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Hi.
I'd like to know which settings result in the best video playback on the TyTN II.
Forgive me if this is posted somewhere else, but I could not find it when searching.
I'm running WM 6.1 Sleuth 3.0 with TCPMP 0.81.
How about the best settings for Coreplayer as well. Also running Sleuth 3.0. Sleuth any comments, you seem to have Coreplayer as well.
Jckf said:
Hi.
I'd like to know which settings result in the best video playback on the TyTN II.
Forgive me if this is posted somewhere else, but I could not find it when searching.
I'm running WM 6.1 Sleuth 3.0 with TCPMP 0.81.
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There is no best settings!
It's all about how you rip your movies!!
Have you ever heard the phrase, "Garbage in, Garbage out"
If you start out with a quality file, you won't need TCPMP to enhance or make it better.
All my movies are .avi and I use Clone DVD Mobile to rip them. Personally, I haven't had any issues playng movies with TCPMP or CORE Player.
All my settings are default
I'm copying videos that are not converted in any special way to play back good on mobile devices.
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dwny said:
There is no best settings!
It's all about how you rip your movies!!
Have you ever heard the phrase, "Garbage in, Garbage out"
If you start out with a quality file, you won't need TCPMP to enhance or make it better.
All my movies are .avi and I use Clone DVD Mobile to rip them. Personally, I haven't had any issues playng movies with TCPMP or CORE Player.
All my settings are default
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guys what dwny said is right .....but also you can search online for any dvd to ipod (zune) program and it will work as good also!!
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SO far I noticed 2 things that effected quality of video.
I ripped 2 avi with different settings.
Video A was in 320x240 (cropped), 26fps
Video B was in 512x384 (unedited), 29fps
1) Video A played smoothly throughout. Audio lag was evident after about 1.5 hrs. Otherwise very watchable. Thus I figured 26fps is max for the Kaiser.
2) The video B skipped and dragged. Audio stayed in sync. When I selected TCPMP to play video B in full original size (overlapping the screen) it played smoother. Thus I figure that resizing is too much for the cpu of the Kaiser so when you encode, select 320x240.
fyi, audio was mp3 128kbps, 44000 on both.
I should specify what I mean by full original size.
Options --> Zoom ---> 100%
Also should specify I mean "when encoding select 320x240" MAXIMUM which will reduce the load on the cpu for video resizing.
You know, sometimes, you just happens to have badly ripped (poorly, or improperly or whatever but someone else did it and you don't have control) video but would like to watch it.
So, looking for better settings to improve the viewing.....
Latest video codec? audio codec? cache? how to set it? Where to get it from?........
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SO far I noticed 2 things that effected quality of video.
I ripped 2 avi with different settings.
Video A was in 320x240 (cropped), 26fps
Video B was in 512x384 (unedited), 29fps
1) Video A played smoothly throughout. Audio lag was evident after about 1.5 hrs. Otherwise very watchable. Thus I figured 26fps is max for the Kaiser.
2) The video B skipped and dragged. Audio stayed in sync. When I selected TCPMP to play video B in full original size (overlapping the screen) it played smoother. Thus I figure that resizing is too much for the cpu of the Kaiser so when you encode, select 320x240.
fyi, audio was mp3 128kbps, 44000 on both.
I should specify what I mean by full original size.
Options --> Zoom ---> 100%
Also should specify I mean "when encoding select 320x240" MAXIMUM which will reduce the load on the cpu for video resizing.
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Why wouldn't you just encode it to the natural screen size, and why wouldn't it having to resize bigger rips slow it down?
This is a pretty strange post.. Walking a mile is easier than running a mile. Walking a mile with nothing on your back is easier than walking a mile with Yoda on your back.
Common sense
Hi,
How is the video performance of this HTC Diamond?
Do you still need to re-encode the video file?
Or you can throw in "regular" 700 MB Xvid video file and it will be played flawlessly?
Thanks.
So far I have not faced any problems in playing 700MB full movies I hve never re-encoded the video files I play it on TCPMP player.... hope it helps....
No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.
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No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.
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Well I wouldn't go that far. My hx4700 still outperforms the Diamond on hi-res videos. And I am using Raw Framebuffer, not the ATI switch on the hx4700. Using ATI is pretty much absolutely flawless except for the green tint bug.
Some videos fly on the Diamond, some are slow, some are real slow. Encoding methods really make the difference. Much more obvious on the Diamond.
I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.
Spuggi said:
I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.
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Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.
rscreen said:
Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.
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yep, exactly this message With core player i have only a purple image, no movie, tried with several file types. In Media Player i can play .mp4 files, but its really hard to convert everything before playing -.-
Coreplayer watching XVID's seems fine to me
also looks ace on a screen like this
The HTC default player as well as the WMP player in Diamond can both play MP4 videos encoded with H.264, the same codec that is supported by flash player 9 or later. The performance seems good so far. Haven't done any bench mark testing though.
