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Noobish Questions HTC Pure TOPA210

OK.. First. After running this on my Pure, I could kick myself for not getting an android phone to begin with!
Now, my questions and queries..
1. Is there any version 2.1, 2.2 ..etc that has sound (external speaker, screen taps, music etc) working?
2. I played with 2.1 startups and etc and got everything to work essentially but the external sound. After I tried the latest 2.2 and rc1, which would hang on calls (only time I got it to load completely), I went back to 2.1, which hangs on calls now. So, my question is, is there a recommended setup for 2.1 on a Pure TOPA210?
3. The release notes say for rc1 the sound issues are fixed. I try to run it, and it freezes on creating data.img. There is a post describing using the image from 2.1, but that makes "panic", and none of the fixes in that post seem to work. So question is, any recommendations on setup for 2.2 on Pure TOPA210?
Really awesome thing y'all are doing here, BTW.

smoakeater said:
OK.. First. After running this on my Pure, I could kick myself for not getting an android phone to begin with!
Now, my questions and queries..
1. Is there any version 2.1, 2.2 ..etc that has sound (external speaker, screen taps, music etc) working?
2. I played with 2.1 startups and etc and got everything to work essentially but the external sound. After I tried the latest 2.2 and rc1, which would hang on calls (only time I got it to load completely), I went back to 2.1, which hangs on calls now. So, my question is, is there a recommended setup for 2.1 on a Pure TOPA210?
3. The release notes say for rc1 the sound issues are fixed. I try to run it, and it freezes on creating data.img. There is a post describing using the image from 2.1, but that makes "panic", and none of the fixes in that post seem to work. So question is, any recommendations on setup for 2.2 on Pure TOPA210?
Really awesome thing y'all are doing here, BTW.
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There are no noobish questions, only stupid answers .
1. There is no build yet with the external sound working ( known and common problem on TP2 and TD2 ).
2. I would recommend to use the 2.2 Froyo build because the 2.1 is no longer under development, we are focusing now ( devs i mean ) to Froyo build mainly now.
3. From Froyo beta v2 till RC1 we had some problems running the build ( kernel panics ), but all was fixed with a new zImage ( 20/07 zImage i think ) anyway head over to the general thread here and go back 1-2 pages back and you will see which one fixes that.

Thanks! The newer zimage and such got it going! I cam use the data connection, but still hangs on calls with the latest, so will try the image from 7-20 and see how that works.. Thanks for the help!

I guess I'm a bigger noob! I'm having trouble locating a froyo build that works on my HTC PURE (topa210).
What builds / sources are you using?

nitronikon said:
I guess I'm a bigger noob! I'm having trouble locating a froyo build that works on my HTC PURE (topa210).
What builds / sources are you using?
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I am using the newest package and the 7-29 silage package and works great on my pure
Sent from my MSM using XDA App

QUESTION TIME:
if we are using xdandroid on on our td2's does that make it by default rooted???
and do we have cyanogen mod or not???

Trekfan422991 said:
QUESTION TIME:
if we are using xdandroid on on our td2's does that make it by default rooted???
and do we have cyanogen mod or not???
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Answer time :
Yes, XDAndroid is by default rooted.
Yeah we have CyanogenMod for our device, head over here for more details.

cool thanks.. one more...
will any android rom work on our device or just specialy cooked ones for the td2 (pure)

Trekfan422991 said:
cool thanks.. one more...
will any android rom work on our device or just specialy cooked ones for the td2 (pure)
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Some of the chefs modifies the kernel,... for their devices ( but they are very rare ). You can use the "roms" from devices listed in my signature under the XDAndroid logo. But i think in near future the Android "roms" for TD2 will start poping up.

Where can the "silage package" be found?
Thanks!

is it true that the random app launching is a an issue on all android phones and that google can gemotely do anything that they want to to the device???
im really hating the ads and the random app launching!!!!

[ROM] WildVogue- Sense Froyo Edition

This is Froyo Sense coming to Vogue...
Calling does not work!!
The latest kernel 240x320 works the best.
It runs about as fast as Super Hero with no Overclocking when WildVogue is oc'ed to 520 mhz with Rogue tools
It runs from a system.img but i am working to strip it down to NAND
Data should be put on NAND
I have no clue if this will work on Polaris or Kaiser(It'd be helpful if someone could try...)
here are some preliminary screenshots(attached).
This preliminary(Beta) build:
Thanks vellowax for all the help
Thanks Thoughtlesskyle for your kind suggestions
And the whole community for all the previous work that helped me get here.
Its a port from WildPuzzle v8 for Wildfire
the androidinstall.tar is here
I'm looking for help learning and developing it but I'm coming along
This is a Beta I have no responsibility whatsoever if you brick your phone
If you have any suggestions please reply in this thread

Lovely!
jholtom said:
This is Froyo Sense coming to Vogue...
Calling does not work!!
...
I'm looking for help learning and developing it but I'm coming along
This is a Beta I have no responsibility whatsoever if you brick your phone
If you have any suggestions please reply in this thread
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I will try this when calling works but keep your progress--make it mature!

