So I've just recently flashed my vogue with myns donut for a couple days and It was pretty good. The camera worked but no video and neither did the gps. I understand that for verizon you have to follow a specific procudure to get that to work so that makes sense. I'm just curious to what android roms they are using for their vougue. I'm looking for one that has the most working features. Let me know what it is and how you had it set up.
For my Fresh Froyo although remember android no is 100% stable but Fresh Froyo is very good.
If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.
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If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.
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I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.
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I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.
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Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
I have searched but it has been a while since I looked in this section. Is it DZO's Fresh Froyo you use and I cannot find Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10??? Hope you can help, thanks.
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Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
aceoyame said:
Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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Would have to prove with that kernel I know how to adapt the kernel Clemsyn's to our Vogue if it works I comment as I was to see if I change my mind about your ROM
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Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
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The thread Fresh froyo this here, as well as guides for the installation of haret/nad, only is question search and read...
Prowess said:
aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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our vogue would not benefit from the battery enhancements since our kernels were designed for our battery
Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best
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Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best
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This is my situation too....as I posted above. I know how to install, but am unsure of exactly what you are recommending as to the Fresh Froyo files. Thanks again.
Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.
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Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
ROM: Fresh Froyo 2010-12-03
Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.
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Okay I am pretty sure I understood what you said. I have the files you suggested thanks for the help I will try it tonight.
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the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
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It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.
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aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
So it loses a lot of those tweaks but I can say 1 thing about cm6.1 and 7 so far, they are getting rather large themselves, I can look into cm7 for hero and find atleast 10 apks that just take up space or are only good once
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I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.
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It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.
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Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
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I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Using this kernel modified with atool I may obtained the benefits mentioned in the battery life?
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Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.
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even with barebones, the cm settings along with the now statistic reporting and updater (which cause FC's if removed) are still pretty huge. i have grown to like cm7 on my hero but with having so much stuff commited to the project as much as i hate to say it, there is starting to be alot of ::gulp:: bloatware
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Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
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You don't need a task killer. The newer versions of Android will shut down apps that aren't being used if the resources are needed elsewhere. If you run a Advanced Task Killer or something similar, it will use system resources shutting down apps that then re-open themselves, which the task killer will again kill. It drains the battery and makes the OS unstable. Uninstall your task killer for a few days and see if it helps.
I use Autostarts because it fixed a problem--the music player started randomly. I also use it to prevent some apps from starting up but it is probably not necessary.
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Hello all,
I'd like to ask which is the best distribution of Android for Kaiser - I mean everything working fine and so on.
I have HardSPL 3.29 and Radio 1.70.19.09 .. I tried one distro (Froyo 2.2 - Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo RLS14 All Languages) but when I started it.. it runs some time then the screen goes dark like sleep.. but when I press the power the screen image is broken... like white lines on the screen.. (this happens on both Incubus Super FroYo and Myn's Donut) ... I don't know is there some additional software that should be installed...
I use starting with HaReT via SD card...
I appreciate any help... Thanks in advance!
Best Regards,
Dimitar Dimitrov
The screen problem is wrong panel type, edit the default.txt in andboot folder, change the panel type, (board-htckaiser.panel_type=X), it can be either 1,2 or 3, if the display looks fine apart from sleep issues when you press power key, chances are you have a panel type 3, panel types 2 and 3 display the same, but have sleep issues if you choose the wrong one.
As for the best build? That is something you have to find out for yourself, not being funny, just that everyone has a different idea of 'best'
Thanks a lot!
Okay about the distribution... As I am new to Android at all... Can you please tell me your opinion about which distribution is working on kaiser (probably one you have tested and you are happy with it)
Thanks once again!
Kind regards!
Depends on what you want.
If you want speed, go with Myn's Warm Donut.
If you want to more apps, and less speed, go with Eclair.
If you want the latest apps and even less speed, try Froyo.
Thank you I'll try which one is working well on my kaiser and i'll choose one.. sorry for stupid questions anyway just i think it is better to ask someone who passed by those kinds of issues
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Okay about the distribution... As I am new to Android at all... Can you please tell me your opinion about which distribution is working on kaiser (probably one you have tested and you are happy with it)
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I think I have tried all of them, and only 1 is working fine and fast for me: dzo's froyo (currently 26-08-2010). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715402 (get it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ ) (the latest builds include all of the fixes, you don't need to patch anything after installing).
