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I'm a noob!! HELP!!!!

I have an AT&T Tilt and i wanted to put some stuff on it so if you people have any programs that you would like for me to put on it that would be great. I also have been wondering what an "unlocked" device was. lol thanks.
I also have a 2G Micro SD card FYI

is this a joke?

Start with the GWENI link in my signature... others may not be so nice.

NotATreoFan said:
Start with the GWENI link in my signature... others may not be so nice.
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Scratch that.. Start by taking the initiative to open your eyes and read the threads around you. There is a software forum that maybe you need to look into, because it seems that is your interest. Don't come in here and expect to be spoon fed, I'm fresh out of baby food. The big thing is that there are other threads on the main page that are just like this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393181
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393627

I got the spoon, someone else provide the food.
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no im totally serious i got referred here by a friend and im not a computer teky so i was wondering if there is anything good that i should put on my phone. I dont understand all this stuff about new roms and stuf. i was just asking for help and if you dont want to give it to me then please dont reply

ah it's a normal forum troll who is having fun.
no im totally serious i got referred here by a friend and im not a computer teky so i was wondering if there is anything good that i should put on my phone. I dont understand all this stuff about new roms and stuf. i was just asking for help and if you dont want to give it to me then please dont reply
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And help was provided in the form of links.
Oh can someone make a cool icon of that spoon. You know, one that is a bit smaller that could be added to a sig.

I'm almost thinking we need to create a new forum section called Kaiser > N00bz...since there are so many self professed noobs who have recently been littering general (or worse) with posts like this.
It is one thing to ask a question that has been asked before...I admit sometimes it is very difficult to weed out the relevant information from a search (even if spending 4 hours reading). It is quite another to post something like this which isn't really even a question....more like a request for spoonfeeding.
I think posts like these need to be deleted upon creation.

this is my first time on this site okay? I dont know what to look for. I saw the general discussion about asking questions so i asked a question. should people who dont have knowledge about these things get pushed away because they arent as smart as some of you?

well...u dont need to be smart to know how to search and read the stickies...if u claim to be a noob...which u stated in the title...chances are that other noobs like u have already asked that question that u may have...so a simple search or read around the forum would give u the general basic knowledge u need

thank you mr. nice person i just dont know what exactly to search for and i didnt know that there were other posts like mine so my bad for "littering" your forums.

hapijuice said:
this is my first time on this site okay? I dont know what to look for. I saw the general discussion about asking questions so i asked a question. should people who dont have knowledge about these things get pushed away because they arent as smart as some of you?
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hapi... I am not wanting to bash you specifically. This is a problem that has been plaguing this site for quite a while.
First, you must realize that the name of this site is XDA-DEVELOPERS. It is meant for people who have an interest, and hopefully some skill in developing software for XDA devices. At the very least it would indicate some tweaking/hacking skills to existing software.
If you are clueless (and i don't mean that negatively) about any of these things it isn't exactly the place to be posting, even in the general forum.
This is like walking into an auto mechanics convention and screaming out "Hey can someone tell me what a car is and where I can get one?"
However, we are always open to new faces and if you took the time to look around on your own you would probably learn a few things and answer many of your own questions. After a short while you would probably be able to post with a more informed outlook.
In general, this is universal forum ettiquite, not specific to this site.
As a new user, perhaps you could tell us how we might better design this site to help this situation not happen?
Were things not clearly listed?
Were they listed but you just didn't read them?
Did you read them but not understand them?
Did you understand them and just not care?
Did you care and were just lazy?
These are honest questions to help the community understand how we can better server newcomers.

well i came here because i showed my friend my phone and he said here go to this site and look around. so i did and i just had a question and i needed help. i have a desire to learn about this stuff so i can get some nice stuff for my phone but right now i am kind of clueless. so all i wanted was maybe some programs that were on this site that i could download and that you super tekys think would be good for a starter. and some of the thread things were unclear... like i dont understand what they do and stuff..