Your download link doesn't work
I figured it out, but you might want to edit it and correct it.
I'll do some testing with this as I have a spare phone that's not activated.

jholtom said:
I have no clue if this will work on Polaris or Kaiser(It'd be helpful if someone could try...)
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Excellent Jholtom, I've linked this thread in Kaiser forums, If noone will be brave enough to try it out I will test it in the afternoon. Great job!

link is doesnt work if i download this ill try yhe kaiser but icant download this link

The link is fixed now

can not install kaiser because low memory on nand

What Kernel are you using for this jholtom ?
I tried using the 11/29/10 2.6.32 kernel and was getting an error message.
I'll try again with the 10/29/10 2.6.32 kernel

Will give this a try.

I have it installed on the kaiser. It took a little work but its on. It will only work in 320x240 and with at least 200 mb for sys and then use an ext2.img for data. One problem I am having though is that all the HTC setup apps fc. I am going to try just removing them and see how that works. I used an old october kernel as I tried to update to the 11/29 one and was getting a module error and did try the android update and it didnt solve it so I rolled back.

trashed my super froyo so i guess ill give this a try........

great jobs,i'll give it a try

I managed to actually get into the rom finally. I took a setupwizard from a froyo rom and used it. I had to really fight with it though. The wizard ran poorly, and the date and time settings at the end kept fc'ing looping it back to the beginning of the wizard until finally it went into the rom. Going to test it now. I do not believe its a phone issue but a build issue as of right now. If you could remove the date and time settings it is referring to then I think it might be a bit better.
To run on the kaiser so far i've had to:
Set resolution to 320x240, Change partition to be 200 MB on SYS and rest on DATA via ext2.img . Afterwards I took a setupwizard.apk from a froyo rom and then renamed and replaced the HTCSetupWizard.apk the rom included as that was contributing to FC's.
On the kaiser wifi and the radio are not working. Both get an error when attempting to be used. I am going to try bringing in a etc folder from a working froyo rom and see if that solves the issue.
Lastly there is a power issue on the kaiser. It seems to keep thinking its almost near dead while on usb even though in the kernel it shows the proper power levels.

OK...
Tried this on my Vogue
the 10-31-10 2.6.25 NBH kernel will work.
BUT!!!
Do NOT try this on a class 2 card - OMFG... WAY too slow
Class 4 or class 6 at least...
Hopefully you can fit it in NAND soon?

aceoyame said:
I managed to actually get into the rom finally. I took a setupwizard from a froyo rom and used it. I had to really fight with it though. The wizard ran poorly, and the date and time settings at the end kept fc'ing looping it back to the beginning of the wizard until finally it went into the rom. Going to test it now. I do not believe its a phone issue but a build issue as of right now. If you could remove the date and time settings it is referring to then I think it might be a bit better.
To run on the kaiser so far i've had to:
Set resolution to 320x240, Change partition to be 200 MB on SYS and rest on DATA via ext2.img . Afterwards I took a setupwizard.apk from a froyo rom and then renamed and replaced the HTCSetupWizard.apk the rom included as that was contributing to FC's.
On the kaiser wifi and the radio are not working. Both get an error when attempting to be used. I am going to try bringing in a etc folder from a working froyo rom and see if that solves the issue.
Lastly there is a power issue on the kaiser. It seems to keep thinking its almost near dead while on usb even though in the kernel it shows the proper power levels.
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@aceoyame
you are on a kaiser right?
Everything works fine on my vogue running 240x320 2.6.32-froyo-09/10/21 kernel
I get through the setup wizard fine and it runs pretty darn fast for sense when overclocked to 545 with Rogue tools
Wifi and radio have not been repaired yet from froyo i'm working on
Remember this is a Beta build

