Related
I recently got a G1, and it has the old firmware(v1.1)
heres what it says on settings->about phone:
Model Number
T-Mobile G1
Firmware version
1.1
Baseband version
65.505.20.17H_2.22.19.23
Kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] #1
Build Number
kila-user 1.1 PLAT-RC33 126986
ota-rel-keys,release-keys
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Questions
1.can I update to cupcake without having to setup my phone?(i dont have data plan)
2.Whenever I try to download something on the market, it just says 'starting download' and never starts
3.Can I develop apps with the current android sdk that will work on firmware 1.1 AND 1.5?
I do not have a data plan, and I had to go to a T-Mobile store and fight with the people there until they finally let me use a SIM card to set it up...and I do NOT want to go through that again
also, I'm a C++ programmer with 3 years experience, but no experience at all in Java...so will it be hard, or easy to start developing apps for android?
PLEASE help me with this, even if you can only answer one of the questions it will be GREATLY appreciated since this phone is more complicated than a rubiks cube!
grumpymonkey said:
I recently got a G1, and it has the old firmware(v1.1)
heres what it says on settings->about phone:
Questions
1.can I update to cupcake without having to setup my phone?(i dont have data plan)
2.Whenever I try to download something on the market, it just says 'starting download' and never starts
3.Can I develop apps with the current android sdk that will work on firmware 1.1 AND 1.5?
I do not have a data plan, and I had to go to a T-Mobile store and fight with the people there until they finally let me use a SIM card to set it up...and I do NOT want to go through that again
also, I'm a C++ programmer with 3 years experience, but no experience at all in Java...so will it be hard, or easy to start developing apps for android?
PLEASE help me with this, even if you can only answer one of the questions it will be GREATLY appreciated since this phone is more complicated than a rubiks cube!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you can update it and it won't ask for a re-avtivation, dun worry buddy !
The market stuff is crazy sometimes ! Just reboot the phone, and everything will be ok ( make sure your wifi connection is strong enough )
Since I am only a highschool's senior, I can't answer the last question ! Sorry
When you start a project using eclipse with the SDK installed correctly it will ask you 1.1, 1.5, or API.
Search the forums about activating without a dataplan there are instructions on how to do it.
You need the current sdk for cupcake, there is also a ndk for making native c apps too now, so hope you make something good
thanks for the replies.
I rebooted the phone and the downloads worked thx
do you know how to install the cupcake update? I went to setting and system updates, but it said my phone was up-to-date
I am only a highschool's senior
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
..ima freshman lol
Since you are on a modded rom, you cannot receive updates, pick out a new rom and go into recovery and flash it, since I am going to assume you are on an old recovery, you are gonna have to rename it to update.zip and put it on the root of your sd
grumpymonkey said:
thanks for the replies.
I rebooted the phone and the downloads worked thx
do you know how to install the cupcake update? I went to setting and system updates, but it said my phone was up-to-date
..ima freshman lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can manually install the update using the threads here, or at t-mobile.com/forums ( go the development section ). The update feature of the phone sucks badly, don't trust it
btw, u make me feel old (
I found on google that if you place update.zip on your phone and boot by pressing home+power, you can update it like that, but will that make me have to setup my phone again? I dont have a data plan, so i'll just stay with 1.1 if I have to
I haven't really started with android development yet, but I've given it a look over. I'm coming from c#.net and most of the syntax is the same, as they are both have roots in C you shouldn't have a problem there. So it's mostly just learning the platform and it's library. .net is managed though like android.
Eclipse isn't really in the same league as Visual Studio though.
grumpymonkey said:
I found on google that if you place update.zip on your phone and boot by pressing home+power, you can update it like that, but will that make me have to setup my phone again? I dont have a data plan, so i'll just stay with 1.1 if I have to
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you flash a rom that is based on the adp phone (cyanogen's comes to mind)
you can skip singing into your google account until you have wifi set up.
so if i just do the update.zip trick with the cyanogen thing I wont have to sign in with google at all??!?!
grumpymonkey said:
so if i just do the update.zip trick with the cyanogen thing I wont have to sign in with google at all??!?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes no signing into google, but you won't be able to use the market.