Come on guys give the guy a break!
The attitude on here is very much RTFM etc. which is fair enough but I wouldn't object to a noob forum either. There is no comprehensive noob guides, its a discussion forum with about 50 peoples different opinions on what you need and inevitably going into too much detail... I specialise in seperating the wheat from the chaff and really for the average joe there's no harm in it being more accessible.
But as others have said in the current state of play all you can do is read. To flash your rom:
1. Install hardspl on your kaiser
2. Find a ROM you like in the rom development section (be aware: Roms with windows mobile 6.1 you need to install a 6.1 Radio ROM too, the process is the same as installing a ROM)
They all come with instructions pretty much, make sure to back everything up first. There are a lot of good applications out there but if you find a good ROM chef for example dutty (there are a lot, I only mention him because I use his roms) they will often have a full fat ROM with a lot of nice applications bundled in.
As for this being a 'pros only' forum, well how do you get new members? I spend plenty of time on hexus.net which is a tech enthusiast forum and there are tonnes of noobs who don't know a graphics card from a hard drive, but there's still plenty of helpful advice.
+1 For the newbie question section though.
And I think going to mediawiki would be beneficial too.

hapijuice said:
no im totally serious i got referred here by a friend and im not a computer teky so i was wondering if there is anything good that i should put on my phone. I dont understand all this stuff about new roms and stuf. i was just asking for help and if you dont want to give it to me then please dont reply
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The phrase "general discussion " doesn't mean walk in and ask anything. It means after you have done your reading and research if you have a question that doesn't fit into a specific catagory here , then post it in "general"
You have walked into a graduate physics class and said " teach me science people ." That being said , Check out the wiki here and at htcwiki.com go to the TILT Home page. Go over all your download options and information on those pages. Then come back with specific questions or problems.
You will then find that people here can be incredibly friendly and helpful. Well except for a few of you and you know who you are

hapijuice said:
well i came here because i showed my friend my phone and he said here go to this site and look around. so i did and i just had a question and i needed help. i have a desire to learn about this stuff so i can get some nice stuff for my phone but right now i am kind of clueless. so all i wanted was maybe some programs that were on this site that i could download and that you super tekys think would be good for a starter. and some of the thread things were unclear... like i dont understand what they do and stuff..
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The thing is the applications tend to be specific to what you want to do, ROMs are brilliant for improved performance but you really do need to read the bundled information first, it's not as hard as it first looks but if you mess up you could brick your phone.
Applications I frequently use:
- Google Maps (You can use your GPS for free effectively, and even if you can't get a satellite lock it's good at guesstimating your location)
- Quickmenu is start menu replacement that is better in a lot of ways
- Total commander is like windows explorer, (or file explorer) but much more robust and better, generally
- Battery status is a nice application that tells you how much battery you've got left and has some powersaving options
- Opera is better than internet explorer but it's still in beta and is not free
I've also got some games:
- kevtris
- ms pacman
That are good for burning time when I'm bored.

Septastrum said:
Come on guys give the guy a break!
The attitude on here is very much RTFM etc. which is fair enough but I wouldn't object to a noob forum either. There is no comprehensive noob guides, its a discussion forum with about 50 peoples different opinions on what you need and inevitably going into too much detail... I specialise in seperating the wheat from the chaff and really for the average joe there's no harm in it being more accessible.
....
As for this being a 'pros only' forum, well how do you get new members? I spend plenty of time on hexus.net which is a tech enthusiast forum and there are tonnes of noobs who don't know a graphics card from a hard drive, but there's still plenty of helpful advice.
+1 For the newbie question section though.
And I think going to mediawiki would be beneficial too.
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Yes I was serious about a noobz forum. The problem is that many people i think get here via google and just get into a section and don't bother to read anything.
We need to realize that the internet is so common now, it shouldn't be different than real life. You need to know where is the proper place to go for something, and how to ask for it.
As for new members, we welcome them, and after some investment in their own knowledge, they will become productive members.
Alas, there will always be people like you (no offense meant) that will spoonfeed baby yelps like these. However I suspect in a couple of months you too will get tired of it. I always try to help a new user when I can, but not when 0 effort has been made.
Again, I don't mean to bash the OP here, thus my genuine questions about what can be done to help make this more accessible without spoonfeeding. I really think the noobz forum might help and I can't see that trying it out would be a big deal.

uu r not new to the web, r u? read the forum stickies they will answer all ur questions

ok thanks for the help but i gotta go so i appreciate the help and ill try not to be a loser and litter your forums anymore.
and no im not new to the web...

bengalih said:
Again, I don't mean to bash the OP here, thus my genuine questions about what can be done to help make this more accessible without spoonfeeding. I really think the noobz forum might help and I can't see that trying it out would be a big deal.
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Would also give mods the power to move noob questions to the noob forum i.e. keeping the kaiser general forum clean.
I tend to lurk most of the time anyway waiting for new roms so am not always going out of my way to help noobs but certainly whenever someone asks me a question directly I don't mind answering it.

