Which SPL? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

which spl is the best to use?
im rooting a new g1

I don't know why you would ask seeing as you have experience with modding already.
HardSPL if you don't want hero
Danger SPL if you want hero.

evilkorn said:
I don't know why you would ask seeing as you have experience with modding already.
HardSPL if you don't want hero
Danger SPL if you want hero.
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well didnt know what the difference was but now i know its just with all these bricked g1s by the danger SPL but i guess i'll try my luck 1 more time

as long as you have the new radio it won't brick, if you're using cyanogens recovery remember to physically press alt-s, home+back, don't use the trackball. That goes for radio and spl, not roms.

AdrianK said:
as long as you have the new radio it won't brick, if you're using cyanogens recovery remember to physically press alt-s, home+back, don't use the trackball. That goes for radio and spl, not roms.
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i cant use cyans recovery since the download is unavailable since the good C&D letter >:[

AndroidFiend said:
i cant use cyans recovery since the download is unavailable since the good C&D letter >:[
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even his recovery has been removed?! Check your PM's in a few minutes ;-)

AdrianK said:
even his recovery has been removed?! Check your PM's in a few minutes ;-)
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i need it too
i was gonna switch to cyans rom from haykuros when the next stable version came out

The recovery may be effected by the C&D because of nandroid. Cyanogen removed everything until the details are provided by google.

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Advantages of 1.33.2005?

I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
xsnipuhx said:
I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
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You can run Cyan on HardSPL or even the stock SPL. You only need the Haykuro SPL for more internal storage space for the OS in the phone, which allows for bigger ROMs to be used. It will also give you adequate space for whatever you may want on your phones internal memory
Well I am running HardSPL atm, but Hero kind of intrigues me and I wouldnt mind trying it out. But if really doesn't help out that much, I guess I'm going to stick with my setup right now. ty B-man0007
Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
h.nocturna said:
Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
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I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
xsnipuhx said:
I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
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Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
B-man007 said:
Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
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You sir make a good point, I think I'll be staying at the HardSPL then.
If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
h.nocturna said:
If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
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Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
Haykuro's SPL is my favorite, because all that extra space makes things run much faster, on top of giving more room to Cache's if you have Apps2SD. Big time themes also fit onto it, and if you follow instructions closely, should have no problem installing it.
xsnipuhx said:
Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
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I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
h.nocturna said:
I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
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I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
lukekirstein said:
I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
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I'm running JacHero 2.5 w/o Rosie and my friend is using Cy and he was the one that pointed out myne may be even faster and he on Cy 3.6.7.2. That was from his mouth not mine. Not to mention There's now a go around to make sure you get EVERY text message on Hero so you never have to miss another one again
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
xsnipuhx said:
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
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If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
AdrianK said:
If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
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Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
you can still brick your phone even if you do everything right
xsnipuhx said:
Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
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It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
I'm actually in the middle of backing up my SD card and setting up another SD card with the SPL update on it then I'm going to flash it. put the cyanogen rom on my partitioned card and hope everything goes smooth, ill report back when I'm done. Anyone know how to flash my EXT2 partition so i can start fresh?
ei8htohms said:
It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
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haha ya as soon as i heard cyan bricked it i wouldn't touch the dangerspl. thats when i stopped reading all the threads to insure i didn't get a brick lol
but he did flash the dangerspl after people said that it wouldnt flash with his recovery just to test it... so theirs still a chance i might do it lol
please note that there are apparently different versions of the 26I radio. Make sure you flash the one haykuro posted for safetys sake
Should I wipe before I flash the Radio and stuff from haykuros google page?

How to get something like app2sd without rooting your phone?

