, first it died at 40%, then 30% then 15%. Now, it is still dying early but I am no longer facing the issue I originally had, it will show normal charging when off, and boots up right away. Sure hope its not some ticking battery time bomb, its still a relatively new refurb.
I attempted the charge calibration so we shall see if it helps. I also did a factory reset for the hell of it, since I am on stock and can't reflash. Perhaps I'm in the clear, that would be awesome. Still no idea what the issue was in the first place though, which will annoy me to no end.