Related
I really miss the previous On-Screen Keyboards as used in the Hermes Black Roms or Schaps, the ones with numeric keys along the top.
I searched for a OS Keyboard cab, found the perfect "skins" in Schaps thread but it killed the keyboard function entirely. I had to un-install and cold reset to restore it.
I was able to install JJ's Black Shadow Dialer cabs onto my Kaiser which work fine. (I'm using the std Non-Video dialer as I don't have video calling here).
I figure that if the dialer can be replaced with a cab that it should be even easier to have a replacement On-Screen Keyboard Cab.
Is this possible? Man I wish I was a programmer!
I put resco keyboard pro on mine and it works fine. You're right, that keyboard they have one there now sux, especially if you use it to write SMS's or anything else that you would use both text and numbers in.
To get numbers at the top just go to options and change keys from large to small
Oh Man what a knuckle head! One little setting, Thanks ID64! and you too xeno1, I'll check out keyboard pro as well.
I love this place!
if you like some skins for the keyboard, try thses, I have signed them, and they work on my Kaiser very well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329936
cheers
RemE said:
Oh Man what a knuckle head! One little setting, Thanks ID64! and you too xeno1, I'll check out keyboard pro as well.
I love this place!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah. As a noob I quite appreciate the free flow of info and help here.
I had seen the 'Large' and 'Small' options but had misinterpreted them as if the tiny little boxes for keys would get even tinier.
Thanks. That is so much better than constantly switching back and forth from numbers to letters!!
If you want an extremely impressive alternative, then try this: http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard.php
It's in beta/trial at the moment, but it's a million times better for one-handed thumb-typing while you're on the move...
It's great, I asked for a black keyboard, now I have several skins, Resco's Pro, and PocketCM which is completely awesome.
Add-on Sleuth's app "Sipchange" to be able to pick your normal default keyboard choice and have it stick thru resets and life is GOOD!
xeno1 said:
I put resco keyboard pro on mine and it works fine. You're right, that keyboard they have one there now sux, especially if you use it to write SMS's or anything else that you would use both text and numbers in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really like the new keyboard as keys are bigger. Much easier to use your bare hand to type. No need for a stylus anymore...
Sure that the numeric keypad is on another keyboard is sometime annoying but overall, th ability to use your finger is heaps better.
Jean-Yves
I'd like to use the HTC Touch keyboard on my Tilt for the times that I don't want to slide out the keyboard, but installing it seems to break the autocorrect feature when I am using the hardware keyboard. I see a few other people mentioning this in various threads, but I have yet to see any mention of a solution to this problem. I've tried all sorts of combinations of enabling and disabling autocorrect and various xt9 features, but the only way I can get autocorrect back is by uninstalling the HTC Touch keyboard.
By autocorrect, I'm referring to the ability to type in "il" and have it automatically change to "I'll"
Hi - did anybody find a solution to this? I've been searching high and low!
I'm in exactly the same boat - I love HTC keypad as it really helps me use the Kaiser one-handed, but I really miss the auto-correct on the hardware keyboard.
Is there a version of this SIP that doesn't break auto-correct?
I tried the HTC phonepad, but just couldn't get used to it after using the newer Keypad.
I would love to have a good T9 style SIP, but also have autocorrect on the hardware keyboard......anybody that can help?
Thanks!
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
6thElement said:
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too found the same issues yet I loved the T9 input using the touch pad. I removed the xT9 one and installed this one instead.
You still get T9 and it works fast too. The internal keyboard auto correct also works with it too.
Is also made by HTC but can't remember where I found it. May have been on here before or recently.
I've been earching for a solution to this as well for months now. The autocomplete that XT9 disables is part of wm6 which it calls "word completion." When XT9 is installed via htc keypad, word completion ceases to work along with the feature that auto-fills contacts as you start to type a new SMS.
Thanks for posting that pkonepad cab, but unfortunately.that' the sip that radatia mentioned above. The buttons on the new HTC touch phonepad are bigger and easier to use.
What we really need is someone here that knows some programming to somehow alter the touch phonepad so that xt9 can be toggled on and off (without a registry change and restart), or better yet somehow change it to use a T9 like the phonepad's instead of xt9...
I have exact same problem. I love the htc virtual keyboard because became useful. However once I installed it, the hardware keyboard word completion no longer work I need that too because I use it.
I have another question, do anyone know if I can make the default windows word completion to auto select the top most word suggested list so I can just enter space bar to select it. Now I always have to use down key to select the word 1st. Not efficient.
Just wanted to bump this topic. There have got to be others out there who share our frustration... and someone who can put an end to it!
I've given up on the HTC Keypad, much as I like it and it making the device usable one-handed.
Have moved onto the PocketCM Keyboard as my preferred SIP just so that I can still keep word completion when using the hardware keyboard.
Hope that someone posts here if a solution is eventually found......
oh man!
I'm the opposite.. how I wish the hardware keyboard is not auto correct enabled when I use it.
I've tried dis-abling the auto correct etc.. dun seem to work..
now using Resco keyboard..
it's the next best thing, but kinda defeats the purpose of getting the tytn II in the first place.
