Had OD and loved having it rooted. (My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb) Had to upgrade to Bionic and while I love it am missing root.
I've been searching online and between info about root and the upcoming ICS update I am getting confused.
Should I root now and wait for ICS? Or wait for ICS then root?
It seems pretty likely that there will be ICS based ROMs available long before Motorola gets around to releasing an official OTA update.
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(My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb)
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You need not be rooted at all. If you don't know exactly what you're doing, you should NOT be rooted because you WILL brick your phone.
If you really want to be rooted, you need to do some research and get more familiar with it, what it's for, how it works, and what it can do to your phone.
You probably want to be pretty familiar with ADB too.
I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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Yea I understand about going back. I had to go back just to get the webtop working in 5.7.893. I did the incremental one and lost webtop. used the R3l3AS3DRoot_Windows_V2.1 to go back to the 886 then used the single file update to 5.7 and everything works great. I would probably root if I could get free wifi hotspot so I could use my XOOM thru my phone cause I don't want to pay the hotspot or extra for more 4G bandwidth for my XOOM since my phone is unlimited
I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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Even if you did do it by yourself, if you don't know where to go from there, I wouldnt do it.
Its fun seeing the ROMs that are put out but unless that tutor is available I wouldnt do it. Bricking your phone isnt cool.
Rooting really isn't that big a deal once you have some idea what you are doing.
I have had 3 rooted phones and have rooted/jailbroke/hacked just about every other electronic device in my entire house at one point or another.
Do your research, and make sure you follow the instructions. Of course it also helps if you are familiar with ADB and a command shell so you know what the commands you are running actually do too.
Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Exactly. Motorola will have to start all over with Blur, that is gonna take forever. Rooting a phone with a decent developer community will always mean you have access to the new toys well before the OTA updates.
At the OP, You should have also ran the 43V3R root when you did R3L3AS3DRoot. I'm not an expert on android software and rooting but when I had my X2 I did some minimal research and haven't ran into any problems. When I got my Bionic I rooted it within the first 20 min of getting it. The tools that Dhacker put out (R3L3AS3DRoot, etc.) are amazing and rather easy for someone who is less experienced. They also make it nearly impossible to brick your phone as you can just run it again to get back to stock. Not to say you should just rush into things with reckless abandon.
If you do some research and read EVERYTHING that a developer provides as a guide to flashing their ROM, mod, hack, etc. you'll most likely be ok. Just do everything in small steps. As to your question about ICS though, do like I said. I know it's a pain but backup all your apps and run the R3L3AS3DRoot again, but then also run 43V3R root and intall Cheesecake. All of these can be done with the same tool. Then flash the 5.7.893 update and bam, you have the latest version and your still rooted. You may have to reinstall Super User from the market though.
As far as how useful having a rooted phone is, it all depends on what you will actually take advantage of. One of the simplest things is to just flash a custom ROM and enjoy the changes the developer has made. Liberty is top notch and I would reccomend it to a "newb". Personally I am quite satisfied with stock and would rather customize everything to my own personal satisfaction. If you go that route there are still great things out there. I'm using the V8 Supercharger script and ROM toolbox. TBH I'm not really sure what I'm doing with scripts but there was a good guide for the V8S one and I would highly suggest ROM toolbox. You can use it to install custom fonts, boot animations, download and install custom ROMs (though I think it only supports liberty (haven't tested it)) freeze or uninstall bloatware apps. Basically it's about 10 or so apps in one and it's very user friendly.
Wow this is getting way longer than I planned so here's the:
TL;DR
Do research til you feel comfortable. Read EVERYTHING any developer gives you as a guide. Don't rush into things. And looks at all your options. Rooting gives you access to a few neat tools and hacks to get everything you can out of your phone. Just keep R3L3AS3DRoot handy and you have a very low chance of completely bricking your phone. Also as a disclaimer, I'm not responsible if you completely wreck your phone.
Edit: Adding some links to helpful reads.
FAQs, highly recommend.
List of all ROMs and most tools, etc.