I am running it with haret on the SDcard. It's so fast and smooth I don't even feel the need to flash it to the nand (which would work even faster).
The eclair builds, (polymod 2.1d, etc...) even with compcache enabled they are too slow. Cyanogenmod is also extremely slow, and it was also freezing while the phone was sleeping). And the Donut builds are lacking features.
On my kaiser the dzo froyo build is at least as fast as the fastest donut builds I have used, and it's rock stable. Far better than the eclair and other froyo builds like cyanogenmod.
PS: do not use any "unodexed" or "deodexed" builds. They are slower.
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Depends on what you want.
If you want speed, go with Myn's Warm Donut.
If you want to more apps, and less speed, go with Eclair.
If you want the latest apps and even less speed, try Froyo.
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If you want the latest apps and the best speed and the best stability, try dzo's froyo.
On my kaiser this build feels like it came flashed originally instead of windows mobile. In comparison, the other builds felt like "hacks": slow and/or buggy.
Myn's RLS5 is the best for my kaiser.
And what about battery life?, Cyanogen literaly drain power in a few hours, froyo from dzo is better, but still is a problem for these builds.
Any recommendation?, the old Donut build battery lafe is the best (at least for me) but after several days the phone signal drops to zero, and i cant recover it !!
Please, your comments, thanks in advance!
yap i have same problem with phone signal. i wonder why...
Had this problem with a number of builds, turns out that using the 1.71 radio was the problem, reflashing 1.65 radio cured my 'No Signal' problems, sometimes latest is not always best
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Had this problem with a number of builds, turns out that using the 1.71 radio was the problem, reflashing 1.65 radio cured my 'No Signal' problems, sometimes latest is not always best
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I will try this, is terrific news !! at leas for me, haha.
Thank you !!
Regards
BigMango said:
If you want the latest apps and the best speed and the best stability, try dzo's froyo.
On my kaiser this build feels like it came flashed originally instead of windows mobile. In comparison, the other builds felt like "hacks": slow and/or buggy.
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I downloaded the latest system-WHATEVER for dzo's froyo...on my hd2 you unzip a zip...extract Android dir to SD card and run haret to start android....where exactly is haret and the other things to actually boot the system? It's not in the .tgz's being posted in that sourceforge dir.
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Had this problem with a number of builds, turns out that using the 1.71 radio was the problem, reflashing 1.65 radio cured my 'No Signal' problems, sometimes latest is not always best
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good new, but unfortunatly is not the only problem...did you solved battery draind issue? if yes let me know pls
BigMango said:
If you want the latest apps and the best speed and the best stability, try dzo's froyo.
On my kaiser this build feels like it came flashed originally instead of windows mobile. In comparison, the other builds felt like "hacks": slow and/or buggy.
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This has been my experience too. I tried several of each of the donut/eclair/froyo builds but the lastest kernel along with dzo's fresh froyo have made a world of difference. Way faster than even the donut builds that had previously been the faster of all of them.
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I downloaded the latest system-WHATEVER for dzo's froyo...on my hd2 you unzip a zip...extract Android dir to SD card and run haret to start android....where exactly is haret and the other things to actually boot the system? It's not in the .tgz's being posted in that sourceforge dir.
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HaRET is a separate tool, you can get it here.
2011 Builds
Hi
I see that no new builds are posted and for all the latest downloads are from 2010.
I tried using aTools and also downloaded new Froyo from SourceForge.net, but no luck - Android hangs. What other files should be updated to for all to work?
I understand, that aTools ia a mgnificent tool, and everybody can "cook" his own version at home, but it is not totally clear regarding what should be used as basefiles, or if you download a distribution (like i did system-froyo-all-odex-29-08-11_19-patched.tgz) will it properly work, or what should be done to work.
Any advices?
I just erased my CyonogenMod because was a bit slow and as i read, DZO froyo should do it.
Creating the defaul.txt is not a problem. My concern is the zimage, the initrd and the androidinstall to work together properly.
Cheers
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OK? solved: i had to swith aTools to use a Stable branch and downloaded another initrd. Now all went smooth, and i have latest android on my Kaiser - working fast.
