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Poor Gameplay with 2d games

Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks

aqm5181 said:
Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
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if they are old games that could be the reason why, it doesn have support for GDI i think it is. have you tryed any emulators? GBA for example?
www.sunbug.net

Thanks for the speedy reply!
Pool Rebel is a new release but is still very sluggish. I have contacted their support team as it may just be that the game is not optimised for the cpu.
VT pocket tennis was designed for PPC2002! Used to work very well on my TYTN but is virtually unplayable on TYTN II.
Will I be able to use the emulator on games designed for PPC?

I'm not sure what is the problem, but I can comfirm that the graphic chipset integrated in MSM7200 is one of ATI Imageon product.
http://brew.qualcomm.com/bnry_brew/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
from the data sheet, the performance should be said as good, so perhaps the new graphic chipset is not supported?

Maybe HTC has disabled most of the Video chipset functionality, they have a habit of disabling everything before launch! *Shakes fist*

It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...

mmone3 said:
It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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Just imagine the Touchflo cube interface with D3D. Mmm.

wow, page 5, what game is that???
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
looks so cool for a ppc game!

I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??

Some benchmarks
TyTn 2 graphic is slower than HTC Mogul
http://mymobile911.com/dnn2/bBenchmarkDatab/tabid/60/Default.aspx
TyTn 2 graphic is the fastest
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=442869&sid=2ddc04dc6332d94bdbb0a5dc00627b54

ksjulsen said:
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
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this is not because it has poor graphics or has trouble playing it, it's cause PocketSnes hasnt been updated in such a long time it doesnt even support the phone completely or support teh GFX driver. however, have you tried Morphgear?
http://soft.softoogle.com/ap/morphgear-download-5321.shtml

Yeah, I tried pool rebel too ... and damn, it is so slow
Any reply from their support?
Btw, any good game for this Kaiser? The one that is nice and fast.

Support have replied. They will be adding Direct X support for the game in future release although have not specified when. That should hopefully improve performance. I have tried the following games and they work well:
Flux Challenge
Sky Force
Sky Force Reloaded
Resco Guardians
Anthelion 2
Argentum
Explode Arena
KRally
Snails
SPB AirIslands
Stolen In 60 Seconds
Cheers

Best games you have played and would recommend

Exactly as the title says.
Also post games you hate so we dont fall for them:
Games i've tried and recommend:
Age of empires gold (Name says it all)
Sim City 2000 (dito)
Dopewars (Addicting)
Teeter (Comes with the phone)
MC Poker (play online with other people Texas Hold 'em)
SkyForce Reloaded (Really fun; just try it)
Snood (aim and shoot "snoods" and match them up to destroy them)
Midnight Pool 3d ( Im a pool fanatic *demo comes with phone)
Games not to get:
Arvale II (just too simple / redundant. Its rpg style but it sucks (in my opinion))
Feel free to add on

Couple of old games I had that work well on my Sprint TP:
Acky's XP Breakout - VGA breakout-style game works nicely with the stylus
Atomic Cannon - Nice graphics on a Scorched Earth-type game. This one occasionally has a sound glitch where the sound stops, going into sound settings and disable/enable cycle fixes.
Bejeweled 2 - Of course. How can you go wrong?

Not all test on the TP but I was just looking on other forums about best games. And here is a list I made of games I wanna try
Call of Duty 2
Warfare Inc
Arvale and Arvale 2
Krally
minijetfight
UNDERCROFT
soldier ants.
SkyForce Reloaded
Lemonade inc
tots n togs
The Quest
Quake Mobile
Rayman Ultimate
pocket heroes

I would highly recommend Orions: Legend of Wizards and its expansions.

could you provide links as to where you get the games from...

yeah sure when i get to a computer. i gotta say some of those suggestions look really good. i warn you though if you get the arvale series only get the demos because you will be dissapointed
p.s. has anyone here actually played the quest? it looks interesting, but is it worth it?

systoxity said:
yeah sure when i get to a computer. i gotta say some of those suggestions look really good. i warn you though if you get the arvale series only get the demos because you will be dissapointed
p.s. has anyone here actually played the quest? it looks interesting, but is it worth it?
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I'd love to see some links also. Does Sim City 2000 work well with the Fuze controls? Do you play with keyboard out, or no? Does it display full screen landscape?

lemings
syberia
warcraft2
ufo
and if one goes into the whole
amiga, c64, snes and MAME emulator
scene then it's a different question i guess
diff people diff tastes i like fps games as much as
the next guy but dont really feel it works on pda's using
the touch screen
tombraider worked ok but required many many hardbuttons to
work so dont believe any htc devices ever had the option to stop
the game without softreset

thanks for the recommendations. what am i not seeing with dopewars? i tried it for two seconds and was already bored (and a bit confused).
by the way, please indicate if your recommendations require extensive use of the d-pad (touchpad). we all know it's not the best to use and i've had to stop playing one of my favorites (ms. pac-man) because it's clumsy to navigate in fast-paced games without hitting the back or home buttons.

