a question about 1.6 update - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok...
if i understand correctly there is a new market "look" with the 1.6 donut update
when i first rooted my g1 and accessed the market there were very few apps i could actually find when i went searching for them(i.e astro)
i dont know exactly why but im guessing it was because of the different firmware that was being used at the time?
so how will this 1.6 update affect new ROMs?
im using drizzys blur-hero ROM and it has the (i guess) 1.5 market
will the apps in the market with the new update be easily available or will i more than likely have to flash to a new ROM that uses more up to date firmware as time goes by?
im kinda hoping i dont seeing as how its taken me two months of reading the forums and trial and error to finally get a ROM i like thats stable enough for daily use...lol!
thanks for any input in advance!

What? The Market access the same downloads regardless of version because they query the same server.

well iirc
when i first rooted and went to rc29 i tried looking in the market for some of the apps i had been playing around with before and alot of them werent there...
i dont know why it was like that but i got to thinking that maybe the same thing might happen with the 1.6 update

no the market is way spiffier with the new 1.6 update. for shizzle.

freaktractor said:
ok...
if i understand correctly there is a new market "look" with the 1.6 donut update
when i first rooted my g1 and accessed the market there were very few apps i could actually find when i went searching for them(i.e astro)
i dont know exactly why but im guessing it was because of the different firmware that was being used at the time?
so how will this 1.6 update affect new ROMs?
im using drizzys blur-hero ROM and it has the (i guess) 1.5 market
will the apps in the market with the new update be easily available or will i more than likely have to flash to a new ROM that uses more up to date firmware as time goes by?
im kinda hoping i dont seeing as how its taken me two months of reading the forums and trial and error to finally get a ROM i like thats stable enough for daily use...lol!
thanks for any input in advance!
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well in some roms, there are market bug where some apps couldnt be found in the market this was a common proble in drizzys 2.3-the last 2.X update.
and why use drizzys blur now when maxisma took over his rom.
but drizzy will be releasing a fulll blur rom sometime today(according to his twitter)

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quick question about the 1.6 update

okay im sure you guys saw that 1.6 is being pushed to all tmobile g1s in the next few days (i saw it on engadget.com) my question is im rooted with cyan 4.0.4 i think. (the latest stable) and i think i want to update to that so i can have the new market. will i be able to get the update and will i be able to still use overclock widget. thanks guys!!!
umm there are already 1.6 based roms in the dev section... i would look there, i am about to give akirah's build a go.
if you flash an official update to your phone then you will lose root.
If you flash any official ROM and try to run an app that requires root it won't work as intended (the app).
How's the ROM you mention david? I was considering it myself, I've been using this current ROM for almost a day now. Need a change
trexxcrap2 said:
okay im sure you guys saw that 1.6 is being pushed to all tmobile g1s in the next few days (i saw it on engadget.com) my question is im rooted with cyan 4.0.4 i think. (the latest stable) and i think i want to update to that so i can have the new market. will i be able to get the update and will i be able to still use overclock widget. thanks guys!!!
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well rooted phones will not be getting the official OTA update. and plus theres a couple 1.6 roms. like david said, theres akirahs but i never tried it.
Dyonas said:
If you flash any official ROM and try to run an app that requires root it won't work as intended (the app).
How's the ROM you mention david? I was considering it myself, I've been using this current ROM for almost a day now. Need a change
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i know im not dave so you might not trust my opinion as much it was kind of like jf build nothing special jus a simple rooted adp with apps to sd built in i really did notice anything that wasn't in 4.11.1.
Can any one tell me that once i root will i be able to install new update of google through PC ?
sabin123 said:
Can any one tell me that once i root will i be able to install new update of google through PC ?
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u can load up any rom u want with root.
jmon777 said:
i know im not dave so you might not trust my opinion as much it was kind of like jf build nothing special jus a simple rooted adp with apps to sd built in i really did notice anything that wasn't in 4.11.1.
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i found it to be really fast (like damn fast) but i love a lot of the features in 4.1.11.1 like the lockscreen among other things. i think it is between a jf rom and a cm rom. not completely vanilla but not rocky road either its a good rom overall, but i love my features.
i still have my .zip file for cyans 4.1.11.1 if anyone needs it!..i like it..
mrnv45 said:
i still have my .zip file for cyans 4.1.11.1 if anyone needs it!..i like it..
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Is that the 1.6 mod that Cyanogen created? If so I would like it if you can send to my email [email protected]
I tried to find it when I saw it on friend's phone, but when I went to the site they removed :\
ny friend got lucky and bought the phone from a person that had it on there.
HAHAHA Cyanogen ROMs are like crack now.
whatcha need, whatcha need?
Hey man, you got some cyanogen?
You ain't a cop are ya?
Nah man, I just need some Cyanogen.
ok cool, here ya go, be careful bro that sh*t's fast.
* looks over both shoulders.
* whispers "dude that phone had cyanogen on it when you bought it?!?! That sh*t's illegal bro!"

