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What video settings work (all rants off please :) )

I think most of the active members are aware of the video difficulties SO please (please, please) turn your rants off for this thread. What I am trying to find is a combination of settings that DO work.
My preferred codec is MP4.
From some suggestions in other threads, I have tried these encoding settings.
Screen resolution: 320x240
Frames Per Second: 30
Kbps: 300
Audio codec: [email protected]
...and I am playing back on TCPMP 0.72RC1 using these settings
Options/Video: Raw FrameBuffer
Options/Video/Dither: Off
Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: Auto
Options/Settings/Advanced/Slow Video Memory: On
Options/Settings/Buffering/Preload at Underrun: 85%
Using this, all I get for video is about 1 frame every 3 seconds. Audio is fine.
So can anyone add this this for getting MP4 to work?
Do I need to use a different codec? If so, I would prefer something other then AVI, since I have a mixed environment. Does anyone have suggestions on the best cross platform Codec, that has work well on the Kaiser?

I'd be interested in this too. I can play back videos taken from the video camera flawlessly but when trying to encode them to the same MP4 codec they can get choppy. Not sure what gives :0

Using WMV here
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.

You might want to follow this thread... seams that the Core Player is attacking this known problem for the Tilt. I'm by no means an expert on this, but seems like the Qualcomm QTV technology for the video has some issues:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0

I use PDXE, Lathe, and a few others to encode Divx videos at 320x240 video quality at "28" audio in stereo at 96 or 128k MP3 with a total bitrate under 500k (usually shoot for 475kbps). If the encoder allows it, for portable video I bump the audio volume by 15% and I increase brightness as well. To me most movies look darker on the small screen. If cropping is allowed I crop widescreen content, cutting off some of the sides of the picture to get closer to the 3:4 ratio of PDA screen. I also like to turn the brightness down as much as possible to increase battery life so the bump in brightness helps there as well. An average movie 1:50 length is about 480MB
I've used Core and TCPMP (currently using TCPMP for the youtube capability) and use Rawframe buffer as well. I'm sure that Core 1.2 will make things even better.
I get 30FPS and normal fluid video, looks like my other 8525, hx4700, and Archos 320 and 400 units with crisp clear video, no complaints.

This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only the phone???
Flying Kiwi said:
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
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This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
I have an TiLt and when i try to record videos on my phone in MP4, it appears to work fine and i can play it back on my phone using TCPMP. but when i try to run this on my computer rnning vista it only shows video with no sound.
What can be causing this, is there a way to fix this and has anyone else noticed this..
ps. i hope ths has not been spoken about b4, i hate sounding like a nubie

zulualpha7 said:
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
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There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.

recorded videos on Tilt not playing on vista with sound!! I GOT IT FIXXX
Flying Kiwi said:
There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
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Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...

if you want an mp4 player on your pc for free, go to nokia.com

zulualpha7 said:
Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
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MANY THANKS! zulualpha7,
I have had the error 2041 problem for a long time and have never been able to play vids recorded on my TyTn II on my PC.
I almost installed various codec packs as other forum members have done but after reading about potential problems of having multiple codecs for same file type and upsetting the system I decided not to do this.
I have some really important 'once in a lifetime' family moments like my friend's son catching his first fish etc... I though they were all lost for ever.
I just downloaded latest Quicktime and renamed file extensions to ".3gp" like you said and now I can watch everything!!!!
Thank you so much this really has been a big improvement for me.
ONCE AGAIN THIS FORUM ROCKS! Thanks to everyone for so much fantastic helpful info.

Which Mediaplayer for Diamond ?

Hi,
which mediaplayer is best for the diamond, or in other words, which support the video accelerator chip (QTv ?). Today I installed Nero Media Player Pro, but it either failed to render TV-Rips (std.~350mb only 1-2sec playback) or very chunky playback of 320h mov files/trailers. Obviously no support of the QTv here.

jones23 said:
Hi,
which mediaplayer is best for the diamond, or in other words, which support the video accelerator chip (QTv ?). Today I installed Nero Media Player Pro, but it either failed to render TV-Rips (std.~350mb only 1-2sec playback) or very chunky playback of 320h mov files/trailers. Obviously no support of the QTv here.
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well sheer power wise, TCPMP is the best media player for any mobile platform but i doubt that it supports the accelerometer and the interface isn't exaclty finer freindly.