No FileManager, but WiFi works, so as Market, so just download
As a last step, i created with atools an androidupdate file to change my keyboard settings.
That's it.
Astro was not showing up in Market so i went here and downloaded the apps / widgets as a standalone update: forum.smartphonejunkie.com/windows-mobile-apps/202417-dzos-fresh-froyo-2-2-odexed-vanilla-rls6-7-2-10-a.html
I have a single problem now: market does not show all the apps. I search for something, gives me 411 results, but shows only 2 apps. Why is that?
How can market be fixed?
7th September 2010, 01:58 AM
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This thread is a YEAR old. Of course there are newer roms after that date
I know there are newer roms, but had not been posted. But no problem, i found what i wanted, and i installed Android. Fixed market also.
I have another problem, and maybe i can reformulate the topic's title:
Which Android build is best for Kaiser's battery life?
I mean, the newest froyo drained my battery in one night. Windows Mobile last 3-4 days - depending on the use.
Tough question?
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Just want to say:
NFX-Hero 2.2.1 is just the version number. It is still based on HTC Sense 2.1.
There is currently no Sense 2.2 port for the Hero.
As for the stable kernel, I've heard good things about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
specifically [email protected] 09/14/2010, people refer to it as "#14 kernel"
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Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
Cyan is the almighty grand pubba of AOSP and was one of there first to release roms in the mainer we see them now. He does not do everything and all roms as he has allot of help from other devs, for us its Darch who maintains the Heroc version of cyanogen (sorry if I forgot some of you other devs)
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
All of the roms you see for the heros here that are AOSP based com from darch's and then cyans repo period, nightlies are built roms while we theme built roms roms deving is done from source and can be taken from different time and snap shots so nightly means nothing then.
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
The stable build of cm6.0 is from the combined deving of cyan, darch and alot of other people to bring the best of wheat works and leave out what doesn't. Nightlies usually are adding what seems to work but is not always guarenteed
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
Black mod is a theme, extreme blue is a themed rom compiled from cyan/drach's source vinilla is a terms used to describe a stock rom which is what cm6.00 stable and anyhting else that comes from the repo.
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
I'll go ape **** on this but asopMod v.03m is from cyan's source ino at first he tried to make it seem like he compiled from AOSP source but the fact is he uses cyans like almost everone else and if you check his thread now he given the props the the cyan team as he should have at first.... NFX-her is a sense based rom from android 2.1
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
Not yet but that would be nice nightlies are not considered stable and there for i dont think theyll be added to an updater like cm updater or fresh updater but when we start seeing more stable builds you'll see the updater used, cm updater is on cm6 right now just nothing to update
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
All phones should work with JIT (Just in Time) dalvik compiler, whether they run betters is a different story but I have never had issues
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
For sense I like fresh as he seems to be the best sense dev (imo) around here for AOSP you go with the grand master Cyan and his cm6 (for the hero) there are some other devs out there that make roms for other phones but most of them still use Cyan's repo.
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Yes Decadence
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if anyones see's an error in what i posted please correct me.
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
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not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
Brandito said:
not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
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Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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ASimmons said:
Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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Well fresh updater is pretty much the same as cm updater but its only for fresh roms. cm updater might not be part of cm6 I can't, it probably isnt. I actually would like it to be as with cm5 and below it also had themes in it. hopefully itll come back when theres more cm6 stables.
Thanks all. Didn't want to jump into 2.2 without knowing what I was getting into. I decided to start with CM6.0.0, and so far its been great. As mush as I love all things Freshh, I'm mad I waited this long. I DO miss the Senses dialer (minus the ungodly lag) and I havent made up my mind on the keyboard, but the overall speediness is killer.
Hell yea froyo/ CM.
What is this? It's an experimental ROM install setup that avoids the use of RFS entirely. The install basically pre-voodoo's your phone. If you know you want voodoo, this is faster than installing then doing voodoo, but it's a little more complicated. Not much, but be warned. It avoids the use of RFS durring install completely, so no RFS corruption to worry about.
The ROM itself is mostly untouched. The kernel is my Dragon Kernel, i9k based, so it will eat your battery (froyo only, eclair is better as we have source). I can get about 12 hours out of it. Buy a charger.
The new version is a 1-click install. It installs the kernel, reboots into it, then auto-installs the ROM. I tested it coming from JFD without issues.