Wiping back to a google ROM

Hello,
I'm running the latest stable version of cyanogen 5.0.7, which is the last, i think.
And i'm having trouble with my APN settings. I want to perform a clean wipe and revert to a google ROM to see if I can get the APN settings to work on my G1 with that. Is this possible without actually breaking the phone?
I don't think it'd be downgrading as the latest Google ROM is 2.2 and 5.0.7 comes up as 2.1 on my phone.
If it's safe, could someone tell me how?
from what i understand u basically wanna go back stock so if thats then heres a link
although its been a min since i did it this way but hope this helps
thanks for the reply.
according to this page, G1 only supports up to Android 1.6 in its official form?
Laserbeak43 said:
thanks for the reply.
according to this page, G1 only supports up to Android 1.6 in its official form?
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You know, there might have been an actual REASON why you installed a cyanogen rom.... and it was probably because of the fact that HTC DREAM only has official images to 1.6!
Unless you were just installing cyanogen rom to make life difficult....?
how could installing cyanogenmod make life difficult when it has so many cool features. I can't even remember if android was even past a 1.6 release when i started using cyanogen. what was the point of your reply?
either way, i can't remember the reason why i installed cyanogen. could have just been purely for the sake of modding.

G1 what should I flash on it?

Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Are you using setcpu to overlock your phone? If you're running a cyanogen rom or cyanogen based rom the overclock kernel is included, you just need setcpu from the market, or you can get it for free here on xda. It will allow you to overclock. If you are already overclocking, and you need a 2.1+ rom, I suppose you could try SuperE or SuperFly, they are fairly fast.
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gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Personally I'd steer clear of Cyan roms until your more comfortable with setting things up, personally I don't use cyans but thats my choice.
I'd go with either EZterry's asop or the new enom 'official' that is out and has a few more configurable options. All the fun of the fair without the bloatware cm roms have and will ease you into the world of flashing
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
Wipe?
With the newer CyanogenMod stuff I have found that wiping and reflashing the same ROM in recovery seems to help substantially on the FCs and lagginess.
I'm not sure why the full wipe / reflash works, but I suppose it has something to do with the inability to do a complete wipe. I haven't tried the new uber wipe that just came out, but I would be curious to see if that had better results as a starting point for a ROM install.
Also, I found I was happier on CyanogenMod with LauncherPlus over the included ADW Launcher. Though that was on the beta of 6.1 and I know the 6.1 stable has a newer version of ADW which might have addressed some of its annoyances.
I recommend setting up Titanium Backup for apps or using Droid Explorer to pull a backup of your ideal application environment. This will make swapping out ROMs quick for testing out what works for you.
mn3kgtvr4 said:
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
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For speed and stability its difficult to beat the SuperD 1.11 rom ....essentially a donut (1.6) rom stripped and then filled with 2.1 (eclair) goodness. Sweet.

