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Can't tell where I am in the overall process.

First I want to thank everyone on these forums for all the information they've posted and shared.
There's so much information, that I'm afraid I am a little lost. I've followed so many different guides to do this and that and what not, I'm unsure of where I am exactly in the process.
My goal is to have Nandroid installed and working so I can switch and check out different roms/apps/capabilities of my phone.
I have a T-Mobile G1 that I purchased yesterday and unlocked yesterday. It came from T-Mobile already updated to 1.5 cupcake. I have an EDGE data plan and not a 3G Data plan (applies to what I had to do below.)
First thing I did was downgrade to RC29. I attempted to re-activate the phone after, but I was unable to probably due to edge connectivity.
I downloaded the SDK, and using adb I connected the phone to my wifi access.
Once I was in, I followed this guide to update the SPL. I used some utility to do it automatically, but only because I spent so much time trying to get wifi to work and activate the phone.
I then updated to the latest radio version.
I thought I wanted to install a Hero build, so I updated the SPL to the latest version, this caused my phone to freeze at the G1 screen, it wouldn't go any further. Just after this I realized that the Hero build doesn't have bluetooth, and it's essential for me right now.
So as a n00b, I downloaded JesusFreke's latest US Android build "JFV1.51 CRB43 US (11733)" renamed it update.zip and did the update, it worked fine and I've been using my phone ever since (there have been several crashing apps though.)
As I said, I want to install Nandroid to make backups, but I really don't know where in the process I'm at.
If I hold down Back+Power I get the skateboard guys (fastboot I think), if I hold down Home+Power I get the recovery mode, and Camera+Power gets the SPL. I don't really know the difference between Fastboot and Recovery mode, don't they do roughly the same thing?
I believe I'm going to have to partition my SD card (I have a 1GB right now, but I have a 16GB in a photo frame at work I will get on Monday.) in order to save apps onto the SD card and still keep music on the phone and use the phone as a portable drive.
There's so much information out there to do X with Y and run Z that it doesn't take long to figure out where you are lost.
If I go into fastboot I see:
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
Then the Menu.
In recovery Mode:
Android system recovery utility E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command
Then the Menu.
Uh oh, just noticed that when I hold the camera down and power, I don't get the SPL anymore. I get the FastBoot Menu:
HBOOT
<BACK> FastBoot Mode
That's not supposed to happen, it should go into the SPL right?
Thanks a lot for the help. I hope to be able to be at the point that I can contribute or answer questions soon.

install cyanogen's recovery image. nanroid backup AND restore is built right in.

Maybe this is where my confusion comes in.
Both recovery images and ROMs are installed by renaming them update.zip?
I guess everything is installed with update.zip. That explains a lot...

Sirchuk said:
Maybe this is where my confusion comes in.
Both recovery images and ROMs are installed by renaming them update.zip?
I guess everything is installed with update.zip. That explains a lot...
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You only have 2 posts. You need to go and read through everything. There are rules about starting threads, and this one shouldn't have been started and will probably get deleted.
You need to go to the designated thread and ask your questions. Getting to where you understand everything doesn't happen overnight.
You want nandroid backup/restore? Go to the development forum and look for cyanogen's pimped out recovery 1.3.1.
You need help on your spl? Same forum, but look for let's fix that spl.
Please do research before making a new thread.
All your answers have already been posted, just look for them.
I understand you are a noob, I welcome you to the world that is g1 with open arms. But, we all had to start somewhere.
Thank you.

You are well on your way...
You have the newest radio. You have the newest spl... You've successfully flashed a custom rom, so you are well on your way. Listen to temporizer, he's laid it all out for you. And yes, search comrade, search!

quick question with fastboot

I apparently screwed some things up in my attempt to upgrade to Cyanogenmod 4.1.99 so I can move to 4.2.3. . . anyway, I now have the HTC bootloader up with fastboot, the standard Android recovery, and HTC ADP 1.6 DRC83 firmware installed, and its up and running. I don't have root, and I am completely lost as to how to get root back, get cm-recovery 1.4 back, and from there, I should be ok...
I do have DREAMING.nbh on my sd, and when i go into fastboot(pwr+camera) It gives me a list:
Parsing. . .[DREAMING.nbh]
[1] BOOTLOADER
[2] RECOVERY
[3] BOOT
[4] SPLASH1
[5] SYSTEM
[6] USERDATA
[7] RADIO_V2
Do you want to start update?
<ACTION> Yes
<Power> No
This is where I don't know if I should do anything without advice, as I don't want to brick my G1 any further
Anyone care to help out?