UOT Kitchen, very user friendly way to theme your phone. PM me if you want to use this because there are certain things you must do and things you cannot do.
Hope I have helped a bit.
R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R Root were easier than expected.
I say go for root that update is a few months away anyways just make sure you know what you're doing.
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I ordered me a Captivate and it's shipped from MD and should be here Thursday, but in the mean time, I'm doing research on what to do and how to do it.
I found the one click root..Does it work for the newest Captivates??
Lag Fix?? What is it and how do I fix it?
Roms..I'm coming from a G1..Is flashing a rom on the Captivate anything like the G1??
Will the upgrade from a G1 to a Captivate be very noticeable???LOL
Thanks folks
~SMurf
Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
Agree, it works fine with stock rom and launcher pro. So happy after using those crappy wm devices
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i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
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Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
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You'll get different answers. There are people who say theirs works find. But I'm in the camp that believes all are bad, and that you just need to be in the right circumstances to experience the problem.
But I can't imagine that it won't be fixed.
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Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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Got a link for that?? Is it in the market??
I appreciate the help, and seeing as the Captivate does have it's issues, I'm hoping it's gonna be a good phone..lol
I'm coming from a G1/TP2 and was excited to only pay $10 for mine..Yes I had to sign a new 2 year contract but hey..I got the money..lol
In reference to the Captivates UI and replacing it with LauncherPro, would GDE work just as good?? I do like LauncherPro but I find GDE to be more visually pleasing.
Thanks for teh info.
~SMurf
SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
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SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
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Got my Captivate today and love it so far. I did root it with an update.zip from a friends captivate and have superuser installed. Should i go ahead and flash Clockwork? Also, i have live walpapers on my sd card but i cant get to them. Any help?
What about sideloading? I did the adb commands all the way thru correctly but it want let me install apps. Do I have to go thru adb with the install command?
I appreciate the help guys. Thanks
Berserk87 said:
Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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i'm in the same boat as the OP and i'm wondering when you upgrade the firmware to 2.2, will you lose all the stuff you've done to the phone (like the mods and stuff)?
OK folks...Having an issue.
I rooted my phone, and I'm trying to get side loading to work...or some sort of app installing thing to work. I tried to flash clockwork but apparently it didn't work(hit with an error after reoping the app) and for some reason Superuser app keeps crashing and none of my apps and get root...Did I unroot it??
I tried to use the "Unleash The Beast" update.zip and thats when everything starting going bonkers..Can I go to stock and start over??
Yes you can flash back to stock with the Odin One Click Downloader...then I'd run one of the update.zips that roots and installs other tools like Busybox etc., just take your time and read the instructions before you try anything new. There are 2 versions of Odin so make sure you have the one from the One Click Downloader post (the other is for flashing roms and kernals, not restoring to stock), and install the android sdk and learn some basic adb commands ( adb reboot recovery, adb reboot download,makes life so much easier). With a little time you'll get the hang of it...just watch out for driver issues and make sure you follow the instructions and you really can't brick the phone. Odin is your friend and you need it anyways to flash back to stock before you try some of the new fixes, mods etc. GL, I won't be around much now as I am forced to sell my phone due to being unemployed but I'm already scheming to get a new one from Amazon for a penny lol.
EDIT: I read the post for Unleash the beast and it says its ok if your already rooted so I don't think that was the problem. Your best bet is to get to a PC or laptop and use Odin to flash back to stock (once your in download mode and the phone is recognized, it really is one click lol) then run Unleash the beast again. If you can't get su to work in the terminal app then you don"t have root, but you do have superuser permissons installed so I'm kinda at a loss. Might as well get used to flashing back to stock anyways if you like to hack and try new things lol I used Odin at least 20 times over the course of a few days!
after reading your edit post, I'm much happier..LOL
I'm fine with reflashing to stock as long as Titanium does my back ups. I was gonna reflash tonight and do as suggested. I'm also fine with Adb. I'm coming from a G1 and Adb is very familiar to me..LOL
Thanks for the info and help and you'll prolly get a Pm from me if I'm stuck..LOL
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I spent hours per day for weeks reading through this and other forums I advise you to read read read and read some more before you do anything to it that way you will understand everything a bit better and remember.
