[Q] ezgingerbread vs. froyo by laszlo? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

For a while I would like to ask this question, but I cannot post on the dev forum on the ezgingerbread thread:
Which one is faster or less laggy? I've been on ezgingerbread for more than two months, pulled the repo and compiled the .zip to install, also tried 0818 precompiled download. However, even the newest version does not give me the same speed I had with terry's MT3d OTA rom. On ezgingerbread, when I press Gmail for a first time, I still need to wait from 10sec to 30 sec for my gmail to occur (613MHz), it become 1-2 seconds if I open gmail again, but that performance doesn't hold if the interval is, for example, an hour or so.
I've heard good words about froyo by laszlo except that it is not developed now, but I guess what I care is: is it less laggy than ezgingerbread? I've read the comments following the poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18067831#post18067831
and developed a doubt about trying froyo by laszlo at this date. What do you think? As flashing a rom and reinstall would take me quite some time (not sure if titanium backup can restore my apps in gingerbread to froyo, or if the nandroid backup actually works perfectly...)
Your input is greatly appreciated.

If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€

AndDiSa said:
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
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Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA

repast said:
Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
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Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".

i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself

Try both, then choose froyo for laszlo.

I use Froyo Melt by ldrifta (AKA: DreamTeam Froyo). It is very fast from my experience on G1. I also have apps and data on SD card with no lag (at this point) with about 20 apps installed. The only thing I use with GAPPS is the GMail.
So, based on my experience I would pick froyo for laszlo if I have to pick between the two.

If your looking for a fast GB ROM, with a good amount of internal space. Use my ROM Nomy CM7.1 2.3.7. Its really fast, is ment for optimum RAM. I'll be adding legacy Apps2ext. No MTD needed, no swap, its under 40MB Zipped. 52 on system. It will be under 40MB unzipped by the end of this month.
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For me froyo by laszlo runs faster.
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AndDiSa said:
Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
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So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?

After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!

i know what you mean, I like gingerbread better than froyo for some reason, its just addicting... i guess.

repast said:
So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
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I like this idea. is this possible?

or just remove market updater before you open market for the 1st time. that works too

vincom said:
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
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just got the sg2 lte skyrocket, cost me nothing, actually received $10 back buying from costco, so byebye g1, this new phone is fast, really fast, well compared to my g1, i cant go back

repast said:
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
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Agreed. Gingerbread, although not extremely fast, is a very nice, clean upgrade. Gb, and almost any version of it, is a interface clearly focusing on more than just performance, it offers aesthetics like nothing else.

Related

how stable is 4.999

So just how stable is 4.999?
I want to root my phone to it, but I've read that a lot of people have been having issues with it..
I would get the 4.04, but does it come with the new 1.6 tmobile update?
xologist said:
So just how stable is 4.999?
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You mean 4.1.999?
xologist said:
I want to root my phone to it, but I've read that a lot of people have been having issues with it..
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I don't have any issues. An occasional forceclose/wait popup message and rarely a random reboot. Plus gps doesn't work too well with some map apps (especially Telenav) but I think that's app related and not to the rom. (Some apps need to be revised for 1.6.)
In any case as long as you have a recovery that allows you to do nandroid backups (you can use the RA-dream which is linked in my signature. It allows you to do switchrom so you can bookmark your current rom.)
So try 4.1.999 and if you don't like it, flash back and wait for a newer and more stable release.
xologist said:
I would get the 4.04, but does it come with the new 1.6 tmobile update?
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No. 4.0.4 is Android 1.5.
i have been running 4.1.999 since it came out, about a week or so ago, and it can be a little slow at times, but a reboot will fix that (basically i reboot when i wake up in the morning, and it runs fine throughout the day for me). i think the reason mine slows down though is i have a 64mb linux-swap partition, and i have my swappiness set to 75.
overall though, i find it to be a great ROM, and no 4.0.4 is not based off of 1.6, it is 1.5.
oh cool, so 4.1.999 is based on 1.6 ?
and im kind of glad you guys say you dont have issues, because everytime I look here there is more issues :S
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmo...Priority Version Owner Summary Stars Modified
Flash it and try balancing it on a flat surface, you can tell how stable it is.
ok cool thnx
I dont use swap, just ext3, and Advanced Launcher, 4 App Limit Set, and mine runs smoothly....
Kazan22 said:
Flash it and try balancing it on a flat surface, you can tell how stable it is.
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hmmm, this is going to be my new stability test when i try out a hero rom.
can it survive without falling over during the initial boot up?