Yes the touch keyboard has many issues when used on kaiser. i can't get autocomplete to work with the hardware keyboard either unfortunately.
I do know that "multiword completion" in the xt9 settings or whatever is a bad thing and causes other problems, so i uncheck that. But, still can't figure out how to get autocomplete to work.
I spent a lot of time searching and installing/uninstalling these things to try and find a perfect mix, no luck though. It's still QUITE usable for me, but i would like auto complete for hardware keyboard, though, i dont think i'd use it as i type realy fast anyways with it.
It's quite hard to justify buying a keyboard when we are able to install a free one that *almost* does what we want! pcmkeyboard with iphone buttons and XL touch skin is good, but i am realy starting to like xt9.
:-( i have this problem now and love the keyboard...
Hi all,
First off, my first post here, so be gentle .
I'm looking for a keypad or keyboard to install on my Vario III so that I can type SMSes with one hand whilst on the London Underground. As good as the keyboard is, it requires two hands to be usable.
I've used the HTC Diamond keypad / keyboard pack that's on these boards, and another one after following a rabbit hole, and although they do as I want, they removed another functionality: Whilst typing on the real keyboard, I lost the word/ name suggestion box whilst typing! I find this box very useful, not least in the names section, and don't want it gone.
So, in brief, can you guys recommend a one-handed keypad for SMSing, which doesn't lose that word suggestion box functionality?
Many thanks guys!
Hi,
I tried thumbkey but it is a little buggy
Touchpal (especially the last Version, 3.0) is perfect for me...
Hi szdavid,
just had a little go on touchpal now using the trail version, and although the suggestion box was there, I'm more of an 'oldie' when it coems to texting i.e. dislike T9 or any predictive texting, and it took a couple of different areas to get one char up (choose the button, then the character).
I'll try the other one once I get up tomorrow. Thanks though, and any other suggestions out there?
If I were you, I would get the Touch Diamond Keypad.
It is just like it is on a regular phone. I will attach the CAB as well as the other Touch Diamond Keyboard.
The .CAB in this attachment is all 3 Touch Diamond Keyboards. 1 is Qwerty and 1 is the Keyboard and the other is the Keypad.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XXJ5J1OK
piepiepie77 said:
If I were you, I would get the Touch Diamond Keypad.
It is just like it is on a regular phone. I will attach the CAB as well as the other Touch Diamond Keyboard.
The .CAB in this attachment is all 3 Touch Diamond Keyboards. 1 is Qwerty and 1 is the Keyboard and the other is the Keypad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've tried that one, and I loved it, except for the fact that I lost the suggestion box above the cursor, which is important to me (which is why I uninstalled it).
Is there something like that, except without the loss of that functionality, please?
samo.chan said:
I've tried that one, and I loved it, except for the fact that I lost the suggestion box above the cursor, which is important to me (which is why I uninstalled it).
Is there something like that, except without the loss of that functionality, please?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
did you hit the ABC<->T9 toggle button second in from the left on the bottom row, it seems to give me exactly what you want..
I running the qwerty keyboard for info !!!
tengo thumb gets my vote.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_thumb.html
I might try that Tengo one, and Jerwick, I did press that button, but it still didn't give me back the suggestion box.. I'm not sure you know which one i mean...
I think it's the keypad /board's own predicter that's causing the problem and stopping the cursor suggesttion box...
any tips?
I do know what you are talking about. On some occasions, it doesn't work for me either. It has some flaws- but other than that, it's about as basic as you can get.
pie, I never got it to work unfortuneatly, and I guess I use the inline thingy mor than the one-handy thingy
guess that means that there isn't one with the same great functionality as that diamond one, then
ive actually started using the full keyboard one handed. slide it out and type with one hand, its hard to get used to.
th1rt3en said:
ive actually started using the full keyboard one handed. slide it out and type with one hand, its hard to get used to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're good, I can barely type on the Tilt keyboard sitting on the table with cut fingernails. I just can't get used to the feel, travel, feedback..... something.
OH, ANd THis ANoys ME TOo if I type too fast.
Right now, I'm using the resco keyboard which has already been mentioned.
I was wondering if there was one similar to that with bigger buttons? It would make texting while doing other stuff much easier using both thumbs.
Sometimes hitting the right key with the resco board is difficult as well.
Coudl we get the Diamond keyboard .CAB on another server? Please, we cant access megaupload in this country.
CorruptedSanity said:
Coudl we get the Diamond keyboard .CAB on another server? Please, we cant access megaupload in this country.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its in my signature under Cabs, Keyboards
There is nothing better than the Touchpal once you learn to use it period.
-McMex
Touchpal is the best for me hands down...
It offers several input methods ranging from QWERTY to T9...
And you can skin it very easily.
CorruptedSanity said:
Coudl we get the Diamond keyboard .CAB on another server? Please, we cant access megaupload in this country.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's been on my 4shared the entire time.
it seems like there are a lot of avodcates for the touchpal one, which I did like, but wasn't entirely happy with...
