Hows it going you guys? this is my first post in the Droid X forum. Im sorry if im posting incorrectly or in the wrong section. Im currently a G1 owner but looking to make the switch to verizon. Having a hard time debating weather to get the Incredible or the X. I'm seeing all kinds or information out there talking about what you can and cant do but nothing is very clear yet. Looking to get a few questions answered. Hopefully the information here will help other gromets like myself to get a better understanding what this whole efuse/bootloader thing means to us.
So with root access, i can do everything im am used to with root?
like run apps that require super user permissions,
run metamorph,
wifi tether,
run adb to push files and run scripts
And with out the bootloader capabilities, i can not:
load custom roms
nandroid backup
run setCPU?
Am i correct in these findings? Am i missing anything? Any help would be greatly appreciated. If there is already a post that covers all of these topics, please, mods, move this there.
Thank you so much in advance.
Correct!
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'SetCPU' may be possible, if you're referring to overclocking in general. =p I don't know if SetCPU works with the way the Milestone is overclocked, but if it does, then SetCPU should work.
Why wouldn't nandroid backup work without bootloader? Worked on milestone as well without bootloader...
The question I have is then: what can a ROM do that root can't? If I can remove crap and change to sense UI with root (right?), then why is a rom needed, except for kernel changes?
Having root means you can customize the current rom on your phone to your hearts content (not that some of it will be easy). it prevents you from loading other roms that people have made, ones that would include the sense ui, 2.2+, etc. some of the heavier customizations and functionality will require more changes or code bases than can be changed in root.
Thats so great you guys. I think im willing to work without the custom roms for now. as long as i can do all the other things mentioned. but i dont see anywhere in the threads on how to gain root/SU access.
cavz903 said:
Thats so great you guys. I think im willing to work without the custom roms for now. as long as i can do all the other things mentioned. but i dont see anywhere in the threads on how to gain root/SU access.
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They have not gained root access yet.
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They have not gained root access yet.
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wait, i beleive thats where us gromets are getting confused.
so how are we able to:
like run apps that require super user permissions,
run metamorph,
wifi tether,
run adb to push files and run scripts?
A loadable kernel module hack like what's done on the Milestone should be possible.
SetCPU will run and change frequencies with just straight root - but no overclocking.
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A loadable kernel module hack like what's done on the Milestone should be possible.
SetCPU will run and change frequencies with just straight root - but no overclocking.
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so with straight root, we can do these things right?
run apps that require SU permissions (like metamorph, clearme, autokiller, etc.)
run ADB to push files and remove system apps
wifi tether (non verizon $20/mo)
But there is still no straight root access available yet.
is this correct?
not metamorph i believe we need nand unlocked
The only way i see you getting to do the things you're wanting to within a year is by going with the incredible, we already have root and are on the verge of having a cracked bootloader, The milestone came out the same time as the moto droid (or roughly the same time i can't remember) but is still not rooted and the DroidX has the same bootloader so i don't see a root anytime soon
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The only way i see you getting to do the things you're wanting to within a year is by going with the incredible, we already have root and are on the verge of having a cracked bootloader, The milestone came out the same time as the moto droid (or roughly the same time i can't remember) but is still not rooted and the DroidX has the same bootloader so i don't see a root anytime soon
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Garrett-
thank you so much for your informative answer. but im still shady on some parts.
i thought we had "root only" available, which was the same as the milsestone. And the only thing we were missing was access to the bootloader which blocked us from running custom roms. Is that incorrect? Are none of the tasks i mentioned "at all" possible at this time?
Thank you so much for your insight.
cavz903 said:
Garrett-
thank you so much for your informative answer. but im still shady on some parts.
i thought we had "root only" available, which was the same as the milsestone. And the only thing we were missing was access to the bootloader which blocked us from running custom roms. Is that incorrect? Are none of the tasks i mentioned "at all" possible at this time?
Thank you so much for your insight.
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The Milestone has been rooted, but its encrypted bootloader has not been cracked, leaving it with no custom roms.
The Droid X has not been rooted yet, nor has its similarly encrypted bootloader been cracked.