G1 struggling - memory and other

so i got cyanogen's 4.2.12.2 loaded. apps on SD.
the phone is kinda slow, but the biggest concern is that it stalls/freezes for few seconds and stops responding, then works just fine. it happens a lot. it makes my overall usage experience a sluggish one. all i have left in internal memory is 27 MB ! why? shouldn't apps be on sd. is that cache that being used up every time an app is running in the background? not really sure i understand whats happening. i know i have over 100 apps on there, but i thought they should be running off of my SD.
i'm growing tired of the phone. is it possible to speed it up? can i get some memory back without sacrificing too many apps?
Try going to the android market and downloading the "overclock widget", and also snag the free task manager and then add the widget to your phones desktop so that way you can kill the apps and set the clock with over clock.
That should help your problem broski.
Cyanogenmod is a bloated pig.
Look in the dev section for enomther's "expansion pack". It basically adds on some extra features to a more-or-less stock rom. Performance is phenomenal.
my concern is the internal phone storage. i don't understand why it's dropping. i see people reporting 40 and 50 MB for internal storage while having 100+ apps.
how is that possible? what am i doing wrong.
by the way, my current internal memory size (based on taskpanel widget) is 17 MB!!!
Try a different rom....i suggest WG Build Y 2.6 or Super D, they are fast and stable.
djluis48 said:
Try a different rom....i suggest WG Build Y 2.6 or Super D, they are fast and stable.
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Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.
Ace42 said:
Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.
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I just came in again to correct that mistake, but you already did it...lol
Ace42 said:
Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.
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I would tell this guy to re-partition, wipe everything under wipe, and then flash
overall, i like cyanogen's mods. i'd like to keep it if i could.
i installed PeakMemUsage and took a look at whats using up most of the memory
- Android system/checkin service 30 MB
- Quick search box/home/google 26 MB
- better keyboard 14 MB
- weather widgets 17 MB
- My Account 15 MB
- Dialer 16 MB
is this normal?
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overall, i like cyanogen's mods. i'd like to keep it if i could.
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then go with SuperD - superficially it looks the same - all the same additions from eclair, spare parts etc, but a hell of a lot faster.
Alphabet Soap said:
then go with SuperD - superficially it looks the same - all the same additions from eclair, spare parts etc, but a hell of a lot faster.
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i guess i should. do u know of any thread that has all the info on superD and how to flash it? do i need to wipe? can i keep cyanogen's recovery? should i format and repartition the sd card?
Mr.Jigolo said:
i guess i should. do u know of any thread that has all the info on superD and how to flash it? do i need to wipe? can i keep cyanogen's recovery? should i format and repartition the sd card?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809
I'm pretty sure Super D just uses the 10mb ram hack and compcache - no linux swap support, but I've you've already got a partition on your card (I've got 64mb myself) it won't hold it up - it just won't be used. you can keep your partition setup, just wipe everything (I use amon ra recovery - can't remember if wipe ext and cache is on cyan's build) and flash the update. I'm on an HTC magic 32B, so haven't needed to go down the SPL/radio update because stock can cope with it, but if you're on a G1 then you'll need to do it *very carefully*. if you don't follow the inx you can brick your phone.
if you want to keep your apps use backup for root users - it can be a bit iffy, so i tend to just redownload everything from the market - your downloads are remembered, so it only takes a few minutes.
i stayed with cyan's roms for ages - very user friendly and stable, but it's worth experimenting to see which you like best. if you've got a class 6 card then check out some of the eclair roms for the live wallpaper stuff, superD,m dwang and WG for speed and stability and espresso for prettiness.
Which is faster? Super D or xROM (Eclair)?

G1 what should I flash on it?

Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Are you using setcpu to overlock your phone? If you're running a cyanogen rom or cyanogen based rom the overclock kernel is included, you just need setcpu from the market, or you can get it for free here on xda. It will allow you to overclock. If you are already overclocking, and you need a 2.1+ rom, I suppose you could try SuperE or SuperFly, they are fairly fast.
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gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Personally I'd steer clear of Cyan roms until your more comfortable with setting things up, personally I don't use cyans but thats my choice.
I'd go with either EZterry's asop or the new enom 'official' that is out and has a few more configurable options. All the fun of the fair without the bloatware cm roms have and will ease you into the world of flashing
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
Wipe?
With the newer CyanogenMod stuff I have found that wiping and reflashing the same ROM in recovery seems to help substantially on the FCs and lagginess.
I'm not sure why the full wipe / reflash works, but I suppose it has something to do with the inability to do a complete wipe. I haven't tried the new uber wipe that just came out, but I would be curious to see if that had better results as a starting point for a ROM install.
Also, I found I was happier on CyanogenMod with LauncherPlus over the included ADW Launcher. Though that was on the beta of 6.1 and I know the 6.1 stable has a newer version of ADW which might have addressed some of its annoyances.
I recommend setting up Titanium Backup for apps or using Droid Explorer to pull a backup of your ideal application environment. This will make swapping out ROMs quick for testing out what works for you.
mn3kgtvr4 said:
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
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For speed and stability its difficult to beat the SuperD 1.11 rom ....essentially a donut (1.6) rom stripped and then filled with 2.1 (eclair) goodness. Sweet.

Most Complete/Stable Vogue Android Build

So I've just recently flashed my vogue with myns donut for a couple days and It was pretty good. The camera worked but no video and neither did the gps. I understand that for verizon you have to follow a specific procudure to get that to work so that makes sense. I'm just curious to what android roms they are using for their vougue. I'm looking for one that has the most working features. Let me know what it is and how you had it set up.
For my Fresh Froyo although remember android no is 100% stable but Fresh Froyo is very good.
If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.
aceoyame said:
If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.
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I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.
Josue_181 said:
I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.
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Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
I have searched but it has been a while since I looked in this section. Is it DZO's Fresh Froyo you use and I cannot find Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10??? Hope you can help, thanks.
aceoyame said:
Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
aceoyame said:
Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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Would have to prove with that kernel I know how to adapt the kernel Clemsyn's to our Vogue if it works I comment as I was to see if I change my mind about your ROM
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Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
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The thread Fresh froyo this here, as well as guides for the installation of haret/nad, only is question search and read...
Prowess said:
aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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our vogue would not benefit from the battery enhancements since our kernels were designed for our battery
Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best
loffyg said:
Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best
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This is my situation too....as I posted above. I know how to install, but am unsure of exactly what you are recommending as to the Fresh Froyo files. Thanks again.
Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.
Josue_181 said:
Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
ROM: Fresh Froyo 2010-12-03
Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.
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Okay I am pretty sure I understood what you said. I have the files you suggested thanks for the help I will try it tonight.
Josue_181 said:
the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
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It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.
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aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
So it loses a lot of those tweaks but I can say 1 thing about cm6.1 and 7 so far, they are getting rather large themselves, I can look into cm7 for hero and find atleast 10 apks that just take up space or are only good once
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I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.
goducks3620 said:
It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.
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Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
aceoyame said:
I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Using this kernel modified with atool I may obtained the benefits mentioned in the battery life?
aceoyame said:
Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.
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even with barebones, the cm settings along with the now statistic reporting and updater (which cause FC's if removed) are still pretty huge. i have grown to like cm7 on my hero but with having so much stuff commited to the project as much as i hate to say it, there is starting to be alot of ::gulp:: bloatware
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Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
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You don't need a task killer. The newer versions of Android will shut down apps that aren't being used if the resources are needed elsewhere. If you run a Advanced Task Killer or something similar, it will use system resources shutting down apps that then re-open themselves, which the task killer will again kill. It drains the battery and makes the OS unstable. Uninstall your task killer for a few days and see if it helps.
I use Autostarts because it fixed a problem--the music player started randomly. I also use it to prevent some apps from starting up but it is probably not necessary.