what is flash lite player, what does it do, how do u use it

what is flash lite player, what does it do, how do u use it.
i searched the forums and i do get results.. but i dont get it.. doesnt make any sense... mayb it would for advance people who know about flash lite player. but i have no clue what it is or how to use it.. its just a program sitting on my 8925 =\
just tell me what i asked. greatly appreciated =)
also how do u use the fm radio ... i dont even know how to tune to stations.
also what is the typical best sensitivity number for the touchscreen. mine is currently set to 120
what are 'radios' and what does it do
what are drivers and what do they do
again i searched. i read. i dont understand =\

brian_v3ntura said:
what is flash lite player, what does it do, how do u use it.
i searched the forums and i do get results.. but i dont get it.. doesnt make any sense... mayb it would for advance people who know about flash lite player. but i have no clue what it is or how to use it.. its just a program sitting on my 8925 =\
just tell me what i asked. greatly appreciated =)
also how do u use the fm radio ... i dont even know how to tune to stations.
also what is the typical best sensitivity number for the touchscreen. mine is currently set to 120
what are 'radios' and what does it do
what are drivers and what do they do
again i searched. i read. i dont understand =\
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This should answer your flash lite question:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/
Next, Kaiser does not have a tuner therefore you cannot use a radio with it. Unless you have an am/fm radio on a bluetooth headset or another headset.
third, a radio is what gives your phone reception (to make it short)
finally, if you don't know what drivers are, why are you here?

redbandana said:
This should answer your flash lite question:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/
Next, Kaiser does not have a tuner therefore you cannot use a radio with it. Unless you have an am/fm radio on a bluetooth headset or another headset.
third, a radio is what gives your phone reception (to make it short)
finally, if you don't know what drivers are, why are you here?
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i still dont know what drivers are =\ its confusing when i read.
and um so flash lite is just for developing? or can i download other ppls stuff they made? if so could u point me to the direction =)

redbandana said:
finally, if you don't know what drivers are, why are you here?
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For the same reason you are, I am and everyone else is...to get assistance and info on our devices Mr. Know-it-all....Plick

MACkjam said:
For the same reason you are, I am and everyone else is...to get assistance and info on our devices Mr. Know-it-all....Plick
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I think he ment to imply that the fella is in over his head. If he doesn't understand the lowest of basic info then he probley shouldn't be in a place that caters to the high end.
That being said.
Flash light is something that is used for running programs or things inserted into web pages. You Mr. SuperNoob shouldn't worry about it.
Next
A driver is a like a language interpreter. It translates what windows says into the language a device speaks. Like if windows wanted to show something on the screen, the video driver hears what windows wants and then tells it to the screen in the language it speaks.
If you can't understand anything I've written, then I would suggest doing nothing with your phone and maybe taking it back for something easier.

At your Windows Mobile device the thing is like on your desktop PC.
There is a registry,
a BIOS/Bootloader
drivers for the Hardware
and so on...
If you are not sure in thoose things, experiment more with your desktop pc first cause in the most cases the hardest case is that you have to reinstall your windows.
But on you mobile device it's not so hard to totaly brick it.
When you are more experienced in thoose basic things, then you can try to play with the more advanced features of your device.
Just a tip

ChumleyEX said:
I think he ment to imply that the fella is in over his head. If he doesn't understand the lowest of basic info then he probley shouldn't be in a place that caters to the high end.
That being said.
Flash light is something that is used for running programs or things inserted into web pages. You Mr. SuperNoob shouldn't worry about it.
Next
A driver is a like a language interpreter. It translates what windows says into the language a device speaks. Like if windows wanted to show something on the screen, the video driver hears what windows wants and then tells it to the screen in the language it speaks.
If you can't understand anything I've written, then I would suggest doing nothing with your phone and maybe taking it back for something easier.
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xda is not a place just for high end advance ppl, its also a place for information and learning. everyone starts off from the basics and learn gradually. u act like u knew everything from the start n i am just trying to learn since other searches just talk talk talk n i dont comprehend. thats why i am starting a foundation for myself and build from it. yes i am a noob not the only one. and u was once one as well

