Okay, so here I am all proud (and a little surprised) that I made the jump from a WM device to the REVO . . . excited about the opportunity to take advantage of the open source android architecture, and skim off some of the great work being done by apparently some of the leading chefs (is that a WM term?).
But now that I'm here, I'm thoroughly confused by it all and a little gun shy because I'm clearly a generation behind what's going on.
My situation is I have a stock REVO with ZV7 - never rooted . . . a "virgin-bread". I'm interested in rooting it and playing around a bit. I found my way through spl unlockers and custom ROMs okay on my WM device but there's just too much new stuff going on here:
WTF is a nandroid, a superuser, an ASOP? What's in a Revotoolkit? Do I back up my factory ROM before or after I root? How and why do I install recovery? What does clockworkmod do? Okay, you get the point?
So here's my question: Where TF is the dummy's guide to rooting this device? I know there's a lot of "download this, click on this .bat" stuff out there but I'm looking for the super-one-click that explains it all . . . slowly. Is that out there somewhere?
I know you kids are in the proverbial candy store this week with GB just out and all so I'll say thanks in advance to any of you who could help me do a little catching up.
There is a one click root process that installs super user and such, and I plan on working on it tonight to try to get it to install clockwork recovery at the same time and make it so it sticks. Of you want to Getty on irc tonight there are several guys on there that can help you out.
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I may not be the most knowledgeable, but I've been following the progress as it has occurred and I'll do my best to answer each of your questions.
Nandroid, from what I am aware, is the term for a backup of your current rom that you can create through CWR, or 'Clockwork Recovery Mod'. This is a mod that changes your recovery from the less useful stock recovery to the more useful CWR, which can be used to install new things to your phone and backup or restore roms.
Super user is the program that is put into place through rooting that allows you to selectively grant 'root access' to various programs. When the program wants access, it will pop up with a 'super user request' and you can allow or deny it. This root access will let certain apps do more, and for some apps, it is required for any functionality at all. (Such as root explorer, a file explorer, that will normally display the files on your phone in a read-only manner, but with root access, you can read and write files.)
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project, and is used to refer to elements that are the standard google code or some variation of it for a given element. These pieces tend to be faster and more stable than the custom lockscreens or dialers that some phones will use.
Revotoolkit is the app that allows a rooted user to install CWR (Clockwork recovery) onto their device, and it exists in large part because (from what i understand) the revolution's file system is a bit different from other phones, so we are not able to use the app ROM Manager which many other phones can use to install CWR and switch ROMS easily and such. Attempts to use rom manager result in non-functional phones, iirc.
In order to back up your stock rom, you will need CWR, and that requires root access to install, so you will back up the stock rom after you root the phone. This is a good idea, as if anything goes wron with your installation of a new rom or other component (theme, boot image, etc.) you can restore your backup and have the standard ROM again, but still with root access.
As above, you install recovery through the revotoolkit app, and you do so in order to be able to install custom roms and backup your existing rom, as well as being able to install themes or other 'flashable zips' that are made to be installed to a rooted phone through CWR. as noted above, installing recovery requires root.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, and i'll do my best to help! Everyone here is quite helpful and friendly, and we're glad to have another person on the revolution!
p.s., I am sure people will help correct me if any of this is unclear or incorrect
All that, and the big thing is that there is usually always someone who can help you in this community. While I myself cannot frequent it every night until 1am like I used to, there is still a community of helpers in IRC towards the evening where people can help you navigate and make sure you don't brick your device in all these processes.
In answer to the backup question, you can only backup after you root, because you have to be rooted to install the recovery that allows you to backup.
You started with an oddball in the Android world here. Nothing is the same for this particular phone when it comes to the modding community, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. We seem to have less issues and more stability. Because it's a smaller and distinct community, you get more help. Not as much of the "it's called search, use it" crowd.
Also, do a settings - about phone and make sure you're running the latest update (Android 2.3.4) - if you are and your phone is stock, then you are golden for modding. If not, wait until it gets to your phone, then start modding - it will save you some headache.
