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I feel I've made a terrible (and stupid) mistake. I decided to unroot my phone from cyanogen roms. I read a how to guide that I guess was outdated because now I have android 1.0 firmware. The guidw was [how to] unroot by tubaking182 (absolutely zero offense to him, not his fault, I'm stupid, etc etc.) So I now have stock version 1.0. There's no check for system updates under about phone in settings so I can't do that. There are file manager apps that I could use to rename the necessary updates into update.zip, but there's no apps available like download crutch so I can download them. I also can't enter recovery. It gives me a triangle with an exclamation inside next to a image of a phone and that's it and I have no idea how to install an update without recovery mode. As I'm sure you've noticed by now, I'm the epitome of newb and feel free to laugh at my failure. I just really need someone to help me and would be eternally grateful. In all likelihood, I'll need step by step instructions on what to do. I know this is a lot to ask and I've really done nothing to earn this help... I really just need assistance. Thank you to anyone who helps me in advance
Not to be an asshole and say "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" but you really should have done your research before embarking on bricking your phone.
ItsAndroidsWorld had many videos on You Tube. Look for ones on how to root, then how to install the death spl, then look for the ones with Super D or FastTest .. as it seems as though they are probably the best roms for everyday use at this point.
I've found that using these videos via You Tube is the easiest way to go.
Good Luck.
^^^ ABOVE POST stolen from another similar thread.
psyko-m1 said:
Not to be an asshole and say "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" but you really should have done your research before embarking on bricking your phone.
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he didn't brick his phone, don't scare him
To OP: The same happened to me when I was a n00b at this ****.
Dude, google is your friend.
Calm down.
tsk tsk tsk.....Im gonig to say this....WRONG SECTION
but I will be nice as well. just find the updates on google from 1.0 to 1.5 and oh yeah to get back into recovery from the triangle withthe !...alt L...but if you somehow brick ya phone youe fault not mine next time do ya research before you mess with ya phone
Technically speaking he is in a DEFCON 2 "Brick" situation.
Sorry.
psyko-m1 said:
Technically speaking he is in a DEFCON 2 "Brick" situation.
Sorry.
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Well he's in the wet cement
SeEsAw12 said:
Well he's in the wet cement
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Or...
You are late for work and have a flat...
click on this http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-mytouch-3g-magic/:cool:
remove the cool http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-mytouch-3g-magic/
this website should help you get back on track and you just need to download the nbh file to get it back to cupcake
BUT 0MGAWWZZZ N00BZORZ DO3S 1.0 HAVE A DA SENSE RAOM???
in all seriousness, there's nothing actually wrong with your phone. You completely unrooted it. By following the aforementioned instructions, it'll be easy to reroot and update. What I DO find weird is why you're not getting 1.5 OTA...
although i hate when people post in the wrong section - im in a good mood this morning
http://zenthought.org/content/project/flashrec
not sure if it works in 1.0 - it should as it uses a rather old bug to do so
Easy as pie...just follow the guide in my sig.
=)
To those who say I bricked it, I know that's not the case it still works so I obviously didn't brick it... not that fail thankfully.
To thenameismax, AHA! I did not know about alt+l retrieving text so thank you thank you thank you. I just need to get the necessary updates and copy them to sd card root, rename update.zip/install one at a time... I think lol
Thanks again to all who helped and sorry about the wrong section. When I was rooting, it was in development. I assumed that unrooting would be too and therefore problems with that... further fail.
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To those who say I bricked it, I know that's not the case it still works so I obviously didn't brick it... not that fail thankfully.
To thenameismax, AHA! I did not know about alt+l retrieving text so thank you thank you thank you. I just need to get the necessary updates and copy them to sd card root, rename update.zip/install one at a time... I think lol
Thanks again to all who helped and sorry about the wrong section. When I was rooting, it was in development. I assumed that unrooting would be too and therefore problems with that... further fail.
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yeah man no problem. good luck.
Don't do anything. In a day or two you get an OTA update.
You can force the update like people have mentioned, but as long as you can hold off for a day or two you dont need to.
BTW, at some point you will see the E or 3G icon downloading like crazy and you dont know why. It is downloading the update. Stay away from task killers and in my experience it is good to be around wifi.
Just relax.
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Had OD and loved having it rooted. (My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb) Had to upgrade to Bionic and while I love it am missing root.
I've been searching online and between info about root and the upcoming ICS update I am getting confused.
Should I root now and wait for ICS? Or wait for ICS then root?
