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Do you guys think its still worth getting a G1 over a Hero(sprint)/Mytouch/Cliq?

I want to get a G1, then root it so that i can use sense and apps2sd.I know its not the best looking phone but its not all bad, i like the hardware keyboard.Right now i have a samsung instinct(sprint) so im used to on-screen keyboards, but this phone has given me headaches and whatnot..i want to know what you guys think is the best thing to get.

It's just personal prefrence really. The hardware keyboard is the only thing the G1 has over any other android phone out at the moment, the MyTouch/Magic/Sapphire/Ion is the same spec as the G1, just no keyboard. Personally I'd go for the Hero, because I don't use the hardware keybaord much (and HTC IME is awesome!) and it also has 288mb RAM to compared to 192 than all other android phones have (appart from the 32A Magic). Can't really comment on the Cliq, don't really know anything about it.

As far as what's out now and what's comming out in the near future, I'd definately go with the Hero, I remember reading on phandroid that T-Mobile should be getting one and I'm crossing my fingers for that. I've been playing with my G1 for quite a few months now, I'm ready for something new that will likely be able to get android 2.0 and show off some more great things that can be done with the OS

well if i had a choice i would like the cliq just because of the key board.but if i didn't want a keyboard, it would be hero for sure .but i need a keyboard ,i use it all the time ! once the click comes out i think it will have a good strong following !

we don't know of the cliq is rootable yet, and remember were talking about motorola here. Id wait a few months and see where it goes first as far as quality and development. I have both the MT3G and the G1. I like the touch better just because its thinner and nicer looking. It took about a week to get used to the virtual keyboard but like any new phone you get used to it the more you use it. As far as performance its about the same, since both are running the same roms and are set up identical. I haven't used my G1 since to be honest, I really like the MT3G. I don't know much about the hero to comment. If you want a keyboard then id just wait because there are more android phones about to be released real soon.

New ROM batches = bluetooth on G1?

All,
I know there are a bunch of folks out there with Tattoo and Hero 2.1 dumps cooking up some great new things. I was wondering, though - does any of this, especially Hero 2.1, offer hope to get BT working on G1s or will we face the same problems we did with the previous versions?
Thanks,
Vj99

firstly, this should really be in the QnA section
it is possible that bluetooth will be working to some extent now that the heros kernel source has been made open source
but we will probably need to wait for HTC to make the source available for 2.1
so probably not til its officially released unless there is some jiggery-pokery that can be done to make it work

I never could understand people's need to install proprietary UI's on their phones. And that is the only reason for possibly trying to install one of those incompatible builds.
Just stick with a build designed for DREAM and your bluetooth (as well as everything else) will work perfectly. No reason to beat your head against the wall when there is nothing to gain from it.

Always welcome people weighing in, but that said I have to say that any value of the replies is tempered by unnecessary comments about one's opinion that this should be elsewhere or wondering why someone would want something.
In short, I could phrase the same question 10 other ways and make it a development question. I also find other capabilities in these other firmwares that I value, so it is much more than a UI update.

[Q] Is Hero good for newbie

Hi Am switching to Sprint and want an android. I'm 55 years old and love to text. Is this a good choice to intro me to android world.(never had touch screen but I'm a fast learner) Text, internet and talk are the order of importance that I will use the phone for. I think the Evo would be too much to start with. Whats your expert opinion. Had a Nokia 6301 for last 2 years. Thanks in advance.

zoe1325 said:
Hi Am switching to Sprint and want an android. I'm 55 years old and love to text. Is this a good choice to intro me to android world.(never had touch screen but I'm a fast learner) Text, internet and talk are the order of importance that I will use the phone for. I think the Evo would be too much to start with. Whats your expert opinion. Had a Nokia 6301 for last 2 years. Thanks in advance.
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I was a Motorola RAZR user before switching to the Hero, so in terms of phone usage, technology platform, and priority of functions the phone provides, it was a big difference. The touch screen is not difficult to get the hang of, the only thing is that may take some getting used to is the touchscreen keyboard (definitely some learning curve there, compared to a tangible one). Other than that, you shouldn't have a problem.
In truth, the EVO and the Hero will provide essentially the same functionality; EVO has 4G connection, the Hero doesn't, but in terms of OS configuration and general usage, they are very similar. They both run (stock, of course) on HTC Sense, HTC's shell over android that replaces a lot of the stock android programs with shiny and beautified new ones. The big difference between the two is the hardware. The reason the Hero has such a huge community of support on these forums is that it has very limited hardware, and most found that stock it ran very slowly. Hence, the need to mod and improve it, and if I may say so myself, they've done it quite well. The EVO actually has the hardware to properly run HTC Sense, but there is a large community for the EVO as well, and growing.
Either one will have essentially the same learning curve in terms of functionality. The Hero has one of the largest communities of support on these forums, so asking a question as you did will usually get a response (and one that is far more useful than any Sprint Rep could give you). The EVO has a good-size community as well, and has 2x the processing power, memory, and extra goodies like a front-facing camera for video chat and stuff. The Hero is $149.99 with a new contract, the EVO is $199.99 with a new contract (if they have it in stock; there has been a MASSIVE shortage).
This is just the background information; I recommend going to a Sprint store and playing with them yourself. A lot of people don't like the EVO because it is HUGE size-wise. A lot of people scoff at the Hero because to get it to run well, either serious work or rooting is pretty much mandatory. Either way, I say its a good choice. If you have any more questions, let me know, but good luck in your search!