I have a Nexus One and a friend has an Incredible. Both still have locked bootloaders and both are running custom ROM's. I cannot say if that will be the case with the X, but I would like to think it would be. Once I had root on my N1 I was able flash an alternate recovery which allows me to load any ROM I choose. See this thread for more info, this is the method that I used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
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I have a Nexus One and a friend has an Incredible. Both still have locked bootloaders and both are running custom ROM's. I cannot say if that will be the case with the X, but I would like to think it would be. Once I had root on my N1 I was able flash an alternate recovery which allows me to load any ROM I choose. See this thread for more info, this is the method that I used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
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I'm weighing in here but I'm not an expert so please correct if I'm wrong.
The reason that the Incredible is able to load a custom ROM is that they found a way to do a "temporary unlock" of nand which allows us to load a custom recovery. This custom recovery allows for the the temporary unlock which is required to load a new ROM. When the phone is rebooted nand relocks.
So, while we are able to load custom ROMs on the Incredible it's because unrevoked figured out how to temporarily unlock nand. With the encryption on the milestone and Droid X bootloaders they haven't figured out how to do this temporary (or permanent) unlock - thus no custom ROMs.
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So, while we are able to load custom ROMs on the Incredible it's because unrevoked figured out how to temporarily unlock nand. With the encryption on the milestone and Droid X bootloaders they haven't figured out how to do this temporary (or permanent) unlock - thus no custom ROMs.
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very informative. Thanks!
Garrett07 said:
The only way i see you getting to do the things you're wanting to within a year is by going with the incredible, we already have root and are on the verge of having a cracked bootloader, The milestone came out the same time as the moto droid (or roughly the same time i can't remember) but is still not rooted and the DroidX has the same bootloader so i don't see a root anytime soon
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It's amazing what a day makes, as the Droid X is now rooted. Why did it take so much longer to root the Milestone? Well, no one cares about England. Just kidding, but the customer base for the Milestone, I would assume, is much smaller then that of the Droid, and similarly the Droid X, so you're going to see a lot more people working on the Droid X.
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So I have been lurking for a few weeks and I have a HTC Hero that I want to root. But my question is what is the difference between rooting with UnrEVOked and rooting the way that this thread says forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
IS the difference just the difficult of the root?
And is unrevoked really just one click I haven't found much good info about it.
Thank you so much!
The thread you posted uses the unrevoked method. essentially read a little and what ever you feel is the easiest to understand then do that one.
oh ok. It didnt seem like the thread was the unrevoked method becasue theres are so many steps and unrevoked says its one click. Thats why i was confused.
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oh ok. It didnt seem like the thread was the unrevoked method becasue theres are so many steps and unrevoked says its one click. Thats why i was confused.
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universal androot is 1 click & worked great for me on 2 phones.
Thank you. I rooted the xda way with command prompt and all is wonderfull. Thank you for your clarification and help
I've fully rooted my own HTC evo and now I'm looking to root my mom's hero. My question though, is there any downside or limitations to rooting with these methods? Mainly, is this a full root or will that require additional steps?
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I've fully rooted my own HTC evo and now I'm looking to root my mom's hero. My question though, is there any downside or limitations to rooting with these methods? Mainly, is this a full root or will that require additional steps?
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No limitations, its more steps than the one click method but if you follow the directions it never fails, you run no risk of messing your phone up ( atleast I can't see how) ... any ways the unrevoked method has all the steps to get you rooted and will also help your understand the process and what root actually is.
But root is root doesn't matter how you do it they all lead to the same thing ... full control over your phone.
Ok, so with just one if those two methods the phone will be fully rooted to flash roms, kernels, custom recoveries, radios, and make nand backups? Can you remount and write to /system from within android? I fully understand rooting, just wasn't sure if any further steps were needed on the Hero. With the Evo it was a little more work to obtain full root.
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So, I've upgraded my Nexus One with the OTA from Google and I've lost root, is it anyway to root my device again? I want my crack back!! preferably without unlocking the bootloader, something like universal androot, or z4 root (none of them work, at least market versions), thx for your answers
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So, I've upgraded my Nexus One with the OTA from Google and I've lost root, is it anyway to root my device again? I want my crack back!! preferably without unlocking the bootloader, something like universal androot, or z4 root (none of them work, at least market versions), thx for your answers
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I guess the only way is to unlock the bootloader. Why do you want it locked anyways? I guess your warranty is long gone + HTC doesn't check the unlocked bootloader as far as i know.
After unlocking you can install a custom recovery and use su.zip ( its there in the android dev section ) and flash it.