so whats the point of it if I cant download anything? or is there another way to get market apps? cause i'd like to have stuff like shazam, ringdroid, and all that cool stuff
grumpymonkey said:
so whats the point of it if I cant download anything? or is there another way to get market apps? cause i'd like to have stuff like shazam, ringdroid, and all that cool stuff
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, not until you sign in to your Google Account using Wifi
really?..I want to try it, but I'm scared to do it since I JUST fixed it today, and if i get stuck at the setup screen again I'm screwed! TT_TT
I'll flip a coin..
grumpymonkey said:
really?..I want to try it, but I'm scared to do it since I JUST fixed it today
I'll flip a coin..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
99% sure about this, I've been flashing ROMs, Radio and stuffs regarding my G1 for a while. At first it was kinda scared indeed, but as long as you get through the first time, the left is as easy as eating an apple pie . Ask me and I will answer if I can
all you do is
put the update.zip on the root of your sdcard (i.e. no folders)
power down your phone and boot into recovery with home and power
(optional but may be required if your phone doesn't boot all the way up.)
wipe your phone.
flash the rom
reboot and wait for phone to boot up
choose to skip signing into google
set up your wifi
open the market and you can sign into google on wifi and be able to download apps.
OMG IT WORKED! thanks to all of you
hopefully it wont crash in the future!
grumpymonkey said:
OMG IT WORKED! thanks to all of you
hopefully it wont crash in the future!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no problem and if i just went home apparently i could tell you you're welcome in person lol
I used to have a g1 w/ the cupcake update working perfectly fine.
Then one day I decided to do install the Hero ROM...
I just want to get my g1 to factory again.. i can't stand the laggy hero rom... however unfortunately I wiped the phone and tried to do a few different things but now my phone starts up and just keeps repeating the HERO startup... somebody pleaseeee help me thank you!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350
Flash another ROM over Hero, like the Cyanogen, Rogers, or JesusFreke ones.
Unless you did a Nandroid backup or some other method of backup prior to flashing Hero, your previous settings, app preferences and data, and stuff of the like are gone. If you have Apps2SD, the apps themselves should still be there. Contacts, Calendar, etc. are saved in Google usually.
Also, please move this to Dream Q&A.
i dont use apps2sd and i dont care about saving anything... i have all my contacts backed up on google... so i just want to start fresh
jubeh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you... I will be testing this method as soon as i get back home this afternoon
bonzb6ub9 said:
thank you... I will be testing this method as soon as i get back home this afternoon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow... Use search, post in the right forum, and umroot now! Don't know how? SEARCH
ThR1LL said:
Wow... Use search, post in the right forum, and umroot now! Don't know how? SEARCH
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wise words of wisdom.
thanks everyone
solved!!!!
You lost root when you rolled back to rc 29. You'll need to redo the process.
Yep just like he said. When you reload RC29 you lose root.
Yes I know I lost root not worried about that. My phone will not let me install in apk. From the market or the internet. I can down load them but not install them
any ideas
let me clear stuff up. i know i lost root im not trying to flash anything to my phone. ( i have rooted 3 different g1s several times and a couple of different ways i have good idea how this works i think)
i cant install any application on my phone!
i am getting a installation unsuccessful error with all .apks on rc 29.
also this mean i can not get root back do the fact i cant telnet or run any third party app.
so my phone i stuck in original stock hell.
jmon777 said:
let me clear stuff up. i know i lost root im not trying to flash anything to my phone. ( i have rooted 3 different g1s several times and a couple of different ways i have good idea how this works i think)
i cant install any application on my phone!
i am getting a installation unsuccessful error with all .apks on rc 29.
also this mean i can not get root back do the fact i cant telnet or run any third party app.
so my phone i stuck in original stock hell.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
have you tried re-doing the DREAIMG.nbh
i hope you are not stuck in stock hell
david1171 said:
have you tried re-doing the DREAIMG.nbh
i hope you are not stuck in stock hell
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah i did 3 or 4 times. i tried new down load no luck still. what the heck is this? i am stumped!!!!
jmon777 said:
yeah i did 3 or 4 times. im going to try a a new one and see if that helps maybe it some how got corrupted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
man i really hope that is it. stock is so sad
david1171 said:
man i really hope that is it. stock is so sad
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no luck is there an way to flash a newer rom to the phone without root?