OK two things.
This is a developers community, look in the name. As developers some advanced computer savvy is implied.
Do we discriminate against none savvy people? Not really feel free to learn and read and read and read. That's how I got the knowledge I have. We may make fun of you because smart people have superiority complexes.
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JimmyMcGee said:
OK two things.
This is a developers community, look in the name. As developers some advanced computer savvy is implied.
Do we discriminate against none savvy people? Not really feel free to learn and read and read and read. That's how I got the knowledge I have. We may make fun of you because smart people have superiority complexes.
Also, Chumley does know everything and always has!
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pretty immature to post those kinds of picture n so what if it has DEVELOPERS in the name. and ur trying implement that this is a developers community then why is there a forum for accesories when they r things to be bought. or threads posting to sell stuff. or ppl asking for help. never hurts to ask questions about stuff that is not known and reading stuff that doesnt make sense is pointless whem trying to seek out the basics.

hate to say it, but xda-dev is for more indepth info on the phones we use. at&t's support forum is more basic then 80% of what's in these forums. The guy seems new to the boards and made the mistake of posting things that have been covered, it happens. The picture posts were funny, don't know what was immature... I'd say just drop it, and keep searching google...

GreenLantern said:
hate to say it, but xda-dev is for more indepth info on the phones we use. at&t's support forum is more basic then 80% of what's in these forums. The guy seems new to the boards and made the mistake of posting things that have been covered, it happens. The picture posts were funny, don't know what was immature... I'd say just drop it, and keep searching google...
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but its better to ask advance ppl who know what they are talking about and build from their answers. and i like xda becuz i got quite a handful of programs plus useful information on doing SOME things.
and i do search google a lot but sumtimes i look for stuff , get results, and dont understand so i just have to ask =\
and also another question. what is the send button? like when i had to hard reset my 8525 and i held the two soft keys and the soft reset button at the same time.. then it does all this stuff then ask my to push the send key.... so i thought that the send key is the button i press to send text msgs so i pushed that button... but nothing happens. so i think its broken so i had to buy the tilt....
JK but it was pretty funnny becuz i actually read the story . a guy didnt even know that the send key was the green button and bought a new phone becuz he thought his phone was broken but later found out what it was after ppl called him stupid n dumb .

brian_v3ntura said:
pretty immature to post those kinds of picture n so what if it has DEVELOPERS in the name. and ur trying implement that this is a developers community then why is there a forum for accesories when they r things to be bought. or threads posting to sell stuff. or ppl asking for help. never hurts to ask questions about stuff that is not known and reading stuff that doesnt make sense is pointless whem trying to seek out the basics.
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You don't want to take me on buddy. I win.

brian_v3ntura said:
and also another question. what is the send button? like when i had to hard reset my 8525 and i held the two soft keys and the soft reset button at the same time.. then it does all this stuff then ask my to push the send key.... so i thought that the send key is the button i press to send text msgs so i pushed that button... but nothing happens. so i think its broken so i had to buy the tilt....
JK but it was pretty funnny becuz i actually read the story . a guy didnt even know that the send key was the green button and bought a new phone becuz he thought his phone was broken but later found out what it was after ppl called him stupid n dumb .
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ROTFL i saw that post............ there is always someone less knowing than you. Dont take too much of what some of these guys say to heart. Searching, reading, and not understanding is understandable.... and its cool that you want to learn, but ill say this....... Would you try to build a chronohexometer without first knowing what a nanosintomicrom does? Or what about the microstrenico that powers the flux capaciter?
Ok so that last part was a bit of rubbish..... but what it means is.... at least research the basic terms ( drivers, radio firmware, ect . . . . . . ) before asking silly things ....thats what gets you into trouble here
Start here
http://www.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone1.htm
and here
http://kb.iu.edu/data/aihi.html
Took all of 20 seconds and the top searches in google . . . . . . Hrmmmmmm......
and Here is the BEST POST..... right here on XDA..... 2 pages deep from the KAISER WIKI
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserROM_FlashingFAQ
Hope this helps . . . . . .

pyraxiate said:
ROTFL i saw that post............ there is always someone less knowing than you. Dont take too much of what some of these guys say to heart. Searching, reading, and not understanding is understandable.... and its cool that you want to learn, but ill say this....... Would you try to build a chronohexometer without first knowing what a nanosintomicrom does? Or what about the microstrenico that powers the flux capaciter?
Ok so that last part was a bit of rubbish..... but what it means is.... at least research the basic terms ( drivers, radio firmware, ect . . . . . . ) before asking silly things ....thats what gets you into trouble here
Start here
http://www.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone1.htm
and here
http://kb.iu.edu/data/aihi.html
Took all of 20 seconds and the top searches in google . . . . . . Hrmmmmmm......
and Here is the BEST POST..... right here on XDA..... 2 pages deep from the KAISER WIKI
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserROM_FlashingFAQ
Hope this helps . . . . . .
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yea those link do help =) thanks but... its still funny to know tht not every1 knows what a send button.