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I guess the only way is to unlock the bootloader. Why do you want it locked anyways? I guess your warranty is long gone + HTC doesn't check the unlocked bootloader as far as i know.
After unlocking you can install a custom recovery and use su.zip ( its there in the android dev section ) and flash it.
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In guess I'll havce to unlock my bootloader then but I havent done it before so im kind of scared, just find it way more complicated doing it that way that whit the mentioned exploits, like universal androot: click root, install room manager, enjoy
You're kidding right? It takes 30 seconds to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and another minute to install a custom ROM and reboot. I had mine done as soon as I took it out of the shipping box.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER. All you have to do is roll back to a build of Froyo. Search for PASSIMG.zip. Apply that through the bootloader. Then you can root using Super One Click or any of the other methods and flash a rooted GB ROM.
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You're kidding right? It takes 30 seconds to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and another minute to install a custom ROM and reboot. I had mine done as soon as I took it out of the shipping box.
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..But an hour to learn about and set up the SDK first Once done though it makes life sooo much easier and gives you a lot more versatility.
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..But an hour to learn about and set up the SDK first Once done though it makes life sooo much easier and gives you a lot more versatility.
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That.
An hour might be more or less - depends on a user.
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YOU DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER. All you have to do is roll back to a build of Froyo. Search for PASSIMG.zip. Apply that through the bootloader. Then you can root using Super One Click or any of the other methods and flash a rooted GB ROM.
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I have to ask the question, why go to all that bother just to not have a unlocked padlock on the bootscreen when it really makes no difference?
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That.
An hour might be more or less - depends on a user.
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I think I can make it in less than an hour, lol, anyway, i just wanted to root again because i thought that after OTA the call wonkyness in CM7 got fixed, but it seems is still there, so I'll stay with official GB for a while or untill my abstinence syndrom comes back, and in that case ill try with passimg method just becuase it is a pain in the a55 to setup the SDK (I've done it before, too much data to download and Im currently reliying in thetering to have internet at home).Thnx for your answers.
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I have to ask the question, why go to all that bother just to not have a unlocked padlock on the bootscreen when it really makes no difference?
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The only benefit is aesthetics, if it really matters to you. I don't much care for the lockscreen, lol. Aside from that, you're right..unlocking the bootloader isn't any worse. It's just personal preference. My point is that you never HAVE to unlock the bootloader.
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shuflie said:
I have to ask the question, why go to all that bother just to not have a unlocked padlock on the bootscreen when it really makes no difference?
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To not have a ****ing unlock padlock
Also I don't like thing the easy way. I like "flash_image" instead of "bootloader"'s way of flashing images.
shuflie said:
I have to ask the question, why go to all that bother just to not have a unlocked padlock on the bootscreen when it really makes no difference?
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OMG!! Don't even mention it!! I can't stand open padlocks!!! they make me feel dirty!! like I have to wash my hands 20 times! LOL.
Seriously, I don't know, I just find it easier with exploits.
Having the bootloader unlocked is the easiest way to do anything.
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Still, for people who just want to root it with a 1-click method, what's the way to do it for 2.3.3?
I used rageagainstthecage for 2.2, then used SuperOneClick for 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 ..... What now with 2.3.3 ?
EDIT: I should mention that most users (like me) want to root their phones without flashing this and that, losing all data/preferences along the way. We just want our phone to be exactly how it is now, down to the last shortcut ...... but rooted!
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Still, for people who just want to root it with a 1-click method, what's the way to do it for 2.3.3?
I used rageagainstthecage for 2.2, then used SuperOneClick for 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 ..... What now with 2.3.3 ?
EDIT: I should mention that most users (like me) want to root their phones without flashing this and that, losing all data/preferences along the way. We just want our phone to be exactly how it is now, down to the last shortcut ...... but rooted!
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Gingerbreak... when it's released.
MitchRapp said:
Still, for people who just want to root it with a 1-click method, what's the way to do it for 2.3.3?
I used rageagainstthecage for 2.2, then used SuperOneClick for 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 ..... What now with 2.3.3 ?
EDIT: I should mention that most users (like me) want to root their phones without flashing this and that, losing all data/preferences along the way. We just want our phone to be exactly how it is now, down to the last shortcut ...... but rooted!