jmon777 said:
no luck is there an way to flash a newer rom to the phone without root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
unasari1 (i think that is his name) has the ota cupcake rom in his sig uploaded to media fire. download it and flash it, then use one click root to flash the recovery and flash your custom rom from it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563882 he has a post in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050 my one click root guide (though i know you are smart enough to do it easily but it has a link to get the recovery flasher)
david1171 said:
unasari1 (i think that is his name) has the ota cupcake rom in his sig uploaded to media fire. download it and flash it, then use one click root to flash the recovery and flash your custom rom from it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563882 he has a post in this thead
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok cool thats what i was trying to do but could not find it on Google. man they are pissing me off lately
jmon777 said:
ok cool thats what i was trying to do but could not find it on Google. man they are pissing me off lately
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i feel your pain. i tried to find it too and it was gone from all of their code pages. also i put my one click root guide up so you can get the recovery flasher.
i cant find that user in the user search.
jmon777 said:
i cant find that user in the user search.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i put a link to a thread he posted in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1107735 here is his user profile
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
david1171 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1107735 here is his user profile
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry thought you were providing a link to one click root thread sorry its been a long night.
ok i think i had a swap partition still on my sd card. and when i flashed back it some how read that as internal memory so i used another card. and it worked like magic. lol gosh im dumb!!! if you ever need anything feel free to ask me i would give some money but im broke college kid. and im about to test and see if get the same results and if i do i would like the word out. because i think one click root app will be short lived (which kind of sucks).
jubeh said:
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes every app i tried to install failed including astro which i knew last week was working. and even so i would not get a force close instead of failure to install?
jubeh said:
The problem is that rc29 is based on Android 1.0 and currently the telnet app in the market is made for Android 1.5... that's why that, or any other of your 1.5 apps, fail to install.
Try to find a copy fo the 1.0 release of telnetd and try again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true, I can drop to RC29 and download and install telnet.
i dont have a data plan now so i cant activate the phone and i cant use adb cause its not working on win7 for me..is there anyway i can just flash spl and radio and skip the recovery image? I tried someones sim but it just says error when i try to register.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.. or Confirm this is correct. but..
If you're on an official rom you're out of luck, but if you can update to an ADP rom no login will be required. It's not a SPL or radio issue, purely rom based.
sonikamd said:
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.. or Confirm this is correct. but..
If you're on an official rom you're out of luck, but your can always update to an ADP rom. No login required on those. It's not a SPL or radio issue, purely rom based.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im not sure wat ADP is..but im trying to root and i followed the guide for one click root from unlockr, is there anyway for me to use a ADP rom?
What phone are you using on what network? Was the other person's sim card on the same network? did they have an android data plan?
ADP means Android Developer Phone.
sonikamd said:
What phone are you using on what network? Was the other person's sim card on the same network? did they have an android data plan?
ADP means Android Developer Phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh both sims were tmobile US, and the other phone was a moto zn5 so it wasnt a g1 plan.
So I'm *assuming* you're on a G1. You basically have three choices, either goto a t-mobile store and beg one of their techs to let ya use their data to register, find someone else with a g1+data and ask to use their sim card or go adp.
The downside of going with an adp rom is you'll loose the t-mobile branded stuff like tmo ringtones, the myfaves app, ?youtube? (not sure on this one, you should do some reading first or hope someone else chips in).
If you really need your phone now, and are able to install custom roms the adp version of donut can be found --here-- Note: I run the official roms so am not too well versed in ADP vs. AOSP+ADP but it looks like you may actually want the latter(AOSP+ADP)
sonikamd said:
So I'm *assuming* you're on a G1. You basically have three choices, either goto a t-mobile store and beg one of their techs to let ya use their data to register, find someone else with a g1+data and ask to use their sim card or go adp.
The downside of going with an adp rom is you'll loose the t-mobile branded stuff like tmo ringtones, the myfaves app, ?youtube? (not sure on this one, you should do some reading first or hope someone else chips in).
If you really need your phone now, and are able to install custom roms the adp version of donut can be found --here-- Note: I run the official roms so am not too well versed in ADP vs. AOSP+ADP but it looks like you may actually want the latter(AOSP+ADP)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i dont have root i just installed dreaimg.nbh then flashed cupcake via home+end the press alt+l then alt+s.So i dont have any custom recovery images on my g1.
what guide did you follow? I'm confused, i thought the dreaimg.nbh was part of the rooting/testkey part...
sonikamd said:
what guide did you follow? I'm confused, i thought the dreaimg.nbh was part of the rooting/testkey part...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this first:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/07/05/how-to-unroot-your-t-mobile-g1/
im up to this but at setup screen:
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-root-the-mytouch-3g-or-g1-in-one-click/
can i rename the recovery image to update.zip the load it in recovery mode?