YouTube works fine in Opera and the Streaming Manager app but in Coreplayer Mobile it just constantly brings up the loading symbol when selecting a video.
Anyone else have this or know a fix? I am on Jacks 1.3 Lite ROM with the YouTube registry fix installed.
That's strange. Youtube works for me in Coreplayer. I am also using Jack's Lite Rom 1.03. I did not try if it works in Opera though.
You got to activate networkaccess in corplayersettings for youtube
sweflo said:
You got to activate networkaccess in corplayersettings for youtube
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It is ticked already
I can't get Youtube to work in Streaming Media
Have you tried ticking flv box in the file extensions/
I got an email from CorePlayer makers saying there is a bug and they are fixing it in the next release
I have come across a problem with Coreplayer and its YouTube, so I have decided to use this thread instead of starting my own using the same title.
Coreplayer plays YouTube movies. No problem with that, even more it plays them in excelent quality (setting h264 medium quality, flv high bandwidth). But for some reason it cannot stop them. When the video is over the loading sign (rotating circle) appears and the screen freezes. After a couple of seconds I hear audio as if the video started to play all over again, but the screen is still frozen on that last frame. When I press any button the audio stops as well and that is that. There is no other solution than removing the battery, which annoys me greatly.
Does any of you have the same problem and have you been able to solve it? Coreplayer plays youtube with the highest quality by farand would really like to see it work properly.
Anybody else with this wierd Youtube problem?
Except that it freezes my phone like, every 5 minutes, it works fine i guess.
Too bad I have to reset my phone every time, because if i wouldnt had to, it would be a good piece of software.
Using Coreplayer 1.3 btw.
Well I am pretty disapointed as well. The video playback of original divx files is jerky and if I have to encode I might as well encode to a file media panel recognises. And now the youtube thing. There are still podcasts, I hope I will not come across a problem there.
huh?
i dont get it... my coreplayer plays youtube great, and divx great... i did have the youtube option dissapear mysteriously, but i re-enabled it in the network setting and its worked great ever since...
ive watched 2 movies in divx - one was a fast paced action movie and it played absolutely perfectly the whole time. maybe you need to have certain settings ticked, or maybe the fact that ive used the various tweaks in this forum to speed up my sd card, and to optimize my cache settings and such is helping...
more info may help resolve this...unfortunately i dont know much technical jargon.. i fiddle until things work.
I got my core working again with an update, but the standalone youtube player and panel is MUCH easier and better to use.
Hi, i work with an HTC Touch Pro 2 and on it with the newest CorePlayer. But i can not watch any Youtube Videos. I can search, and browse the different categories. But when i want to start a video the player gets back to the starting screen.
The "normal" video playback works fine.
Why? Anybody else with this problem?
PS: I have activated the network settings.
Youtube has made a change to how their protocol works. CoreCodec knows about the isue and they said they have alreay fixed it on an internal build. Sadly we will probably have to wait a very long time for the fix to be released.
here, some videos work, some others not, like the 70% of them, just try to open but stop downloading without image
Anybody else getting this problem again?Youtube videos stopped playing for me since tuesday,i'm running coreplayer 1.3.6 windows mobile.
Yes same her, my CorePlayer 1.3.6 stopped playing Youtube end of July.
Is there any update out there?
Yep, doesn't work...lame
Guys i recently installed coreplayer for xperia. The issue i faced is the video playback is not upto the mark. Its kinda jerky and stops skips videos in between and not smooth.
Has anyone faced this issue with X1 by the way my friend has omnia and the same verison of coreplayer installed on his cell but the video playback is perfect without any skips.
same here...bought x1 5 days ago tried everything and that piece of crap doesnt work same as coreplayer :/ i downloaded the Video...Encoding...GUI_Full.HD stuff which converts video...converted one but the movie on X1 doesnt look like a movie !! it looks like a slideshow but guess what windows media player plays this video Perfectly...written by the big P so im asking wtf ??
the X1 does have some performance issues. this has been discussed several times in the past
the omnia performs a lot better because it has a much faster CPU and because the resolution is 1/4th of that of the xperia so it does not need to work as hard to get smooth playback
core player doesnt support x1 hardware acceleration... thats the main problem there
ok ok but what to do ? im playing aroung with it from the day i bought it and nothing that i tried helped and im a bit frustrated :/ i dont wanna use wmp
Maybe you should get an IPhooon its click and play no hussle and stuff no need to tweak and every thing works (well every thing that comes with it)
install custom rom... gfx booster... convert videos with tool posted here on forums and play them in media panel... no lag at all...
Media panel and converted movies is best solution. And no, you don't need custom rom.
