I've speed tweaked my X1, but it still has really choppy video playback.
I'm using Core Player 1.2.5, are there any settings I need to change for smooth playback?
maybe using coreplayer 1.3.2 will speed it up a little?
Can I upgrade from 1.2.5 to 1.3.2 free?
Also, I remember someone saying something about changing the settings on it to play it smoother..
Ib hate to be "Captain Obvious", but why don't you convert your files to mp4 and watch them with WMP. Coreplayer is not hardware accelerated.
though coreplayer is not hw accelerated, i could always watch movies on my xperia without converting any vids. Never had stuttering. i always watch movies when i have cold hands, since the xperia did a double duty as a heater.
This is reality for the Xperia.
Upgrading Coreplayer
"Trying" TCPMP (won't work)
Different ROMs (custom or updated stock)
NONE of them will work. NONE of them! People kept promising me these things might help; guess what, it didn't help AT ALL.
The fact of the matter is, is that Coreplayer, nor any other player on Xperia other than WMP (Windows Media Player) is hardware accelerated, so you will NOT get decent performance.
However, in order to watch on WMP, you must convert to MP4. What a major pain in the ass.
As I've stated before, this is by far the most critical drawback to all HTC/Xperia devices and I don't see myself purchasing another device similarly- based on this fact.
stisev said:
This is reality for the Xperia.
Upgrading Coreplayer
"Trying" TCPMP (won't work)
Different ROMs (custom or updated stock)
NONE of them will work. NONE of them! People kept promising me these things might help; guess what, it didn't help AT ALL.
The fact of the matter is, is that Coreplayer, nor any other player on Xperia other than WMP (Windows Media Player) is hardware accelerated, so you will NOT get decent performance.
However, in order to watch on WMP, you must convert to MP4. What a major pain in the ass.
As I've stated before, this is by far the most critical drawback to all HTC/Xperia devices and I don't see myself purchasing another device similarly- based on this fact.
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X2 is promising to have out-of-the-box xvid/divx support from media panel. I hope that they'll umitilize HW acceleration for these formats too. If so, maybe X1 will have that support in some new custom roms. Time will show.
But right now, either convert to mp4 and use WMP, or watch with lags (if it is a standard xvid/divx rip, played on coreplayer on high quality).
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X2 is promising to have out-of-the-box xvid/divx support from media panel. I hope that they'll umitilize HW acceleration for these formats too. If so, maybe X1 will have that support in some new custom roms. Time will show.
But right now, either convert to mp4 and use WMP, or watch with lags (if it is a standard xvid/divx rip, played on coreplayer on high quality).
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What does that mean? From media panel?
I. just. want. to. play. videos. using. Coreplayer. or TCPMP. like. my. 5 year old Dell Axim X51v!!!
i cant get a decent quality video to play on my xperia smoothly. Spent ages trying and just have given up now and since sony wouldnt help me at all i can assure them i wont be getting the x2
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i cant get a decent quality video to play on my xperia smoothly. Spent ages trying and just have given up now and since sony wouldnt help me at all i can assure them i wont be getting the x2
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Exactly. I had the same problem. What's even more bizarre is that some people (even some senior members) were telling me they had no problems. WTF? I mean, how is that possible. The lag is definitely there and noticeable!
I will vote with my money. The X1 is a godsend device. Thinner, bigger screen, get rid of optical and give a X51v-stye Dpad, better camera, image stabilization, real VGA recording, reasonable price, ATI video drivers and we have a winner!
As was said million times, only way how to play movies reasonably is to convert them and play using media panel or WMP.
Core player won't work except for very low bitrate movies, and for those lucky people who don't see every dropped frame as I do.
could i get a link to a really smooth wm4 converter and what is the best settings for smoothest playback?
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could i get a link to a really smooth wm4 converter and what is the best settings for smoothest playback?
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It's on the first page..... Last "sticky" thread.....
am i able to convert thru my xperia, or only through pc?
