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Hey everybody I just got the sprint version of this phone about two weeks ago and was wondering what changes to the operating system I can make. I was wondering if all the ROMs will work with the Sprint Version.
Also If i can upgrade the ROM which is best and could someone please explain how to go about it, I tried to read the guides but was very confused.
I have a Sprint Diamond too, and although under Diamond ROM Development, there are some CDMA ROMs for the Diamond, I have found that there are more topics relating to our phones on forum.ppcgeeks.com.
This website is GSM centric, and the GSM ROMs that are posted here don't work on CDMA phones (i.e. 95% of the ROMs here don't work on CDMA phones).
i have a CMDA diamond, i seen a lot of great roms here all for gsm. my question is .... Is there any way to convert a GSM rom to CDMA?
thanks
i'd like to see this too
can any of the elite, shed some light on this.... is it even possible?
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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you're probably in the right forum, since rooting is development. but i do think you should check out the hero forum just in case there's stuff about the Sprint Hero
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
thanks for the response, I agree and posted a different post related only to the Sprint Hero on that forum (hopefully i did not abuse the forum rules, if I did, I understand if a Dev locks or deletes one).
jj972 said:
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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I may be wrong about this but to my knowledge, CDMA is a Network as well as Hardware and software type of thing. When Android was developed it was not capable of running on a CDMA network, one of many things added when Cupcake (firmware 1.5) was relased. CDMA is a network type so GSM only devices will not work on it and as far as I can tell devices built for CDMA are built specifically for that. There is some sort of hardware in there that allows the device to connect to the CDMA network that GSM only devices dont have. (I may be wrong about this though, I also believe it has to do with the radio).
Finally, I dont know what metro or cricket is and I also didn't know that the G1 was on those networks but if it is, I would assume that if those are CDMA networks its not the same G1 that was released on TMO and differers internally in that it can function on a CDMA network. If that is the case then its probably possible. If not then no.
Dont quote me on any of this. I'm not saying this from an experts point of view just from what I have concluded based on what I know about network types, devices and Android.
jj972 said:
I dont know much about it but maybe someone can clarify things...now i know cdma is what sprint, verizon, metro, cricket, etc use. Is cdma a hardware type thing or is it a network type thing? And can the sprint hero img be ported and modified to the g1 and somehow allowing it to be flashed to a metro/cricket type service?? Just questions im curious about...
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CDMA is hardware AND network... not software.
salamandar said:
I have been searching all week and can find no info on anyone having successfully rooted the Sprint (CDMA) Hero.
I'm sorry to post here but it seems to be the most active android modder board, has any Dev managed to acquire a CDMA hero and is any Dev attempting to root it?
Is this just wishful thinking on my part? I sincerely hope not!
After a week playing with I can say it blows the G1 away! Battery life, speaker quality, form factor, etc, far and away a better more reliable device.
A word of caution to anyone going from the TMobile G1 to the Sprint Hero... DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BACK UP YOUR APPS OR DATA ON THE G1 & THEN RESTORE THEM ON YOUR HERO! YOU WILL LOOSE NETWORK CONNECTION TO SPRINT! I suspect that apps & data downloaded & used thru the TMobile network on your G1 are unable to use a CDMA connection and attempt to modify your system to access the TMobile network. This breaks connectivity and only a wipe has fixed it (hard wipe using the ##786# menu + your individual reset code from Sprint). Your best hope is to re-download your apps. The good news is your download history should show most of your apps and allow you to download them from your CDMA Hero.
Moderators, my sincere apologies if you feel I posted in the wrong forum. I felt it best to reach the active modders I am aware of and offer some transfer advice for those making the switch.
Thanks all,
-Salamandar
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if u had used astro to back up your apps and install them one bye one u would not have had a problem
Thank you superg05 that's a good idea.
Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.
harpreet1988 said:
Android is capable of supporting both CDMA and GSM.
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it is now. but originally it was only built for GSM... only T-Mobile's GSM most likely lol
this is really dumb but has some tried one click root yet? or will that mess up the recovery image leading to a possible brick. becase its running 1.5 not 1.6 right?
I one click rooted my friends g1 the other day and it works fairly well. Don't think you can use the gsm hero root method to root a cdma hero.
Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?
brianhaden said:
Just fyi attempted to root the Sprint Hero using the one click method, but was unsucessful. I couldn't seem to back up the stock image. Any advice?
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it would probably be best to wait till more people get their hands on the sprint hero. the more people that get their hands on it, the faster way a rooting method that works will be found
Hello..
I am gettign a good deal on a Sprint TP2 .... I am currently usign a Kaiser(Tilt) and love it... I am unlocking the Sprint TP2 so I can use it with a GSM providor.... I was wondering if someone can reccomend a hopefulyl unbranded Rom & radio combo that are known to work with this phone.. The gsm carrier I will be using is called Einstein PCS... But I think any one that works well for AT&T will be good for me as I roam i ntheir networks often.. I am not worried about the 3G speeds as my carrier doesn;t offer that, and I will usually just use Wifi anyways.. Thank you in advance...