Try coreplayer

I've been using coreplayer as well... works great, no conversion needed really... pretty much plays everything...

I'd agree that TCPMP is best for me
I have found that running movies through PocketDivXEncoder first improves the view. I need to test the settings a bit more but video quality between 14 and 20 at full resolution looks great so far (audio 6 or 7)

thanks for your recommendations, will try them.
does any of those support upnp ? like to stream some videofiles from my nas box. therefore reencoding first to divx isn't really an option for me..
btw. while playing around with mediaplayers and wifi today, I burned the battery within TWO hours

Yeah. CorePlayer FTW! I hate TCPMP. CorePlayer is the best media player (video wise). Totally worth paying for. I'd suggest Conduit's Pocket Player for audio files or S2P.
Kraize

I got Core player and at first before i had the Elite 2.0 ROM it was playing really bad.
Now, For example, i have the last 2 episodes of the latest Doctor Who Series on my diamond and it plays them ReallY well. Its in Sync and its top quality video. I love the VGA screen!!
NOT: These are Xvids that are 500-600MB each so they havent been re-encoded

Hum I have bought coreplayer 1.2.5, if I see a film with the diamond native resolution, it is very slow. Is it normal ?
No problem with the resolution 240*320 but we have a very beautiful screen I would like to see my film on 480*640

Have a full avi rip here of a anime series and TCMP is really crap, it lags, choppy playbacks and freezes then plays. I really dont know how you guys are using it. I am using elite 3.0 and i did try it also on standard manufactures it was the same.

MichaelMan said:
Now, For example, i have the last 2 episodes of the latest Doctor Who Series on my diamond and it plays them ReallY well. Its in Sync and its top quality video. I love the VGA screen!!
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Which version and what settings of Core Player are you using ?
The resolution of the videos is more or less 640x480 ?
I tried like Diagorn the Core Player 1.2.5 and a lot of settings, but on my diamond high quality videos are really slow (the sound is ok, but images is like slideshow)

@yodjar
that is exactly what is happening to me the file itself is around 170mb and its about 22 mins long. Plays beutiful using my p.c and my universal (xda exec) and any other p.c with anything that can play the avi. Please post a solution here if you find one people who seem to have it working dont seem to say how it works it just does.

Nobody ?
I can't understand why this thing doesn't interest ppl more...

I have problems to see some videos
First Sorry for my english I am using a Traslatos then I correct it.
I had moved my videos that I have in my old Eten X800 to the Diamond, most of them can not see but heard, including some filmed with a Photograph camera or with the Eten. That may be happening? I am using the CorePlayer but the same thing happens with some in the Window Media Player 1.2.1 for Arm, with the same Core Player I can see the videos in the Eten.
Thanks Carlos

Player
Yes, Core player is better than TCPMP player I think since I told some videos using y canon ixus 60 and it wouldn't play on the window media player and on TCPMp is jerky but core player is very smooth.

Kiwi_hknz said:
Yes, Core player is better than TCPMP player I think since I told some videos using y canon ixus 60 and it wouldn't play on the window media player and on TCPMp is jerky but core player is very smooth.
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There's a separate thread somewhere about supporting the Qtv chip on the Diamond - have a search if I don't find it before you.

Video performance

Hi,
How is the video performance of this HTC Diamond?
Do you still need to re-encode the video file?
Or you can throw in "regular" 700 MB Xvid video file and it will be played flawlessly?
Thanks.

So far I have not faced any problems in playing 700MB full movies I hve never re-encoded the video files I play it on TCPMP player.... hope it helps....

No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.

Usper said:
No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.
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Well I wouldn't go that far. My hx4700 still outperforms the Diamond on hi-res videos. And I am using Raw Framebuffer, not the ATI switch on the hx4700. Using ATI is pretty much absolutely flawless except for the green tint bug.
Some videos fly on the Diamond, some are slow, some are real slow. Encoding methods really make the difference. Much more obvious on the Diamond.