Can this be done if so how?
nope. root only.
kusotare said:
nope. root only.
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Like he said, its just not possible. The things that need to be modified reside on root-only access folders. So without root access, we aren't allowed to touch these directories and files required to move everything to the sdcard. Its one the incentives of rooting your phone.
sillyshy said:
Can this be done if so how?
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Just ROOT, its super easy great vid on youtube its a 3 part series check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Aff5DXBBw
its totally worth it
why wouldn't you want root? just wondering
Looks hard
Its not hard at all. infact its rather simple . just read and re-read the guides and if all else fails watch the videos.
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Looks hard
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Perfect guide by Koush
Rooted my phone and a friends in a couple of minutes
Cake
Thanks for the guide. Question is instead of using JF's build how would I modife the guide to install [ROM]*New 1.76.61.3 build* Drizzy's Touchflo3D Hero - v2.5 "July/27 *5:17pm*"
I was using the instructions from the youtube video provided to me earlyer with download.
sillyshy said:
Thanks for the guide. Question is instead of using JF's build how would I modife the guide to install [ROM]*New 1.76.61.3 build* Drizzy's Touchflo3D Hero - v2.5 "July/27 *5:17pm*"
I was using the instructions from the youtube video provided to me earlyer with download.
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Instead of throwing JF's on your card as update.zip just put the hero 3d on as update.zip and flash. Have to make sure to have the new spl and new radio if your going to do any hero build. And read drizzy's page to see the requirements for setting up your sd card. Easy stuff.
Is the spl and radio all the same from any source?
sillyshy said:
Is the spl and radio all the same from any source?
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No. To find your radio and spl power on your phone using cam + power.
supremeteam256 said:
No. To find your radio and spl power on your phone using cam + power.
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mine is radio 1.22.12.29
DREA100 PVT 32B
CPLD-4
September 2 2008
sillyshy said:
mine is radio 1.22.12.29
DREA100 PVT 32B
CPLD-4
September 2 2008
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You need the new radio and spl to load hero.
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
Here is the radio and new spl. If your going to do this make sure you FLASH RADIO FIRST and then spl, otherwise you'll end up with a paperweight. After you flash the spl you phone will stay stuck at g1 screen. You will then need to take your card out and put it in a card reader and load up your rom and flash and you done.
honestly man, if your rooting/flashing for the first time, i would go with a stable build for a little while that you wont have to partition, linux-swap, etc. at least for a little while just to get used to it...
i know hero is tempting and the devs have done an AMAZING job of optimizing the hell out of it. but if you looked at the threads to root and thought that was tricky then just get used to it for a while before moving to non-stable/experimental type roms.

New SPL with DREA100 PVT 32B+new radio

So if I have the new radio (2.22.19.26I) and the PVT board. Do I still need to do a wipe then flash the SPL then reflash my rom? I have looked around but can't seem to find some concrete clarification on this.
Yeah, that sounds fine.
wipe
flash the spl
wipe
flash the new rom
if your on cyan's recovery, make sure you press alt&s on the keyboard then when it asks you to reboot press home and back, don't use the trackball at all.
Thank you very much I appreciate the help
AdrianK said:
Yeah, that sounds fine.
wipe
flash the spl
wipe
flash the new rom
if your on cyan's recovery, make sure you press alt&s on the keyboard then when it asks you to reboot press home and back, don't use the trackball at all.
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Whats wrong with using the trackball?
pistol4413 said:
Whats wrong with using the trackball?
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It's a bug in Cyan's recovery when flashing the radio or spl. Basically, when you use the trackball to aply the update and reboot, it wont actually have been flashed. Physically pressing the keys does, though. It's only for SPLs and radios, it's fine for ROMs. This is what other people have reported, no idea if it's fixed in 1.4.
AdrianK said:
It's a bug in Cyan's recovery when flashing the radio or spl. Basically, when you use the trackball to aply the update and reboot, it wont actually have been flashed. Physically pressing the keys does, though. It's only for SPLs and radios, it's fine for ROMs. This is what other people have reported, no idea if it's fixed in 1.4.
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I call it a feature. It means noobs have to research before potentially bricking
After I've reflashed my rom after applyin the spl update could I use a nandroid backup? Or does the back up affect the spl? I've had the radio for awhile now and just never did the spl. I have a backup from before I did the spl that is using the newest radio.
So if that's confusing sorry. I want to know if I can use a nandroid backup with the new spl after I reflash my rom after a wipe.
B-man007 said:
I call it a feature. It means noobs have to research before potentially bricking
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You get cake for this one. Cynically I agree with this statement... study study study, ask questions till someone tells you to shut up, but least in the end, you will know whats up and can help others. =D
SlicedKuniva said:
After I've reflashed my rom after applyin the spl update could I use a nandroid backup? Or does the back up affect the spl? I've had the radio for awhile now and just never did the spl. I have a backup from before I did the spl that is using the newest radio.
So if that's confusing sorry. I want to know if I can use a nandroid backup with the new spl after I reflash my rom after a wipe.
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do you mean you want to use nandroid to back up or do you mean restore that backup?
I dont believe the nandroid restore affects the radio (if it does i would be scared to restore lmao)
Mysticales said:
You get cake for this one. Cynically I agree with this statement... study study study, ask questions till someone tells you to shut up, but least in the end, you will know whats up and can help others. =D
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haha thats how i learn. i just read, read and more read
I got everything running by myself w/o posting any questions
If i didnt understand something, i would spend hours and visit multiple sites to learn what the hell i was doing.
i know what its like being a noob, not everything is clear cut, and sometimes people just want to do something and not get involved in the community, which is why there are so many hit-n-run people. I loved this community though because of all the help, and im hoping to get more people to stay by helping them out
(some people just annoy me though haha)
EDIT: Nandroid doesnt touch the radio. the radio is 91mb. the biggest files in the nandroid flash are the data and system partitions (about 50-60mb each)
I wouldnt recommend restoring a nandroid back up because the dangerspl repartitions the flash memory. However, it could still work. someone with more experience please answer the man
@AdrainK
Ah well since I have had 1.4 I haven't had to flash the spl or radio so no issues here just wondering. Thanx for clearing that up for me
Double post srry