Does_It_Matter said:
OK...
Tried this on my Vogue
the 10-31-10 2.6.25 NBH kernel will work.
BUT!!!
Do NOT try this on a class 2 card - OMFG... WAY too slow
Class 4 or class 6 at least...
Hopefully you can fit it in NAND soon?
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@Does_it_Matter
What device are you on?
I would try the 240x320 2.6.32 froyo 09/10/21 kernel for vogue(if thats what you have)
I dont know for kaiser of polaris

The build itself is a decent speed but the problem is, your not able to clock up with rogue tools until after you have everything set up. So default were at 400 mhz which is dirt slow. As for the kernel, I don't believe thats going to make a difference here. I did try to merge the etc folder with fresh froyo's and it made no difference. I thought maybe the missing wifi levels folder and a couple other things would help.
That means our problem is deeper somewhere else for those. Also, I would include rogue tools in the build itself to save some hassle downloading it at slow speeds.
fyi, i'm a kaiser developer. I know I never post on the vogue or polaris forums.

jholtom said:
@aceoyame
you are on a kaiser right?
Everything works fine on my vogue running 240x320 2.6.32-froyo-09/10/21 kernel
I get through the setup wizard fine and it runs pretty darn fast for sense when overclocked to 545 with Rogue tools
Wifi and radio have not been repaired yet from froyo i'm working on
Remember this is a Beta build
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I am using L1qu1ds .32 kernel dated from 10/29/2010. It isn't a kernel issue that I am having but like I said, rogue tools cannot clock up the build until after installation.

aceoyame said:
I am using L1qu1ds .32 kernel dated from 10/29/2010. It isn't a kernel issue that I am having but like I said, rogue tools cannot clock up the build until after installation.
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> /sys/module/clock_7x00/parameters/ahb_div
echo 500 > /sys/module/clock_7x00/parameters/a11
add that to the top of the userinit.sh to have it overclocked to 500mhz from the getgo. It will be overclocked throughout the boot process.
Thanks mssmison for the info.

incubus26jc said:
> /sys/module/clock_7x00/parameters/ahb_div
echo 500 > /sys/module/clock_7x00/parameters/a11
add that to the top of the userinit.sh to have it overclocked to 500mhz from the getgo. It will be overclocked throughout the boot process.
Thanks mssmison for the info.
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Thats not the same as overclocking through atools right? I know that through a tools the kaiser gets unstable as all hell. For some reason it doesnt with rogue tools.

G1 what should I flash on it?

Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request

gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Are you using setcpu to overlock your phone? If you're running a cyanogen rom or cyanogen based rom the overclock kernel is included, you just need setcpu from the market, or you can get it for free here on xda. It will allow you to overclock. If you are already overclocking, and you need a 2.1+ rom, I suppose you could try SuperE or SuperFly, they are fairly fast.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide

gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Personally I'd steer clear of Cyan roms until your more comfortable with setting things up, personally I don't use cyans but thats my choice.
I'd go with either EZterry's asop or the new enom 'official' that is out and has a few more configurable options. All the fun of the fair without the bloatware cm roms have and will ease you into the world of flashing

Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.

Wipe?
With the newer CyanogenMod stuff I have found that wiping and reflashing the same ROM in recovery seems to help substantially on the FCs and lagginess.
I'm not sure why the full wipe / reflash works, but I suppose it has something to do with the inability to do a complete wipe. I haven't tried the new uber wipe that just came out, but I would be curious to see if that had better results as a starting point for a ROM install.
Also, I found I was happier on CyanogenMod with LauncherPlus over the included ADW Launcher. Though that was on the beta of 6.1 and I know the 6.1 stable has a newer version of ADW which might have addressed some of its annoyances.
I recommend setting up Titanium Backup for apps or using Droid Explorer to pull a backup of your ideal application environment. This will make swapping out ROMs quick for testing out what works for you.

mn3kgtvr4 said:
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
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For speed and stability its difficult to beat the SuperD 1.11 rom ....essentially a donut (1.6) rom stripped and then filled with 2.1 (eclair) goodness. Sweet.

Most Complete/Stable Vogue Android Build

So I've just recently flashed my vogue with myns donut for a couple days and It was pretty good. The camera worked but no video and neither did the gps. I understand that for verizon you have to follow a specific procudure to get that to work so that makes sense. I'm just curious to what android roms they are using for their vougue. I'm looking for one that has the most working features. Let me know what it is and how you had it set up.

For my Fresh Froyo although remember android no is 100% stable but Fresh Froyo is very good.

If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.

aceoyame said:
If you know what you want my barebones build is known to be one of the fastest and most stable builds. With that though you need to get the apk's to what you want and add them in. It is meant to be as cut down to the minimum to be light and lithe on our devices.
Another way to get apps is to use the market, I have the most recent version of the market in my build. CM 6.1 is Froyo based so you have video and all the other froyo features.
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I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.