for every action there is a reaction
After I found out I was getting one,I searched and read and read some more. I'm comfortable with Adb and the terminal, and after reading about the not so easy to brickness,I'm sorta happier..LOL
I do have an issue tho with Clockwork. After I installed rom manager, I flashed the recovery and rebooted. It booted into clockwork but I didn't know what else to do. I flashed my G1 on almost a daily basis and understand the update.zip files...but where do I get it? I did my backup and its still on my SD card but I'm still using the stock recovery. Do I flash my backup?
I've got my phone just about how I want it and all I'm waiting for are the Rome and 2.2 along with everyone else..lol
Thanks for the help.
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alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
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alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
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Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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wow thank you for posting that!! i went to check it out and it looks awesome! i mean ive always been on xda and browsed androidforums but never dl anything androidforums. always trusted xda but im sure they are the same and have different resources . so whats this clockwork you speak of lol. i am a noob on android. is that to boost speed or something?
EDIT: i was reading that thread and seems ppl are having issues with wifi tethering. is urs working fine?
OK, I'm confident I can root my bionic, but then what? The reason I want to root it is to have control of what's running. What is the interface like? How easy will it be to do that? Are there any tutorials, videos or links on that kind of thing? Thanks.
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OK, I'm confident I can root my bionic, but then what? The reason I want to root it is to have control of what's running. What is the interface like? How easy will it be to do that? Are there any tutorials, videos or links on that kind of thing? Thanks.
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first, rooting does nothing to your phone . it just gains you root access to your phone. there is a lot of stuff you can do once you have root. install custom roms, different themes, run scrips , make nandroid backups, lots of diferent tweeks and hacks. i would recomend starting out small and working your way up. there are a few apps you will need from the market as well. bionic bootstap and root exsplorer just to name a few. go to droidmodderx/bionic he has alot of how to videos.
the reason i root is still install custom roms, and access to a lot of applications that you need root access for.
Basically, whenever your phone says NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT....rooting solves that.
I looked around there and there are good videos. But what about tools like 'titanium'? Does anyone have any experience with it? I want to be much more specific that waht I saw there. Thanks.
Wow. This is a pretty hard question to answer. I would say wikipedia and google are you friend. And I mean that in the most friendliest way possible.
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I looked around there and there are good videos. But what about tools like 'titanium'? Does anyone have any experience with it? I want to be much more specific that waht I saw there. Thanks.
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Titanium allows you to backup and restore your apps. If you have the paid version you can backup and restore multiple apps at a time. You do have to be rooted to use it.
As far as videos on how to root, I've never needed any. I've just read the directions several times when I first got into rooting until I felt comfortable with the process. I do highly recommend trying a custom rom if you do root. These guys usually do a better job than the manufacturers at putting together the Android operating system. Much faster and more customizations.
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If you have to ask "then what?" You should NOT be rooted.
Root access is VERY DANGEROUS for people who don't know what they're doing.
If you really want something done to your phone that requires root access, give your phone to someone who knows what theyre doing, have them do what needs to be done, then have them unroot your phone. (unless something they did requires root access at all times).
You need to look up how rooting works and what it can do to your phone.
Okay, so here I am all proud (and a little surprised) that I made the jump from a WM device to the REVO . . . excited about the opportunity to take advantage of the open source android architecture, and skim off some of the great work being done by apparently some of the leading chefs (is that a WM term?).
But now that I'm here, I'm thoroughly confused by it all and a little gun shy because I'm clearly a generation behind what's going on.
My situation is I have a stock REVO with ZV7 - never rooted . . . a "virgin-bread". I'm interested in rooting it and playing around a bit. I found my way through spl unlockers and custom ROMs okay on my WM device but there's just too much new stuff going on here:
WTF is a nandroid, a superuser, an ASOP? What's in a Revotoolkit? Do I back up my factory ROM before or after I root? How and why do I install recovery? What does clockworkmod do? Okay, you get the point?