if you messed up like i did a few months back , and lost root because you flashed the htc recovery image and didn't flash cyan's rom on top of it then...i can help. i'm assuming you lost root on your rom because of that, and when you rebooted it took out cyan's recovery image as well, so you can no longer flash anything else into your phone. Alright! first thing's first, is we need to have a look at what spl you're using, take out that dreaming.nbh file from your sd, you won't need it, instead, put on a recovery image like cyanogen's 1.4 or amon ra's 1.2.3 (i suggest the latter)
anyways , you're gonna have to have the hard spl/ engineering spl/ or the haykuro "death/danger" spl installed on your phone. I'm going to assume you have at least one of these, because if you don't and you have the stock spl that's a different story. If you have the stock spl for some reason, you are gonna have to downgrade your phone like you did when you first got root. Research the forums , there are loads of guides on how to downgrade your phone, go to the section that specifically talks about using the bootloader to restore the dreaming.nbh file.
if you do have either the hardspl, death, or engineering's spl,
you need to search the forums on how to use fastboot and adb
you're gonna need to push the recovery image file (cyan's or amon_ra's)
into your phone and wahpow!
you're in the green, once you have the recovery image back in the phone, you can boot into it and flash w.e the hell you want

phamous said:
if you messed up like i did a few months back , and lost root because you flashed the htc recovery image and didn't flash cyan's rom on top of it then...i can help. i'm assuming you lost root on your rom because of that, and when you rebooted it took out cyan's recovery image as well, so you can no longer flash anything else into your phone. Alright! first thing's first, is we need to have a look at what spl you're using, take out that dreaming.nbh file from your sd, you won't need it, instead, put on a recovery image like cyanogen's 1.4 or amon ra's 1.2.3 (i suggest the latter)
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You hit the nail on the head!
phamous said:
anyways , you're gonna have to have the hard spl/ engineering spl/ or the haykuro "death/danger" spl installed on your phone. I'm going to assume you have at least one of these, because if you don't and you have the stock spl that's a different story. If you have the stock spl for some reason, you are gonna have to downgrade your phone like you did when you first got root. Research the forums , there are loads of guides on how to downgrade your phone, go to the section that specifically talks about using the bootloader to restore the dreaming.nbh file.
if you do have either the hardspl, death, or engineering's spl,
you need to search the forums on how to use fastboot and adb
you're gonna need to push the recovery image file (cyan's or amon_ra's)
into your phone and wahpow!
you're in the green, once you have the recovery image back in the phone, you can boot into it and flash w.e the hell you want
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I know that I had HardSPL on at one time, would everything that has happened somehow remove it, and how can I check if its still there?
I will likely use Cyanogen's recovery. If possible, link me to a good "howto" on loading Cyanogen from Fastboot.

alright, to check what spl you have, turn off your phone and hold camera and the power on button,
you'll go into your bootloader, and it will display what spl you're running
it's been a while since i remember what numbers belong to what spl, but as long as you don't see the multicolored spl, and you see like three little android bugs on the bottom, you're good to go
uhm i kinda saved random links to things that i used, you're gonna have to read all these documents and learn all about adb, it's worth it in the long run, and there's no better time to learn it now since it's your only hope of getting root back.
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/adb-fastboot-for-rookies-18124/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
BUT ANYWAYS
OMG i just found the best guide to your problem right here
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/RE-recovery-img
^^ that is GOLD!
hope this helps buddy!

DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
Thats all it gives me, but there are 3 Androids on skateboards at the bottom, and its a all white screen.
I cant seem to get the SDK to work, let alone install on my PC here(Damnit Vista, I can't wait for my copy of Win7 Pro to get here!!!!) so I might just let it charge up overnight, check here in the morning and give it a whirl on my laptop with XP. Hopefully, I can get this all taken care of. You have been a world of help so far. Just keep an eye out for some updates here tomorrow.