Only on the PC. I am not aware of any coverters that work on the ppc itself. The processors of mobile devices haven't been fast enough for such a procedure, until recently.
i play wmv on WMP and it doesnt seem to be hardware accelerated. its laggy.
wmv is crap. Use MP4 as it has already been said in many threads !
The problem of video lag is only with video taken from camera.
But check my X1 (silver) and another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVCLTOLnOkI
The solution is R1a.
It take less ram (with same configuration) and has powerful performance with video (also scrolling menu etc).
But it needs to fix more thing, like radio, mxp (from r3 is better) etc.
so the top one is r1a?
Yes, R1a with R3a mxp.
Bottom is R3a with r3a mxp.
I try to port r1a driver into r3a, but video palyback is broken.
So the only way is reflash r1a firmware, and made some customization (like radio, camera etc).
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I've got a Tilt and recently copied over some movies that I had for my Blackjack and my Curve. For whatever reason, with TCPMP, they don't look nearly as good on my phone. There's a lot more noise in the picture with artifacts and pixelation, etc., plus the picture is not very smooth... low FPS I'm guessing.
I'm going to re-encode all of these but I'd like to get some opinions on what the best video bit-rate, fps, audio bit-rate would be for this. I was doing 320x240 at around 220Kbps, 24FPS and 64Kbps for audio. What should I increase/decrease?
Thanks!
Welcome to the multimedai hell of the Kaiser/Tilt
Your problem probably is the same problem we all have with the Kiaser/Tilt displaying video. The drivers are not available for smooth smooth video display, neither in games nor multimedia.
You may try to tweak your source media using diff bitrates etc, I have done so, and even then experience tearing, lockups, pixelation, and tons of dropped frames.
I encourage you to sign the petition asking HTC to fix this problem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500
Otherwise, even the best tweaking and re-transcoding of the source media does not help much at all as far as I can see.
If you encode at 320x240 with audio at 96k or 128k with a total bitrate under 500k it will play great on Kaiser with TCPMP. I've encoded at this rate for Archos boxes and ViPods and my vids look good and play well on all.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll try that out and cross my fingers...
I tried video podcasts downloaded from iTunes. These are in MPEG4 format and when played with the builtin PMP10, audio and video are not in sync. It really takes the joy out from the experience when you can't just download the video files directly to your Kaiser but have to re-encode them on a PC first.
Yeah I was quite surprised to find how unimpressive the playback was. I came from in iPhone, then a Blackjack, and lastly a Curve. They all seemed to play video pretty well and what's odd is that the Blackjack was one of the best - with WM5... go figure...
IMHO nothing can beat the iPhone in video playback quality but since I need a few other things in my phone, I had to ditch it.
For a $750 phone, its pretty disappointing that my T680 can do a better job of displaying a video than the kaiser. I just signed that petition and hopefully something will be done about this.
Wonder if the other HTC's have the same problem. Or this is just an isolated case with the kaiser?
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For a $750 phone, its pretty disappointing that my T680 can do a better job of displaying a video than the kaiser. I just signed that petition and hopefully something will be done about this.
Wonder if the other HTC's have the same problem. Or this is just an isolated case with the kaiser?
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The problem is only related to phones that have the Qualcomm 7200 CPU, which is the kaiser, touch dual and maybe the touch cruise, the dual plays videos very badly to and even dragging solitaire cards around the screen it's very stuttery
My original touch however does everything very smoothly using it's 201mhz omap 850 cpu, can play videos with bitrates up to 600k without stuttering
HTC need to get these bloody drivers out
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which mediaplayer is best for the diamond, or in other words, which support the video accelerator chip (QTv ?). Today I installed Nero Media Player Pro, but it either failed to render TV-Rips (std.~350mb only 1-2sec playback) or very chunky playback of 320h mov files/trailers. Obviously no support of the QTv here.
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Hi,
which mediaplayer is best for the diamond, or in other words, which support the video accelerator chip (QTv ?). Today I installed Nero Media Player Pro, but it either failed to render TV-Rips (std.~350mb only 1-2sec playback) or very chunky playback of 320h mov files/trailers. Obviously no support of the QTv here.