As for modding - if you have Microsoft on your phone, your not experiencing the true Android experience. Microsoft sucks on Android. If for no other reason, that's the biggest one to mod this phone.
Your missing out on Navigation, decent speech searching, and speech to navigate, etc, etc. And Verizon maps... bah! No one should pay for navigation.
Guys: Thanks. The info above really goes far with helping me wrap my head around it. I'm going to follow some of the the spider holes and see where they take me.
With regard to the forum member's willingness to help each other out, that's something I noticed right away since late August - which is when I picked up the phone and started lurking. You guys really do a great job of keeping it productive and the senior folks - obviously - are extremely responsive.
Thanks again. I'm planning to stick around and I'm looking forward to contributing a little further downstream.
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
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I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
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There is a root method in the development section. Check it out!
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Thanks MT. I'll probably take a crack
at this late tonite and feed back.
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I ordered me a Captivate and it's shipped from MD and should be here Thursday, but in the mean time, I'm doing research on what to do and how to do it.
I found the one click root..Does it work for the newest Captivates??
Lag Fix?? What is it and how do I fix it?
Roms..I'm coming from a G1..Is flashing a rom on the Captivate anything like the G1??
Will the upgrade from a G1 to a Captivate be very noticeable???LOL
Thanks folks
~SMurf
Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
Agree, it works fine with stock rom and launcher pro. So happy after using those crappy wm devices
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i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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Is there a date or estimate for froyo??
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Samsung expects the gps fix at the end of spetember and i think they said froyo by that time also...or was it an update at that time? I'm positive about the gps thing but not the froyo.
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Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
micro2112 said:
Awesome, I just got home with my captivate, but wish it had froyo..
about that gps thing, is that on every phone or just some?
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You'll get different answers. There are people who say theirs works find. But I'm in the camp that believes all are bad, and that you just need to be in the right circumstances to experience the problem.
But I can't imagine that it won't be fixed.
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Another thing that you might want to do is install SuperRooterExtreme. It roots the phone & installs lag fix & enables side loading & a bunch more all at once. I put it on my wifes & my phone with great results. Vastly improved performance. My quadrant score went from 900 something to over 2000. I also have a G1 and the captivate rules over it.
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Got a link for that?? Is it in the market??
I appreciate the help, and seeing as the Captivate does have it's issues, I'm hoping it's gonna be a good phone..lol
I'm coming from a G1/TP2 and was excited to only pay $10 for mine..Yes I had to sign a new 2 year contract but hey..I got the money..lol
In reference to the Captivates UI and replacing it with LauncherPro, would GDE work just as good?? I do like LauncherPro but I find GDE to be more visually pleasing.
Thanks for teh info.
~SMurf
SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
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SRE is available in the Captivate Android Development section of these forums. Just make sure you read read read everything first so you don't freak out if you run into problems lol. These phones are hard to brick so flash away. ADW Launcher is another homescreen replacement that has FREE themes you can download and use and its easily found when you search the market. Grab Rom Manager and Titanium Backup as well and you should be ready to go nuts after you root. Some of the downloads in the development section root the phone for you while they also install lag fixes etc. but I'd wait to see how you like the phone before you bother with a lag fix or GPS fix. My GPS is fine but I did use a lag fix because the phone drove me nuts after being used to a tweaked Nexus One for a few months.
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Got my Captivate today and love it so far. I did root it with an update.zip from a friends captivate and have superuser installed. Should i go ahead and flash Clockwork? Also, i have live walpapers on my sd card but i cant get to them. Any help?
What about sideloading? I did the adb commands all the way thru correctly but it want let me install apps. Do I have to go thru adb with the install command?
I appreciate the help guys. Thanks
Berserk87 said:
Step 1 : replace touchUI with launcher pro.
Step 2 : wait for the froyo rom to be released.
The lag fixes give you a slight improvment but don't give you much of a real world performance increase, i'd just wait until froyo gets released in a couple weeks.
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i'm in the same boat as the OP and i'm wondering when you upgrade the firmware to 2.2, will you lose all the stuff you've done to the phone (like the mods and stuff)?
OK folks...Having an issue.