SAME HERE wow, couldn't get the damn sdk to work on vista either
GO XP
that's what i did, worked instantly, find someone with xp and ask them to let you borrow it for about an hour
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you have an appropriate spl btw, it'll be able to fastboot correctly
in the meantime, i'd read up on those links i sent you, especially the last one,
and you'll be good!
goodluck!

ok, looks like I got the SDK to work on here, and I have it updating right now. Its first update was the USB driver. If anyone has some time, and wants to send me a IM over AIM to help me out with this, please IM me.
I am going to let this update, and then hope that I can get it to flash cm-recovery back onto the phone.

cm-recovery 1.4 is BACK! OK! AWESOME
god this had me abit scared.
Ok, back to the prior task at hand. at this point, can I update to CyanogenMod 4.1.99 then update to 4.2.3, or can I update this directly to 4.2.3?

ok, you cant update directly to 4.2.3 XD

Ok, awesome, ive got cm-recovery 1.4, and Cyanogenmod 4.2.3.1 up and running. Time to give Cyanogen some credit. this firmware is FAST!
Also, I want to thank everyone that has helped out with my issue. you are all worthy of a beer...I just aint got any money to pay for a beer for you all right now XD

G1 - Failed CyanogenMod help appreciated

I will start off with the issue is i probably messed up something and more importantly I am probably over my head.
Basically my G1 will not get past the tmobile screen. I have let it sit up to 35 mins in between flashing on this screen.
Before i touched it today, I had a working version of CyanogenMod, and before that the 1.5 of JF. The version of CyanogenMod i had I don't remember, but it did have all the standard google features including work email, but was not able to be updated via the CyanogenMod Updater app if that helps.
What i did.
I went out to CyanogenMod and downloaded update-cm-4.2.3-signed.zip and renamed it to update.zip and placed on the root of my SD card. I deleted the previous version that was there that flashed sucessfully last time.
I then restarted the phone holding Home and Red - did a wipe and applied the image. Nada - did it again. I have attempted to do so 4x's now. I can get into the that mode just fine.
Booting with camera yields the following
DREA100 PVT 32b
HSPL10.95.3000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
OCT 20 2008
Any help gents? I appreciate it.
White G1 - 4 Gig SD Card - T-Mobile Service -
Thanks!

do u have a nandroid back up? if not once this is resolved u should grab the latest recovery 1.4 i believe that can do back ups and restores with out much work. have u tried flashing a different rom back onto your phone again to try and get that to work?

Thanks for the reply and I will look into the backup.
I did take my SD card out and dump it all to my pc. I started looking around and it appears I made a backup of the original CyanogenMod i did in september. I then took my sd card - wiped it, and put that one on it.
So now im back working again, which i can live with, but I wonder what I did wrong with the last one or why it wont work.

If your cyan was pre-4.1.99, You have to flash the ADP recovery image as the instructions state
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrading_From_Older_CyanogenMod_or_other_rooted_ROMs

B-man007 said:
If your cyan was pre-4.1.99, You have to flash the ADP recovery image as the instructions state
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrading_From_Older_CyanogenMod_or_other_rooted_ROMs
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Thus where I failed. Thanks for pointing that out, I ran through this pretty fast assuming it was like the previous install. Again Thanks! I will take sometime and go through it slowly tonight.

Knowledg said:
Thus where I failed. Thanks for pointing that out, I ran through this pretty fast assuming it was like the previous install. Again Thanks! I will take sometime and go through it slowly tonight.
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Frankly, before you go through upgrading to a more recent ROM, and since you have a working rooted phone at the moment, I'd take the time to upgrade to the latest Radio (you're on the old 1.22.12.29 according to your post), newest SPL (Haykuro's "Danger" SPL), and recovery partition.
First update to a new Recovery... I recommend Amon_RA's latest 1.3.2. It simplifies backing up and flashing immensely. He's built Backup and Restore Tool into the Recovery, so you can essentially make an image of your phone and ext partition and restore within minutes if you screw something up (short of bricking your phone of course).
Next, I would upgrade your Radio and SPL (in that order). Follow the link in my sig for directions. Remember though... RADIO, THEN SPL. If you do SPL then Radio, you'll brick.