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well sheer power wise, TCPMP is the best media player for any mobile platform but i doubt that it supports the accelerometer and the interface isn't exaclty finer freindly.
Try coreplayer
I've been using coreplayer as well... works great, no conversion needed really... pretty much plays everything...
I'd agree that TCPMP is best for me
I have found that running movies through PocketDivXEncoder first improves the view. I need to test the settings a bit more but video quality between 14 and 20 at full resolution looks great so far (audio 6 or 7)
thanks for your recommendations, will try them.
does any of those support upnp ? like to stream some videofiles from my nas box. therefore reencoding first to divx isn't really an option for me..
btw. while playing around with mediaplayers and wifi today, I burned the battery within TWO hours
Yeah. CorePlayer FTW! I hate TCPMP. CorePlayer is the best media player (video wise). Totally worth paying for. I'd suggest Conduit's Pocket Player for audio files or S2P.
Kraize
I got Core player and at first before i had the Elite 2.0 ROM it was playing really bad.
Now, For example, i have the last 2 episodes of the latest Doctor Who Series on my diamond and it plays them ReallY well. Its in Sync and its top quality video. I love the VGA screen!!
NOT: These are Xvids that are 500-600MB each so they havent been re-encoded
Hum I have bought coreplayer 1.2.5, if I see a film with the diamond native resolution, it is very slow. Is it normal ?
No problem with the resolution 240*320 but we have a very beautiful screen I would like to see my film on 480*640
Have a full avi rip here of a anime series and TCMP is really crap, it lags, choppy playbacks and freezes then plays. I really dont know how you guys are using it. I am using elite 3.0 and i did try it also on standard manufactures it was the same.
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Now, For example, i have the last 2 episodes of the latest Doctor Who Series on my diamond and it plays them ReallY well. Its in Sync and its top quality video. I love the VGA screen!!
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Which version and what settings of Core Player are you using ?
The resolution of the videos is more or less 640x480 ?
I tried like Diagorn the Core Player 1.2.5 and a lot of settings, but on my diamond high quality videos are really slow (the sound is ok, but images is like slideshow)
@yodjar
that is exactly what is happening to me the file itself is around 170mb and its about 22 mins long. Plays beutiful using my p.c and my universal (xda exec) and any other p.c with anything that can play the avi. Please post a solution here if you find one people who seem to have it working dont seem to say how it works it just does.
Nobody ?
I can't understand why this thing doesn't interest ppl more...
I have problems to see some videos
First Sorry for my english I am using a Traslatos then I correct it.
I had moved my videos that I have in my old Eten X800 to the Diamond, most of them can not see but heard, including some filmed with a Photograph camera or with the Eten. That may be happening? I am using the CorePlayer but the same thing happens with some in the Window Media Player 1.2.1 for Arm, with the same Core Player I can see the videos in the Eten.
Thanks Carlos
Player
Yes, Core player is better than TCPMP player I think since I told some videos using y canon ixus 60 and it wouldn't play on the window media player and on TCPMp is jerky but core player is very smooth.
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Yes, Core player is better than TCPMP player I think since I told some videos using y canon ixus 60 and it wouldn't play on the window media player and on TCPMp is jerky but core player is very smooth.
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There's a separate thread somewhere about supporting the Qtv chip on the Diamond - have a search if I don't find it before you.
There seem to be loads of flavours of TCPMP floating around but ive yet to find one that does all Im after ....
What im after is the holy grail of video playback, a player that plays:
AVI
MPG
FLV ('all types')
MP4
The versions Ive tried play some FLVs but not others, or AVI but not MPEG.
The version i currently use is GF5500 but its will only play half the FLVs i try - plus it tears a lot on AVI (is this a hardware limitation of the touchpro ?).
Any suggestions ??