These are based on voodoo5 beta code. Curio is releasing voodoo5 stable here soon, and I'll post an updated no-wipe kernel flash for that.
The ROMS are Team Whiskey Obsidian, Onyx, and Fusion. I changed the install procedure and the kernel out, the rest is as they made it. I take no credit for the ROM. Please post bugs here however, so I can make sure they are ROM bugs before letting TW know about them. I'm running the Onyx version as my daily driver. There has been some private beta testing, and they seem stable, but do have Odin handy just in case. I have installed over the top of various ROMs, but the safest way is probably to come from JFD just to be sure.
ALL THESE ROMS WIPE. NO, I WON'T CHANGE THAT.
Obsidian V5b: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Obsidian-Installer-v1.0.zip
Onyx 4.2: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Onyx-Installer-v1.0.zip
Fusion Final: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Fusion-Installer-v1.0.zip
NOTE: THESE INSTALL VOODOO. ALL THE USUAL VOODOO PRECAUTIONS APPLY, IF FLASHING SOMETHING, DISABLE IT FIRST.
The latest voodoo stuff seems to play nicer and I have flashed things from clockwork without bricking, but just be warned.
Updates:
Kernel with the stable voodoo5 release. Should work with any froyo ROM, does not wipe.
http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Kernel-Voodoo-v2.0.zip
I can conform that these are indeed working. And they work beautifully. I'm evening thinking about going back to some voodoo love.
Love your work ttabbal.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"
Hmmm...cool. Might have to try this with Axura 2.1.
geoffcorey said:
I can conform that these are indeed working. And they work beautifully. I'm evening thinking about going back to some voodoo love.
Love your work ttabbal.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"
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Curious! So what's the true (RFS free) Quadrant score for Vibrant?
Can we have just a kernel flash that will convert all the partitions? supercurio's i9000 flash doesn't wipe the data, it simply tars it and then untars it back once the conversion is done to each partition. Thanks for the hard work.
dasunsrule32 said:
Can we have just a kernel flash that will convert all the partitions? supercurio's i9000 flash doesn't wipe the data, it simply tars it and then untars it back once the conversion is done to each partition. Thanks for the hard work.
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The post is about the ROMs, but yes, the kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
It's the custom kernel I reference in the OP. If you want more than about 12 hours off charger, don't install it. I'm going to look at Eugene's recently posted source to see if I can implement whatever he did to get the kernel sleeping better, but no promises. And reports are kind of mixed last time I looked at it anyway.
When Samsung gets around to releasing source, we can do better. Till then, give me a patch or don't complain about it.
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The kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
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Nice. I'll hold off trying this with Axura 2.1 until this posted, then. A battery life of 12 hours is fine in exchange for what Voodoo will provide in return.
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The post is about the ROMs, but yes, the kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
It's the custom kernel I reference in the OP. If you want more than about 12 hours off charger, don't install it. I'm going to look at Eugene's recently posted source to see if I can implement whatever he did to get the kernel sleeping better, but no promises. And reports are kind of mixed last time I looked at it anyway.
When Samsung gets around to releasing source, we can do better. Till then, give me a patch or don't complain about it.
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Sweet, thank you.
i flashed this on obsidian v5 beta w/ jk6 modem and it running like a champ. however, you were right about the battery life
thanks for posting it before hand. i appreciated.
Love the new kernel would u consider an overlook version? Eugene 1256 is so snappy but it corrupts data. That speed plus voodoo is crazy fast. Real 2000 + quadrant.
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Froyo Kernel on Eclair?
ttabbal,
I did not know that a Froyo kernel could be backward compatible to Eclair. Is that the case, given that your Dragon 2.0 incorporating Voodoo 5 Stable will work with Bionix Fusion?
Please help me to understand this.
More to the point, I am on Bionix 1.9.1. Would Dragon 2.0 w/Voodoo 5 Stable work on my setup?
Thanks,
Bruce
Would love to use this, however i cant seem to get anything to install from the market no matter what i do. My TitaniumBackup restores just fine(apps only). Ive ODIN'd back to JFD twice but still nada. Ill try starting from JI6 and see if it helps.
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Curious! So what's the true (RFS free) Quadrant score for Vibrant?