I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.

Spuggi said:
I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.
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Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.

rscreen said:
Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.
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yep, exactly this message With core player i have only a purple image, no movie, tried with several file types. In Media Player i can play .mp4 files, but its really hard to convert everything before playing -.-

Coreplayer watching XVID's seems fine to me
also looks ace on a screen like this

The HTC default player as well as the WMP player in Diamond can both play MP4 videos encoded with H.264, the same codec that is supported by flash player 9 or later. The performance seems good so far. Haven't done any bench mark testing though.

what do i have to do to get smooth video?

This is a great place!
I have been reading all the threads that might have anything to do with video playback.
I've installed those 3D drivers and graphics were improved on that hologram thing and "light 3d"
Still, video playback is choppy and im grinding my teeth seeing it!
I have converted videos in all kinds of formats in all kids of FPS and KBPS and kept VGA resolution and still no use.
Have i missed something?
thanks!!

what media player are you using dude? ive been using TCMP for the longest time and i have no problems on playing my videos/movies...

i tried using the built in windows media player, coreplayer, and i have used tcpmp once but the bottom taskbar was black so i didnt know what problem that program had.
anyways, the tcpmp didnt play smooth. maybe i had a bad version?

Have you tried viewing some other content other than your own converted files? try using the attached sample avi with all 3 players and see how that goes.

ive tried the videos that came with the phone.
windows media player handles videos much better than coreplayer but still no smooth video.
this is weird, on other ppc's that ive had (a few) coreplayer/tcpmp played videos much better than wmp.
over here its the exact opposite.
how come?

what ROM are you using?

original ROM that came with the diamond.
in my case its 2.o3
israel orange

help? anyone?

I don't know anyone here who is on the same ROM. you could try upgrading the ROM??

what ROM should i use?
can i extract the hebrew that comes with the ROM currently on my diamond?
i kinda need it

well of course that the built in WMP will play the video smoother than the core player. It`s because only WMP can use the hardware accelerator in the phone.
still the core player don`t have the proper drivers to access to the GPU.

ya it plays smoother, but still not smooth.
and theres all this tearing.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-481714.html
make sure you use qtv

With TCPMP set Video to GDI.

i installed tcpmp and when i ran it it came up with a message "crashed"
and it won't run.
i used Qtv with the coreplayer and it was still slugish

Be sure you use the version on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519543&highlight=TCPMP
It works great on my Diamond.

Ive installed a tcpmp from another thread from this forum.
It works and plays videos but its still slugish.
Is there a patch or a fix i was supposed to install?

Smooth video playback
Hi all,
I was having problems with jerky video playback.
I did some searching and found this link-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
It works a treat really smooth and in 640 480
WELL DONE

I saw this too...
It doesn't play smooth on my device.
still, this is the program i use to convert video if i wanna play something on my diamond
even tho it stinks (the diamond not the program!)

Hi idandavid,
PM me your email and I will send you a mov video of my Diamond playing a smooth video.
Or send me a video, I will conver it and try playing it on my Diamond. I can then send you the converted file to compare on your Diamond.
Hope this helps
Grez

Really laggy video playback..

I've speed tweaked my X1, but it still has really choppy video playback.
I'm using Core Player 1.2.5, are there any settings I need to change for smooth playback?

maybe using coreplayer 1.3.2 will speed it up a little?

Can I upgrade from 1.2.5 to 1.3.2 free?
Also, I remember someone saying something about changing the settings on it to play it smoother..

Ib hate to be "Captain Obvious", but why don't you convert your files to mp4 and watch them with WMP. Coreplayer is not hardware accelerated.

though coreplayer is not hw accelerated, i could always watch movies on my xperia without converting any vids. Never had stuttering. i always watch movies when i have cold hands, since the xperia did a double duty as a heater.