I might end up with it because it's the nest of the lot that I've been recommended, that and maybe the resco one
+1 TouchPal for me
Hi all
I am thinking of getting this phone when it is released in the uk. but i really only have one issue which i want your opinions on, and that is whats the typing like on the screen (i use a iphone at the mo and its really good) has anyone used both, if so are they the same.
any help on this would be great
Many thanks
Neel
No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.
I to have both an iPhone and a Diamond and I can confirm that they're definitly not the same. The iphone is a lot better when typing, part of that comes from the larger screen but also the sensitivity. If you require typing a lot, I'd stick with the iphone or get a device that has a HW keyboard. Such as the upcoming touch pro.
omegaz said:
No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I type without the styles, using full qwerty and that works fine for me. It also helps to do some registry tweaks on pressure settings of the touch screen. The iphone's touch interface is more responsive though.
I use the compact qwerty with T9 activated and I find it quicker than using my previous phone (Nokia N73).
I have the ipod touch and I am not able to write with just one hand on it, and that bugs me... but with the diamond I can type with just one hand and the compact qwerty (2 letters per buttom). I think it's just a personal preference...
First of all the Diamond has been officially released in the UK for about a good week or so....i have one.
Secondly i use the full qwerty keyboard and have absolutely no trouble typing withmy fingers...in fact its great. I use the stylus as well and it works well too.
I have an ipod touch and i find typing on that to be a chore, i make way too many mistakes on the ipod touch compared to the Diamond.
If you buy the phone then make sure you do the tweaks listed in the tweak thread or better still flash to the TLR rom and all thos tweaks above are enabled.
Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.
Spawn12 said:
Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have to agree - coming from an iPhone to a Diamond, I find the Diamond much better. I NEVER use the stylus at all and type with the full QUERTY. Its much quicker as all the symbols and numbers can be typed by holding another key for a few seconds rather than entering a new menu to do it.
I haven't adjusted the sensitivity at all, but I do find the Diamond needs a slightly harder touch... however it does work with a pair of gloves on (unlike the iPhone).
The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!
p3eps said:
The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is not going to be fully possible. Hardware wise, the iPhone has a proximity sensor which will detect where your thumb/finger is going to hit on the onscreen keyboard and virtually enlarges the surface area of the suggested key to ensure that you are going to hit the correct key. It will also auto-correct the word based on it's huge library.
In addition to this is the obvious size of the screens, the Diamond's being smaller making it harder to type. The onscreen full QWERTY that HTC have implemented in the Diamond is quite poor and is prone to keystroke errors if you're a fast typer *like myself*.
I am currently using PCM Keyboard however and is somewhat 'closer' to that of the iPhone's keyboard capability, where the included dictionary will analyze the keystrokes of a word you type and will try match your keystrokes with the closest/most suited word in its dictionary by substituting incorrect letters with more correct letters surrounding that of the incorrectly entered key.
The iPhone keyboard, is without a doubt, the best onscreen keyboard I have used and I really do miss it. This doesn't go without saying that I do really love my Diamond too, I just wish there was a better keyboard implemented.
The iPhone/Touch is hands down better than any Windows Mobile device when it comes to the onscreen software keyboard. There is simply no comparison. I get that some people find the Diamond better but to be honest, and coming from a hardcore WiMo fan who's gone through at least ten PocketPC devices, the iPhone's keyboard blows any WiMo device away.
Part of the reason is the size of the keyboard and the sensitivity, but even on the HTC Universal with its huge screen, it wasn't as easy as typing on the iPhone. The real secret of the iPhone's ease of use is its Autocorrection feature. To date, there is only one SIP keyboard on WiMo that comes close and it is not PCM Keyboard, it's Touch Pal.
I recommend giving Touchpal a try; it does key proximity sensing the same way the iPhone does, so if you type in "hrllo" it will change it to "hello" after you press the space bar. The dictionary though is bigger and offers more word choices, and isn't as smart as the iPhone's so the iPhone keyboard is still overall better. But Touch Pal isn't half bad.
suggest you check the dates on this thread your nearly 11 months late answering!! lol
Phone keypad and T9 seems about as fast as my old Nokia
Love it.
I am looking for an SIP keyboard similar to EZ-Input 2. I really like how the keys are so big an easy to use, almost like the Iphone keyboard. I can't use the one in the developers sub forum, since I just discovered that it was the cause of my hardware keyboard to not function correctly. If anyone has a version of it that works, or another suggestion, let me know. Thanks.
Try using FingerKeyboard 2.1. I use it and it's very good. It has haptic feedback and pops up the keys pressed just like the iPhone Keyboard. Very good from my part.
Thanks. I have used it before, and will be using it again now for the time being. I was wondering though if there were any keyboards with even bigger keys though? This would make typing even easier.
Tilt Fanatic said:
I am looking for an SIP keyboard similar to EZ-Input 2. I really like how the keys are so big an easy to use, almost like the Iphone keyboard. I can't use the one in the developers sub forum, since I just discovered that it was the cause of my hardware keyboard to not function correctly. If anyone has a version of it that works, or another suggestion, let me know. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you may find it here
=== http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502344