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Hows it going you guys? this is my first post in the Droid X forum. Im sorry if im posting incorrectly or in the wrong section. Im currently a G1 owner but looking to make the switch to verizon. Having a hard time debating weather to get the Incredible or the X. I'm seeing all kinds or information out there talking about what you can and cant do but nothing is very clear yet. Looking to get a few questions answered. Hopefully the information here will help other gromets like myself to get a better understanding what this whole efuse/bootloader thing means to us.
So with root access, i can do everything im am used to with root?
like run apps that require super user permissions,
run metamorph,
wifi tether,
run adb to push files and run scripts
And with out the bootloader capabilities, i can not:
load custom roms
nandroid backup
run setCPU?
Am i correct in these findings? Am i missing anything? Any help would be greatly appreciated. If there is already a post that covers all of these topics, please, mods, move this there.
Thank you so much in advance.
Correct!
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'SetCPU' may be possible, if you're referring to overclocking in general. =p I don't know if SetCPU works with the way the Milestone is overclocked, but if it does, then SetCPU should work.
Why wouldn't nandroid backup work without bootloader? Worked on milestone as well without bootloader...
The question I have is then: what can a ROM do that root can't? If I can remove crap and change to sense UI with root (right?), then why is a rom needed, except for kernel changes?
Having root means you can customize the current rom on your phone to your hearts content (not that some of it will be easy). it prevents you from loading other roms that people have made, ones that would include the sense ui, 2.2+, etc. some of the heavier customizations and functionality will require more changes or code bases than can be changed in root.
Thats so great you guys. I think im willing to work without the custom roms for now. as long as i can do all the other things mentioned. but i dont see anywhere in the threads on how to gain root/SU access.
cavz903 said:
Thats so great you guys. I think im willing to work without the custom roms for now. as long as i can do all the other things mentioned. but i dont see anywhere in the threads on how to gain root/SU access.
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They have not gained root access yet.
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They have not gained root access yet.
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wait, i beleive thats where us gromets are getting confused.
so how are we able to:
like run apps that require super user permissions,
run metamorph,
wifi tether,
run adb to push files and run scripts?
A loadable kernel module hack like what's done on the Milestone should be possible.
SetCPU will run and change frequencies with just straight root - but no overclocking.
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A loadable kernel module hack like what's done on the Milestone should be possible.
SetCPU will run and change frequencies with just straight root - but no overclocking.
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so with straight root, we can do these things right?
run apps that require SU permissions (like metamorph, clearme, autokiller, etc.)
run ADB to push files and remove system apps
wifi tether (non verizon $20/mo)
But there is still no straight root access available yet.
is this correct?
not metamorph i believe we need nand unlocked
The only way i see you getting to do the things you're wanting to within a year is by going with the incredible, we already have root and are on the verge of having a cracked bootloader, The milestone came out the same time as the moto droid (or roughly the same time i can't remember) but is still not rooted and the DroidX has the same bootloader so i don't see a root anytime soon
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The only way i see you getting to do the things you're wanting to within a year is by going with the incredible, we already have root and are on the verge of having a cracked bootloader, The milestone came out the same time as the moto droid (or roughly the same time i can't remember) but is still not rooted and the DroidX has the same bootloader so i don't see a root anytime soon
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Garrett-
thank you so much for your informative answer. but im still shady on some parts.
i thought we had "root only" available, which was the same as the milsestone. And the only thing we were missing was access to the bootloader which blocked us from running custom roms. Is that incorrect? Are none of the tasks i mentioned "at all" possible at this time?
Thank you so much for your insight.
cavz903 said:
Garrett-
thank you so much for your informative answer. but im still shady on some parts.
i thought we had "root only" available, which was the same as the milsestone. And the only thing we were missing was access to the bootloader which blocked us from running custom roms. Is that incorrect? Are none of the tasks i mentioned "at all" possible at this time?
Thank you so much for your insight.
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The Milestone has been rooted, but its encrypted bootloader has not been cracked, leaving it with no custom roms.
The Droid X has not been rooted yet, nor has its similarly encrypted bootloader been cracked.