​Brian, a little friendly advice here...
You have seriously become what is known as a "Serial Threader". Follow the links in my Signature, read them and understand them. Then come back and be a good forum citizen.
First, you need to post in the proper subforum. Questions about flashing DO NOT belong in the General subforum, they belong in the upgrading subforum.
Next, you need to post your questions in the correct threads (i.e. for the Rom you are using or in a thread that asks the same thing).
Then only time you should create a NEW thread is when there are no existing threads where your question fits. None of your threads fits this requirement.
Finally, be patient. Nobody at XDA-Devs is paid for their time, yes even the Moderation Team is entirely volunteer.
Take to heart the fact that XDA-Devs is just as much about the journey as it is the destination. If you don't care for the how but only want the bling then this is not the right place for you.
Thanks,​

Which ROM to use???

Alright, before some people get started, I have read the noob's sticky and have done the HardSPL and such. I am just having SO MANY problem's with everything (just the AT&T Tilt, I need to get rid of the AT&T crap) so I just want to know what ROM people would recomend for person who doens't need crazy special program's. All I use is the internet and text msging and some GPS. What is the fastest ROM with pretty much the most basic program's on it?
I had the AT&T Rom which I unlocked by getting the unlock code and then I did the hard reset and configured the phone and then a soft reset before the AT&T crap got loaded onto my phone but now I can't set up the internet???? (I think's it's because I don't have the AT&T program to turn off the proxy?)
I know you guy's get a lot of these question's that seem stupid but I am new to the Kaiser so help would be very much appreciatted.

1. Wrong forum.
2. Everybody has their own taste.
3. Test them all out and see which you like best.
4. Thread's going to probably get closed.

haha search? it's all good just search a lot before posting personally i spend atleast two days searching threads and trying things before i post up my problem.

You should start trying the last Official Rom, look for them in the wiki
Good Luck!

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1. Wrong forum.
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Well, I don't think this is the wrong forum to ask - it has nothing to do with ROM DEVELOPMENT, it is just a general question!
I too would say: try the latest offical HTC ROM - it has no user customization / user preferred application integrated and is almost clean. In addition, it has everything to get you started, from AUTO NETWORK / INTERNET CONFIGURATION to STREAMING MEDIA PLAYER.

Alright, before some people get started, I have read the noob's sticky and have done the HardSPL and such. I am just having SO MANY problem's with everything (just the AT&T Tilt, I need to get rid of the AT&T crap) so I just want to know what ROM people would recomend for person who doens't need crazy special program's. All I use is the internet and text msging and some GPS. What is the fastest ROM with pretty much the most basic program's on it?
I had the AT&T Rom which I unlocked by getting the unlock code and then I did the hard reset and configured the phone and then a soft reset before the AT&T crap got loaded onto my phone but now I can't set up the internet???? (I think's it's because I don't have the AT&T program to turn off the proxy?)
I know you guy's get a lot of these question's that seem stupid but I am new to the Kaiser so help would be very much appreciatted.
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I would prefer the newest firmware from Zelmer Iron.
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I think it is hilarious how people just LOVE to get on other's ass's about simple question's. I am asking for people OPINION'S!!!!!!!!! If you don't feel like giving one well hell, THEN DON'T!!!!!! Also the wrong forum thing, that's strange because I don't think that I am developing any rom's am I? I thought this was a "general" question? It's funny because when I have talked to people on other site's, this is EXACTLY what they said about some people here, instead of just helping you the love to chirp about nothing.
Well thank's to the one person to recomended the HTC ROM. I appreciatte 1 decent person.

carltmac said:
I think it is hilarious how people just LOVE to get on other's ass's about simple question's. I am asking for people OPINION'S!!!!!!!!! If you don't feel like giving one well hell, THEN DON'T!!!!!! Also the wrong forum thing, that's strange because I don't think that I am developing any rom's am I? I thought this was a "general" question? It's funny because when I have talked to people on other site's, this is EXACTLY what they said about some people here, instead of just helping you the love to chirp about nothing.
Well thank's to the one person to recomended the HTC ROM. I appreciatte 1 decent person.
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You know, it's not even that, but when you get ongoing threads about the same idea, it gets extremely annoying.
The ROM i like wont necessarily be the ROM that you like; it's a matter of taste and content.
Anyhow, to answer your question, i'm on my own Kareem's RevROM v4.44.