It seems pretty likely that there will be ICS based ROMs available long before Motorola gets around to releasing an official OTA update.
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(My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb)
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You need not be rooted at all. If you don't know exactly what you're doing, you should NOT be rooted because you WILL brick your phone.
If you really want to be rooted, you need to do some research and get more familiar with it, what it's for, how it works, and what it can do to your phone.
You probably want to be pretty familiar with ADB too.
I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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Yea I understand about going back. I had to go back just to get the webtop working in 5.7.893. I did the incremental one and lost webtop. used the R3l3AS3DRoot_Windows_V2.1 to go back to the 886 then used the single file update to 5.7 and everything works great. I would probably root if I could get free wifi hotspot so I could use my XOOM thru my phone cause I don't want to pay the hotspot or extra for more 4G bandwidth for my XOOM since my phone is unlimited
I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
kimeee said:
I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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Even if you did do it by yourself, if you don't know where to go from there, I wouldnt do it.
Its fun seeing the ROMs that are put out but unless that tutor is available I wouldnt do it. Bricking your phone isnt cool.
Rooting really isn't that big a deal once you have some idea what you are doing.
I have had 3 rooted phones and have rooted/jailbroke/hacked just about every other electronic device in my entire house at one point or another.
Do your research, and make sure you follow the instructions. Of course it also helps if you are familiar with ADB and a command shell so you know what the commands you are running actually do too.
Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Exactly. Motorola will have to start all over with Blur, that is gonna take forever. Rooting a phone with a decent developer community will always mean you have access to the new toys well before the OTA updates.
At the OP, You should have also ran the 43V3R root when you did R3L3AS3DRoot. I'm not an expert on android software and rooting but when I had my X2 I did some minimal research and haven't ran into any problems. When I got my Bionic I rooted it within the first 20 min of getting it. The tools that Dhacker put out (R3L3AS3DRoot, etc.) are amazing and rather easy for someone who is less experienced. They also make it nearly impossible to brick your phone as you can just run it again to get back to stock. Not to say you should just rush into things with reckless abandon.
If you do some research and read EVERYTHING that a developer provides as a guide to flashing their ROM, mod, hack, etc. you'll most likely be ok. Just do everything in small steps. As to your question about ICS though, do like I said. I know it's a pain but backup all your apps and run the R3L3AS3DRoot again, but then also run 43V3R root and intall Cheesecake. All of these can be done with the same tool. Then flash the 5.7.893 update and bam, you have the latest version and your still rooted. You may have to reinstall Super User from the market though.
As far as how useful having a rooted phone is, it all depends on what you will actually take advantage of. One of the simplest things is to just flash a custom ROM and enjoy the changes the developer has made. Liberty is top notch and I would reccomend it to a "newb". Personally I am quite satisfied with stock and would rather customize everything to my own personal satisfaction. If you go that route there are still great things out there. I'm using the V8 Supercharger script and ROM toolbox. TBH I'm not really sure what I'm doing with scripts but there was a good guide for the V8S one and I would highly suggest ROM toolbox. You can use it to install custom fonts, boot animations, download and install custom ROMs (though I think it only supports liberty (haven't tested it)) freeze or uninstall bloatware apps. Basically it's about 10 or so apps in one and it's very user friendly.
Wow this is getting way longer than I planned so here's the:
TL;DR
Do research til you feel comfortable. Read EVERYTHING any developer gives you as a guide. Don't rush into things. And looks at all your options. Rooting gives you access to a few neat tools and hacks to get everything you can out of your phone. Just keep R3L3AS3DRoot handy and you have a very low chance of completely bricking your phone. Also as a disclaimer, I'm not responsible if you completely wreck your phone.
Edit: Adding some links to helpful reads.
FAQs, highly recommend.
List of all ROMs and most tools, etc.
UOT Kitchen, very user friendly way to theme your phone. PM me if you want to use this because there are certain things you must do and things you cannot do.
Hope I have helped a bit.
R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R Root were easier than expected.
I say go for root that update is a few months away anyways just make sure you know what you're doing.
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So I see from the Development subforum that the Droid 4 hasn't been rooted yet. Correct? Does anyone have a plain english update as to what's going on on that front?
I see there's a bounty on someone's head, or something like that, but that's all I've got.. and I'm not savvy enough to know what to do myself or know what's really happening there. I'd love a one click root method. How far away are we from that functionality?
sorry for the pretty dumb question
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So I see from the Development subforum that the Droid 4 hasn't been rooted yet. Correct? Does anyone have a plain english update as to what's going on on that front?