I rooted my phone, and I'm trying to get side loading to work...or some sort of app installing thing to work. I tried to flash clockwork but apparently it didn't work(hit with an error after reoping the app) and for some reason Superuser app keeps crashing and none of my apps and get root...Did I unroot it??
I tried to use the "Unleash The Beast" update.zip and thats when everything starting going bonkers..Can I go to stock and start over??
Yes you can flash back to stock with the Odin One Click Downloader...then I'd run one of the update.zips that roots and installs other tools like Busybox etc., just take your time and read the instructions before you try anything new. There are 2 versions of Odin so make sure you have the one from the One Click Downloader post (the other is for flashing roms and kernals, not restoring to stock), and install the android sdk and learn some basic adb commands ( adb reboot recovery, adb reboot download,makes life so much easier). With a little time you'll get the hang of it...just watch out for driver issues and make sure you follow the instructions and you really can't brick the phone. Odin is your friend and you need it anyways to flash back to stock before you try some of the new fixes, mods etc. GL, I won't be around much now as I am forced to sell my phone due to being unemployed but I'm already scheming to get a new one from Amazon for a penny lol.
EDIT: I read the post for Unleash the beast and it says its ok if your already rooted so I don't think that was the problem. Your best bet is to get to a PC or laptop and use Odin to flash back to stock (once your in download mode and the phone is recognized, it really is one click lol) then run Unleash the beast again. If you can't get su to work in the terminal app then you don"t have root, but you do have superuser permissons installed so I'm kinda at a loss. Might as well get used to flashing back to stock anyways if you like to hack and try new things lol I used Odin at least 20 times over the course of a few days!
after reading your edit post, I'm much happier..LOL
I'm fine with reflashing to stock as long as Titanium does my back ups. I was gonna reflash tonight and do as suggested. I'm also fine with Adb. I'm coming from a G1 and Adb is very familiar to me..LOL
Thanks for the info and help and you'll prolly get a Pm from me if I'm stuck..LOL
Sent from my Captivate to the best site in the world.
I spent hours per day for weeks reading through this and other forums I advise you to read read read and read some more before you do anything to it that way you will understand everything a bit better and remember.
for every action there is a reaction
After I found out I was getting one,I searched and read and read some more. I'm comfortable with Adb and the terminal, and after reading about the not so easy to brickness,I'm sorta happier..LOL
I do have an issue tho with Clockwork. After I installed rom manager, I flashed the recovery and rebooted. It booted into clockwork but I didn't know what else to do. I flashed my G1 on almost a daily basis and understand the update.zip files...but where do I get it? I did my backup and its still on my SD card but I'm still using the stock recovery. Do I flash my backup?
I've got my phone just about how I want it and all I'm waiting for are the Rome and 2.2 along with everyone else..lol
Thanks for the help.
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alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
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alright... i was planning on getting my captivate today cuz ive been dying to get a new phone! coming from a tilt 2, flashed with a ROM from NRG, and running froyo (although it still feels very sluggish lol). i was gonna use my wife's upgrade but isn't eligible till sept 9!! if it were me i would pay the extra $75 on top of the 2 yr renewal but it is her upgrade =p. my question is similar to the OP. but i have a mac and im sure rooting and such is different. ive read in different forums and read read read and still feel uncertain.... ive also watched youtube vids on rooting but still not sure what is the most reliable program... any suggestions or possibly provide the one YOU used to root ur captivate? after rooting are there any other apps you need to dl? not talking about gps fix and all cuz i can wait on that. after rooting, when froyo comes along, will you need to re-root? will u lose everything if you update? before my tilt 2 i had iphone 2g and was very familiar with jailbreaking and all. so i have experience on flashing and jailbreaking and hoping rooting will be as easy =). thank you all for helping one another! keep up the great work!