I understand what your saying 100%, the only thing is what do I search? Like I went to the "built in forum search" and when I type in what I am looking for (under Kaiser obviously) I get like 100 thread's that each have 100 page's? I am not trying to be that lazy guy that want's everything done, I am just that new guy that want's to learn how to make a good phone freaking awesome.
Thank's for the help, I'll give that ROM a shot.
Also this will clear 100% everything off of my phone and just let me start new correct?????
I want to get this internet going since I am paying for 6GB's a month haha.

For me some of the best Kaiser Roms are ROMeOS 4.6 (no manilla) and Solace 1.5 or 2.0 Beta (manilla 2D).
Unfortunately both Chefs have moved on from cooking Kaiser roms, so those are probably the last versions of each.
Anyway, those Roms are fast, and use the minimalistic mentality. They do not come with anything extra, however there are extra applications in the extended ROM if you want to install them.

carltmac said:
I understand what your saying 100%, the only thing is what do I search? Like I went to the "built in forum search" and when I type in what I am looking for (under Kaiser obviously) I get like 100 thread's that each have 100 page's? I am not trying to be that lazy guy that want's everything done, I am just that new guy that want's to learn how to make a good phone freaking awesome.
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That is exactly the point. The reason you get 100 different threads when you search is because of threads like this one. Now the next guy will get 101 different threads.
This place is a great database of knowledge, but these threads don't add anything to that. Nothing new will be learned in this thread - no new problem solved. Threads like this just make the informative posts and knowledge gaining threads less likely to be found.
People aren't getting on you because they don't want to help or they just want to yell, it's because they see the big picture. They see that in trying to help yourself, you are hurting everyone else.
My Tilt is the first phone I've ever had that could do more than call someone, yet using only information that I've gleaned from this site, I've been able to unlock my phone, flash dozens of different ROMs, flash dozens of different radios, write my own scripts, and develop my own small apps to accomplish what I wanted to do. The key part here is that I did all of this without starting a single thread. I'm sure there are hundreds of others who can say the same thing....and it's probably why they seem annoyed. They know it's possible to find the information because they've done it....but they also know that it's now becoming increasingly more difficult to find it again.
If you don't know what to search for, just start browsing the ROM development forum and look for the threads that are the hottest and that have the most posts. That will tell you which ROMs people are using. Find a handful of them and read the details. See which ones look the cleanest and don't have the apps that you don't want (or have the ones that you do).....and then try a few. Kareem's right - my answer is going to be different than his or anybody else's. There will be just as many answers as there are ROMs, so looking through the ROMs themselves seems like the obvious way to get the information you seek.
You can be a great contributor to this place by taking the time to find the information that is already present, and in doing so, making it easier for the next user to do the same.

As noted in the link below, all "best roms" threads will be closed/deleted. I am going to close this one and then will delete it later.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=377http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443265

modding in st louis mo

does anyone know or do roms in st louis i want the hero rom, i tried but brick my phone got it back running but, still want the rom and dont want to brick it again so any help would be nice.

Not trying to be mean or rude or nothing like that, but if you get someone to do it for you, then want to change something later, you'll be in the same boat. It's not really a good idea to change anything on your phone unless you know how to fix what you break. You said you almost bricked it, but got it back. That means you got some stuff figured out. Don't give up. If you are scared you might end up with a brick, than testing roms is not for you. Stick with stock if it worries you that much.
The problem is you didn't spend enough time reading what people have already posted. If you had read it well you would know this thread won't get any answers, will get closed, and you run the risk of being banned for a few days for posting in the wrong section. This belongs in the Q&A section.
That said, read up a little more. Start with a normal modded rom, and then move on to a hero rom. Step by step instructions are in a number of posts here. If you still can't get it after a couple trys, ask in the right section, people are more than happy to help if you know where to post for them to see you need it.