I see there's a bounty on someone's head, or something like that, but that's all I've got.. and I'm not savvy enough to know what to do myself or know what's really happening there. I'd love a one click root method. How far away are we from that functionality?
sorry for the pretty dumb question
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Root has been achieved. Just follow the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492843
kwyrt said:
Root has been achieved. Just follow the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492843
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thank you Guess I was just searching for the phrase "root."
tamarw said:
thank you Guess I was just searching for the phrase "root."
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No problem. Happy rooting. And be careful!
Root was achieved on this device by djrbliss before it was even released actually, but we still do not yet have a full XML.zip of fastboot images to restore with, so it is very dangerous to make any significant mods at this stage.
I have been pushing all my sources very hard to find this file, but so far everyone has come up empty.
Until we have it we are all working without a safety net because signed factory images are needed to restore a soft bricked device.
Stick to rooting your phone, for the time being. You can disable bloatware, and customize the hell out of the stock ROM that's already on there. That should be enough to get you through, for the time being. Don't get me wrong, we're all salivating over a real safety net.
Go with a simple root or safestrap it. I bricked my phone using safestrap.
Root for now, wait for fastboot files.
That might seem like a silly title, but I do have decent reason to ask.
Now, before I start - I have given the forums a nice search. I did check the Wiki. Believe me, XDA's "You're a noob" video gave me enough of a fright to search more thoroughly than I normally would.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find what an answer I was looking for. Either I wasn't broad enough, or I'm among the first to ask.
Even now, I'm not sure if I should be making an entirely new thread, or posting in the 'Ask Any Question' thread.
Either way, since I'm here...
I'm currently running a rooted Xperia Z firmware 4.1.2 with the bootloader locked. I am aware of the most recent firmware update, 4.2.2.
Now, I've only been in the experience of rooting for a little while. The Z is really my first rooted phone, and as such, I haven't got my head wrapped around over what it means to upgrade, or otherwise update a rooted device. Still learning, heh.
Now, I understand that there's a risk - If not a certainty - That if I take the official update, I will lose my root access.
That's all fine and dandy since I'm also aware of DooMLoRD's rootkit update for this software version.
What I'm mostly worried about there though is the fact that the rootkit installs BusyBox.
I already have this installed, and I know it's risky to uninstall it. However, installing it over a current installation sounds like it's going to cause so much unwanted chaos.
So... I really could do with some advise on that.
Also, perhaps this is personal paranoia, but I could do with the reassurance. Taking that update -is- safe enough for my device, considering it's rooted, right? Again, I'd probably lose root access, but is that the only risk?
I'm not gonna end up downloading it and find that the phone won't turn on due to some error caused by the fact that my phone was rooted, am I?
Thanks for reading,
- Sytheriseida
Yes.
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Yes.
...Sent from Zed
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... Not particularly helpful, but thanks anyway.
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... Not particularly helpful, but thanks anyway.
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Sorry, on my Phone. Asking if its safe to update is a bit of a poor question which the short answer is yes. The stickys or existing threads should be the first port of call for most People learning about a new device.
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Sorry, on my Phone. Asking if its safe to update is a bit of a poor question which the short answer is yes. The stickys or existing threads should be the first port of call for most People learning about a new device.
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What I mostly meant was if it was safe considering the setup of my phone.
I can understand that it was a poor question - Hence, personal paranoia.
Thanks for tolerating it, heh.
Yeah, I saw the threads regarding such information. But I guess I wanted to be absolutely certain.
That's not a very good excuse, I know. But it's the only one I have.
A bit too paranoid. Just backup your Phone the best you can then go from there, if it goes wrong it's easily sorted by using the flashtool.
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A bit too paranoid. Just backup your Phone the best you can then go from there, if it goes wrong it's easily sorted by using the flashtool.
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Perhaps, but BusyBox caused me so much chaos in the past due to a double-installation. I was at the point in which I couldn't get it to connect to the computer to flashtool it to fix the damn thing, so my paranoia is fair. XD
UPDATE.
I went ahead and installed the firmware update. As I thought, I've lost root access. Which is fine.
But BusyBox is still installed, heh. Figures.
So I need to know whether DoomLoRD's rootkit would be safe to use in this case.
Advise?
Thanks.
Just go ahead and update. I was also rooted with bootloader locked, and updated via PC Companion and then used DooMLoRD's kit. No problems at all.
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Just go ahead and update. I was also rooted with bootloader locked, and updated via PC Companion and then used DooMLoRD's kit. No problems at all.
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I took your word for it, and gave the installer a try.