Josue_181 said:
I tested more than 10 ROM including the yours and I am sorry to tell you than ever before me to worked well even the last released CM 6.1, does not work properly with the kernel that is in my signature and is the one that works best with the USB sync and just by this already this ruled out your ROM, so I'm still saying Fresh Froyo for me is the more stable and clean ROM of froyo that I tested.
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Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.

Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
I have searched but it has been a while since I looked in this section. Is it DZO's Fresh Froyo you use and I cannot find Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10??? Hope you can help, thanks.

aceoyame said:
Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!

aceoyame said:
Well mine is assuming you want to use the .32 kernel. Which with Clemsyn's kernel works very well. Battery life sucks though since the changes haven't been committed to git yet. But with that kernel I have not had any data loss since it came out.
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Would have to prove with that kernel I know how to adapt the kernel Clemsyn's to our Vogue if it works I comment as I was to see if I change my mind about your ROM
krwilson said:
Josue_181 ......Any chance you could post where you got the exact images/files etc. if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! I hope to run from haret if possible.
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The thread Fresh froyo this here, as well as guides for the installation of haret/nad, only is question search and read...

Prowess said:
aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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our vogue would not benefit from the battery enhancements since our kernels were designed for our battery

Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best

loffyg said:
Okay so you say fresh froyo is one of the best? I looked it up but I am confused about what to download. Any advice would be great. I know how to install it I just dont know what file is the latest/best
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This is my situation too....as I posted above. I know how to install, but am unsure of exactly what you are recommending as to the Fresh Froyo files. Thanks again.

Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.

Josue_181 said:
Well try to be brief to that understand... (my English is very bad).
They must go to the thread of Fresh Froyo and go to this page, there download the ROM latest although I recommend the penultimate that is in my signature the most recent gave me problems.
ROM: Fresh Froyo 2010-12-03
Kernel: 2.6.25 10-31-10
The ROM download whith the name system-froyo-us-unodex-XX-XX-XX (X are date) have to rename it to androidinstall.tgz and copy in the ANDBOOT folder then locate the kernel of their choice here, the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
For the rest follow the installation guide in NAND is here and everything should go well.
Not be as it is done for HARET but here also the Guide to install in haret. I believe with what I said is more than enough so installed android in their device.
Best regards.
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Okay I am pretty sure I understood what you said. I have the files you suggested thanks for the help I will try it tonight.

Josue_181 said:
the most recent is 2.6.32 although I recommend 2.6.25 which is in my signature if need USB mass storage in 2.6.32 doesn't work.
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It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.

Prowess said:
aceoyame,
How would it be possible to get the battery enhancements into the git? We need help!
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I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.

So it loses a lot of those tweaks but I can say 1 thing about cm6.1 and 7 so far, they are getting rather large themselves, I can look into cm7 for hero and find atleast 10 apks that just take up space or are only good once
aceoyame said:
I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.

goducks3620 said:
It works in Ubuntu Linux. It does not work for Windows 7, at least that I could configure successfully.
I'm using SuperFroyo and the 2.6.32.9 Kernel and a few things I noticed to make it more stable: don't use a Task Killer and be sparing in your use of a cache cleaner. Seriously, a week of doing that has really helped things. Trust the Linux Kernel, it's not Windows. I also used Autostarts to prevent a few of the more eager apps from starting automatically post-boot, but that's optional.
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Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
aceoyame said:
I cannot as I do not have Clemsyn's kernel so I cannot commit his fixes for stability to git. As far as the git kernel goes it already has those fixes.
Also with fresh froyo or any AOSP build you will not have as much speed since it does not have all the Cyanogen Mod tweaks.
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Using this kernel modified with atool I may obtained the benefits mentioned in the battery life?

aceoyame said:
Yeah that is true, it's why I made a barebones.
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even with barebones, the cm settings along with the now statistic reporting and updater (which cause FC's if removed) are still pretty huge. i have grown to like cm7 on my hero but with having so much stuff commited to the project as much as i hate to say it, there is starting to be alot of ::gulp:: bloatware

Josue_181 said:
Does seem contradictory as to not use a task killer, the task killer close applications that are open and if you don't use are accumulating and this put slow the phone, the APP autostarts manager if I heard but none that worked well in my Vogue, which do you use?
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You don't need a task killer. The newer versions of Android will shut down apps that aren't being used if the resources are needed elsewhere. If you run a Advanced Task Killer or something similar, it will use system resources shutting down apps that then re-open themselves, which the task killer will again kill. It drains the battery and makes the OS unstable. Uninstall your task killer for a few days and see if it helps.
I use Autostarts because it fixed a problem--the music player started randomly. I also use it to prevent some apps from starting up but it is probably not necessary.