If you go to the hero pm me with any questions u might have if I can help ill b glad to and I'm on here a lot warning its very addictive lol and IMO I'd go the hero first time around good luck
Root-Hack-Mod-Always™

zoe1325 said:
Hi Am switching to Sprint and want an android. I'm 55 years old and love to text. Is this a good choice to intro me to android world.(never had touch screen but I'm a fast learner) Text, internet and talk are the order of importance that I will use the phone for. I think the Evo would be too much to start with. Whats your expert opinion. Had a Nokia 6301 for last 2 years. Thanks in advance.
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No expert on these things,but as one newbie 55 yo to another the Hero is a good phone to start out with. The Evo is too if you can get used to something that large coming from a smaller phone. Both have a ton of stuff on them to start out with..but as far as which one to get..you got 30 days from signing up with them to really decide which you prefer. You have more screen size with the Evo and a lot faster processor to start. Like what has been said..go try them both out and see which you prefer..I never thought I would get the hang of a touch screen keyboard and now I wouldn't go back to one..they just add way too much bulk to a phone for my taste and I can type and correct just as fast as using a real keyboard now.
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thanks
Thanks for the insights. I'm going to get the Hero. (contract is up Sept 16th with Tmobile) I will be back in the next couple weeks to let you know how its going. I'm really interested in the process of making the Hero go faster. Its something I will probably persue after I have it for a while. Again, thanks for the replies.

zoe1325 said:
Thanks for the insights. I'm going to get the Hero. (contract is up Sept 16th with Tmobile) I will be back in the next couple weeks to let you know how its going. I'm really interested in the process of making the Hero go faster. Its something I will probably persue after I have it for a while. Again, thanks for the replies.
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Ah, Grasshopper, you have chosen wisely!
I'm a couple years your senior, have had a Hero for about a year, have rooted and flashed my phone to the point where I'm very happy with it. Have also become something of a root-meister for the rest of the family
These phones are like computers: you always want them faster. Having said that, I use my phone mostly for (gasp) phone calls, texting, MMS, and casual browsing and Youtube viewing. The Hero - especially when modded, is quite up to the task.
My only complaint is the tiny tiny text within many of the apps. Obviously, the developers are all 20-somethings with the kind of eyesight I used to have when I was that age <GRIN>.
The EVO has a larger screen, but not having played with one, I don't know if that translates to larger type, or just more tiny type that can fit on a larger screen?
As someone else said, the Hero has a huge support base in the community, so you'll find lots of help as you learn and navigate your way around it. If you get a Hero, you'll be happy with for at least a year or two as you develop further insight as to what you want in one of these phones.
Before discovering how to root and mod my phone with some of the excellent ROMs available (I'm now using Cyanogenmod 6) I was ready to go back to my Katana. The stock ROM is cludgy and frustrating. With CM6, my Hero is now snappy and responsive and I can see living with it for another year...until the next upgrad.
Good luck!

zoe1325 said:
Thanks for the insights. I'm going to get the Hero. (contract is up Sept 16th with Tmobile) I will be back in the next couple weeks to let you know how its going. I'm really interested in the process of making the Hero go faster. Its something I will probably persue after I have it for a while. Again, thanks for the replies.
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coming from t mobile you can get the hero for 1 cent on amazon,just got two for my parents in their 60s and they love them.

Personally i think you should gget an evo...its practically an upgraded hero. The only reason why you should pick up a hero over an evo is if screen size is a problem. And cost.
Dont get me wrong, i love my hero. Ive had it since day one, but if i had known about the Evo before hand, then i wouldve opted for that. Especially since it works great out of the box (after a few updates, but the hero was that way too ). Its almost a neccessity to root the hero mostly because the processor is slow. But after you get it running at ~700mhz its great
But personally im going for the epic 4g on october 1st. Its like an Evo with a keyboard! Plus, it may be thicker than the Evo, but its just as thick as my hero, so thickness is a non-issue for me
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