Do i want to upgrade my SPL and/or Radio?

I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything, but i've seen this around alot and haven't been able to find much info.
I've come to the understanding that the SPL and the radio have something to do with the phone's boot loader, but that's really all i know.
Info about my phone is in my signature.
Do i want to upgrade my SPL and/or Radio?
Any info you can give me would be very helpful.
Thank You.
KodieG said:
I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything, but i've seen this around alot and haven't been able to find much info.
I've come to the understanding that the SPL and the radio have something to do with the phone's boot loader, but that's really all i know.
Info about my phone is in my signature.
Do i want to upgrade my SPL and/or Radio?
Any info you can give me would be very helpful.
Thank You.
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Only upgrade your spl if you plan on going to something such as a hero or blur rom. They basically rearrange your phones memory partitions to give more to .system and /data to allow for bigger roms to be used. If you plan on staying on cyanogen, any spl will work as of right now.
JAguirre1231 said:
Only upgrade your spl if you plan on going to something such as a hero or blur rom. They basically rearrange your phones memory partitions to give more to .system and /data to allow for bigger roms to be used. If you plan on staying on cyanogen, any spl will work as of right now.
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Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?
KodieG said:
Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?
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Of course not the radio must be changed if you want to use custom roms.The whole point of having root access if loading custom roms that are faster than OTA.Think about it like having a Government ID and still waiting in line at the airport, pointless right? The Special SPL allows you to install larger roms(eclair/hero/blur/pulse/)cyanogen doesnt need the special spl though.
Ace42 said:
Of course not the radio must be changed if you want to use custom roms.The whole point of having root access if loading custom roms that are faster than OTA.Think about it like having a Government ID and still waiting in line at the airport, pointless right? The Special SPL allows you to install larger roms(eclair/hero/blur/pulse/)cyanogen doesnt need the special spl though.
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Ok, so its probably a good idea to upgrade my radio atleast, right?
If so, where could i get the latest radio version?
KodieG said:
Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?
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for people like me who like to use hero roms from time to time
KodieG said:
Ok, so its probably a good idea to upgrade my radio atleast, right?
If so, where could i get the latest radio version?
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http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
-Best of luck
Ace42 said:
http://android-roms.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip
-Best of luck
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Wait a minute. I already have that version. I've never upgraded it or anything though.
KodieG said:
Wait a minute. I already have that version. I've never upgraded it or anything though.
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Its included in the OTA(1.6) update from tmobile or rogers.
KodieG said:
Is that the only reason why people upgrade their radio and spl?
And how come i see people using cyan with upgraded spl's and radios?
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It also gives you more room for system and data, which means without a2sd you can install more apps