This is reality for the Xperia.
Upgrading Coreplayer
"Trying" TCPMP (won't work)
Different ROMs (custom or updated stock)
NONE of them will work. NONE of them! People kept promising me these things might help; guess what, it didn't help AT ALL.
The fact of the matter is, is that Coreplayer, nor any other player on Xperia other than WMP (Windows Media Player) is hardware accelerated, so you will NOT get decent performance.
However, in order to watch on WMP, you must convert to MP4. What a major pain in the ass.
As I've stated before, this is by far the most critical drawback to all HTC/Xperia devices and I don't see myself purchasing another device similarly- based on this fact.

stisev said:
This is reality for the Xperia.
Upgrading Coreplayer
"Trying" TCPMP (won't work)
Different ROMs (custom or updated stock)
NONE of them will work. NONE of them! People kept promising me these things might help; guess what, it didn't help AT ALL.
The fact of the matter is, is that Coreplayer, nor any other player on Xperia other than WMP (Windows Media Player) is hardware accelerated, so you will NOT get decent performance.
However, in order to watch on WMP, you must convert to MP4. What a major pain in the ass.
As I've stated before, this is by far the most critical drawback to all HTC/Xperia devices and I don't see myself purchasing another device similarly- based on this fact.
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X2 is promising to have out-of-the-box xvid/divx support from media panel. I hope that they'll umitilize HW acceleration for these formats too. If so, maybe X1 will have that support in some new custom roms. Time will show.
But right now, either convert to mp4 and use WMP, or watch with lags (if it is a standard xvid/divx rip, played on coreplayer on high quality).

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X2 is promising to have out-of-the-box xvid/divx support from media panel. I hope that they'll umitilize HW acceleration for these formats too. If so, maybe X1 will have that support in some new custom roms. Time will show.
But right now, either convert to mp4 and use WMP, or watch with lags (if it is a standard xvid/divx rip, played on coreplayer on high quality).
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What does that mean? From media panel?
I. just. want. to. play. videos. using. Coreplayer. or TCPMP. like. my. 5 year old Dell Axim X51v!!!

i cant get a decent quality video to play on my xperia smoothly. Spent ages trying and just have given up now and since sony wouldnt help me at all i can assure them i wont be getting the x2

comeradealexi said:
i cant get a decent quality video to play on my xperia smoothly. Spent ages trying and just have given up now and since sony wouldnt help me at all i can assure them i wont be getting the x2
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Exactly. I had the same problem. What's even more bizarre is that some people (even some senior members) were telling me they had no problems. WTF? I mean, how is that possible. The lag is definitely there and noticeable!
I will vote with my money. The X1 is a godsend device. Thinner, bigger screen, get rid of optical and give a X51v-stye Dpad, better camera, image stabilization, real VGA recording, reasonable price, ATI video drivers and we have a winner!

As was said million times, only way how to play movies reasonably is to convert them and play using media panel or WMP.
Core player won't work except for very low bitrate movies, and for those lucky people who don't see every dropped frame as I do.

could i get a link to a really smooth wm4 converter and what is the best settings for smoothest playback?

royalbloodvi said:
could i get a link to a really smooth wm4 converter and what is the best settings for smoothest playback?
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It's on the first page..... Last "sticky" thread.....

am i able to convert thru my xperia, or only through pc?

Only on the PC. I am not aware of any coverters that work on the ppc itself. The processors of mobile devices haven't been fast enough for such a procedure, until recently.

i play wmv on WMP and it doesnt seem to be hardware accelerated. its laggy.

wmv is crap. Use MP4 as it has already been said in many threads !

The problem of video lag is only with video taken from camera.
But check my X1 (silver) and another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVCLTOLnOkI
The solution is R1a.
It take less ram (with same configuration) and has powerful performance with video (also scrolling menu etc).
But it needs to fix more thing, like radio, mxp (from r3 is better) etc.

so the top one is r1a?

Yes, R1a with R3a mxp.
Bottom is R3a with r3a mxp.
I try to port r1a driver into r3a, but video palyback is broken.
So the only way is reflash r1a firmware, and made some customization (like radio, camera etc).