[Q] question and opinions wanted

I have an HTC Hero and one of my many questions is do you think Sprint and HTC will make a Hero 2 ... maybe with a 3.5" or lil bigger (not a monster sized phone) with either a good 1ghz processor or even a dual core and maybe keep the "track Ball" but lose all the other buttons make them all capacitive touch ..... thoughts or opinions ?
I do believe that the Hero has been very successful for both HTC and Sprint.
Ok back to me and My Hero I am not a developer and I am new to the rom switching game. I love the crisp look of the factory Sense UI, but I am one of those types that sees things differently. I look at things and say to myself how could we improve on this or how can we make it faster and keep it looking good. I found this website, and pretty much changed my Hero into a Super Hero so to say.
I also would like to say thanks to all of the great developers on the CDMA Hero side, so far I have tried almost every variety of rom and different mod on my Hero (have screenshots once I get out of the probation period I will post them)
So far I figured out the easiest way for me to root my hero is with one of two I found floating around these forums, Hero Root by regaw leinad or super1click v1.7 ..... I also figured out that firerat's mod is easier the data2ext if your nat really familiar with adb. I also have found three more programs to help a lot, droid explorer, android commander and qtadb.
My question to all Hero owners what do you think is the best all around ROM, Gapps, and other mods as of May 8th 2011? (I am just looking for opinions I read almost every thread on this site and I would just like to see it all together call me lazy)
All this and I have not "bricked" my Hero .... must be one tough s.o.b.

To answer your first question, I just don't see a revised Hero in the works. It has a been a great phone for many users and Sprint alike I'm sure, but the Hero is not likely to reappear simply because it doesn't really conform to what HTC is doing with most of their phones now (4-4.3 inches, capacitive buttons, similar super thin form factor). I definitely don't think they would put a trackball in, because even if there were a trackpad on a new device it's almost guaranteed to be optical. If there were to be a refresh, I definitely think we would have heard something by now considering the lifespan of the Hero.
As for roms, I'd definitely suggest playing around with AOSP or CM7 versions of Gingerbread. You may find that you prefer greater customizations than you get with Sense. However, if you really really dig Sense and would much rather have it, there's a great group of guys developing Sense 2.1 for Gingerbread on the Hero. It's in Alpha right now, but even considering that, it's a fantastic piece of work. As far as Gapps go, I would just stick to the latest ones provided at the Cyanogenmod wiki. I don't really apply other mods as I personally don't think I need any, but YMMV.

i for one love the design its the perfect size for me and as far as the processor goes once i overclocked it a little bit its plenty fast enough for me because i dont really install a ton of apps and as far as gaming goes i have a ps3 for that lol so it really is the perfect phone for me all the new ones are just to big i think.
and ive had the hero sense september and i had a mt3g before that.

OMGB
I have been running OMGB for the past 8 hrs I am using wifi only browsed the web for a while, cut grass listened to some MP3's and browsed the web some more and more MP3's I listened to MP3's for a couple hours (with the MIUI player found in the forums) and it shows pretty good battery life
I would also like to add that I am using the
opengles tweak to show supported version 1.1 (not 100% sure why I did it ... maybe just to say I did it successfully)
s0be's kernel AP5, unCoRrUpTeD data2ext V2.2, and the MIUI music player and camera apks
I like the bare minimalist look and feel this rom has, but I still dont have a true favorite .... variety is such a sweet thing and all these choices .... and most of the people I know dont even know what an HTC Hero is .... if its not a iLemon or if it doesnt say DROID (like in the commercials) they just dont "get it"

ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
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jmphillips76 said:
ok found the first flaw ..... lol
my market says verizon where i would normaly see Sprint and had my first FC
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If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA Premium App

I did checked it out and I liked a lot also .... it is silky smooth and I liked the main clock widget and how the status bar wasn't white ...
PMGRANDS said:
If you like the Sense UI Look, Checkout my "ExEnHeroC" Rom, the Links Below... (In my Signature)
It's a 2.2 Froyo Rom, and I know you said your kind a New to all the Rom/Rooting stuff so I'll let you know Before hand when a (GSM) Phones Ported to our (CDMA) Hero Not Everything Works!! But Most of the Important Everyday things Work! Check it out, See if you like it!
But for the Most Part its...
Faster, Smoother, and Filled with a Whole Lot More Goodies...
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA Premium App
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[Q] So I'm looking for a rom...

So I've about had it up to here with Cyanogen Mod 7.1 switching wildly from super fast to super slow and unable to take calls reliably, so I hit the boards to find a decent up to stock rom. I specificly wanted one with Flash Light to see if I could use PlayOn with it, and I figured that something like Heroine would be up my alley, considering I wanted something light that could get through Maps, Apps, and Contacts breezily, with the all important Flash Lite cooked in. Little that I know that I would be spending a couple hours on a tweaking spree trying to get a GSM Mod on my CDMA phone. So, yeah. I get it. Point is this, a lot of the hot mods in the boards seem to be shelving consistent performance for new hotness. Is there a ROM in the works that is similar to what Heroine has to offer, but on this side of the pond?

I'll attempt to port it over if I have time
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。

Yea i liked the 2.1 sense by liquid but some apps are limited which sucked =P im back running 2.2 by jaybob