[SOLVED]Hero Rom for HSPL

Micro Hero Rom Installed
Hi i am looking for a Hero Rom for Hard SPL if any. i know that there is a micro Hero rom for any SPL...but after i install the micro hero rom i get lot of forecloses..and a blank homescreen with a notification bar ....
I use Amon RA recovery for Dream and i have switchrom so i have backups...
I have posted for help in the Micro Hero Rom and i talked to the Author of the Rom but so far no luck....
This is the ROM Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561179
these are the instructions from the Author
"How to install:
1, Copy update file to sdcard
1b, If using a recovery older than Cyanogen 1.4, rename to update.zip
2, flash from recovery and if first time with this build, alt+w to wipe
3, in adb, type adb shell mount /system/sd; rm -r /system/sd/*
4, Reboot"
i have setup adb but when i type "mount /system/sd; rm -r /system/sd/*"
it says that "cannot remove /system/sd/* " or something...
Is there any other way to do it like from recovery??
I really liked the Rom
this is my SPL details
Drea100 PVT 32B
HSPL10.95.3000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Current rom: Cyanogenmod 4.2.9.1
Partition: 512 mb EXT 3 94 mb swap rest FAT
I am sorry if my post is stupid and yea i did search a lot
That's it. The microhero, MAYBE Eugene's Espresso because I think he mentioned not having it made specifically for Haykuro spl. I would check it out
JAguirre1231 said:
That's it. The microhero, MAYBE Eugene's Espresso because I think he mentioned not having it made specifically for Haykuro spl. I would check it out
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no its for Death SPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5340058#post5340058
Use the recovery in my sig and do the 3 wipes: factory, ext, and davlic.
evilkorn said:
Use the recovery in my sig and do the 3 wipes: factory, ext, and davlic.
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i did that...still i am getting forecloses after the htc logo boots up..
well i have this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4647751&postcount=1 v 1.5.2
If i do the Full wipe i have a boot loop htc logo
geokuttan said:
no its for Death SPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5340058#post5340058
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Try v2, it wasn't until today that it needed the Danger spl
JAguirre1231 said:
Try v2, it wasn't until today that it needed the Danger spl
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i flashed the 2.0 version.....
geokuttan said:
i flashed the 2.0 version.....
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http://www.4shared.com/file/194773147/6ec4f2bd/Espresso_v2.html
JAguirre1231 said:
http://www.4shared.com/file/194773147/6ec4f2bd/Espresso_v2.html
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finally i flashed it....now instead of homescreen there is a htc logo....
lol
geokuttan said:
finally i flashed it....now instead of homescreen there is a htc logo....
lol
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Ok, that happens after all hero roms. In about a minute it will show a loading window
JAguirre1231 said:
Ok, that happens after all hero roms. In about a minute it will show a loading window
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yeppieeee i finally got it to work...thankx a lot man.... YOU ROCK....
i can use APNDroid to block 3g right....and other apps (cyanogenmod apps) should work right...
One last question....it seems kinda laggy little bit...is there any way to speed up...like increasing the swap size...i already have 96 mb...
geokuttan said:
yeppieeee i finally got it to work...thankx a lot man.... YOU ROCK....
i can use APNDroid to block 3g right....and other apps (cyanogenmod apps) should work right...
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No, most of cyans apps are made for 1.6, this is 2.0 (2.1?). Some may work, but bluetooth won't, spare parts won't, contact and phone won't, etc...
And apndroid should should work.
JAguirre1231 said:
No, most of cyans apps are made for 1.6, this is 2.0 (2.1?). Some may work, but bluetooth won't, spare parts won't, contact and phone won't, etc...
And apndroid should should work.
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yea..it seems little bit laggy...is there any way to fix it...
geokuttan said:
yea..it seems little bit laggy...is there any way to fix it...
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It's laggy because it was made for the stock spl, if you had the danger spl it would be faster. And Hero isn't exactly the kind of rom you should be running if you want speed
yea...i didnt flash danger spl because some people said that it might brick my phone...so i didnt wanna take the risk...and if i have danger spl...i cannot run cyanogenmod...
geokuttan said:
yea...i didnt flash danger spl because some people said that it might brick my phone...so i didnt wanna take the risk...and if i have danger spl...i cannot run cyanogenmod...
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You have a possbility of bricking yes. And that is wrong, spl allows you to have more space for apps and such. It doesn't limit your ability to flash roms, flashed cyan yesterday actually.
JAguirre1231 said:
You have a possbility of bricking yes. And that is wrong, spl allows you to have more space for apps and such. It doesn't limit your ability to flash roms, flashed cyan yesterday actually.
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so the cyanogenmod latest will also work with Danger SPL? wow i didnt know that...i might take the risk of changing to Danger SPL(haykuro)....
Last one to add...its faster now..i ran a fix_permission/fix apps uid mismatches...and its faster...

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