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Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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smurfgod said:
Since your gonna be on a stock Captivate, you can just use the Unleash the Beast method. Its in the android dev section. Download of and rename it to update.zip and boot into recovery, and install the update. Then you'll be rooted and have the ability to sideload. After you do it, go to terminal and type such..then sideloading..or sideloader..its in the post, and you'll be good to go. Works for me...lol
I'm still trying to get clockwork to work..lol. If you flash Clockwork and can boot into it via the volume+power buttons, please pm me..lol
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wow thank you for posting that!! i went to check it out and it looks awesome! i mean ive always been on xda and browsed androidforums but never dl anything androidforums. always trusted xda but im sure they are the same and have different resources . so whats this clockwork you speak of lol. i am a noob on android. is that to boost speed or something?
EDIT: i was reading that thread and seems ppl are having issues with wifi tethering. is urs working fine?
Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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Check out the One Click Root thread in the Nexus S 4G Development section. See if that helps a little more. Your probably going to get flamed for posting this in this section, but oh well. Read that and try to get rooted first. Then if you need more help after that feel free to shoot me a PM and ill try to help you more. Read different threads as well, just search XDA for root NS4G. Hit me up if you need some help with anything.
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steveh552 said:
Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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I went through the exact same thing. If you start reading more threads it will start coming to you. When you root, you need the drivers (adb and fastboot) installed on your computer, they come with either pdanet or sdk which you can find the download links to with a quick search of the forums. Find the stickied section of NS4G dev section and those should have all the files you need. Cwm is Clockwork Mod Recovery. It is flashed after unlocking the bootloader using a command prompt. After rooting and flashing cwm, you boot into recovery(cwm) and follow the instructions from a root guide to flash your new rom. I think BuglessPete has a great tutorial on root and flashing a rom. Find that and you're good to go. Don't get discouraged. It is NOT as hard or complicated as it seems. You will be surprised at how simple these guys have made it for us newcomers. Make sure you give them a thanks.
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So it was a day from you know what. I got rooted first this morning, I did the first update that I wanted which was the blue market, epic fail. I spent the whole day trying to get my market to work again, no go. I had not backed up (stupid me) and when put that new market in it was a FC galore. I tried downloading other market apk's including the market that is due to be released and none would install. I ended up flashing the phone with Oxygen ROM. Now I have to get the phone back to the way I like it, lots of apps to download (not sure why they did not restore since I am set to back up/restore from google servers) and go from there.
I will be doing more I am sure, lots of reading to do. Thanks to the two of you.
Had OD and loved having it rooted. (My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb) Had to upgrade to Bionic and while I love it am missing root.
I've been searching online and between info about root and the upcoming ICS update I am getting confused.
Should I root now and wait for ICS? Or wait for ICS then root?
It seems pretty likely that there will be ICS based ROMs available long before Motorola gets around to releasing an official OTA update.
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(My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb)
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You need not be rooted at all. If you don't know exactly what you're doing, you should NOT be rooted because you WILL brick your phone.
If you really want to be rooted, you need to do some research and get more familiar with it, what it's for, how it works, and what it can do to your phone.
You probably want to be pretty familiar with ADB too.
I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
ichigo007 said:
I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
Tivo7 said:
If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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Yea I understand about going back. I had to go back just to get the webtop working in 5.7.893. I did the incremental one and lost webtop. used the R3l3AS3DRoot_Windows_V2.1 to go back to the 886 then used the single file update to 5.7 and everything works great. I would probably root if I could get free wifi hotspot so I could use my XOOM thru my phone cause I don't want to pay the hotspot or extra for more 4G bandwidth for my XOOM since my phone is unlimited
I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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Even if you did do it by yourself, if you don't know where to go from there, I wouldnt do it.
Its fun seeing the ROMs that are put out but unless that tutor is available I wouldnt do it. Bricking your phone isnt cool.
Rooting really isn't that big a deal once you have some idea what you are doing.
I have had 3 rooted phones and have rooted/jailbroke/hacked just about every other electronic device in my entire house at one point or another.
Do your research, and make sure you follow the instructions. Of course it also helps if you are familiar with ADB and a command shell so you know what the commands you are running actually do too.
Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Exactly. Motorola will have to start all over with Blur, that is gonna take forever. Rooting a phone with a decent developer community will always mean you have access to the new toys well before the OTA updates.