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It's already been stated, use PASSIMG.zip method to downgrade to 2.2 or whatever you'd like then root. There is currently no way to root a 2.3.3 ROM with any sort of 1 click.
There is, but it's not 1-click - having unlocked bootloader allows you to flash SU and change permissions accordingly.
Those demanding 1-click will have to wait until there is any 1-click solution - and this might take time.
I just tried unlocking my bootloader but it says I'm missing AdbWinApi.dll ... I have it though. I've used the SDK for rooting before without any errors like this. Must be my day...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781386
If you upgraded a rooted device - you can also try the "RErooting guide", in one of the threads where you've asked if it's wiping the whole device. It doesn't. But it might not work without unlocked bootloader - I'm not sure that locked fastboot allows you to boot non-stock, even to memory using "fastboot boot" command. If it does - it's a rooting option completely overlooked until now.
I am making this thread because I am seeing *far* too many people posting things when they have no idea what they do or when things are coming, or what things are possible with the phone at this point, so please take these answers into consideration when deciding to post either a new thread, or a reply to someone in an existing thread:
(Note: This thread will be continuously updated when more issues need to be addressed)
QUESTION NUMBER 1:
What can our phone do at this point (9/17/2011)?
At this point, our phones can do the following:
-Be rooted
-Use a bootstrap ClockworkMod Recovery
-Make nandroid backups
-Use the 2nd init booting process
QUESTION NUMBER 2:
What is bootstrap recovery?
Bootstrap recovery is an alternative form of recovery which "hijacks" the boot process and instead goes into a recovery mode that loads the ClockworkMod Recovery.
In order to boot into it, you *must* bootstrap it through the app on Android *every time you want to boot into recovery*.
QUESTION NUMBER 3:
What does having bootstrap recovery do for us?
With bootstrap recovery, we can do EVERYTHING that a normal recovery can do for us, *INCLUDING* installing ROMs and making nandroid backups.
QUESTION NUMBER 4:
Now that we have bootstrap recovery, does this mean we can use ROM Manager to install stuff?
No. No, no, no, a thousand times no. This is not an official 2nd init Recovery release from koush and ROM Manager WILL NOT work with the bootstrap version of recovery.
QUESTION NUMBER 5:
What is 2nd init?
2nd init is altering the init files in the system partition to take over the booting process so that we can load whatever we want to on boot. It is a way to get around the locking of the bootloader. This is also what allows CM7 to run on Moto phones with locked bootloaders.
QUESTION NUMBER 6 (this is the important one):
What does it mean when our bootloader is "locked"?
The bootloader being locked means that we are not allowed to flash unsigned images in fastboot or flash custom kernels to our phone that can alter features such as overclocking, or BFS, etc.
HOWEVER: This *does NOT* mean we cannot start making custom ROMs on our phone. The bootloader being locked has *nothing* to do with the system partition and custom ROMs are still completely viable and can be made and now freely distributed.
ALSO: There *are* ways to get around the fact that we cannot flash custom kernels. With 2nd init and kernel modules, we can freely get around the locked bootloader and even achieve features such as overclocking without having to flash a different kernel.
Please read this and understand this before you post.
very useful information here...there seems to be many in these forums that are new-to-root and this explains the current status very well. thanks for this and all of the help you have provided people already.
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I liked this thread since I just picked the bionic up yesterday, like it better than the Droid 3
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If your truly new to root i suggest waiting or reading alot before attempting anything here way to early to be rooting and have no idea what your doing that makes for a perfect bionic paperweight
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Bump-This needs a sticky.
topxshelfxtre said:
If your truly new to root i suggest waiting or reading alot before attempting anything here way to early to be rooting and have no idea what your doing that makes for a perfect bionic paperweight
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If you know what you're doing, there's not much risk...if you don't, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
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Berzerker7 said:
I am making this thread because I am seeing *far* too many people posting things when they have no idea what they do or when things are coming, or what things are possible with the phone at this point, so please take these answers into consideration when deciding to post either a new thread, or a reply to someone in an existing thread:
......Please read this and understand this before you post.
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Can you please include Pictures?
Forever root
Where can I find a link to Forever root and cheesecake?