So here's my question: Where TF is the dummy's guide to rooting this device? I know there's a lot of "download this, click on this .bat" stuff out there but I'm looking for the super-one-click that explains it all . . . slowly. Is that out there somewhere?
I know you kids are in the proverbial candy store this week with GB just out and all so I'll say thanks in advance to any of you who could help me do a little catching up.
There is a one click root process that installs super user and such, and I plan on working on it tonight to try to get it to install clockwork recovery at the same time and make it so it sticks. Of you want to Getty on irc tonight there are several guys on there that can help you out.
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I may not be the most knowledgeable, but I've been following the progress as it has occurred and I'll do my best to answer each of your questions.
Nandroid, from what I am aware, is the term for a backup of your current rom that you can create through CWR, or 'Clockwork Recovery Mod'. This is a mod that changes your recovery from the less useful stock recovery to the more useful CWR, which can be used to install new things to your phone and backup or restore roms.
Super user is the program that is put into place through rooting that allows you to selectively grant 'root access' to various programs. When the program wants access, it will pop up with a 'super user request' and you can allow or deny it. This root access will let certain apps do more, and for some apps, it is required for any functionality at all. (Such as root explorer, a file explorer, that will normally display the files on your phone in a read-only manner, but with root access, you can read and write files.)
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project, and is used to refer to elements that are the standard google code or some variation of it for a given element. These pieces tend to be faster and more stable than the custom lockscreens or dialers that some phones will use.
Revotoolkit is the app that allows a rooted user to install CWR (Clockwork recovery) onto their device, and it exists in large part because (from what i understand) the revolution's file system is a bit different from other phones, so we are not able to use the app ROM Manager which many other phones can use to install CWR and switch ROMS easily and such. Attempts to use rom manager result in non-functional phones, iirc.
In order to back up your stock rom, you will need CWR, and that requires root access to install, so you will back up the stock rom after you root the phone. This is a good idea, as if anything goes wron with your installation of a new rom or other component (theme, boot image, etc.) you can restore your backup and have the standard ROM again, but still with root access.
As above, you install recovery through the revotoolkit app, and you do so in order to be able to install custom roms and backup your existing rom, as well as being able to install themes or other 'flashable zips' that are made to be installed to a rooted phone through CWR. as noted above, installing recovery requires root.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, and i'll do my best to help! Everyone here is quite helpful and friendly, and we're glad to have another person on the revolution!
p.s., I am sure people will help correct me if any of this is unclear or incorrect
All that, and the big thing is that there is usually always someone who can help you in this community. While I myself cannot frequent it every night until 1am like I used to, there is still a community of helpers in IRC towards the evening where people can help you navigate and make sure you don't brick your device in all these processes.
In answer to the backup question, you can only backup after you root, because you have to be rooted to install the recovery that allows you to backup.
You started with an oddball in the Android world here. Nothing is the same for this particular phone when it comes to the modding community, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. We seem to have less issues and more stability. Because it's a smaller and distinct community, you get more help. Not as much of the "it's called search, use it" crowd.
Also, do a settings - about phone and make sure you're running the latest update (Android 2.3.4) - if you are and your phone is stock, then you are golden for modding. If not, wait until it gets to your phone, then start modding - it will save you some headache.
As for modding - if you have Microsoft on your phone, your not experiencing the true Android experience. Microsoft sucks on Android. If for no other reason, that's the biggest one to mod this phone.
Your missing out on Navigation, decent speech searching, and speech to navigate, etc, etc. And Verizon maps... bah! No one should pay for navigation.
Guys: Thanks. The info above really goes far with helping me wrap my head around it. I'm going to follow some of the the spider holes and see where they take me.
With regard to the forum member's willingness to help each other out, that's something I noticed right away since late August - which is when I picked up the phone and started lurking. You guys really do a great job of keeping it productive and the senior folks - obviously - are extremely responsive.
Thanks again. I'm planning to stick around and I'm looking forward to contributing a little further downstream.