No, no renaming the recovery image.
Ok, so let me get this straight. You unrooted a rooted phone, to install the official cupcake so you could "one touch" root it which installs a custom recovery image @ the same time?
this is starting to hurt my head...
sonikamd said:
No, no renaming the recovery image.
Ok, so let me get this straight. You unrooted a rooted phone, to install the official cupcake so you could "one touch" root it which installs a custom recovery image @ the same time?
this is starting to hurt my head...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i never rooted before i was just following the instructions because i had 1.6/donut on my phone.all i wanted to do was install a hero rom and the one click is the shortest way i knew.
Gotcha, headaches gone but unfortunately it looks like your stuck. It appears this process *assumes* you have a data connection(for the login process) and without this most guides out there are going to be useless, especially at this point.
I'd say add data for a month or w/e then remove it if you must once done doing what you're doin... or go back to looking for someone with data that can help ya get logged in. Bout the only ways out I can forsee atm.. Wish I could be more help...
sonikamd said:
Gotcha, headaches gone but unfortunately it looks like your stuck. It appears this process *assumes* you have a data connection(for the login process) and without this most guides out there are going to be useless, especially at this point.
I'd say add data for a month or w/e then remove it if you must once done doing what you're doin... or go back to looking for someone with data that can help ya get logged in. Bout the only ways out I can forsee atm.. Wish I could be more help...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for the help
I was gonna get flex-pay at Tmo since i hate being tied down to contracts and it can have a g1 data plan added.
alright, cool. Ya, i just got it from someone else wiser than I that without data you've got a long road ahead of ya getting your phone back up n running.
You can always do it the old-fashioned way... Just downgrade to RC29, login with WiFi. Then do the root process that way. Only takes 15min at most.
h.nocturna said:
You can always do it the old-fashioned way... Just downgrade to RC29, login with WiFi. Then do the root process that way. Only takes 15min at most.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i cant use wifi since icant get in to settings since im at setup screen
Ace42 said:
i cant use wifi since icant get in to settings since im at setup screen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's a way to bypass it with rooted ROMs, of which RC29 is one. You can. There's a whole guide on how to do it.
Voicemail not working after flashing to new ROM, tried 3 roms none of them r giving me voicemail. LIQUIDSENSE 2.1, ALOYSIOUS 2.1, NFX hero 2.2, whats the problem. I get a message in tool bar that cant be cleared "A mandatory update is available", but when i try to upgrade i get "General failure. Please try again at a later time"
What to do any suggestions. Ive been hearing bout using google voice, but im kinda lost on that.
PLZ SOMEBODY HELP
cperkins0 said:
Voicemail not working after flashing to new ROM, tried 3 roms none of them r giving me voicemail. LIQUIDSENSE 2.1, ALOYSIOUS 2.1, NFX hero 2.2, whats the problem. I get a message in tool bar that cant be cleared "A mandatory update is available", but when i try to upgrade i get "General failure. Please try again at a later time"
What to do any suggestions. Ive been hearing bout using google voice, but im kinda lost on that.
PLZ SOMEBODY HELP
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
go back to stock 2.1 update the app from there, then backup the .apk (astro file explorer has a tool that allows you to do this) then install it in the other builds
which file is it in? I can't find it
its called com.core.apk or something like that im not sure where it hangs out
cmyasika1 said:
which file is it in? I can't find it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thoughtlesskyle said:
its called com.core.apk or something like that im not sure where it hangs out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, it's something like that in system/app
sprint_core.apk in /system/app there may be an odex. i always rm NameOfApp.*
if you delete the apk it may cause problems(maybe. didnt for me but has for others). you also wont be notified of vm's. youll have to call to check. on a 2.1 rom, that is. thats how it worked for me anyway.
personally, my vm isnt working on my new device. like it never set itself up correctly. if anyone should happen to have a link to some instructions to set this up, that would be fantastic. I hate calling the silly people at sprint. thank you
bump this. need help.
vrundmc said:
bump this. need help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you try flashing the version in my sig?