tbiggie2003 said:
does anyone know or do roms in st louis i want the hero rom, i tried but brick my phone got it back running but, still want the rom and dont want to brick it again so any help would be nice.
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Check your PM

There is no such thing as almost a brick, you brick it and you are done. Game over.
What you are refering to is known as a bootloop, I like to call them booty loops cause it makes them sound like a damn breakfast cereal and I don't feel too annoyed that I got one. Normally it is as easy as a wipe to fix or maybe a repartion to fix. Don't let a little misstep in your way stop you from learning what you need to. Even expert flashers run into the eventual problem but we are smart and make nandroid back-ups

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I like to call them booty loops cause it makes them sound like a damn breakfast cereal and I don't feel too annoyed that I got one.
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i had to lol at this

thx for all the help, and sorry for posting in the wrong area im new to this and im really dont want some one to do this for me its more of a sit down and teach how, so i dont get the "booty loops" lol like i had before. maybe should of put that in the first post my bad. im just fed up with the stock version want to mix it up with out having to get a new phone every month if they just would have released this with the g1.

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thx for all the help, and sorry for posting in the wrong area im new to this and im really dont want some one to do this for me its more of a sit down and teach how, so i dont get the "booty loops" lol like i had before. maybe should of put that in the first post my bad. im just fed up with the stock version want to mix it up with out having to get a new phone every month if they just would have released this with the g1.
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Email me at [email protected]
I am in St. Louis and can help you.

They won't release the g1 like this because google doesn't want us to be chnging every thing, google doesn't want power users. I just had a big bowel of booty loops coming back from xrom to cyan's. Always yummy

flash player and 4.999 questions

hi guys
right first question is does anyone know of when flash player is being released or if i can get it onto my phone now some other way, ive had a look over forums but cant find anything or maybe im looking in the wrong places
the other question is about the cm 4.999 update
i tried to instal last night but when i rebooted after using ar`s recovery it just froze at the g1 symbol, I did look over the forum and found a confusing thread about how to install it, if anyone can help and post links to the downloads i need i would very much appreciate it
cheers
steve

here u go.. im not an ass like alot of people here i know its hard to read so many dumb ass comments and misleading post and people who think they know it all but in the end have same issues.. theres alot of cry babies who just dicc ride forum mods.. but yuh watch where you post and how u post.. and "what you say" some people get all forum hurt.. lol
but here is for your 4.1.99 issue.as for flash.. dont know if or when they will.. i heard beg of next year!
http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/10/04/how-to-install-cyanogenmod-4-1-99-on-your-g1-android-phone/

nice one cheers fella, i know exactly what you mean i know ppl ask the same questions over and over and some threads get trashed with rubbish and lead off to otheer directions, glad there is some helpful ppl out there and not all are ignorante, thanks again for being so helpful and thoughtful
steve
p.s. i did hear there was meant to be a release date for this month for the flash player but maybe its been rolled back til next year
cheers

i heard so it was supposed to be in the big eclair..but since the whole cyan thing with google and blah its just all rumors.. idk..i know some phones have it already..but also its Adobes issue with the flash 10 as well...so its still just workin out kinks..im not official on it but yuh just stay up on google and yuh.. also hit me on a private message ill hook u up with some cool info!

ah i just thought i am in the uk so does this easy intal work the same way or is there a uk version? just thought i would ask so i dont brick the phone

um im not sure.. honestly checc out the development forum.. and look for the recent CYAN KEEPIN YA LEGAL FOR LESS post.. it explains..i dont see why not but just make sure..

Yes those mean ignorant a$$holes here in the forums that never help and hijack threads after a question has been answered, shame on them. How dare we expect handholding and not love this post new thread even though chances are extremely high that the same dumb question as we are asking in a thread or 2 under ours. We think that nobody out of the thousands of other g1 members have ever encontered the same problems or have the same questions as exactly as we have them and when someone tells us to try using the search button as a response we get all uppity and mean and start getting like a 13 year old child.
Now that I said it from an absolute noob preseptive
Now from the other side
The search button is extremely usefull, if you can use google than you can use it, ask your question than add g1 or android also the month to filter down your results. Xda is a very large forum covering a wide range of devices. I have spent numerous hours on here helping answer repeated questions over and over and over again. You get to the point were you get annoyed. All the answers you ask are posted all over the place. If you have a real legiate question than the senior members here are more than likely to hop on it and honestly try to help with a great attidue.
Disclaimer: if you do not like the opinions of this user than you can go **** yourself. Thank you and goodnight