I guess I didn't have anything to worry about after all. I guess I'm set for a good little while, then.
XperienceD, hush66, thank you very much for your help. You've been beyond calming.
Consider this [Resolved.]
Someone has to do something about this. Beginners like myself are bricking their phones every day and getting frustrated. Sure there is a fix but with how hard this is to learn for beginners its really frustrating.
Edit: This was meant to try to help beginners understand that the chainfire root method is for Lollipop and not for Marshmallow. I do not believe this should be taken down, just labeled for Lollipop so beginners don't soft brick their phones using this guide on a phone with Marshmallow.
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Someone has to do something about this. Beginners like myself are bricking their phones every day and getting frustrated. Sure there is a fix but with how hard this is to learn for beginners its really frustrating.
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root process for lollipop..
unlock your bootloader
fastboot flash twrp recovery
flash supersu via your new recovery
reboot and youll have root.
how hard is that? if its too hard, id suggest doing some reading about the process first, its all over google.
There's a new post every day about someone following the root process for lollipop when they have Marshmallow. I am far from computer illiterate and from the number of posts on this I think it speaks for itself.
At least label it more obviously that it's for lollipop.
I used chainfires root method and personally I don't see how anyone that's got a brain could screw this up. All ya gotta do is read and read then read some more. It's not hard people's . Chainfires method is about as simple as it can get. @Chainfire is a genius I hope he doesn't see this post, hell I'm embarrassed for him.
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the difference bwtween lollipop and marshmallow is that you also have to flash a custom kernel in twrp right before you flash supersu. besides that, its identicle.
I'm agree with you if you're talking about Android M. It's really crazy.
But as far as I remember, there was no notable obstacle on LP version root.
Unlock bootloader. Flash recovery and flash supersu....any other step?
If they are not familiar with adb, I guess they may face trouble. Actually the problem occurs from the start at downloading adb tool(platform_tools on SDK) with that sucking google tool.
..However, if they are, they shouldn't do root. It's too risky if they don't even know the basics.
So the instructions for how to root lollipop should be removed because some people don't take the time to read everything and confirm which version of Android they have on their phone?
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I'm agree with you if you're talking about Android M. It's really crazy.
But as far as I remember, there was no notable obstacle on LP version root.
Unlock bootloader. Flash recovery and flash supersu....any other step?
If they are not familiar with adb, I guess they may face trouble. Actually the problem occurs from the start at downloading adb tool(platform_tools on SDK) with that sucking google tool.
..However, if they are, they shouldn't do root. It's too risky if they don't even know the basics.
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actually, wrong. if you have issues with adb, thats nice, but adb has NOTHING to with rooting a nexus device. rooting uses fastboot, not adb.
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So the instructions for how to root lollipop should be removed because some people don't take the time to read everything and confirm which version of Android they have on their phone?
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removed, no. it should stay to show the history of rooting, among other things. but people should edicate themselves before ever rooting their devices. stupid people isnt an excuse to get rid of our history.
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actually, wrong. if you have issues with adb, thats nice, but adb has NOTHING to with rooting a nexus device. rooting uses fastboot, not adb.
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removed, no. it should stay to shiw the history of rooring, among other things. but people should edicate themselves before ever rooting their devices. stupid people isnt an excuse to get rid of our history.
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Ah.. you're right. Fastboot flash and unlock, right. I was talking about Android SDK(platform-tools) but it seems that I mistaked it, since I'm with adb console window for pulling something now(..)
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Ah.. you're right. Fastboot flash and unlock, right. I was talking about Android SDK(platform-tools) but it seems that I mistaked it, since I'm with adb console window for pulling something now(..)
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thats alright.. seems as most accidentally say adb instead of fastboot, which isnt a big deal. unless youre a new user and keep trying to use adb to root.
Hey just trying to help the beginners. Take a look at this thread and tell me where it mentions its for lollipop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
Or where it mentions its not for Marshmallow. I'll save you the trouble. Nowhere.
I don't deserve all the ignorant remarks here. Uncalled for.
Some of you are right, taking it down is not the right path, but mentioning what version of Android its for is the right path.
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Hey just trying to help the beginners. Take a look at this thread and tell me where it mentions its for lollipop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
Or where it mentions its not for Marshmallow. I'll save you the trouble. Nowhere.
I don't deserve all the ignorant remarks here. Uncalled for.
Some of you are right, taking it down is not the right path, but mentioning what version of Android its for is the right path.