Roms: Continuous comparison of milestone roms and updates

Dear all,
In an attempt to organise the discussion, I have noticed that there are several threads aiming at discussing the best ROMS for the Milestone.
Some of us are using Shadowmod, Froyomod, CM7, CM6, Motofrenzy, GOT while some use Stock.
REQUEST 1: Each user, after updating to a new ROM/Nightly should state their ROM here, its version, and describe her/his own experience with the ROM.
REQUEST 2: If you have used more than one ROM, can you post comparisons of your experience with your ROM?
This should help in better understanding the advantages and disadvantages of each ROM and each nightly and even help developers of each ROM work together and exchange tips.
Thanks!
Also: CHECK THIS THREAD for links to ALL ROMS under development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966812
My first post:
I am running Cm6 pre final. I removed facebook and Twitter and some other apps from system, installed them from market and moved them to SD. Not many mods, except heap size is 32, and no app2ext.
Very stable, very occasional reboots. Battery life is as expected, within standard cm6 range. Battery lasts 12 hours average, assuming you USE the phone and keep the display open significantly. Slightly laggy from time to time, but otherwise there is nothing to report except problems with languages that have a right-to-left orientation.
I love the mods. Just downloaded froyomod and considering a test drive for a day.
UPDATE > TESTING FROYOMOD 2.6.1.b
I just installed it, and am using it with basic settings. I only changed libwebcore.so with one that supports basic arabic reading in mail and web.
My general impression is that it is much faster and snappier, less laggy and generally lighter than CM6 Pre Final. Will keep testing it of course, but it generally seems to be a better ROM actually.
COME ON! )) WRITE your own REVIEWS of the ROMS YOU USE!
Best froyo atm is FroyoMOD 2.6.1 once the gps issue is sorted.
Best GB rom is Cronos 1.2.
But i am a stock rom person. I am at present using xt702 with arabic kernel,themed and a few mods by myself.
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sileshn said:
Best froyo atm is FroyoMOD 2.6.1 once the gps issue is sorted.
Best GB rom is Cronos 1.2.
But i am a stock rom person. I am at present using xt702 with arabic kernel,themed and a few mods by myself.
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I have heard people talking about Cronos, but it doesn't seem to be as well-known as CM7. Is it faster or more stable?
I have used both FroyoMod 2.6.0 and CM7 RC4.1(current).
I find that CM7 is VERY polished. I had one reboot and it's been close to two weeks I've had CM7 on my phone.
With FroyoMod, I found that it was not as polished as CM7 and had some bugs, but it definitely seemed better optimized for the Milestone seeing as it's running Froyo.
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I have heard people talking about Cronos, but it doesn't seem to be as well-known as CM7. Is it faster or more stable?
I have used both FroyoMod 2.6.0 and CM7 RC4.1(current).
I find that CM7 is VERY polished. I had one reboot and it's been close to two weeks I've had CM7 on my phone.
With FroyoMod, I found that it was not as polished as CM7 and had some bugs, but it definitely seemed better optimized for the Milestone seeing as it's running Froyo.
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http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=910
sileshn said:
http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=910
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Can you apply this ROM via AOR? Or is it nandroid?
skadude66 said:
Can you apply this ROM via AOR? Or is it nandroid?
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Just like CM. via apply update in AOR.
sileshn said:
Just like CM. via apply update in AOR.
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Thanks! Flashing right now.
UPDATE > TESTING FROYOMOD 2.6.1.b
I just installed it, and am using it with basic settings. I only changed libwebcore.so with one that supports basic arabic reading in mail and web.
My general impression is that it is much faster and snappier, less laggy and generally lighter than CM6 Pre Final. Will keep testing it of course, but it generally seems to be a better ROM actually.
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i am on stock eclair update 1 with arabic rom. when i copy libwebcore.so from my current eclair to any stock froyo or any cm, my web cannot read arabic. only contacts and messaging read arabic.
can you guide how to activate arabic in web.
Saeen said:
UPDATE > TESTING FROYOMOD 2.6.1.b
I just installed it, and am using it with basic settings. I only changed libwebcore.so with one that supports basic arabic reading in mail and web.
My general impression is that it is much faster and snappier, less laggy and generally lighter than CM6 Pre Final. Will keep testing it of course, but it generally seems to be a better ROM actually.