the reverend glock said:
Yes those mean ignorant a$$holes here in the forums that never help and hijack threads after a question has been answered, shame on them. How dare we expect handholding and not love this post new thread even though chances are extremely high that the same dumb question as we are asking in a thread or 2 under ours. We think that nobody out of the thousands of other g1 members have ever encontered the same problems or have the same questions as exactly as we have them and when someone tells us to try using the search button as a response we get all uppity and mean and start getting like a 13 year old child.
Now that I said it from an absolute noob preseptive
Now from the other side
The search button is extremely usefull, if you can use google than you can use it, ask your question than add g1 or android also the month to filter down your results. Xda is a very large forum covering a wide range of devices. I have spent numerous hours on here helping answer repeated questions over and over and over again. You get to the point were you get annoyed. All the answers you ask are posted all over the place. If you have a real legiate question than the senior members here are more than likely to hop on it and honestly try to help with a great attidue.
Disclaimer: if you do not like the opinions of this user than you can go **** yourself. Thank you and goodnight
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+8<---(make that sideways) i am pretty sure i have well over 1000 posts in the Q&A section, with 750 of them actually honestly answering peoples questions.

david1171 said:
+8<---(make that sideways) i am pretty sure i have well over 1000 posts in the Q&A section, with 750 of them actually honestly answering peoples questions.
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and 749 of them could have been answered with a quick search

right im all sorted on this now guys thanks very much for the help i am now succesfully running 4.1.999
cheers
steve

steve57925 said:
right im all sorted on this now guys thanks very much for the help i am now succesfully running 4.1.999
cheers
steve
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and now there is 4.1.9999 (or is there some hideous malfunction in it i do not know about, and in which case i should nandroid back to 4.1.999)

What's up bman, did you not like my long drawn out response about people's attidue's and I think out of my 1000 posts almost all our here or general and at 600 have been helping people that if the took the time to read for 10 mins or bothered with the search button then I would have never had to answer

Wow
the reverend glock said:
Yes those mean ignorant a$$holes here in the forums that never help and hijack threads after a question has been answered, shame on them. How dare we expect handholding and not love this post new thread even though chances are extremely high that the same dumb question as we are asking in a thread or 2 under ours. We think that nobody out of the thousands of other g1 members have ever encontered the same problems or have the same questions as exactly as we have them and when someone tells us to try using the search button as a response we get all uppity and mean and start getting like a 13 year old child.
Now that I said it from an absolute noob preseptive
Now from the other side
The search button is extremely usefull, if you can use google than you can use it, ask your question than add g1 or android also the month to filter down your results. Xda is a very large forum covering a wide range of devices. I have spent numerous hours on here helping answer repeated questions over and over and over again. You get to the point were you get annoyed. All the answers you ask are posted all over the place. If you have a real legiate question than the senior members here are more than likely to hop on it and honestly try to help with a great attidue.
Disclaimer: if you do not like the opinions of this user than you can go **** yourself. Thank you and goodnight
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Glock,
Well put..... this quote should be pasted on the top of the Q&A page in big bold red letters.

maybeoneday said:
Glock,
Well put..... this quote should be pasted on the top of the Q&A page in big bold red letters.
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why thank you maybeoneday

gridlock32404 said:
why thank you maybeoneday
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hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahaha
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gridlock32404 said:
why thank you maybeoneday
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They will never know.

maybe not, sssshhh. i am playing a drizzy

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you better keep it that way

gridlock32404 said:
What's up bman, did you not like my long drawn out response about people's attidue's and I think out of my 1000 posts almost all our here or general and at 600 have been helping people that if the took the time to read for 10 mins or bothered with the search button then I would have never had to answer
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haha dude like 90% of my posts (probably more) are right here in q&a helping people
and i dont like how many noobs start off by saying DONT FLAME ME I SEARCHED! YOU WERE A NOOB TOO!!!
because i WILL flame them. i got to this point by research + reading
something that is no longer familiar to the interweb userz
its not like its very hard to learn. especially stupid things like "by wipe do you mean wipe?"
reverend glock (who ever that noob is) said it best
i feel for these people though cause some of them try, and when they show effort, im more than glad to help. but when someones here for hit and run answers.... i get angry
and you wouldnt want me angry..
(ps, is he the one you talkin bout in your sig? )