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
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I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
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There is a root method in the development section. Check it out!
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Thanks MT. I'll probably take a crack
at this late tonite and feed back.
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I'm baffled as to what I did wrong during the initial root of zv7 software. I can't unroot, can't recover, can't root to zv8 or upgrade. I'm using MT's AIO root app and just can't seem to understand. I guess there's a reason I'm a noob. this is what i get:
unable to open log device "/dev/log/main" no such file or directory
And then from there it won't add new root files, remove trash etc.
Revolution zv7 zv8 help please!
I would like to just have CWM and Root access on ZV8. On rooted gingervolted zv7. Please help! I will donate money if I have to! I understand a person's time is worth something!
n00bzilla said:
I would like to just have CWM and Root access on ZV8. On rooted gingervolted zv7. Please help! I will donate money if I have to! I understand a person's time is worth something!
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Root only... update... rootzv8
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You can't keep gingervolt as of right now, but I'm sure a vz8 gingervolt will be coming out. I would first make sure you take an image with cmw before you do anything with your phone.
I first rooted the the device like in the first thread about maintaining root from vz7 to vz8 thread. It worked after I got LGNPST working, but I still wanted CWM. When MT came out with the script, I gave that a try but had permission issues. If you have an image you can restore to pre gingervolt, I would try that, then use MT's tool to apply stock recovery. I had to run the tool twice before it would take and I didn't get anything puking at me and I got stock recovery. Make sure you still have root. I then prepare for update, update, then apply root and cmw.
If you don't have a pre gingervolt image, Follow the instructions to put the vz7 tot back on your phone found here. Then root only. After you have root, I would then prep for vz8, update, then root and install cmw.
If everything is successful, I would take a post install image with cmw.
Thanks a bunch. I will get to this tonight and let you know the results. I have confidence it will work. Since I'm a noob, it won't let me post an image, but I'll upload it to photobucket and hyperlink. Thanks again! PM me your paypal and I will throw some scratch your way.
I'm new to this also so it is some trial and error. Just keep working at it. No need to send me any money. If you want to make a donation, send it to MT, Spc.Hicks or one of the other developers who keep this phone going.
Here's where I'm at with the process.
Still rooted on zv7. Tried to do stock recovery (unroot with zv7 stock rom) but wouldn't recognize my battery or sim card. I am only able to run rooted zv7 with GV 2.0 in order to use all functions of phone. Unable to update OTA to zv8. The stock zv7 will not work, therefore had to flash GV2.0 with root. The problems I had before was sound not working, music player plays, but no sound, and when the phone was on and the screen would turn off automatically, it wouldn't turn back on. The buttons along the bottom would light up, but no screen. It was at this point that I had to return to rooted zv7 with GV2.0.
The Update Process
Hey I had a lot of trouble coming from MT's 2.0 V7 to V8 Root with Revovery. Let me see if I can help. This method worked for me. Follow it if you like.
1. First start from scratch using LGPST and V7 .TOT. Just follow the instuctions from the [FIX] Updated by accident? thread by hilong08.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211295
I did have trouble installing the .dll. Just run the CMD as an administrator to install it without errors.
2. Run the old All in one from MT to root your phone only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348557
3. Once its rooted download terminal emulator from the market and do this
Type su and then enter you should see a "#". Next type echo 'ro.kernel.qemu=1' > /data/local.prop. It should create a file called local.prop in your /data directory.
you could manually do it with root explorer too.
4. Now wait for the Verizon OTA (over the air) update or manually search.
5. Now you should be on V8.
6. Run the AIO bat by MT to root and install CWM , option 2. I believe we manually did option 1 so theres no need to do it once on V8.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566729
7. You should be root with CWM. I thought I didnt install this right the first time after about 3 fresh installs over a period of 2 days. CWM is installed man, even if you dont see it, i had to use quick boot from the market to boot into revovery.