Thankk you
Thanks
Nice write up. As a newbie I can't thank you enough for clearing those topics up in a short and sweet manner. Thanks!
this is the place for stupid questions?
im experienced (rooted droids) but total noob.
what is all the talk about 893 or 5.6something.
its seems totally differenent from ROMs but it looks like some say you need to have this # to use this rom and so forth. It looks also like people are screwing up there data with this stuff.
So...for people who want to Root&Rom is this stuff important? Where is info on what it actually is (893 and other #s)
covering my head and waiting for the smack...
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QUESTION NUMBER 4:
Now that we have bootstrap recovery, does this mean we can use ROM Manager to install stuff?
No. No, no, no, a thousand times no. This is not an official 2nd init Recovery release from koush and ROM Manager WILL NOT work with the bootstrap version of recovery.
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I was taking a look at the Bootstrap description on the market and it reads:
YOU MUST BE ROOTED TO USE THIS APPLICATION. FOR DROID BIONIC ONLY.
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS IF YOU AREN'T COMFORTABLE USING AN SBF!
Droid Bionic Recovery Bootstrap will set your phone up so you can access a custom recovery mode to create full backups of your phone and install new ROMs! Install ROM Manager afterwards for easy ROM installation and backup!
What does the developer mean by the last sentence of his description? Doesn't this conflict with FAQ #4? I'm just trying to make sense of everything before I begin using Roms... Thanks.
OK, I'm confident I can root my bionic, but then what? The reason I want to root it is to have control of what's running. What is the interface like? How easy will it be to do that? Are there any tutorials, videos or links on that kind of thing? Thanks.
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OK, I'm confident I can root my bionic, but then what? The reason I want to root it is to have control of what's running. What is the interface like? How easy will it be to do that? Are there any tutorials, videos or links on that kind of thing? Thanks.
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first, rooting does nothing to your phone . it just gains you root access to your phone. there is a lot of stuff you can do once you have root. install custom roms, different themes, run scrips , make nandroid backups, lots of diferent tweeks and hacks. i would recomend starting out small and working your way up. there are a few apps you will need from the market as well. bionic bootstap and root exsplorer just to name a few. go to droidmodderx/bionic he has alot of how to videos.
the reason i root is still install custom roms, and access to a lot of applications that you need root access for.
Basically, whenever your phone says NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT....rooting solves that.
I looked around there and there are good videos. But what about tools like 'titanium'? Does anyone have any experience with it? I want to be much more specific that waht I saw there. Thanks.
Wow. This is a pretty hard question to answer. I would say wikipedia and google are you friend. And I mean that in the most friendliest way possible.
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I looked around there and there are good videos. But what about tools like 'titanium'? Does anyone have any experience with it? I want to be much more specific that waht I saw there. Thanks.
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Titanium allows you to backup and restore your apps. If you have the paid version you can backup and restore multiple apps at a time. You do have to be rooted to use it.
As far as videos on how to root, I've never needed any. I've just read the directions several times when I first got into rooting until I felt comfortable with the process. I do highly recommend trying a custom rom if you do root. These guys usually do a better job than the manufacturers at putting together the Android operating system. Much faster and more customizations.
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If you have to ask "then what?" You should NOT be rooted.
Root access is VERY DANGEROUS for people who don't know what they're doing.
If you really want something done to your phone that requires root access, give your phone to someone who knows what theyre doing, have them do what needs to be done, then have them unroot your phone. (unless something they did requires root access at all times).
You need to look up how rooting works and what it can do to your phone.
Had OD and loved having it rooted. (My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb) Had to upgrade to Bionic and while I love it am missing root.
I've been searching online and between info about root and the upcoming ICS update I am getting confused.
Should I root now and wait for ICS? Or wait for ICS then root?
It seems pretty likely that there will be ICS based ROMs available long before Motorola gets around to releasing an official OTA update.
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(My sister's bf helped me. I'm more or less a newb)
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You need not be rooted at all. If you don't know exactly what you're doing, you should NOT be rooted because you WILL brick your phone.
If you really want to be rooted, you need to do some research and get more familiar with it, what it's for, how it works, and what it can do to your phone.
You probably want to be pretty familiar with ADB too.
I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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I am running the most current unreleased patch 5.7.893 and have not really read what I am really going to gain my rooting. If someone can tell me what I would get that would be worth rooting I will root. but running stock OTA roms specially the 5.7 has fixed most of what was wrong with the phone. I would if I was you just patch per instructions on here rootzwiki.com/topic/8562-easily-upgrade-to-57893-keep-root-and-webtop/ to get the fixes unless someone says there is something well risking rooting
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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If you are happy with what you have on your phone now, you shouldn't root.