The last few phones i have had managed to play most video (the N95 was very good at that) so Im sure that the Touch Pro MUST have the capability for smooth playback surely
Use the cab at the bottom of the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
cheers ... but that was one of the ones i tried before - doesnt play mpeg 4 v2 (according to msg i get) and still doesnt play half my FLVs
unless im doing something wrong - which i wouldnt rule out at all
used to run tcpmp 0.82 on my previous Trinity device, not very impressed with it though (could be the slow, older device though).
not sure I can answer your q.
I use CorePlayer, latest build.
Ditto, I use the latest Core Payer and it plays all my video files including all my flvs. There's an flv plug-in for the TCPMP that I never had any problems with either, but I was happy to pay the developers for the commercial product after using their free player for years of viewing pleasure.
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cheers ... but that was one of the ones i tried before - doesnt play mpeg 4 v2 (according to msg i get) and still doesnt play half my FLVs
unless im doing something wrong - which i wouldnt rule out at all
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TCPMP may not meet all your needs. The link I pointed to seems to be the the best I've found for WM6.1 stability etc. Not sure if you mean WMV9 when you say mpeg4 v2 but if so, you can extend TCPMP funtionality by dropping WM5 codecs into your windows folder.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298126
I also use Coreplayer but keep TCPMP around as I find it best with Orb. Both will play the few .flv clips that I've pulled down from YouTube.
Keep in mind that on Raphael, WMP and HTC Album have access to h/w acceleration in the Qualcomm chipset, and run rings around CorePlayer and TCPMP for supported MP4 formats, including H.264.
We can only hope that CorePlayer will open their wallets to Qualcomm. I, for one, would pay for an upgrade (to my existing corePlayer license).
Cheers
Guys i recently installed coreplayer for xperia. The issue i faced is the video playback is not upto the mark. Its kinda jerky and stops skips videos in between and not smooth.
Has anyone faced this issue with X1 by the way my friend has omnia and the same verison of coreplayer installed on his cell but the video playback is perfect without any skips.
same here...bought x1 5 days ago tried everything and that piece of crap doesnt work same as coreplayer :/ i downloaded the Video...Encoding...GUI_Full.HD stuff which converts video...converted one but the movie on X1 doesnt look like a movie !! it looks like a slideshow but guess what windows media player plays this video Perfectly...written by the big P so im asking wtf ??
the X1 does have some performance issues. this has been discussed several times in the past
the omnia performs a lot better because it has a much faster CPU and because the resolution is 1/4th of that of the xperia so it does not need to work as hard to get smooth playback
core player doesnt support x1 hardware acceleration... thats the main problem there
ok ok but what to do ? im playing aroung with it from the day i bought it and nothing that i tried helped and im a bit frustrated :/ i dont wanna use wmp
Maybe you should get an IPhooon its click and play no hussle and stuff no need to tweak and every thing works (well every thing that comes with it)
install custom rom... gfx booster... convert videos with tool posted here on forums and play them in media panel... no lag at all...
Media panel and converted movies is best solution. And no, you don't need custom rom.
Crystal player is just useless. Yeah, it's sad.
well thats wierd, i play 700mb highres avi files on coreplayer without any problem, maybe its the videos you try to play..? i only face lagging with flv files.
btw i have stock uk r3aa010
I found that some people find 80% speed 'perfect'. I can spot single dropped frame.
Run benchmark a post the results, subjective value is meaningless.
And yes, of course, it does depend on the movie. I play most of the 700mb movies under 90%.
i have not had any problems with coreplayer either....
The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
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The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
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1-Use HTC Touch HD video converter
2-Play your converted video with windows player or the media panel
3-Have fun
I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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Me neither. 80% is what I usually get as speed with 1.3.2. Btw this DVD-Rip may be some small resolution, like 640x272.
I just don't get it, such a good phone with such a lousy movie playing capabilities.
OK... here's the facts.
It's all about perception. Some individuals can watch a movie that displays at 24fps (frames per second, which is the standard) and see a perfectly smooth movie. The brains fills in the gaps between each image and creates the illusion of full motion.