Another thing if your phone loses sound check your /data/local.prop and change it to local.prop.bak and reboot. I also had a problem and it was freaking me out.
good luck
Stop V8 notifications
If you want to keep your phone from trying to update while in V7, use root explorer to rename /system/lib/ libdme_main.so to libdme_main.bak; I renamed three days ago with no update notifications to date. http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1236896.html
I'm still not getting anywhere. I'm back to root with gv2.0 with no sound. I'm just afraid to do anything else. Can someone call me or do a remote session? I'm ****ing retarded.
No no no. Go to development section and flash the v8 tot. Easiest way to get to v8
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pdriscoll2 said:
If you want to keep your phone from trying to update while in V7, use root explorer to rename /system/lib/ libdme_main.so to libdme_main.bak; I renamed three days ago with no update notifications to date. http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1236896.html
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I'm actually considering going back to ginger volt 2.0. I really don't notice any differences on v8 except that I have a bunch of bloatware. I lost all the things I loved about my phone, like the number percentage on the battery status. now I have a huge E911 cross hair icon I can't seem to get rid of.
DelFrogo said:
I'm actually considering going back to ginger volt 2.0. I really don't notice any differences on v8 except that I have a bunch of bloatware. I lost all the things I loved about my phone, like the number percentage on the battery status. now I have a huge E911 cross hair icon I can't seem to get rid of.
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I hear you. I'm holding off until MT gets a new and stable Gingervolt released for it. My phone works just fine on V7 w/GV2.0. Why fix something that isn't broken?
Ok I finally got my phone back to stable working condition with gingervolt and root on zv7. Can someone tell me step-by-step how to stop the zv8 update? Were going to have to dig deep on this one. I'm shallow on my terminology, and have no clue if I even have root explorer, or how to use it. I really wish there were college classes on how to understand this stuff. I know it's linux based, but you really have to be passionate about this stuff to understand. If you guys wanted to know about bikes, I could tell you how to build one from scratch! To each their own i suppose. Thanks in advance for everyone's help getting me this far. I really do appreciate all your hard work.
Freeze ZV8 update
n00bzilla said:
Ok I finally got my phone back to stable working condition with gingervolt and root on zv7. Can someone tell me step-by-step how to stop the zv8 update? Were going to have to dig deep on this one. I'm shallow on my terminology, and have no clue if I even have root explorer, or how to use it. I really wish there were college classes on how to understand this stuff. I know it's linux based, but you really have to be passionate about this stuff to understand. If you guys wanted to know about bikes, I could tell you how to build one from scratch! To each their own i suppose. Thanks in advance for everyone's help getting me this far. I really do appreciate all your hard work.
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Noobzilla,
Here is how another user took care of the update. Take some time and look through the development section here as well. I know there are some ways to move to the update and maintain the root as well.
Originally Posted by brad6360 View Post
MT doesn't have GV working on V8 yet, but he's working on it. I used Titanium Backup to freeze my 'software update 1.0' app. There are other ways around it though that other people have posted.
Noobzilla
Lot of us are waiting for MT to release GV 2.1 with V8 update. I was in your boat and planning to go back to stock just to see how V8 updates looks like. After reading the forms a lot of us decide to wait for new release. I would honestly suggest to wait for few weeks, stock V8 has so much bloat that you may not like it. I would suggest to donate to MT and other developers because they really rock. Just my 2 cents.
Darn i didn't know about ur service sold my Yamaha R1
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Noob you need to get back all the way stock on zv7 so either use the zv7.tot file or flash the zv7 backup my has posted in the development section after you have flashed the zv7 backup your going to run the zv7 all in one and select unroot this will unroot and put stock recovery on your phone after you have stock recovery and no root your going to run Mrs new all in one to get you where you need to be I haven't done this yet so you may have to run the other all in one selecting the option root only then run the new all in one easiest way for help is getting on the irc channel you might have to wait a little bit for help but someone will show up. Also give thanks to mt for creating this all in one for you guys eliminating the need for you guys having to learn how to use adb but I encourage everyone to get the sdk and learn how to use adb as your next phone may not have options such as a all in one check out this thread in the thunderbolt forum on how to root unlock and install cwm recovery on it. It will really make you appreciate all the work my has put into making these all in ones the script doesn't know what to do until my has typed all this stuff already.