Better to not take the chances.
Oh and...it takes a lot of manual coding to root for you now because the 893 kernel blocks all One-Click-Root programs from working. You have to do it all manually now, and you have to go back to 886 before you can root again anyway.
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Yea I understand about going back. I had to go back just to get the webtop working in 5.7.893. I did the incremental one and lost webtop. used the R3l3AS3DRoot_Windows_V2.1 to go back to the 886 then used the single file update to 5.7 and everything works great. I would probably root if I could get free wifi hotspot so I could use my XOOM thru my phone cause I don't want to pay the hotspot or extra for more 4G bandwidth for my XOOM since my phone is unlimited
I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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I didn't brick my last phone. Rooted all by myself. BF just pointed the way.
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Even if you did do it by yourself, if you don't know where to go from there, I wouldnt do it.
Its fun seeing the ROMs that are put out but unless that tutor is available I wouldnt do it. Bricking your phone isnt cool.
Rooting really isn't that big a deal once you have some idea what you are doing.
I have had 3 rooted phones and have rooted/jailbroke/hacked just about every other electronic device in my entire house at one point or another.
Do your research, and make sure you follow the instructions. Of course it also helps if you are familiar with ADB and a command shell so you know what the commands you are running actually do too.
Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Oh, and wait for ICS? C'mon you know XDA will have that at least 2-3 months before it get's an OTA update. [this is fact] <-- don't hold me to that.
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Exactly. Motorola will have to start all over with Blur, that is gonna take forever. Rooting a phone with a decent developer community will always mean you have access to the new toys well before the OTA updates.
At the OP, You should have also ran the 43V3R root when you did R3L3AS3DRoot. I'm not an expert on android software and rooting but when I had my X2 I did some minimal research and haven't ran into any problems. When I got my Bionic I rooted it within the first 20 min of getting it. The tools that Dhacker put out (R3L3AS3DRoot, etc.) are amazing and rather easy for someone who is less experienced. They also make it nearly impossible to brick your phone as you can just run it again to get back to stock. Not to say you should just rush into things with reckless abandon.
If you do some research and read EVERYTHING that a developer provides as a guide to flashing their ROM, mod, hack, etc. you'll most likely be ok. Just do everything in small steps. As to your question about ICS though, do like I said. I know it's a pain but backup all your apps and run the R3L3AS3DRoot again, but then also run 43V3R root and intall Cheesecake. All of these can be done with the same tool. Then flash the 5.7.893 update and bam, you have the latest version and your still rooted. You may have to reinstall Super User from the market though.
As far as how useful having a rooted phone is, it all depends on what you will actually take advantage of. One of the simplest things is to just flash a custom ROM and enjoy the changes the developer has made. Liberty is top notch and I would reccomend it to a "newb". Personally I am quite satisfied with stock and would rather customize everything to my own personal satisfaction. If you go that route there are still great things out there. I'm using the V8 Supercharger script and ROM toolbox. TBH I'm not really sure what I'm doing with scripts but there was a good guide for the V8S one and I would highly suggest ROM toolbox. You can use it to install custom fonts, boot animations, download and install custom ROMs (though I think it only supports liberty (haven't tested it)) freeze or uninstall bloatware apps. Basically it's about 10 or so apps in one and it's very user friendly.
Wow this is getting way longer than I planned so here's the:
TL;DR
Do research til you feel comfortable. Read EVERYTHING any developer gives you as a guide. Don't rush into things. And looks at all your options. Rooting gives you access to a few neat tools and hacks to get everything you can out of your phone. Just keep R3L3AS3DRoot handy and you have a very low chance of completely bricking your phone. Also as a disclaimer, I'm not responsible if you completely wreck your phone.
Edit: Adding some links to helpful reads.
FAQs, highly recommend.
List of all ROMs and most tools, etc.
UOT Kitchen, very user friendly way to theme your phone. PM me if you want to use this because there are certain things you must do and things you cannot do.
Hope I have helped a bit.
R3L3AS3DRoot and 43V3R Root were easier than expected.
I say go for root that update is a few months away anyways just make sure you know what you're doing.
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