theimpaler747 said:
Did you try flashing the version in my sig?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i havent tried that as im having annoying problems with my vvm on my device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855545
guess ill try to use this one here.
tailsthecat3 said:
i havent tried that as im having annoying problems with my vvm on my device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855545
guess ill try to use this one here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try flashing my version, let me know how it goes!
theimpaler747 said:
Did you try flashing the version in my sig?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flashed your file...same issue...delay in setting up voicemail... Flashed and restarted. Even tried rebooting. No go. My activation message is stuck in the undelivered box.
theimpaler747 said:
Try flashing my version, let me know how it goes!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it didnt work. i removed the original, flashed yours. still have the undelivered message, the activation message. nothing is working, i cant figure it out. and when i called sprint, they reset my vm, so i lost messages and had to set up everything again...
FYI to Impaler, your VVM version in your sig works for those in areas where an official update has not rolled through yet.
Don't know if you are aware, but Sprint recently updated the VVM software to version T.5.1.0.48 (here in TX it was updated the last week of October). Note that Sprint CSR will not be able to help you reset it unless you are on a Sense ROM. Period.
Two options to fix on your non-Sense ROM... there is an updated .apk floating around on these boards (might need to PM someone for it). Get it and install via your file manager.
Or...
Other way is to nandroid your current ROM, then flash a Sense ROM like Fresh's most current. Then, update your PRL and Profile, then go into the VVM and press Menu and update Sprint VVM.
Then, either try to nandroid back to your original ROM and check to see if that does it (haven't tried that, but it might work)... or else... yes, you will need to pull the updated com.coremobility.app.vnotes from the Sense ROM and install the pulled .apk into your new ROM.
Hope this helps.
mr. implaler, I have used yours for the last weeks successfully, so thank you. I just ran into the same problem with the mandatory upgrade, and it is an update i did before I rooted my phone. the VM did work this morning on MUIU but i loaded MYN and that is when my issue started.
Hope someone can firgure it out
thanks again implaler
mine just actually updated and works and phone didn't unroot
vrundmc said:
Flashed your file...same issue...delay in setting up voicemail... Flashed and restarted. Even tried rebooting. No go. My activation message is stuck in the undelivered box.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is my solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855545
I had 9016 in the blocked texts list. Hope this helps you.
Excellent...let me add to this...
I suppose using variations of ROMS that don't include VVM and block 9016 caused this issue.
You can unblock 9016 by going to your account online, under "My Devices," then "My Preferences." Scroll down to the "Limits and permissions" section. You will see the "Block Texts" link there.
vrundmc said:
Flashed your file...same issue...delay in setting up voicemail... Flashed and restarted. Even tried rebooting. No go. My activation message is stuck in the undelivered box.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
tailsthecat3 said:
it didnt work. i removed the original, flashed yours. still have the undelivered message, the activation message. nothing is working, i cant figure it out. and when i called sprint, they reset my vm, so i lost messages and had to set up everything again...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm... I still can't tell if this is a Sprint or a root issue....
alaman68 said:
mr. implaler, I have used yours for the last weeks successfully, so thank you. I just ran into the same problem with the mandatory upgrade, and it is an update i did before I rooted my phone. the VM did work this morning on MUIU but i loaded MYN and that is when my issue started.
Hope someone can firgure it out
thanks again implaler
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem, glad it worked well for you
jedijackie said:
FYI to Impaler, your VVM version in your sig works for those in areas where an official update has not rolled through yet.
Don't know if you are aware, but Sprint recently updated the VVM software to version T.5.1.0.48 (here in TX it was updated the last week of October). Note that Sprint CSR will not be able to help you reset it unless you are on a Sense ROM. Period.
Two options to fix on your non-Sense ROM... there is an updated .apk floating around on these boards (might need to PM someone for it). Get it and install via your file manager.
Or...
Other way is to nandroid your current ROM, then flash a Sense ROM like Fresh's most current. Then, update your PRL and Profile, then go into the VVM and press Menu and update Sprint VVM.
Then, either try to nandroid back to your original ROM and check to see if that does it (haven't tried that, but it might work)... or else... yes, you will need to pull the updated com.coremobility.app.vnotes from the Sense ROM and install the pulled .apk into your new ROM.
Hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok cool, well glad it worked for a few people