Here is the thunderbolt method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12159325 that's not exactly what's being done on the revolution but still a good read but imagine having to do all that to get root on your phone I encourage reading it as it will help you understand what's going on in a script that particular method was published by jcase who is an awesome exploit finder and this method includes getting temp root in order to flash an older hboot version allowing you to downgrade to a version that had already been unlocked and getting root there enabling you to get perma root and a unlocked bootloader and involves using a terminal and adb and will really get you comfortable with adb and appreciate all the keystrokes mt has saved you. *Also do not try that thunderbolt method on your revolution* I'm not positive what will happen but I am confident it will not be good.
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Sounds like everyone is waiting for MT to push a new version of GV. I have decided to do the same. I used Root Explorer to change the file extension of the update file. I did this about a day after my last post on this thread and had no problems. Running GV and flashing Fusion as we speak on ZV7. Phone works great. Thanks for everyone's help!
New Revo won't work with A I O, can't stand the bloat someone tell me please. Is anyone working on a root for this POS update.
oh im sure
im sure MT is on the job, but im sure a lil donatin to him would motivate him a lil.... but yeah anyway the thread "keep root through zv8" or whatever is still the only way that the general public knows about... but im sure u already knew that.
I figured as much about MT, (your the man) but i ask because my old revo worked fine with his AIO and maintain root method, but the new one i got that came pre-loaded with Zv8 wont, even after flashing several times back to zv7 and so on.
If you're readin this MT i am to poor to donate money but im willing to be a guinea pig. lol
HighLimit said:
I figured as much about MT, (your the man) but i ask because my old revo worked fine with his AIO and maintain root method, but the new one i got that came pre-loaded with Zv8 wont, even after flashing several times back to zv7 and so on.
If you're readin this MT i am to poor to donate money but im willing to be a guinea pig. lol
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There is something you aren't doing right even if on ZV8.. You can downgrade to ZV7, then Root only with the original AIO, then create the local.prop file then download the update, then use the 2nd AIO to maintain root, install CWM, then Broken Out.
I'm inclined to believe you because aio worked the first time but then zv8 would fail to regain root and install cwm it would say failed to find path, then flashing back with .tot to zv7 and even doin a factory reset back to stock and trying again now aio won't even root zv7 it just says failed to find path and runs through real quick, if you have any suggestions I would appreciate them.
And by the first time I mean I flashed back to zv7 rooted, flashed maintain root then ota updated then zv8 aio would fail
I have tried many processes over and over again and can recall once the first all in one wouldn't root my phone. I just did a factory reset then after reboot ran the lg-setup then flashed the v7.tot again then was able to root only after that reboot.
If that doesn't work, I don't know what will but good luck
Yah tried that, no luck, well see what mt comes up with. This is a new recertified phone and it has some wierd usb issues, everytime I reflash I have to reboot to be able to use change usb connection, plus now when flash tots I dont lose phone settings like I used to,
i have money!!!!
LaggyWizard said:
im sure MT is on the job, but im sure a lil donatin to him would motivate him a lil.... but yeah anyway the thread "keep root through zv8" or whatever is still the only way that the general public knows about... but im sure u already knew that.
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Money is something I have, root, I do not. It sounds like MT is the man when it comes to rooting. I would be glad to make a sizeable donation thru pay pal if I knew it would go directly to helping me game root access for my lg revolution running zv8.
See I would do the downgrading option everyone is talking about but those methods are only for pc ( I mean those download files ). I run a mac.
But seriously, I would love to have root. I used to use an iphone and was always jailbreaking. I love having that type of access so any help would be awesome!!
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Yah tried that, no luck, well see what mt comes up with. This is a new recertified phone and it has some wierd usb issues, everytime I reflash I have to reboot to be able to use change usb connection, plus now when flash tots I dont lose phone settings like I used to,
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That means nothing. I flash TOT's all the time and never loose settings or apps.