I have a Nexus One and a friend has an Incredible. Both still have locked bootloaders and both are running custom ROM's. I cannot say if that will be the case with the X, but I would like to think it would be. Once I had root on my N1 I was able flash an alternate recovery which allows me to load any ROM I choose. See this thread for more info, this is the method that I used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
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I have a Nexus One and a friend has an Incredible. Both still have locked bootloaders and both are running custom ROM's. I cannot say if that will be the case with the X, but I would like to think it would be. Once I had root on my N1 I was able flash an alternate recovery which allows me to load any ROM I choose. See this thread for more info, this is the method that I used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
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I'm weighing in here but I'm not an expert so please correct if I'm wrong.
The reason that the Incredible is able to load a custom ROM is that they found a way to do a "temporary unlock" of nand which allows us to load a custom recovery. This custom recovery allows for the the temporary unlock which is required to load a new ROM. When the phone is rebooted nand relocks.
So, while we are able to load custom ROMs on the Incredible it's because unrevoked figured out how to temporarily unlock nand. With the encryption on the milestone and Droid X bootloaders they haven't figured out how to do this temporary (or permanent) unlock - thus no custom ROMs.
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So, while we are able to load custom ROMs on the Incredible it's because unrevoked figured out how to temporarily unlock nand. With the encryption on the milestone and Droid X bootloaders they haven't figured out how to do this temporary (or permanent) unlock - thus no custom ROMs.
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very informative. Thanks!
Garrett07 said:
The only way i see you getting to do the things you're wanting to within a year is by going with the incredible, we already have root and are on the verge of having a cracked bootloader, The milestone came out the same time as the moto droid (or roughly the same time i can't remember) but is still not rooted and the DroidX has the same bootloader so i don't see a root anytime soon
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It's amazing what a day makes, as the Droid X is now rooted. Why did it take so much longer to root the Milestone? Well, no one cares about England. Just kidding, but the customer base for the Milestone, I would assume, is much smaller then that of the Droid, and similarly the Droid X, so you're going to see a lot more people working on the Droid X.
i have been thinking abour rooting my phone for awhile but i have a couple of questions.
1. is there any prep i need to do before i root.
2. will i loose anything if i root.
3. do i need to save my stuff on the computer like pics contacts videos etc.
4. what will happen with my apps settings and all.
5. how do i choose which rom to choose and how do i tell the difference between them.
i think thats all for now thanks in adavance
I had these same questions just three days ago. I was able to root my device with one of the guides here on the forums. Rooting is pretty straight forward and for this portion you wont have to do anything crazy except backing up pictures and essential files should you mess something up.
As for roms, I used the cognition 2.3b8 that can be found on these forums. That and because you can install it using rom manager. Good luck and read the guide. Also check youtube.
Pretty straight forward since they have the one click root/indoors for our phones...google one click root for captivate or on here and if u need more help you tube it up...good luck
1) No
2) No
3) No
4) Nothing
5) Nobody can really answer this for you. Check out the different ROM threads and decide which one you'd like the most. I can tell you that I've used most posted here and my favorite, though highly modified by me, is Assonance. For installing a new ROM then numbers 3 and 4 will change to yes and unless you don't mind losing it, don't expect anything will be saved, but back things up beforehand. Always.
Before loading a ROM download and get used to "Titanium Backup" and "Rom Manager".
Just download z4root ..search the forums..its an EASY app that let's you root your phone from the phone...just run the app and click root ...it will reboot and that's it
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The Captivate FAQ site should answer all your questions, and has instructions:
http://capfaq.com/w/Root
Cheers...
ok last question i think. i have launcher pro plus and ive changed my icons to how i like them will i need to redo everything after i root and install a rom or will it stay the same and just change the internal stuff?
and z4root wont let me do it cause it says my phone blocks apps not in the market place.
I'd run the one found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
Very simple to root your phone doing it this way. And worse comes to worse you could just copy the update.zip into your SDCard and run it under your recovery menu on your phone.
You will not lose your setting or icons in launcher pro by rooting.
Please explain your comment on z4 root. What are you doing that gets you to that comment.
You can also try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
bjballar41 said:
ok last question i think. i have launcher pro plus and ive changed my icons to how i like them will i need to redo everything after i root and install a rom or will it stay the same and just change the internal stuff?
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I have custom icons for my LP+ and I don't need to do them over as long as I use Titanium Backup and backup LP+ and data.