Stuck at G1 Screening

Ok so lets start out by saying i know i am not bricked because i am able to get into fastboot as well as recovery. So this all started when i tried to move to CyanogenMod v4.2.13 . At 1st i was on Cyanongen 4.2.10 which i was having some problems on so i wanted to move to a new rom. I then went to flash xROM Eclair-v1.0 which went ok but then i started to get FCs and wanted to go back to Cyanogen roms. I then flashed the 4.2.13 rom and i am where i am not. Every time i have tried to re flash the the rom i have done a full wipe of both the phone and the EXT, but i get stuck on the G1 screen every time no matter what. I have let it seat there for 30 mins with no luck at all. Not sure what to try now. Any ideas would be great.
Here is what i am running right now.
Fastboot reads
Dream PVT 32B ENG S-Off
Hboot-1.33.2005
Radio-2.22.19.26I
I am running the RA recovery RA-Dream-v1.5.1
Any help would be great thanks.

Have you tried to downgrade with dream.nhg and reroot ? I'm sure therebis better method then this too I'm jus throwing idea out there would wait for this and some one with more experince to help out.
Also did you flash the 1.6 ota before cyan rom, just trying make it clear for future questions.. Also try a different rom suggest trying superd 1.2 it's super fast and very stable

No don't downgrade using dream.nbh it will downgrade the radio and kill your phone!
You already have the DangerSPL installed, so you can't downgrade the radio anymore.
Just try to flash a ROM which was made for the DangerSPL (also called DeathSPL, HaykuroSPL etc.)

Same problem-FREAKING OUT
Hi,
I think I have the same problem and I think my phone is bricked. A long time ago I changed the two splash screen pictures and not I can't event get past the first 1. I'm stuck at the first splash screen.
I just learned that everytime you want to flash cyan, you have to flash the radio 1.6, wipe then falsh the cyan rom. I think I did some mis steps and effed it up. PLEASE HELP.
I think I have the Danger SPL that sats Dream PVT 32B ENG S-Off, HBOOT 1.33.2005 (DREA10000), CPLD_4, Radio 2.22.19.26I, Apr 20 2009,15:30:43. I have JF 1.42 recovery and been trying to update to Cm recovery1.4 but have had no luck because of these problems.
How do you flash a rom from the SPL screen with the three android on skateboards. I just need to figure this out please.
IS MY PHONE DEAD?

hbguy said:
Hi,
I think I have the same problem and I think my phone is bricked. A long time ago I changed the two splash screen pictures and not I can't event get past the first 1. I'm stuck at the first splash screen.
I just learned that everytime you want to flash cyan, you have to flash the radio 1.6, wipe then falsh the cyan rom. I think I did some mis steps and effed it up. PLEASE HELP.
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Where did you read that... It's not true.
And no - your phone is most likely not "dead."

oh phew! what should I do now tho? I just hit camera and power and then hit back and reset the device by pushing send and that worked but now it won't start again.
Should I wipe and try the same spl thing again?

x2phantom said:
No don't downgrade using dream.nbh it will downgrade the radio and kill your phone!
You already have the DangerSPL installed, so you can't downgrade the radio anymore.
Just try to flash a ROM which was made for the DangerSPL (also called DeathSPL, HaykuroSPL etc.)
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Wow thanks for saying thatt I did not see that danger spl was flashed! Good catch! So yes don't downgrade! I'm sure you can flash orinial spl again too..
What you can try is super d 1.6 that requires "danger spl"

how do we go about getting a super d 1.6? what is that?

hbguy said:
oh phew! what should I do now tho? I just hit camera and power and then hit back and reset the device by pushing send and that worked but now it won't start again.
Should I wipe and try the same spl thing again?
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To access recovery, hold Home + Power.
If you have a ROM on your SD card (the root), flash it (ALT + S i think it is.) If your ROM requires a wipe, ALT + W wipes.
Make sure you have the right Radio + SPL for whatever ROM you run.