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then you have to think when it was written.. before marshmallow. before marshmallow, rooting was exactly the same for any nexus, all the way back to the nexus one. they had no idea that marshmallow would change things. what we can do as people is inform others of the changes.
Look at it from a beginners standpoint, which this site is always going to have plenty of. For them to know all that you mentioned is asking a lot. I am no longer going to bicker with everyone in this thread. Just wanted to help the beginners and share my view point as a beginner. I have learned a lot and appreciate all those that contribute to this site. Looking forward to rooting my phone and trying out some roms. Have a good day all.
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Someone has to do something about this. Beginners like myself are bricking their phones every day and getting frustrated.
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I can imagine your disappointment or frustration. But I can't agree with this post.
New things or methods do not need to work immediately for 100%. It is a process of creating, trial and error. And make things better every time. Stopping this process is fortunately impossible, but it should be also wrong. Because it's a free choice for everyone to be a part of it or not.
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then you have to think when it was written.. before marshmallow. before marshmallow, rooting was exactly the same for any nexus, all the way back to the nexus one. they had no idea that marshmallow would change things. what we can do as people is inform others of the changes.
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I can imagine your disappointment or frustration. But I can't agree with this post.
New things or methods do not need to work immediately for 100%. It is a process of creating, trial and error. And make things better every time. Stopping this process is fortunately impossible, but it should be also wrong. Because it's a free choice for everyone to be a part of it or not.
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So you believe that labeling a root method with the version of Android it works for and which version the method knowingly soft bricks you phone is not a good idea? Brilliant.
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So you believe that labeling a root method with the version of Android it works for and which version the method knowingly soft bricks you phone is not a good idea? Brilliant.
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well, if you root marshmallow the way you root any other nexus before marshmallow, it wont soft brick the device, it just wont gain root. i guess a soft brick is possible, but thats an easy fix. if it hard bricked devices, then thats a different story. but a soft brick can happen in a typical day of modding your device, and learning to fix a soft brick should be done before ever rooting your device.
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Someone has to do something about this. Beginners like myself are bricking their phones every day and getting frustrated. Sure there is a fix but with how hard this is to learn for beginners its really frustrating.
Edit: This was meant to try to help beginners understand that the chainfire root method is for Lollipop and not for Marshmallow. I do not believe this should be taken down, just labeled for Lollipop so beginners don't soft brick their phones using this guide on a phone with Marshmallow.
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Just read. Seriously. The last 10-20 pages of that thread are non-stop warnings and info, repeated over and over and over and over.
When you follow a guide, check the date, check the versions applicable, and read recent commentary for up-to-date information. If that is two hard, XDA DEVELOPERS is too hard for you...
Lets not encourage people to rampantly flash anything unless it has flashing red warnings... That is the wrong mentality. People should learn enough to understand what they are doing, not just be encouraged to follow the flashing red arrows.
We have the guide that we have, because it was the last one someone took the time to write, or because no one has written one the matches it since. All the information is in it... Even if you maybe have to read more then one post.
If you don't make something better, you have little right to complain. Its open source community development. We only have the things people made for us.
how i see any android mods or ways you do things.. if its 1 month or older, i assume that its out of date first. if no newer ways exist, then i try it. but i always make a backup in my recovery first, just in case. things move by within android relatively fast, so one month old can easily be out of date.
OK everyone. I get it. I am a beginner and should have gained complete knowledge of everything rooting and Android before starting this process.
I started this thread to try to help beginners that seem to, on a daily basis, use the chainfire root method on Marshmallow and soft brick their phones. Nothing more, nothing less. If having interest in helping these guys out before they go down the wrong road is wrong then tell me what is right. I am walking away from this thread as nothing good will come of it.
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OK everyone. I get it. I am a beginner and should have gained complete knowledge of everything rooting and Android before starting this process.
I started this thread to try to help beginners that seem to, on a daily basis, use the chainfire root method on Marshmallow and soft brick their phones. Nothing more, nothing less. If having interest in helping these guys out before they go down the wrong road is wrong then tell me what is right. I am walking away from this thread as nothing good will come of it.
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theres much good that has come from this thread already!
anyways, i learned all that i could learn before i ever first rooted(to an extreme maybe). i started with android two weeks before the g1 ever was released(got mine two weeks early). at the time, nobody knew anything about android. so, we all learned along the way. before rooting, i became the leader in the biggest android forums(at the time). only about 6 months after, i rooted my g1, before any legit root method ever existed. we learned, and we taught.. before any real methods existed. now that there are real methods, they change constantly as well, so we keep on learning and teaching