Does rooting do anything to the market ID? I basically want to root so I can eliminate the pre-loaded bloat, install non-Market apps, and do full backups. Will this interfere with getting any AT$T updates, especially Froyo when it eventually is released?
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Does rooting do anything to the market ID? I basically want to root so I can eliminate the pre-loaded bloat, install non-Market apps, and do full backups. Will this interfere with getting any AT$T updates, especially Froyo when it eventually is released?
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device Id will probably change, but all you have to do is while on the stock rom download android id changer from market and save your stock device id. Then after rom is flashed install android id changer and load your id and change it back to the original.
You will likely have to be at stock in order to use at&t ota updates.
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device Id will probably change, but all you have to do is while in stock rom use android id changer and save your stock device id. Then after rom is flashed install android id changer and load your id and change it back to the original.
You will likely have to be at stock in order to use at&t ota updates.
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Like I said, I only want to gain access to other apps and controls. I do NOT want to flash a custom ROM. Does rooting alone change the Market ID or is that only a consequence of ROM flashing? Also, all the instructions direct you to put the phone into USB debugging mode, b ut they don't say whether to turn this off when done rooting. Is that done automatically?
No rooting does not effect your id. Rooting is easy and safe. It is what you do after youroot that can get sticky
I give you a week or two tops, then you will be asking what is the best custom rom
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No rooting does not effect your id. Rooting is easy and safe. It is what you do after youroot that can get sticky
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Thanks for that.
I give you a week or two tops, then you will be asking what is the best custom rom
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And have my thread locked in seconds? No thanks.
thats the one i used and i rooted it i downloaded ti-bu fixen to get ready to back it up. i was trying to do the z4root and i guess i was sideloading it from the page on here and it said that cause i couldnt find it on the market place.
ok so i rooted my phone using the one click root for a mac i did the titanium back up now im looking for custom rom to do not sure what i should do next or how to do it im looking at how to load a custom rom on a captivate from unlockr.com and he is using rom manager and im wondering if i need to go that way or what?
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ok so i rooted my phone using the one click root for a mac i did the titanium back up now im looking for custom rom to do not sure what i should do next or how to do it im looking at how to load a custom rom on a captivate from unlockr.com and he is using rom manager and im wondering if i need to go that way or what?
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You only have a mac? Do you have a windows pc at your house or near by?
Rom manager is what you are going to use
nope mac only no pc at all is that gonna be a problem? mcord11758 i just wanna say thanks for all the help u have given me since i got this phone. and do i need odin?
Okay, so here I am all proud (and a little surprised) that I made the jump from a WM device to the REVO . . . excited about the opportunity to take advantage of the open source android architecture, and skim off some of the great work being done by apparently some of the leading chefs (is that a WM term?).
But now that I'm here, I'm thoroughly confused by it all and a little gun shy because I'm clearly a generation behind what's going on.
My situation is I have a stock REVO with ZV7 - never rooted . . . a "virgin-bread". I'm interested in rooting it and playing around a bit. I found my way through spl unlockers and custom ROMs okay on my WM device but there's just too much new stuff going on here:
WTF is a nandroid, a superuser, an ASOP? What's in a Revotoolkit? Do I back up my factory ROM before or after I root? How and why do I install recovery? What does clockworkmod do? Okay, you get the point?
So here's my question: Where TF is the dummy's guide to rooting this device? I know there's a lot of "download this, click on this .bat" stuff out there but I'm looking for the super-one-click that explains it all . . . slowly. Is that out there somewhere?
I know you kids are in the proverbial candy store this week with GB just out and all so I'll say thanks in advance to any of you who could help me do a little catching up.
There is a one click root process that installs super user and such, and I plan on working on it tonight to try to get it to install clockwork recovery at the same time and make it so it sticks. Of you want to Getty on irc tonight there are several guys on there that can help you out.
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I may not be the most knowledgeable, but I've been following the progress as it has occurred and I'll do my best to answer each of your questions.
Nandroid, from what I am aware, is the term for a backup of your current rom that you can create through CWR, or 'Clockwork Recovery Mod'. This is a mod that changes your recovery from the less useful stock recovery to the more useful CWR, which can be used to install new things to your phone and backup or restore roms.