I have always been addicted to Quartz 2 and am glad to see that they have released a VGA version.
http://www.clickgamer.com/moreinfo.htm?pid=19204&r=ba911&section=PPC&b=

Rudegar said:
lemings
tombraider worked ok but required many many hardbuttons to
work so dont believe any htc devices ever had the option to stop
the game without softreset
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I never softreset when I want to stop playing TombRaider. Press Home button, click right corner (HTC Task Manager), hold your finger/stylus and drag until you'll see Tomb Raider, move to X (you need to hold your finger cos' the screen flickers).
Have you found a method to map the keys? The arrow keys are kinda reversed.
Some of the games I've tested:
- Rayman, bad control, poor framerate
- Prince of Persia HD, moves heavily
- Assassins Creed, again moves heavly, the game is not fluid
- Zuma Deluxe, nice one
- DragonBall, zuma deluxe style game, kinda slow
- Warfare Inc, nice strategy game
- I244 Machines at War, again nice strategy game
- Spore, kinda slow
- Lemmings
- NFS, jerky game
- Cokoto CartRacer, jerky game, poor graphics
- Rats, nice platform game but it's so slowly on TP
- Age of Empires
- Warcraft 2, i cannot select items properly.. it's like the screen is not calibrated
- TombRaider, this one runs really good. If I can remap the keys as I want..
- Bejeweled 2, nice logic game
- Pac-Man
- Quake III Arena
- Call of Duty II
I recommend (you don't need to rely on D-PAD for these games):
- Bejeweled 2
- Zuma Deluxe
- DragonBall (even if it's a bit slow)
- Warfare Inc
- I244 Machines at War
- Age of Empires
And for show-off:
- COD 2
- Quake III Arena
You may also check the following topics:
- hardware accelerated games on Touch Pro
- Emulators for Touch Pro

Has anyone installed Hasbro Scrabble on a VGA device? I hope it doesn't go bonkers.

aadadams said:
Has anyone installed Hasbro Scrabble on a VGA device? I hope it doesn't go bonkers.
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You have to be careful which one you get.
Handmark Scrabble works perfectly with pixel doubling. Highly recommended.
EA Mobile Scrabble is gorgeous, but unbelievably bad. The control was designed for mobile phones and it lacks enormously important features. Just... don't.

I have Handmark Scrabble and am very glad to know that when my device arrives on Friday that my favorite game will work. Curious about pixel doubling though, wouldn't there actually need to be pixel quadrupling in order to go from qvga to vga?

none of the games i recomended need the dpad... simcity2000 works well just run the tut. it can be a bit of a strain on the eyes sometimes.

Concerning d-pad troubles. Could there be a way to disable the phone and windows/back buttons prior to starting a game and automatically re-enable them when you quit? This way games would be much more playable...

aadadams said:
I have Handmark Scrabble and am very glad to know that when my device arrives on Friday that my favorite game will work. Curious about pixel doubling though, wouldn't there actually need to be pixel quadrupling in order to go from qvga to vga?
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Technically, yes. But since most of the math involved is just multiplying by two on each axis, "doubling" does make some sense. And it's shorter and easier to say.

OK, that's good enough for me.

asphalt 4 vga here http://www.actualitemobile.com/forum/index.php/topic,4441.0.html

Resco Bubbles is nice, if you like Tweeter.

APPLE's Iphone games/apps VS Windows Mobile Pocket PC's apps/games

hi i just seen the iphone/ipod touch apps and games, but comparing to our windows mobile apps and games iphone/itouch has wide selection and not also that, its much well detailed on the version comparing to WinMo
are there any no good developers to port this on WinMo? we win on the UI and customable home menu (UI sense) but in the entertainment section we failed
just for an example: EA games, the NFS undercover on iphone is much richer on both graphics and gameplay compare to WinMo version its just like a java version in a CAB file... but we all know WinMo has greater RAM and grafix (HTC HD had) i think WinMo lacks the developer
post your thoughts

its true,
but with the comming of snapdragon and tegra devices, the developers will soon follow.
(and hopefully PSP, DS and iPhone emulators :-D )

I think it's because iPhone must use its own apps and games. And other wm phones have more choices on apps. So they have to do these apps and games much better than those to attract the users to choose iPhone.

Do you want more games for WinMo , $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ dig deep.
Steve Jobs is not a billionaire because the iPhone has such a wide variety of apps and games that can be easily downloaded from XDA.