At the OP, You should have also ran the 43V3R root when you did R3L3AS3DRoot. I'm not an expert on android software and rooting but when I had my X2 I did some minimal research and haven't ran into any problems. When I got my Bionic I rooted it within the first 20 min of getting it. The tools that Dhacker put out (R3L3AS3DRoot, etc.) are amazing and rather easy for someone who is less experienced. They also make it nearly impossible to brick your phone as you can just run it again to get back to stock. Not to say you should just rush into things with reckless abandon.
If you do some research and read EVERYTHING that a developer provides as a guide to flashing their ROM, mod, hack, etc. you'll most likely be ok. Just do everything in small steps. As to your question about ICS though, do like I said. I know it's a pain but backup all your apps and run the R3L3AS3DRoot again, but then also run 43V3R root and intall Cheesecake. All of these can be done with the same tool. Then flash the 5.7.893 update and bam, you have the latest version and your still rooted. You may have to reinstall Super User from the market though.
As far as how useful having a rooted phone is, it all depends on what you will actually take advantage of. One of the simplest things is to just flash a custom ROM and enjoy the changes the developer has made. Liberty is top notch and I would reccomend it to a "newb". Personally I am quite satisfied with stock and would rather customize everything to my own personal satisfaction. If you go that route there are still great things out there. I'm using the V8 Supercharger script and ROM toolbox. TBH I'm not really sure what I'm doing with scripts but there was a good guide for the V8S one and I would highly suggest ROM toolbox. You can use it to install custom fonts, boot animations, download and install custom ROMs (though I think it only supports liberty (haven't tested it)) freeze or uninstall bloatware apps. Basically it's about 10 or so apps in one and it's very user friendly.
Wow this is getting way longer than I planned so here's the:
TL;DR
Do research til you feel comfortable. Read EVERYTHING any developer gives you as a guide. Don't rush into things. And looks at all your options. Rooting gives you access to a few neat tools and hacks to get everything you can out of your phone. Just keep R3L3AS3DRoot handy and you have a very low chance of completely bricking your phone. Also as a disclaimer, I'm not responsible if you completely wreck your phone.
Edit: Adding some links to helpful reads.
FAQs, highly recommend.
List of all ROMs and most tools, etc.
UOT Kitchen, very user friendly way to theme your phone. PM me if you want to use this because there are certain things you must do and things you cannot do.
Hope I have helped a bit.
R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R Root were easier than expected.
I say go for root that update is a few months away anyways just make sure you know what you're doing.
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hi, i recently acquired my sweet DROID 3, its my first smart phone and i would like to know the very specifics of rooting it.. im very tech savvy so dont hold the info back, i know how to root it (thanks to google) but am just very wary on what all i can do with a rooted phone (compared to an unrooted one) all replies are welcome. thank you
also, if i were to root, what apps (stock apps) should i get rid of to further enhance the performance of my phone?
Sorry if the title is misleading guys, if you want to know the easiest way to root your droid go to redmondpie.com
Custom firmware is the biggest reason to root. Others would include free tethering and removing pesky bloatware.
Honestly until you start playing with bootloaders and stuff it is hard to mess up a rooted phone. The worse you will have to do is a factory reset.
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accophox, i am aware of the benefits of rooting, and i know the steps to take, but in what order? and do you know the easiest way to get rid of all those crappy stock apps?
Another newbie here....
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!
nathanb131 said:
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!
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First, there really is no way to back up your phone without rooting it in the first place. If you do mess up badly, like bricking it, you can always use a program called RSD (found in the Droid 3 Android Development section) to restore the stock ROM.
If you aren't 100%, a ROM is basically the OS of your phone. Think of it as different versions of Linux (which is exactly what it is).
Second, as stated earlier, by simply rooting your phone, it's hard to mess it up. Rooting merely gives your phone additional permissions. Unless you start deleting stuff in Titanium backup, you are fine.
Third, One Click Root is very idiot proof. But I will run you through a very brief guide: Download and install the driver for your respective computer's OS here and download the latest version of Pete's One Click Root. http://www.psouza4.com/droid3/ Then, enable USB debugging by going under settings-> Applications-> Development, and checking the box. Assuming you have the correct drivers installed on your computer, you should plug your phone in and allow it to recognize the device and such. After it's all done, open up Pete's One Click Root and simply click Root My Phone. Let it do it's thing, then you are done.