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So I'm running ttabbal's latest kernel, 2.0, and just ran a quadrant. It gets 1564 as the score. Now, this isn't just from voodoo alone, he's done a few speed tweaked which will bump up the score. But it's snappy as hell.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"
Just put this in my phone and its works fine I'm running axura 2.1 works fine but u will see a second boot up screen the benchmark test is not that high I got in the 2500 with the oclf inthe market download but can't do that one anymore it tells me I have one installed already but over all its smooth
Don't worry about benchmarks, they are easy to fool in a high level system like Android. Cyanogen managed to get something stupid like 10k out of Quadrant.
This setup isn't for being a benchmark queen. It's targeted at a couple things I deem important. Multitasking smoothness/performance, and a test of direct-to-ext4 install. The no-wipe voodoo kernel is really intended to be used as part of the whole, but like I said, it should work with any froyo. Note: NOT ECLAIR. If there is more demand for an eclair version, I'll consider updating my eclair ramdisk as well.
As for the market, couldn't say. It's NOT the rom/kernel though. The market is a finicky thing and sometimes just doesn't work. It's usually the server side or the app itself that has an issue though. There's also an update to Market for Froyo, it seems to be more stable. You should get it downloaded automatically after running for a while. To check, look at an app description, you should have a new tab "Related".
When I've had market problems, I fire up my Wife's G2 on a stock rom (not even root) and she does too, so it's not anything I, or anyone other than Google, can control.
Does anyone know whether the Dragon Kernel that works with any Froyo ROM available from the OP supports use of a BootAnimation.zip?
UPDATE: Thanks geoffcorey for the info!
Tried on Axura 2.1 with larger nand. Flashed, rebooted, converted with no issues and is running very well so far. Haven't been successful getting Voodoo to run before now.
Thanks to TW, ttabbal, Supercurio, et al.
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Does anyone know whether the Dragon Kernel that works with any Froyo ROM available from the OP supports use of a BootAnimation.zip?
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yes, it supports bootanimation.zip
So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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I did this very thing in my post #16 above yours. Go for it! Remove any other lag fixes you may have though. I had none installed so I didn't have to do that. PERFORM A NANDROID backup and optionally copy to a computer before flashing the kernel to be safe. Restoring the Nandroid backup won't restore the kernel though.
The dangers are minimal if you backup. Permanently bricking the phone is unlikely. You may soft brick but you probably won't. PLUG IN AND DON'T TURN OFF THE PHONE UNTIL THE "TW" LOGO DISAPPEARS! Around this time, you will hear a voice say voodoo has been activated.
I believe the conversion process may attempt to revert the changes it tried to make in the event of an unsuccessful conversion. If reversion is successful then you should again have access to CWM to flash back to any rom you have stored on your phone. Use nandroid to restore your data and your back to normal.
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So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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Heimdall... Um if you cant get into download mode perhaps you shouldn't flash experimental things.
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is it possible to run a donut rom like superD 1.11 with a 2708+ kernel? has anyone done this? which kernel did you use --- pershoots? ezterrys?
thanks guys
---nevermind, answered. gonna try installing ezterry's original *crosses fingers*
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is it possible to run a donut rom like superD 1.11 with a 2708+ kernel? has anyone done this? which kernel did you use --- pershoots? ezterrys?
thanks guys
---nevermind, answered. gonna try installing ezterry's original *crosses fingers*
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Good luck but it works so u dont need luck
okay, so im using pershoots latest kernel with superD 1.11
two issues:
1. camera does not work. i expected as much using a kernel that was built to be run with froyo. but is there any way to fix this?
2. awful battery consumption. after unplugging my phone this morning, the phone ate up about 20% of the battery in less than 15 minutes. I am not overclocking at all, and I have setcpu running with conservative profiles enabled.
im gonna try ezterry's kernel and see if it helps with these issues.
anyone have any ideas or solutions?
Ehh even with the 2708 kernel etc battery should last longer look at ur battery is it flat? or a little bulge?
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okay, so im using pershoots latest kernel with superD 1.11
two issues:
1. camera does not work. i expected as much using a kernel that was built to be run with froyo. but is there any way to fix this?