Anyway I read somewhere that WinMo is 3y behind iphone.
But catching up fast!!

rafalinx said:
Anyway I read somewhere that WinMo is 3y behind iphone.
But catching up fast!!
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Where did you read that? Macworld magazine.
Hey how come there are so many more games for my PS3 and the games are so much better than on my PC ...? Come on PC catch up...... my PC is at least 3 years behind my PS 3...

Yeah I've got so many great games and apps. Just purchased Bladesof Fury, which is basically a remake of Soul Calibur. Also a game called Gangstar which is like GTA. Gameloft make both, but all the games that have are great.

the iphone also has great hardware acceleration versus the windows phones, so games won't catch up until a significant hardware change accompanies a new mobile operating system.
the iphone was built from the ground up after seeing how everyone else did it for years. sure, MS could redesign everything to catch up, if not surpass the iphone, but what then? all the software that has been developed for resistive screens fall to the wayside and a HUGE user base is left behind.
i love windows, and couldn't even give android more than a day, but i easily accepts the facts that the iphone is one f'ing slick phone, but its the fanboy base that absolutely make me hate anything that is apple related. our OS isn't as smooth, never ever as pretty, and is definitely not as user friendly, so just take pride in the fact that it is a power-users phone and not well-built for the general masses.

thank you let me have a try

lol, wonna games - bye psp

rafalinx said:
Anyway I read somewhere that WinMo is 3y behind iphone.
But catching up fast!!
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Well... in terms of support for standards, no, but yeah, WinMo is old just like PalmOS was 2 or 3 years ago. That former died from not evolving for real, and I fear this is what awaits WinMo as soon as a capable mobile OS hits the shelves.

Ha! Because it is really "cool" to have half the screen obscured by your fingers or tilting your head with the phone... Pfffffff. Even a three year old can understand that you can't really play games without a hardware keyboard/d-pad. I can play touchscreen, accelerometer, hardware and d-pad games on WinMo phones, how many of those can iTards play? WinMo has thousands of games that can be played on many different devices, not on variations of the same one...
I have 100+ WinMo games on my Xperia, 70 java games, MorphGear with thousand of games (which lets me play every old console game out there) and a palm emulator. iPhail sucks big time in general, but it sucks even more when it comes to gaming.
Three years behind? HAHAHAHAHAAH!!! The iCrap is a decade behind...
Steve Job$ can GTFO with his "iPod Touch is the gretest portable gaming machine" - oh yeah? Have you heard of the PSP n00b... lmao. "Ohhhh looky looky we got copy, paste and CUT on the iPhone" - WOW can you imagine that? They have "cut" on their phones in 2009! Pathetic, overhyped devices with outdated hardware and software...

well i would prefer iphone games since i think theyre the best games ive ever played on mobile phones

AndroidFiend said:
well i would prefer iphone games since i think theyre the best games ive ever played on mobile phones
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That would be true if iPhail was the only device in the Universe. I can play Starcraft, Diablo and Age of Empires among hundreds of others. Wich one of those can the iPhail play again?

no games???? wth... try finalburn for wince and you got lots ang lots of arcade games to play...

iPhone has graphics.
orelsi said:
That would be true if iPhail was the only device in the Universe. I can play Starcraft, Diablo and Age of Empires among hundreds of others. Wich one of those can the iPhail play again?
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Windows Mobile does have some fantastic games, but the developers really don't give the damn about graphics. I'm far from an Apple fanboy - quite the opposite - but I do find it sad that while WinMos are capable of graphics as smooth as the iPhone's games (Binoteq / Astraware's MLT shows this), nearly every developer out there does not utilize the full potential of WinMo.
And many of the "official ports" to WinMo also have poor graphics - I prefer Arlanthir's "Touch The Music" to the official "Guitar Hero" game.

games
Check here there some fun game demos and games
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com

I used to own a HTC Touch HD2 a PSP and a DSlite....sold the lot and bought an Iphone 3gs, the games are in my opinion better than the PSP and DS, kind of a mix of the both, graphically not as good as the PSP, but better than the DS, controls not as good as the DS but better than the PSP, the accelerometer controls on the Iphone are the best on any device, my HTC just could not handle Need for speed, now I have the device that does it all, for me anyway.

clones
There are some clones of iphone games made for windows mobie like doodle jump and canabalt. Go here and check them out, they pretty simple but fun.
www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com

cheap
Look most windows mobile users are alergic to buying games . You cant expect perfect smooth OpenGLS games for free. Windows mobile users think 99 cents is too much for a game. Most windows mobile users dont care about developers or what it takes to make games. They want perfection but dont want to pay a dime. Thats why iphone wins.

Need help, what is the best quality games for htc touch pro?