Super user is the program that is put into place through rooting that allows you to selectively grant 'root access' to various programs. When the program wants access, it will pop up with a 'super user request' and you can allow or deny it. This root access will let certain apps do more, and for some apps, it is required for any functionality at all. (Such as root explorer, a file explorer, that will normally display the files on your phone in a read-only manner, but with root access, you can read and write files.)
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project, and is used to refer to elements that are the standard google code or some variation of it for a given element. These pieces tend to be faster and more stable than the custom lockscreens or dialers that some phones will use.
Revotoolkit is the app that allows a rooted user to install CWR (Clockwork recovery) onto their device, and it exists in large part because (from what i understand) the revolution's file system is a bit different from other phones, so we are not able to use the app ROM Manager which many other phones can use to install CWR and switch ROMS easily and such. Attempts to use rom manager result in non-functional phones, iirc.
In order to back up your stock rom, you will need CWR, and that requires root access to install, so you will back up the stock rom after you root the phone. This is a good idea, as if anything goes wron with your installation of a new rom or other component (theme, boot image, etc.) you can restore your backup and have the standard ROM again, but still with root access.
As above, you install recovery through the revotoolkit app, and you do so in order to be able to install custom roms and backup your existing rom, as well as being able to install themes or other 'flashable zips' that are made to be installed to a rooted phone through CWR. as noted above, installing recovery requires root.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask, and i'll do my best to help! Everyone here is quite helpful and friendly, and we're glad to have another person on the revolution!
p.s., I am sure people will help correct me if any of this is unclear or incorrect
All that, and the big thing is that there is usually always someone who can help you in this community. While I myself cannot frequent it every night until 1am like I used to, there is still a community of helpers in IRC towards the evening where people can help you navigate and make sure you don't brick your device in all these processes.
In answer to the backup question, you can only backup after you root, because you have to be rooted to install the recovery that allows you to backup.
You started with an oddball in the Android world here. Nothing is the same for this particular phone when it comes to the modding community, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. We seem to have less issues and more stability. Because it's a smaller and distinct community, you get more help. Not as much of the "it's called search, use it" crowd.
Also, do a settings - about phone and make sure you're running the latest update (Android 2.3.4) - if you are and your phone is stock, then you are golden for modding. If not, wait until it gets to your phone, then start modding - it will save you some headache.
As for modding - if you have Microsoft on your phone, your not experiencing the true Android experience. Microsoft sucks on Android. If for no other reason, that's the biggest one to mod this phone.
Your missing out on Navigation, decent speech searching, and speech to navigate, etc, etc. And Verizon maps... bah! No one should pay for navigation.
Guys: Thanks. The info above really goes far with helping me wrap my head around it. I'm going to follow some of the the spider holes and see where they take me.
With regard to the forum member's willingness to help each other out, that's something I noticed right away since late August - which is when I picked up the phone and started lurking. You guys really do a great job of keeping it productive and the senior folks - obviously - are extremely responsive.
Thanks again. I'm planning to stick around and I'm looking forward to contributing a little further downstream.
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
doctorhook said:
I too am new at this and got my revolution 2 months ago but did not know about this site until 2 days ago but my phone did an update yesterday, so one click dont work on my phone. But I am willing to wait and work with any to help root my phone......thanks alot guys
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There is a root method in the development section. Check it out!
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Thanks MT. I'll probably take a crack
at this late tonite and feed back.
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Had OD and loved having it rooted. (My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb) Had to upgrade to Bionic and while I love it am missing root.
I've been searching online and between info about root and the upcoming ICS update I am getting confused.
Should I root now and wait for ICS? Or wait for ICS then root?
It seems pretty likely that there will be ICS based ROMs available long before Motorola gets around to releasing an official OTA update.
kimeee said:
(My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb)
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You need not be rooted at all. If you don't know exactly what you're doing, you should NOT be rooted because you WILL brick your phone.
If you really want to be rooted, you need to do some research and get more familiar with it, what it's for, how it works, and what it can do to your phone.
You probably want to be pretty familiar with ADB too.
I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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Yea I understand about going back. I had to go back just to get the webtop working in 5.7.893. I did the incremental one and lost webtop. used the R3l3AS3DRoot_Windows_V2.1 to go back to the 886 then used the single file update to 5.7 and everything works great. I would probably root if I could get free wifi hotspot so I could use my XOOM thru my phone cause I don't want to pay the hotspot or extra for more 4G bandwidth for my XOOM since my phone is unlimited
I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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Even if you did do it by yourself, if you don't know where to go from there, I wouldnt do it.