Crystal player is just useless. Yeah, it's sad.
well thats wierd, i play 700mb highres avi files on coreplayer without any problem, maybe its the videos you try to play..? i only face lagging with flv files.
btw i have stock uk r3aa010
I found that some people find 80% speed 'perfect'. I can spot single dropped frame.
Run benchmark a post the results, subjective value is meaningless.
And yes, of course, it does depend on the movie. I play most of the 700mb movies under 90%.
i have not had any problems with coreplayer either....
The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
sandy2810 said:
The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
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1-Use HTC Touch HD video converter
2-Play your converted video with windows player or the media panel
3-Have fun
I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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Me neither. 80% is what I usually get as speed with 1.3.2. Btw this DVD-Rip may be some small resolution, like 640x272.
I just don't get it, such a good phone with such a lousy movie playing capabilities.
OK... here's the facts.
It's all about perception. Some individuals can watch a movie that displays at 24fps (frames per second, which is the standard) and see a perfectly smooth movie. The brains fills in the gaps between each image and creates the illusion of full motion.
Some lucky individuals can look at a movie playing at 20fps and still see a smooth movie while most of us will perceive it as jerky.
Some unlucky individuals (myself included) find anything less than 30 fps to be jerky.
And finally. Coreplayer + xvid files do not use the acceleration feature of the chipset hence the standard *cough* downloaded tv show will usually be and 624 x 352 with a 912Kbps bit rate (These are average stats)
Will run at about 80%-85% framerate on your X1 giving you a fps of about 20fps.
If you reenconde using the sticky programme GUI you can play the same file at 100% USING ONLY WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER/MEDIAL PANEL!!! (coreplayer will still run it at 85% ish)
Yes .. I just want those people who can watch movies at 80% to realize how lucky they are
Well, there has been so many threads on this subject...
I don't see where the problem is to use Windows Media Player to watch a movie, it's just perfect. Files that cannot be opened by WMP (like flv for example) can be opened with CorePlayer, that's nice.
I don't want to hurt anybody, but maybe people whose mind totally deny this very simple concept should may be go to see a psy We have the right tools, they work perfectly, so why do you want to re-invent the wheel ?
Well most people want to watch AVI movies .. and those are not watchable in WMP and jerky in CorePlayer. If you don't want to watch them, good for you.
This is a great place!
I have been reading all the threads that might have anything to do with video playback.
I've installed those 3D drivers and graphics were improved on that hologram thing and "light 3d"
Still, video playback is choppy and im grinding my teeth seeing it!
I have converted videos in all kinds of formats in all kids of FPS and KBPS and kept VGA resolution and still no use.
Have i missed something?
thanks!!
what media player are you using dude? ive been using TCMP for the longest time and i have no problems on playing my videos/movies...
i tried using the built in windows media player, coreplayer, and i have used tcpmp once but the bottom taskbar was black so i didnt know what problem that program had.
anyways, the tcpmp didnt play smooth. maybe i had a bad version?
Have you tried viewing some other content other than your own converted files? try using the attached sample avi with all 3 players and see how that goes.
ive tried the videos that came with the phone.
windows media player handles videos much better than coreplayer but still no smooth video.
this is weird, on other ppc's that ive had (a few) coreplayer/tcpmp played videos much better than wmp.
over here its the exact opposite.
how come?
what ROM are you using?
original ROM that came with the diamond.
in my case its 2.o3
israel orange
help? anyone?
I don't know anyone here who is on the same ROM. you could try upgrading the ROM??
what ROM should i use?
can i extract the hebrew that comes with the ROM currently on my diamond?
i kinda need it
well of course that the built in WMP will play the video smoother than the core player. It`s because only WMP can use the hardware accelerator in the phone.
still the core player don`t have the proper drivers to access to the GPU.
ya it plays smoother, but still not smooth.
and theres all this tearing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-481714.html
make sure you use qtv
With TCPMP set Video to GDI.
i installed tcpmp and when i ran it it came up with a message "crashed"
and it won't run.
i used Qtv with the coreplayer and it was still slugish
Be sure you use the version on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519543&highlight=TCPMP
It works great on my Diamond.
Ive installed a tcpmp from another thread from this forum.
It works and plays videos but its still slugish.
Is there a patch or a fix i was supposed to install?
Smooth video playback
Hi all,
I was having problems with jerky video playback.
I did some searching and found this link-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
It works a treat really smooth and in 640 480
WELL DONE
I saw this too...
It doesn't play smooth on my device.
still, this is the program i use to convert video if i wanna play something on my diamond
even tho it stinks (the diamond not the program!)
Hi idandavid,
PM me your email and I will send you a mov video of my Diamond playing a smooth video.
Or send me a video, I will conver it and try playing it on my Diamond. I can then send you the converted file to compare on your Diamond.
Hope this helps
Grez