What is the best quality(touch screen and g sesor) game on this phone game? Please give my a link

nobady knows?

resco snake is a pretty good one, along with the teeter game that comes with the phone
http://www.resco.net/games/windows/Snake.aspx

Resco bubbles, tiki towers, xtrakt, dragonball, spb brain evolution 2 are amazing well done & "finished" games.

i found meon in the marketplace. its pretty fun.

I like the teeter game which came with the phone

Marble Worlds 2 is also need accelerometer to play it. Pls try.

pdaMill Gamebox Classics and Gamebox Solitaire are two I couldn't live without.
Handmark Yahtzee is another I've installed for years now.
Resco SuDoku is one I enjoy every night before going to sleep.

Slider and Meon from the Marketplace are both pretty good.

mantilis said:
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"Quality" is an entirely subjective word. Could mean anything. Could mean, "highest resolution images," or, "fastest animation." It could mean something I'm not even thinking about, to you.
The games mentioned here are all fun. None of them are "best quality." There's no definitive way to say one of them is, in my opinion...
For touchscreen games, I love ICBM (Missile Command via touchscreen). Also a big fan of Pocket Uno (huge time-waster).
There are some fun g-sensor toys, like the Lightsaber, the Magic 8 Ball, and the GClippers (my personal favorite prank of the moment). There's a Galaga-like game called GInvaders which is merely okay (again, my opinion only). YMMV.
FYI, here's a great collection of games in a gigantic single cab file. (19MB FTW)

Check HERE and HERE and you will find some really good ones. You can google and find a lot of free ones.

Are those games free? I didnt know there were more games for the phone other than the snes and sega roms. Im trying to find more proper games that are free. In aus you cant get these games since none of the networks have games that are compatiable for this phone.

Archangel22 said:
Are those games free? I didnt know there were more games for the phone other than the snes and sega roms. Im trying to find more proper games that are free. In aus you cant get these games since none of the networks have games that are compatiable for this phone.
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All of the games I mentioned are free. None of them requires a network connection to play, and if you can't get to sites that offer these games as downloads, I'm surprised that you can get here, as well. Not sure what else you could be talking about, when you say "networks."

Found some free games here.

The best Gsensor game on the touch pro is need for speed undercover

mancsoulja said:
The best Gsensor game on the touch pro is need for speed undercover
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Best game period. Great graphics, amazing 3d engine with no lag almost PSP quality 3d, very very responsive gsensor controls, more than just 1 or 2 levels.
I really enjoyed cops and robbers too but it was just too short, I was so disappointed when I realized after finding all the diamonds there wasn't another quest/level set.
But those two for games that a console person would like.
Other than that ya Resco bubbles, and Resco Brain Games are also on my Fuze.
But man get NFS Undercover, amazing. I had my iphone fanboy friends mouth watering playing that. Though I believe they have similar games the resolution on the fuze really makes it look amazing.

Psx4droid

So I got the psx emulator even though the slide probably isn't the best device to be running the app on. Tried a few of my fave games and the larger roms (like GT2) are slightly laggier then the smaller ones (like Spyro 2). This is probably normal due to size.
I know this is the first release so its not a well pollished app but how much better do you folks think its going to get for us slide users? And is this the same experience the rest of you are having?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

took the app from 4shared.com amd game won't load. buying it tommorow tho, but it shouldnt run horrid thinking it might run smooth actually, not a fan of how you have to get the roms but hey it ps1 on the go right?
Update: Looks like my Bios was the issue, but works fine now. Games are pretty laggy tried overclocking but not sure it worked out to well, need to try something else. only tried spyro playable but not normal game play like you'd want. Wish we had hummingbird in this! *drools over keyboard* If FF7-9 work good enough for me then. but maybe in the future once its more polished it could become better but playing fighter games or very actiony games maybe not "amazing". Price you must pay for owning a mid-range device.

the games are wayyyy too laggy for slide imho. i just stick with the good ol snes emulator.

I think its the emulator that needs some work because I have heard it runs crappy on the Evo too, but for a work in progress you have to admit that its pretty impressive to be able to load a PSX game onto your phone. I have tried a bunch of different ROMs and so far the only one that is playable is Resident Evil Directors Cut.

I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
Also, Hello!

SefEXE said:
I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
Also, Hello!
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Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.

Joe333x said:
Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.
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Ah crud. Well I'll probably be trying more things to see what is great. I wasn't really too excited about RE2 anyways. I never really had a PSX, so I didn't play a lot of these games. Of course I could just do it on the PC now, but... well, I do enjoy the slide.

About halfway through disk one of Final Fantasy 7. The game runs perfect on Fenix 1.8 OCed to 844mhz. Zero lag. The only issue is the sound but I usually play it in public places anyway so it's not a deal breaker for me. Even bust out the WiiRemote for a controller sometimes at home