2. awful battery consumption. after unplugging my phone this morning, the phone ate up about 20% of the battery in less than 15 minutes. I am not overclocking at all, and I have setcpu running with conservative profiles enabled.
im gonna try ezterry's kernel and see if it helps with these issues.
anyone have any ideas or solutions?
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Try flashing the kernel from this post over SuperD. It basically gives the camera app more space, so that it works. As a result, you will have a little less RAM, but the camera should work, as it is designed to be used on pre-froyo ROMs.
I have a question: do you also have awful video performance on every donut rom, when you have 2708 radio? Every donut I flash is extremely fast, but its 3d speed is similar to rom with ramhack. Is there any solution? I used pershoots and ezterrys kernel, but it didn't work
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Try flashing the kernel from this post over SuperD. It basically gives the camera app more space, so that it works. As a result, you will have a little less RAM, but the camera should work, as it is designed to be used on pre-froyo ROMs.
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If you are trying to get the new radio to work with older roms and experience camera issues: I've a slightly reduced ram version of the kernel that allows camera the full 8MB.
http://sandbox.devnull.name/android/ezOldBuildsKernel-2708_S.zip
MD5: 84cf7c7d2a923eed962aef5e1a6a94e9
This will work on CM4/5 however the install is not as trivial as just flashing some potential problems you may need to solve:
* Different path to the modules (move to correct place or add a symlink)
* old version of rzscontrol giving typewriter errors (pull the binary in recent cm builds and replace)
* modules not loaded by default that are needed (edit an init.d script)
Once these actions are made your rom will likely work as expected. I provide this file to help you port your older roms to the newer radio; not as a quick patch that will make everything work on its own. (For that I make things like the new CM5 2708 port where I manually cleanup the system in the updater.zip)
Kernel source code at:
https://github.com/ezterry/kernel-biff-testing/commit/293de79ddd313bbccb06b6cddd1cdef3de9af797
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Anyone done this? It's a bit beyond me..
For a while I would like to ask this question, but I cannot post on the dev forum on the ezgingerbread thread:
Which one is faster or less laggy? I've been on ezgingerbread for more than two months, pulled the repo and compiled the .zip to install, also tried 0818 precompiled download. However, even the newest version does not give me the same speed I had with terry's MT3d OTA rom. On ezgingerbread, when I press Gmail for a first time, I still need to wait from 10sec to 30 sec for my gmail to occur (613MHz), it become 1-2 seconds if I open gmail again, but that performance doesn't hold if the interval is, for example, an hour or so.
I've heard good words about froyo by laszlo except that it is not developed now, but I guess what I care is: is it less laggy than ezgingerbread? I've read the comments following the poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18067831#post18067831
and developed a doubt about trying froyo by laszlo at this date. What do you think? As flashing a rom and reinstall would take me quite some time (not sure if titanium backup can restore my apps in gingerbread to froyo, or if the nandroid backup actually works perfectly...)
Your input is greatly appreciated.
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
AndDiSa said:
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
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Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
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Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
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Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
Try both, then choose froyo for laszlo.
I use Froyo Melt by ldrifta (AKA: DreamTeam Froyo). It is very fast from my experience on G1. I also have apps and data on SD card with no lag (at this point) with about 20 apps installed. The only thing I use with GAPPS is the GMail.
So, based on my experience I would pick froyo for laszlo if I have to pick between the two.
If your looking for a fast GB ROM, with a good amount of internal space. Use my ROM Nomy CM7.1 2.3.7. Its really fast, is ment for optimum RAM. I'll be adding legacy Apps2ext. No MTD needed, no swap, its under 40MB Zipped. 52 on system. It will be under 40MB unzipped by the end of this month.
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For me froyo by laszlo runs faster.
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Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
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So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
i know what you mean, I like gingerbread better than froyo for some reason, its just addicting... i guess.
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So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
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I like this idea. is this possible?
or just remove market updater before you open market for the 1st time. that works too
vincom said:
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
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just got the sg2 lte skyrocket, cost me nothing, actually received $10 back buying from costco, so byebye g1, this new phone is fast, really fast, well compared to my g1, i cant go back
repast said:
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
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Agreed. Gingerbread, although not extremely fast, is a very nice, clean upgrade. Gb, and almost any version of it, is a interface clearly focusing on more than just performance, it offers aesthetics like nothing else.