JGo to the develop forums and look for super d 1.6 rom.. and flash it like any other rom.. wipe factory reset then flash any zip it requires danger spl so should for those that have it.. like said its really good and pretty well stable and blazing fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809

Oh i had a question,
when i take my sd card out and then go to the spl and reset the device, it worked. does that mean that there is something wrong with my sd card? If so do you know where there are instructions to reformat it?

hbguy said:
Oh i had a question,
when i take my sd card out and then go to the spl and reset the device, it worked. does that mean that there is something wrong with my sd card? If so do you know where there are instructions to reformat it?
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So you get passed the G1 screen? If you have a extra sd card that's not partation use that to flash your rom(make sure it'd formated to fat32) then when you get into a rom put your partation sd back in then go to settings and format sd card there then go into recovery Amon ra and repartation sd.. Jus a suggestion too you can reformat within recovery too I jus don't kno the commands

Well what i have been trying is to get 4.2.8 back since that has been the best rom i think Cyanogen has had out, but that doesn't even work when it has always been my backup rom. Well I am about to try Super D 1.6 will report back after it.
Edit: Well SuperD 1.6 flashed good and is running but why is it that no mater how many times i try i can't get CyanogenMod to flash ok when i was able to do it before.

Ooo I liked cyan roms but notice some lags after awhile use superd is great and well worth trying it

I figured it OUT! I think my sd card was courrupted or something because it wouldn't boot with the card in but when I took it out and booted using the Danger SPL like I described a few posts back, it worked and got past the first boot screen.
Then I flash cm_recovery_1.4.img but leaving it on the sd and reinserting the sd card when the phone booted. (Oh and I flashed cm 4.2.9.1 because I heard its the most stable)
Next I reformated my sdcard and then partitioned it using the following instructions from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714&highlight=partition+sd
Hope this helps anyone who has same problem. THANK YOU ILOST! Is yours working now too?

Forget the thread all is well again with Cyanogen Roms working. Turns out my SD card needed to be repartitioned but since i was at school all day. I wasn't able to get on a PC and download the ROM. Wonder why the card needed to be repartitioned, but whatever it works now thanks for taking the time to read the thread.

just flash the base rom then flash cyanogen!!!! or flash dwang!!!!!

Nice to hear PROD, I think you had the same problem that I had.
OKAY, now since I've been reflashing like crazy and lost ALL my old apps and imformation since I was using JF 1.5 before.
However, I backed up on nandroid before all this craze, does anyone know how to replace certain files like password safe or shipping list apps and daat on a new nandroid backup so then essentially all my old information can be on this new platform???

Well glad to see both you got working again! Congrats! Hope all will stat well I had this same problem continously. And I believe it's due to cheap / low class sdcards.. Usually when I flash from a different rom and I need to wipe, usually backup what's on sd and apps using titanium backup then format sdcard within phone the flash new rom after I repart it

Congrats to you ilost, you got this thread going well.
I used my backup but when I use that or nandroid then it replaces my recovery back to the old JF recovery and then I'm back at square one so I'm looking for a way to replace or insert certain old nandroid files into a new nandroid file.

Cant restart G1 without reapplying ROM

My G1 is being a REAL B*TCH!
Firstly, the root method I followed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098899
I've loaded the CM, FBL, FCS and GS roms and each ends about the same way...first boot always goes right to the android and the login and what-not.
However, restart my device and it hangs on the G1 splash screen. What gives?
I'm tired of having to reflash a ROM every time I need to reboot.

power on holding camera or back - write down everything it says. you have amon ra recovery correct?

Yes I was running running amon ra recovery, but I guess we'll never know since I've already rolled it back to 1.6, I'll try again and see what happens.

demkantor said:
power on holding camera or back - write down everything it says. you have amon ra recovery correct?
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Restored to 1.0, update to 1.5...pretty much the entire procedure over again, plus the FCS ROM install followed to a t. Same exact problem. Here's what it says:
DREAM PVT 32B SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.33.0013d (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.28.25
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27
Is the G1 splash screen supposed to be there for like...15 mins?
At this point I know I didn't miss it twice.

Must be a curropt emmc, not too common on a g1. Either that or something very strange is going on that I'm missing here. It could be some setting that is anabled on boot such as some overclocking. Sorry I'm not going to be much more help other that suggesting a 1.6 rom say super d and stick with just the danger spl and radio. Worth a shot?
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