Its fun seeing the ROMs that are put out but unless that tutor is available I wouldnt do it. Bricking your phone isnt cool.
Rooting really isn't that big a deal once you have some idea what you are doing.
I have had 3 rooted phones and have rooted/jailbroke/hacked just about every other electronic device in my entire house at one point or another.
Do your research, and make sure you follow the instructions. Of course it also helps if you are familiar with ADB and a command shell so you know what the commands you are running actually do too.
Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Exactly. Motorola will have to start all over with Blur, that is gonna take forever. Rooting a phone with a decent developer community will always mean you have access to the new toys well before the OTA updates.
At the OP, You should have also ran the 43V3R root when you did R3L3AS3DRoot. I'm not an expert on android software and rooting but when I had my X2 I did some minimal research and haven't ran into any problems. When I got my Bionic I rooted it within the first 20 min of getting it. The tools that Dhacker put out (R3L3AS3DRoot, etc.) are amazing and rather easy for someone who is less experienced. They also make it nearly impossible to brick your phone as you can just run it again to get back to stock. Not to say you should just rush into things with reckless abandon.
If you do some research and read EVERYTHING that a developer provides as a guide to flashing their ROM, mod, hack, etc. you'll most likely be ok. Just do everything in small steps. As to your question about ICS though, do like I said. I know it's a pain but backup all your apps and run the R3L3AS3DRoot again, but then also run 43V3R root and intall Cheesecake. All of these can be done with the same tool. Then flash the 5.7.893 update and bam, you have the latest version and your still rooted. You may have to reinstall Super User from the market though.
As far as how useful having a rooted phone is, it all depends on what you will actually take advantage of. One of the simplest things is to just flash a custom ROM and enjoy the changes the developer has made. Liberty is top notch and I would reccomend it to a "newb". Personally I am quite satisfied with stock and would rather customize everything to my own personal satisfaction. If you go that route there are still great things out there. I'm using the V8 Supercharger script and ROM toolbox. TBH I'm not really sure what I'm doing with scripts but there was a good guide for the V8S one and I would highly suggest ROM toolbox. You can use it to install custom fonts, boot animations, download and install custom ROMs (though I think it only supports liberty (haven't tested it)) freeze or uninstall bloatware apps. Basically it's about 10 or so apps in one and it's very user friendly.
Wow this is getting way longer than I planned so here's the:
TL;DR
Do research til you feel comfortable. Read EVERYTHING any developer gives you as a guide. Don't rush into things. And looks at all your options. Rooting gives you access to a few neat tools and hacks to get everything you can out of your phone. Just keep R3L3AS3DRoot handy and you have a very low chance of completely bricking your phone. Also as a disclaimer, I'm not responsible if you completely wreck your phone.
Edit: Adding some links to helpful reads.
FAQs, highly recommend.
List of all ROMs and most tools, etc.
UOT Kitchen, very user friendly way to theme your phone. PM me if you want to use this because there are certain things you must do and things you cannot do.
Hope I have helped a bit.
R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R Root were easier than expected.
I say go for root that update is a few months away anyways just make sure you know what you're doing.
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hi, i recently acquired my sweet DROID 3, its my first smart phone and i would like to know the very specifics of rooting it.. im very tech savvy so dont hold the info back, i know how to root it (thanks to google) but am just very wary on what all i can do with a rooted phone (compared to an unrooted one) all replies are welcome. thank you
also, if i were to root, what apps (stock apps) should i get rid of to further enhance the performance of my phone?
Sorry if the title is misleading guys, if you want to know the easiest way to root your droid go to redmondpie.com
Custom firmware is the biggest reason to root. Others would include free tethering and removing pesky bloatware.
Honestly until you start playing with bootloaders and stuff it is hard to mess up a rooted phone. The worse you will have to do is a factory reset.
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accophox, i am aware of the benefits of rooting, and i know the steps to take, but in what order? and do you know the easiest way to get rid of all those crappy stock apps?
Another newbie here....