Lately lots of people ask this question, but no one want to answer I think you must flash some Roms and choose the best in your opinion
Teej53214 said:
Hello..
I am gettign a good deal on a Sprint TP2 .... I am currently usign a Kaiser(Tilt) and love it... I am unlocking the Sprint TP2 so I can use it with a GSM providor.... I was wondering if someone can reccomend a hopefulyl unbranded Rom & radio combo that are known to work with this phone.. The gsm carrier I will be using is called Einstein PCS... But I think any one that works well for AT&T will be good for me as I roam i ntheir networks often.. I am not worried about the 3G speeds as my carrier doesn;t offer that, and I will usually just use Wifi anyways.. Thank you in advance...
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Firstly, DO NOT flash a GSM ROM, or use any of the GSM unlockers. Head over to the Rhodium CMDA forum and use the tools there.
Secondly, just pick the ROM that you like the look of, there are some in the CDMA forum and a few more on PPCGeeks IIRC. It's not that hard, if you don't like the look of a ROM, change it, if you don't like any, put the stock ROM back on.
EDIT: P.S : Read this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583481
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Dave
Now that a significant number of US carriers (as well as MTS Canada) have released the CDMA Milestone, which is compatible with Verizon Droid firmwares and *not* with GSM Milestone firmwares...
May I suggest a small renaming to reduce confusion?
Motorola Milestone Android Development -> Motorola Milestone (GSM) Android Development
Motorola Droid Android Development -> Motorola Droid (and CDMA Milestone) Android Development
There have already been people who got carried way trying to apply GSM Milestone guides to their CDMA Milestone. Let's reduce the amount of phone bricking =)
Not sure if there are enough ROMs posted to warrant a whole new forum for each. What might be easier, if I implement a requirement for all Devs who post a ROM to indicate either [GSM] or [CDMA] in the thread title.
Which Roms are CDMA? Are there many?
Every CDMA Droid ROM is a potential CDMA Milestone ROM. The hardware is identical other than the fact that they should avoid flashing a Verizon radio. For example, Cellular South Milestone users are able to flash Clockwork Mod, Bugless Beast and Cyanogen, which were all compiled for the Droid. So what I'm saying is we need to point those users to the subforum that is presently labelled Droid, because that's where they will find the compatible development information. It's pointless for them to read information about the GSM Milestone.
Basically it's a Droid with a "Milestone" label on it, just like how the Inspire 4G is a renamed Desire HD, and the "G2 Touch" is a GSM Hero and not a Vision. Posts regarding the CDMA Milestone should be in the Droid forum. Anyone else agree with me here?
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I agree with the forum renaming if they are essentially the same device, but simply need a different radio. No need for separate forums as the difference is no greater than European vs North American GSM Milestones
Sworkhard said:
I agree with the forum renaming if they are essentially the same device, but simply need a different radio. No need for separate forums as the difference is no greater than European vs North American GSM Milestones
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Right, my understanding is: The radio image of Verizon Droid ROMs contains a lock that prevents you from switching the phone's settings to any carrier but Verizon. The rest of the ROM is completely compatible though - ROMs that were written by devs who have never even heard of a CDMA Milestone are fully functional on that phone.
And it seems that just about every regional CDMA carrier has released it now - and with only Android 2.1, to boot - so there are lots of people looking for answers on this forum.
Would making those CDMA rom's be easier if all the devs had the APN's from those carriers? And I agree with the name change.
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I second that!
I totally agree.new title! .. and I was going to ask.*.Developers*...Is there a way you can leave the Apns blank for us CMDA milestones?? Maybe that would be easier than suppling a bunch of different roms? Just and idea.. Ive had trouble replacing the verizon ones..im sure a few others have as well.
I think if you've flashed the Verizon radio, it locks down the APN settings.
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That's what it sounds like to me too.
Tappin' and a Talkin' from my Milestone
But is not the same Milestone CDMA Than DROID?
Diferent is Milestone from Droid
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Ifiuse said:
But is not the same Milestone CDMA Than DROID?
Diferent is Milestone from Droid
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Its not running any Verizon firmware. Doesn't have built in VZW Apps! Its bone stock OS.
Tappin' and a Talkin' from my Milestone
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But is not the same Milestone CDMA Than DROID?
Diferent is Milestone from Droid
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CDMA Milestone = Droid, same hardware down to the last detail.
GSM Milestone is a separate category.
Owners of a CDMA Milestone should have a clear indication to proceed directly to the CDMA/Droid section, not the GSM Milestone section.
Ok, so can someone clear up what exactly is the same and whats different?
From what I can understand, it would be good enough to put a [TAG] in the title like [CDMA] or [GMS], or whatever else is different?
the_scotsman said:
Ok, so can someone clear up what exactly is the same and whats different?