As for MT developing a root process for this phone, while I appreciate all the work he has put into this phone and his skill set, what he does and what root exploiters do are two entirely different things. MT is just gracious enough to create easy to use AIO scripts for everyone to use. I do not see a new root process coming unless another exploit is found and works on this phone.
If I am incorrect about this then MT can feel free to correct me.
Haxcid said:
That means nothing. I flash TOT's all the time and never loose settings or apps.
As for MT developing a root process for this phone, while I appreciate all the work he has put into this phone and his skill set, what he does and what root exploiters do are two entirely different things. MT is just gracious enough to create easy to use AIO scripts for everyone to use. I do not see a new root process coming unless another exploit is found and works on this phone.
If I am incorrect about this then MT can feel free to correct me.
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+1 For root all I have found is the exploit for keeping root through the update. As for writing a fresh exploit, there are a couple of guys that specialize in it. Jcase and djrbliss are 2 of the best around. The only problem I see is that zv8 has 0 access to the data partition without root, and so what other partitions are blocked. That is why the spectrum version does not work right off of the bat.
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Haxcid said:
That means nothing. I flash TOT's all the time and never loose settings or apps.
As for MT developing a root process for this phone, while I appreciate all the work he has put into this phone and his skill set, what he does and what root exploiters do are two entirely different things. MT is just gracious enough to create easy to use AIO scripts for everyone to use. I do not see a new root process coming unless another exploit is found and works on this phone.
If I am incorrect about this then MT can feel free to correct me.
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nevermind, just had to push cwm through adb still don't know why aio zv8 failed oh well im good now, and mt thanks for debloating and debingin. lovin broken out
Well I THINK I have found WHY I cant OTA ZV8
OK. I have found somthing interesting. I have 2 Revos. BOTH are now in test mode for reasons I am to embarrased to go into. (dang Noob screwups)
ANYWAY I was playing around in LGNPST last night and discovered the Warranty Date (assuming Expiration) on one phone was 4/4/12 Ironicly the same day I unbricked it using the Phonebook emergency recovery. (what puts the the phone in test mode. )
BOTH phones are flagged in my Verizon account (VZW online) as NON VZW Phones. (even though they originally were)
I am starting to think that when you do an emergency recovery you flag not only test mode but the warranty date & some Verizon flag as well. So while the phone is functional ALL Verizon support goes Bye Bye (I.E. OTA updates) EVEN if you flash back to Stock. I know that none of my old Not so smart phones will update past the Warranty date, I suspect this might be somthing similar.
Can anyone VERIFY this? I can SEE the potential problem but my skills stop there. (for now.) Can anyone tell me how I might be able to dig deeper?
I'd be happy with a rooted ZV8, let alone broken out, at this time.
I dont think anyone has figured a way around test mode yet except flashing back to zv4.
If it doesn't boot after flashing .tot:
1. Pull Battery and replace
2. push power and down until you get option to wipe
3. press power to confirm and reboot.
you will be stuck in zv4 and any flashing forward after that will put you back in test mode but at least you will be able to use your phone like normal until someone figures this out, but from what I read it appears improbable.
Yeah not looking good. Test mode I can live with it's the other issues thats killing me.
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I would like to see this happen but i am poor lol. Well i wouldnt mind sticking around for a root for V8 i dont mind waiting its just i dont want to downgrade and loose everything on my phone. I would not mind being a beta tester either for it I would just like to root my damn phone.
ch4d said:
I would like to see this happen but i am poor lol. Well i wouldnt mind sticking around for a root for V8 i dont mind waiting its just i dont want to downgrade and loose everything on my phone. I would not mind being a beta tester either for it I would just like to root my damn phone.
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If you downgrade to Zv7 so you can root install cwm and eventually get to rooted Zv8 you will not lose anything on your phone if you do it correctly.
Just Flash the Zv7 Tot and use mt's AIO method, (stopping short of broken out)
if done correctly you will lose nothing.
Google LG_Esteem_root_v2_windows
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