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!
nathanb131 said:
I know the usual answer to this question is to search around this site and learn before we try these things. However, if someone could direct me to some general guide for new people for initial backing up I'd really appreciate it. It's really hard to keep all the jargon straight with all these great answers. So many assumptions are made with your abbreviated descriptions, just want clarification. This is maybe the silliest of questions and apparently the answer is obvious to most people on here because I can't find the answer.
Question:
Is there is a mostly bulletproof way of saving an image of my current D3 so that if I brick it then I can fully recover where I am now (or just back to factory once I use titanium backup)? Is that what 'safestrap' or clockwork recovery does?
I want to know if I can backup my current un-rooted state and restore it with very little risk. After that then I will just learn from poking around on here. What I THINK I want to do is this (if someone is still reading this far I will forever be in your debt if you let me know if I'm missing a step).
1. Fully backup unrooted phone in current state.
2. One-click root (I've been tempted to just do that but am afraid of doing any such thing until backup is done)
3. Buy titanium backup to always be able to restore my apps and data independent of the system files.
4. Try to debloat, see if that gets it to snappy enough...if not...
5. Probably install liberty rom...if this disables things like my corporate exchange sync then do the walk of shame back to step 1....
I really want to play with this thing, I'm willing to deal with the glitches and learn what you know....just need to know if there's a point of no return!
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First, there really is no way to back up your phone without rooting it in the first place. If you do mess up badly, like bricking it, you can always use a program called RSD (found in the Droid 3 Android Development section) to restore the stock ROM.
If you aren't 100%, a ROM is basically the OS of your phone. Think of it as different versions of Linux (which is exactly what it is).
Second, as stated earlier, by simply rooting your phone, it's hard to mess it up. Rooting merely gives your phone additional permissions. Unless you start deleting stuff in Titanium backup, you are fine.
Third, One Click Root is very idiot proof. But I will run you through a very brief guide: Download and install the driver for your respective computer's OS here and download the latest version of Pete's One Click Root. http://www.psouza4.com/droid3/ Then, enable USB debugging by going under settings-> Applications-> Development, and checking the box. Assuming you have the correct drivers installed on your computer, you should plug your phone in and allow it to recognize the device and such. After it's all done, open up Pete's One Click Root and simply click Root My Phone. Let it do it's thing, then you are done.
Fourth, I never use Titanium Backup. To make a perfect back up of your device, download Rom Manager from the app marketplace. Then download the droid 3 bootstrap at http://goo.gl/b4b6L visit that link on your phone and make sure you have "Unknown Sources" checked under application settings on your phone. Open up Rom manager and Click the top option to get the correct version of ClockworkMod Recovery for your phone. Once that is done, open up the bootstrap application you just installed and click the top option (bootstrap recovery) wait for it to say Success! then click the second option. Your phone will reboot. Using the volume buttons on the side of your phone as up and down and the power button to select options, scroll down to Backup and Restore on CWM menu that popped up (it's blue). Select Backup. Note: Make sure your battery is at least 75%. Allow it to do it's thing, it will take a while. When it is done, click Reboot Now. You now have a perfect backup of your current system.
Fifth, Debloating your phone is kind of risky, at least in my opinion. A safer option is to install an app called Script Manager and download and run the script found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 Instead of removing your bloat, it simply renames it and prevents it from starting up. It also comes with an option to reverse the changes if you want bloat back.
Finally, I would recommend following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056 to installing Steel Droid V3. Steel Droid is a simple Rom that doesn't require you to wipe all your data and is still pretty neat. I would run the script I mentioned earlier AFTER flashing to Steel Droid though.
Looking back, that is a **** load of text. I typed it all for you so I hope you get some use out of it
Have fun customizing your phone!
It may sound a little mean but go start reading threads. If someone tells you step by step, great you've done it but do you have any idea what you've done. All the info is in these threads. Its ridiculous how much I've learned reading every thread I can since I joined in august. When you don't understand what it is you're doing, that's when you goof **** up and post help me threads
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Thanks. You guys are awesome!
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Slayer621 - a thousand thanks for the baby steps! Best walkthrough I've seen and exactly what I needed to know!
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No problem! Just make sure you are careful. Don't do anything without checking on these forums for the possible outcomes. Deleting a seemingly useless file could make your phone a paper weight!