[Q] Upgrading to 2.1 stock (no custom ROM, not rooted)

So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
epp_b said:
So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
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Dude there are literally thousands of people running custom roms flawlessly ....taking that in to consideration, what do you think the answer to your question is? Lol for liability purposes we all have to say "there's a risk" but my 11 year old sister rooted her evo and flashed cm7 without any help
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Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
epp_b said:
Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
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Well we've had some that had broken wifi long ago but really you probably just could've flashed a new working kernel over it and the problem would be gone. If you wanna stay stock-ish I'd recommend fresh 2.1 but if you wanna really see it fly flash kush-deck gb. Flash the. 29 kernel after you boot and you will never regret it
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Thanks, I'll check those out sometime. Have you got links for them?
Believe me, you don't want the stock Sprint 2.1 on your Hero. It's terrible. Super slow and it freezes constantly. I ran it for a short time after Sprint released it and that's when I decided to root. If I remember correctly you also can't put your apps on the SD card with it which really limits how many apps you can install.
I am running CyanogenMod 6.0 Froyo with ADW Launcher (built into the Rom) and its snappy and reliable but still has a lot of the bells and whistles. Try Beautiful Widgets and you can have a homescreen clock with animated weather just like the HTC Sense homescreen.
I tried CM 6.1.1 recently (updated froyo with new features) but it used more internal memory than 6.0 which made my phone laggy.
Be sure to get the appropriate Google apps zip file with the new Market
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what's 2.1?
Android Eclair. 2.2 is Froyo
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I managed to find some of the software I was looking for and I'm actually pretty happy to run 1.5; I actually find it quite usable.

[Q] ezgingerbread vs. froyo by laszlo?

For a while I would like to ask this question, but I cannot post on the dev forum on the ezgingerbread thread:
Which one is faster or less laggy? I've been on ezgingerbread for more than two months, pulled the repo and compiled the .zip to install, also tried 0818 precompiled download. However, even the newest version does not give me the same speed I had with terry's MT3d OTA rom. On ezgingerbread, when I press Gmail for a first time, I still need to wait from 10sec to 30 sec for my gmail to occur (613MHz), it become 1-2 seconds if I open gmail again, but that performance doesn't hold if the interval is, for example, an hour or so.
I've heard good words about froyo by laszlo except that it is not developed now, but I guess what I care is: is it less laggy than ezgingerbread? I've read the comments following the poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18067831#post18067831
and developed a doubt about trying froyo by laszlo at this date. What do you think? As flashing a rom and reinstall would take me quite some time (not sure if titanium backup can restore my apps in gingerbread to froyo, or if the nandroid backup actually works perfectly...)
Your input is greatly appreciated.
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
AndDiSa said:
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
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Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
repast said:
Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
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Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
Try both, then choose froyo for laszlo.
I use Froyo Melt by ldrifta (AKA: DreamTeam Froyo). It is very fast from my experience on G1. I also have apps and data on SD card with no lag (at this point) with about 20 apps installed. The only thing I use with GAPPS is the GMail.
So, based on my experience I would pick froyo for laszlo if I have to pick between the two.
If your looking for a fast GB ROM, with a good amount of internal space. Use my ROM Nomy CM7.1 2.3.7. Its really fast, is ment for optimum RAM. I'll be adding legacy Apps2ext. No MTD needed, no swap, its under 40MB Zipped. 52 on system. It will be under 40MB unzipped by the end of this month.
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For me froyo by laszlo runs faster.
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AndDiSa said:
Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
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So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
i know what you mean, I like gingerbread better than froyo for some reason, its just addicting... i guess.
repast said:
So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
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I like this idea. is this possible?
or just remove market updater before you open market for the 1st time. that works too
vincom said:
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
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just got the sg2 lte skyrocket, cost me nothing, actually received $10 back buying from costco, so byebye g1, this new phone is fast, really fast, well compared to my g1, i cant go back
repast said:
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
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Agreed. Gingerbread, although not extremely fast, is a very nice, clean upgrade. Gb, and almost any version of it, is a interface clearly focusing on more than just performance, it offers aesthetics like nothing else.

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