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i am on stock eclair update 1 with arabic rom. when i copy libwebcore.so from my current eclair to any stock froyo or any cm, my web cannot read arabic. only contacts and messaging read arabic.
can you guide how to activate arabic in web.
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Hey Saeen! here is not the place for this, but here you go Get libwebcore.so from the official 2.2 Arabic release or that file which has been online somewhere. Navigate to system/lib using root explorer, activate the permissions, paste it there to replace the current one (make a copy of the one there, just in case)., and reboot. You can read it Arabic, but it does not fix Right-to-left issues.
Well, i'am new here and i have an Motorola Milestone. I'am from Brazil so my english is kinda bad, but whatever. I'am running stock 2.2.1 from brasil, and my Milestone runs very smoothy! No FC or reboots for 1 week! Iam running it at 1ghz @62vsel. The brasilian official froyo mix motoblur elements with the original android, so the lockscreen for exemple is the same as the motoblur one, and the keyboard is the same as motoblur, the white keyboard. I'am making a video, when i upload i post it here
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Well, i'am new here and i have an Motorola Milestone. I'am from Brazil so my english is kinda bad, but whatever. I'am running stock 2.2.1 from brasil, and my Milestone runs very smoothy! No FC or reboots for 1 week! Iam running it at 1ghz @62vsel. The brasilian official froyo mix motoblur elements with the original android, so the lockscreen for exemple is the same as the motoblur one, and the keyboard is the same as motoblur, the white keyboard. I'am making a video, when i upload i post it here
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Thanks! This is so useful and interesting! Waiting for that video
Miui 1.2.25
So I have found that MIUI 1.2.25 ROM from lalit79 to work the best for me.
The one thing that brings me back to it every time is its battery/power management plus it's fairly stable performance. Usability is the most important thing and I find its interface easy and speedy. Plus it comes with some great apps.
I have tried using the Gingerbread versions of it and they seem to be improving with each update however it is still lacking in the performance and stability of 1.2.25.
Other mods I have used are ShadowMod, Doshaka's CM6, Cronos and ofcourse the stock motorola.
All of which worked fine. However one problem i found across these roms was memory management. If I was using an intense application like angry birds and then revert back to the Home Screen I would find that all my icons would take a bit of time to load up. Only ROM where this has not happened is MIUI.
Hope my experiences help!
edit: I should also add that I use the old boot.img file in 1.2.25 as I experience random reboots if I do not. This applies to all mods mentioned above.
hey jumbz55, I had the same memory management issue as well with non stock ROM. So far I'm happy after reverting back to Eclair from Froyo, but this MIUI ROM that you mentioned interests me..
What MIUI ROM would you recommend? I'm sure there are many flavours out there. I need one with good memory management and of course care about the battery.
Memory Management got fixed real good
zeppelinrox said:
Memory Management got fixed real good
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EXCELLENT WORK AS ALWAYS, Zeppelinrox
Roms I have once used:
5 in total
1. Froyomod 2.6.1/2.6/2.5
stability:
smoothness:
comment:
very nice with great memory management,
launcher seldom gets killed,
App2sd works well, the apps can be loaded quickly
Disadvantages:
GPS doesn't work
some demanding 3D games like NFS don't work (immediately get killed)
2.Shadowmod b3, b6
stability:
smoothness:
comments:
The best rom, thanks Edgard
app2sd works perfectly (after rebooting, the apps get loaded within 30s)
After playing 3d games like NFS, apps in apps drawer still need not be loaded again.
No laggy feeling (no kidding~!!!), launcher seldom gets killed but it can be loaded in no time.
3. Cronos gb 1.2
stability:
smoothness:
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If u use app2sd, don't try this rom....
coz the apps reload frequently,
launcher always get killed after surfing internet, not to mention playing any games.
Overall, don't judge a rom's ability by just looking at its popularity in xda....
The most common;y used rom may not be the best one
XDyuXD said:
Well, i'am new here and i have an Motorola Milestone. I'am from Brazil so my english is kinda bad, but whatever. I'am running stock 2.2.1 from brasil, and my Milestone runs very smoothy! No FC or reboots for 1 week! Iam running it at 1ghz @62vsel. The brasilian official froyo mix motoblur elements with the original android, so the lockscreen for exemple is the same as the motoblur one, and the keyboard is the same as motoblur, the white keyboard. I'am making a video, when i upload i post it here
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Which version: CLARO, TIM, VIVO or RETAIL?
What your impressions about the battery performance?
Thanks.
Regards.

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