Some lucky individuals can look at a movie playing at 20fps and still see a smooth movie while most of us will perceive it as jerky.
Some unlucky individuals (myself included) find anything less than 30 fps to be jerky.
And finally. Coreplayer + xvid files do not use the acceleration feature of the chipset hence the standard *cough* downloaded tv show will usually be and 624 x 352 with a 912Kbps bit rate (These are average stats)
Will run at about 80%-85% framerate on your X1 giving you a fps of about 20fps.
If you reenconde using the sticky programme GUI you can play the same file at 100% USING ONLY WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER/MEDIAL PANEL!!! (coreplayer will still run it at 85% ish)
Yes .. I just want those people who can watch movies at 80% to realize how lucky they are
Well, there has been so many threads on this subject...
I don't see where the problem is to use Windows Media Player to watch a movie, it's just perfect. Files that cannot be opened by WMP (like flv for example) can be opened with CorePlayer, that's nice.
I don't want to hurt anybody, but maybe people whose mind totally deny this very simple concept should may be go to see a psy We have the right tools, they work perfectly, so why do you want to re-invent the wheel ?
Well most people want to watch AVI movies .. and those are not watchable in WMP and jerky in CorePlayer. If you don't want to watch them, good for you.
Hi, I'm considering an X1 and have two pretty quick and specific questions:
1) With the higher resolution of the touch screen, I've heard this can make things appear smaller and more difficult to use with just thumb/finger rather than a stylus. Is there truth to this, or can it be used easily with finger only?
2) As it's manufactured by HTC for SE, does it suffer from the infamous "disabled video drivers" issue that so many other HTC-branded phones are known for, or does it play video smoothly?
Thanks to anyone who can help with these questions...
1) Smaller yes, but not necessarily more difficult. How finger friendly a phone is depends much more on the design of the UI. WM6.1, which the phone comes with isn't the best at this but you can easily get WM6.5, or Sense, or touchflo or SPB which makes it much more finger friendly (for free, in case you were wondering). The high res screen just makes things look a lot sharper and prettier. Its a plus.
2) Video playback is perfect. If you got it in the right format, X1 plays it fine and dandy. Can't comment on divx though, i believe it doesn't get hardware acceleration. Need someone else to comment.
Thanks for the helpful reply, it's appreciated and glad to hear it performs well on both fronts. I'm not sure I fully understand on the divx hardware acceleration though.. do you mean that certain video formats do get acceleration while others don't? I'm used to playing files encoded with Pocket Divx Encoder on Symbian phones like the P990i and E61, and divx files played perfectly, presumably with acceleration, unlike my HTC Touch/Vogue which played them okay, but with noticeable jerkiness at times.
I had thought that either the acceleration on the chipset was enabled, or it wasn't, period... and that in a whole slew of HTC phones it simply hadn't been. Am I understanding incorrectly..?
I think its to do with the program your using to watch the videos. WMP and the Media panel on the X1 get hardware acceleration, while Core player, I believe, does not. I'm not sure what this entails either, perhaps jerkier video playback. Just wait until someone else can answer it.
I use this encoder, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590 , which does the job fine, the videos play perfectly on the X1, from episodes of south park, to whole F1 GP broadcasts.
Didn't know UIQ3 supported divx, I always just converted to mp4.
1. Fingerfriendlyness: That depends on the way you customize your phone. Basic WM 6.1 isnt really fingerfriendly but if you use for example the mobile shell panel provided for free by SE the X1 is really fingerfriendly in everyday usage. And there are houndreds of other programs and tweaks to meet your personal needs.
2. My experiance when it comes to video playback is the following: Divx movies play great with a maximum resolution of 480 X 320 using TCPMP or Divx Player. Everything above is not acceptable. If you want to watch high quality movies which make use of the max resolution of the screen 800 X 480 you have to encode your movies to mp4 using the converter provided in these forums. Concerning hardware acceleration it is only possible using WMP or the media experiance panel (which I prefer).