[Q] ezgingerbread vs. froyo by laszlo?

For a while I would like to ask this question, but I cannot post on the dev forum on the ezgingerbread thread:
Which one is faster or less laggy? I've been on ezgingerbread for more than two months, pulled the repo and compiled the .zip to install, also tried 0818 precompiled download. However, even the newest version does not give me the same speed I had with terry's MT3d OTA rom. On ezgingerbread, when I press Gmail for a first time, I still need to wait from 10sec to 30 sec for my gmail to occur (613MHz), it become 1-2 seconds if I open gmail again, but that performance doesn't hold if the interval is, for example, an hour or so.
I've heard good words about froyo by laszlo except that it is not developed now, but I guess what I care is: is it less laggy than ezgingerbread? I've read the comments following the poll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18067831#post18067831
and developed a doubt about trying froyo by laszlo at this date. What do you think? As flashing a rom and reinstall would take me quite some time (not sure if titanium backup can restore my apps in gingerbread to froyo, or if the nandroid backup actually works perfectly...)
Your input is greatly appreciated.

If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€

AndDiSa said:
If you do an nandroid+ext / bart backup switching between ROMs is not such a big thing, as long as radio/SPL requirements are the same.
Speed of ROMs is very subjective and depends much on the applications / services you've installed and which are running. If you do *not* install lastest Google Maps / Market / G+ / ... there is not so much difference between Froyo and Gingerbread, but if you use those apps on Gingerbread for sure it will be slower.
Just my 0.02€
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Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA

repast said:
Thanks a lot AndDiSa! I did use the modded Brut Google Map with ezgingerbread, but the markets etc are updated to newest.
I do not quite understand your last sentence: why newest Gapps are "for sure" slower on gingerbread, mind to elaborate a bit to a newbie? TIA
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Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".

i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself

Try both, then choose froyo for laszlo.

I use Froyo Melt by ldrifta (AKA: DreamTeam Froyo). It is very fast from my experience on G1. I also have apps and data on SD card with no lag (at this point) with about 20 apps installed. The only thing I use with GAPPS is the GMail.
So, based on my experience I would pick froyo for laszlo if I have to pick between the two.

If your looking for a fast GB ROM, with a good amount of internal space. Use my ROM Nomy CM7.1 2.3.7. Its really fast, is ment for optimum RAM. I'll be adding legacy Apps2ext. No MTD needed, no swap, its under 40MB Zipped. 52 on system. It will be under 40MB unzipped by the end of this month.
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For me froyo by laszlo runs faster.
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AndDiSa said:
Latest Market (3.1.6) is using ~10MB of internal Memory and > 25MB when running, even worse the situation for G+ and Maps. It's too much for a G1. As far as I know, those versions of the apps are not available for Froyo, but I might be wrong. That's the reason why I told "Gingerbread with the lastest Gapps is for sure slower than Froyo".
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So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?

After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!

i know what you mean, I like gingerbread better than froyo for some reason, its just addicting... i guess.

repast said:
So if I ever want to stay with ezgingerbread, can I freeze the version of these apps:
Market to 3.1.5,
Gmail to 2.3.5.
Map 5.10.1
as I currently see them on my Froyo by Laszlo, can I expect similar feeling as a froyo ROM?
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I like this idea. is this possible?

or just remove market updater before you open market for the 1st time. that works too

vincom said:
i tried both, lazlos is faster, did not use ext on sdcard. try both its not hard to switch between the 2 and see for yourself
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just got the sg2 lte skyrocket, cost me nothing, actually received $10 back buying from costco, so byebye g1, this new phone is fast, really fast, well compared to my g1, i cant go back

repast said:
After several days, I restored back to ezgingerbread.
Froyo gives a rough feeling. Like everything is half-baked. Froyo by Laszlo has a problem in the battery life, I flashed ezterry's newest kernel over it, still not up to my expectation (not sure why). So I am going back.
I do not have enough time to try other roms suggested to me, guys, sorry!
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Agreed. Gingerbread, although not extremely fast, is a very nice, clean upgrade. Gb, and almost any version of it, is a interface clearly focusing on more than just performance, it offers aesthetics like nothing else.