Fourth, I never use Titanium Backup. To make a perfect back up of your device, download Rom Manager from the app marketplace. Then download the droid 3 bootstrap at http://goo.gl/b4b6L visit that link on your phone and make sure you have "Unknown Sources" checked under application settings on your phone. Open up Rom manager and Click the top option to get the correct version of ClockworkMod Recovery for your phone. Once that is done, open up the bootstrap application you just installed and click the top option (bootstrap recovery) wait for it to say Success! then click the second option. Your phone will reboot. Using the volume buttons on the side of your phone as up and down and the power button to select options, scroll down to Backup and Restore on CWM menu that popped up (it's blue). Select Backup. Note: Make sure your battery is at least 75%. Allow it to do it's thing, it will take a while. When it is done, click Reboot Now. You now have a perfect backup of your current system.
Fifth, Debloating your phone is kind of risky, at least in my opinion. A safer option is to install an app called Script Manager and download and run the script found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 Instead of removing your bloat, it simply renames it and prevents it from starting up. It also comes with an option to reverse the changes if you want bloat back.
Finally, I would recommend following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056 to installing Steel Droid V3. Steel Droid is a simple Rom that doesn't require you to wipe all your data and is still pretty neat. I would run the script I mentioned earlier AFTER flashing to Steel Droid though.
Looking back, that is a **** load of text. I typed it all for you so I hope you get some use out of it
Have fun customizing your phone!
It may sound a little mean but go start reading threads. If someone tells you step by step, great you've done it but do you have any idea what you've done. All the info is in these threads. Its ridiculous how much I've learned reading every thread I can since I joined in august. When you don't understand what it is you're doing, that's when you goof **** up and post help me threads
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Thanks. You guys are awesome!
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Slayer621 - a thousand thanks for the baby steps! Best walkthrough I've seen and exactly what I needed to know!
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No problem! Just make sure you are careful. Don't do anything without checking on these forums for the possible outcomes. Deleting a seemingly useless file could make your phone a paper weight!
Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
dirtyjersey856 said:
Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
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Here's a Pixel 7 Pro guide. The principles remain the same.
Rooting is a little different than old school nexus twrp days. You can't just flash a zip for root. On the p7 you have to extract the init_boot.img from the factory image, patch it using magisk, and fastboot flash it. (There may be other solutions, but this works for sure.)
Here is a guide... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rooted-my-pixel-7.4505525/
And this is a good kernel to try if you want to go that route - once you are rooted you can flash it through a kernel manager app and it will retain root... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-2023-03-16-unified-pixel7-pixel7pro.4543551/
Have fun!
dirtyjersey856 said:
Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
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The thread in the quoted post directly below this sentence is the premiere guide to all the major points of going off stock experience for the Pixel 7's. It will answer much, if not all, of your questions...
Lughnasadh said:
Here's a Pixel 7 Pro guide. The principles remain the same.
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O.J. Simpson said:
And this is a good kernel to try if you want to go that route - once you are rooted you can flash it through a kernel manager app and it will retain root... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-2023-03-16-unified-pixel7-pixel7pro.4543551/
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One caveat you should know about flashing a custom kernel on the Pixel 7's is that you have to disable verity & verification -- which will require you to wipe your device, just for the first time -- but you will also have to put into the command to disable verity and verification every time you update through a Full Factory image.
You'll definitely be told this, so I'll be the first to tell you that using badabing2003's PixelFlasher is a GUI that will automate almost anything you'd wish to flash & do for your Pixel -- from unlocking, to firmware updating, to rooting, to custom kernals, to custom ROMs, to OTAs, and more. If you ever feel overwhelmed or want a simpler method with an interface, that is your best bet.
*Although he and I would suggest you going over roirraW "edor" ehT's guide to familiarize yourself with the methods and reasonings behind what he put a GUI to automate & do...
Happy hunting!