From what I can understand, it would be good enough to put a [TAG] in the title like [CDMA] or [GMS], or whatever else is different?
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No no no. What you're suggesting still involves grouping CDMA Milestone users into the same dev forum as GSM Milestone users. This simply makes no sense. There are currently two dev subforums already, and the CDMA Milestone owners just need to know which one to go to.
What is the same and what is different?
GSM Milestone = Milestone A853 has one set of guts inside, a GSM/HSPA radio, a SIM card holder, and a locked bootloader.
CDMA Milestone = Milestone A854 = Verizon CDMA Droid A855 has a distinct set of guts inside, a CDMA radio, no SIM holder, and an unlocked bootloader. The guts of A854 are the same as A855, and the ROMs are interchangeable except for certain carrier locks.
ROMs for GSM A853 are completely incompatible with the CDMA A854/855 and vice versa.
"Milestone" is just a name - ignore the name, focus on the guts.
Let's take an analogy:
GSM Milestone = Green pepper
CDMA Milestone = Green apple
CDMA Verizon Droid = Red apple
I am suggesting that recipes (ROMs) for the apples should go in one dev subforum; and that recipes for the peppers should go in another. Recipes for red apples work with green apples and vice-versa, so this makes a lot of sense.
You are suggesting that recipes for green peppers and green apples should go into the same forum entitled "green" because they're both green, and then posters can mark the recipes as [pepper] or [apple] accordingly. And then for some reason the red apples get their own forum.
Let's turn the tag idea on the side. How about this:
1) CDMA Milestone/Droid Android Development
Posts that are more specific to the CDMA Milestone are tagged [Milestone]
Posts that are more specific to Verizon are tagged [Droid]
2) GSM Milestone Android Development
No tags needed - the CDMA Milestone users will not stumble into this forum because it's useless to them!
Thanks for clearing that up.
So we have:
GSM Milestone
CDMA Milestone
CDMA Verizon Droid
I still think the best option would be to keep the current structure, and just add a [GSM] or [CDMA] tag in each title of all Milestone threads.
I can see what you're saying in your analogy, but that will go against what users would expect...that would have 2 different "devices based on name" in one dev forum, which clearly wouldn't work.
I'll ask for input from svetius (the User Experience Admin), see what he thinks, as he's the one who looks after the forum structure.
If CDMA Milestone threads are shoved into the GSM Milestone forum, it'll produce a lot more needless duplication and confusion than if they're directed to the Droid forum.
The development forums should be based around grouping together phones with the same hardware that have compatible ROMs. Look at the mess that came out of naming the Galaxy S forums based on the name of the American phones... it leaves Canadian users confused due to the way the names don't match up.
Bell Vibrant = international i9000 with different frequencies
Telus Fascinate = T-Mobile Vibrant with different frequencies
No Canadian equivalent = Verizon Fascinate
The dev forums for those phones would be cleaner and less redundant if they were grouped by hardware rather than name. Instead you get duplicate ROMs being posted across multiple dev forums with tags to remind you that the post is about an HSPA phone with the coincidental same name as a more popular incompatible CDMA model...
So yeah. Let's set a better precedent here.
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cmstlist said:
If CDMA Milestone threads are shoved into the GSM Milestone forum, it'll produce a lot more needless duplication and confusion than if they're directed to the Droid forum.
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I think I must be missing something then...where are the CDMA Milestone threads at the moment?
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I think I must be missing something then...where are the CDMA Milestone threads at the moment?
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Well, some CDMA Milestone users have found themselves posting in Milestone threads after trying to apply GSM Milestone instructions or in order to ask if these instructions will work on their phone - unsuccessfully of course:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10528179&postcount=78
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10356536&highlight=cdma#post10356536
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10097356&highlight=cdma#post10097356
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9604296&postcount=135
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7926606&postcount=24
In many cases I was the one to tell these users "Your phone may be called a Milestone but it's actually a Droid. Go to that forum to help."
And the ones who heeded that advice or managed to figure it out for themselves, posted in the Droid forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912490&highlight=milestone
On other sites some of these threads end up in Droid subforums:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/hacking-help/81918-cdma-milestone-a854.html
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/hacking-help/112465-2-2-milestone-a854-real.html
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/95007-cellular-south-milestone-help-please.html
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/10813-please-help-me/
and the Droid owners are quite helpful in providing advice since they know the hardware already.
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid/182926-moto-droid-1-identical-milestone.html
...and some of these threads end up in Milestone subforums:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-milestone/92415-stock-restore-milestone-a854.html
http://androidforums.com/milestone-all-things-root/181185-can-cellular-south-milestone-rooted.html
http://androidforums.com/motorola-milestone/191489-cdma-milestone.html (in this thread everyone gives *incorrect advice* suggesting the phone would have a locked bootloader)