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Hello all. This phone mainly got my attention because i read up that it can run android OS.
I am currently using a tmobile g1. the only reason i'm giving it up because tmobile won't let me use my cheap data plan with it. They want me to upgrade to an expensive one. (I had t-zones unlimited working on iphone for awhile)
So i decided to look into an at&t phone and hope that it can be unlocked and i can set up my t-zones internet on it as i did on the iphone (also from at&t)
Here are my questions:
1) Is it easy to unlock the htc tilt? Or do i get it unlocked from someone else?
2) Once loaded, does Android os have all its features on the HTC tilt?
3) Will I be able to set up EDGE with tmobile WHILE on android? (and will it work? lol)
Thanks everyone, i really appreciate ur help guys
jadi929 said:
Hello all. This phone mainly got my attention because i read up that it can run android OS.
I am currently using a tmobile g1. the only reason i'm giving it up because tmobile won't let me use my cheap data plan with it. They want me to upgrade to an expensive one. (I had t-zones unlimited working on iphone for awhile)
So i decided to look into an at&t phone and hope that it can be unlocked and i can set up my t-zones internet on it as i did on the iphone (also from at&t)
Here are my questions:
1) Is it easy to unlock the htc tilt? Or do i get it unlocked from someone else?
2) Once loaded, does Android os have all its features on the HTC tilt?
3) Will I be able to set up EDGE with tmobile WHILE on android? (and will it work? lol)
Thanks everyone, i really appreciate ur help guys
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Wow.
This is so silly on so many levels, but the overriding thing is this.. Android on the Tilt is a cute hack. No more than that. You gotta boot WM first, then Android. You have to kludge around to get voice and/or data to work in Android. It's not as stable as Android is natively. Some of the hardware doesn't work....
just.. no...
Yes, here's what I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/port_status, the camera is the only piece of hardware that isn't working at all, most others have partial or full capability. Wi-Fi is still experimental, and GPS is kind of tempermental.
Yes, once SIM unlocked, you should be able to set up and use APN's through config.txt/startup.txt, and Android itself.
However, keep in mind that Android is still not fully functional or stable, and you must boot Windows Mobile in order to run the Android bootloader. Android is still kind of beta, and may stay that way for a while. I don't currently think I could run Android full time on my device without any issues. So that's some stuff you need to think about before you buy a Kaiser just for running Android. In your situation, I personally wouldn't.
Dave
Yes, it is easy to unlock...
And jsut stick with WM, it just works better right now
khaytsus said:
Wow.
This is so silly on so many levels, but the overriding thing is this.. Android on the Tilt is a cute hack. No more than that. You gotta boot WM first, then Android. You have to kludge around to get voice and/or data to work in Android. It's not as stable as Android is natively. Some of the hardware doesn't work....
just.. no...
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I thought your response to his question was pretty silly..its a hack like u said so of course it isnt going to work with flying colors just yet..though im sure it's much better than you picture in your head. There even more advantages of booting from SD card we can run the hero rom nearly as much as hero itself. Plus more androids phone will support our qvga screen in the future.
Well i dont really like winmobile, maybe cuz i'v never really used it. i always thought it was for business ppl. anyway, thanks for ur help. can anyone recommend another phone?
jadi929 said:
Well i dont really like winmobile, maybe cuz i'v never really used it. i always thought it was for business ppl. anyway, thanks for ur help. can anyone recommend another phone?
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Dude, at some point you are going to have to bite the bullet, so to speak. With the increased capabilities of the phones to download greater amouts of info faster and faster, the carrier companies are going to charge or structure their data packages according to the amount of data you access as opposed to the time you spend " online ".
If you like android , then you need to stick with a phone the runs it natively, like your G1. To want to get rid of your G1, to buy a non android phone and then hack android on to it, is kind of " silly " despite what ajclai08 says and how " cool " it is to run Android on a phone that is not meant to run it.
You can spend the next month trying to fudge the phone you want with the OS you want , with a data package that violates your carrier's TOS, but in the end it " is " going to cost you and why be stuck with a phone and OS that you are unhappy with.
Does anyone know if there is a leak of the new MotoBlur UI or rom? or if it's even possible to port to the G1? ... I know it was just annouced but there isn't a section for it and i wouldn't mind having some of the widgets and or features that have already been shown. Does anyone have any additional info on this besides what's already been released my motorola today?
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Does anyone know if there is a leak of the new MotoBlur UI or rom? or if it's even possible to port to the G1? ... I know it was just annouced but there isn't a section for it and i wouldn't mind having some of the widgets and or features that have already been shown. Does anyone have any additional info on this besides what's already been released my motorola today?
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This belongs in the Q&A section!!!
Well... it was JUST announced, so... we will have to wait.
prettyboy85712 said:
This belongs in the Q&A section!!!
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i figured it would work in either section but it is development based b/c it is a new UI that hasn't been seen ... I was more or less tryin to spark interest into this.
Just in case someone didn't know, here some info http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/10/live-from-motorolas-android-announcement-at-mobilize-09/
Looks awesome, but i think the device only has the qualcomm ~550MHz cpu..
Waiting for the Motorola Sholes with Snapdragon, whoooo
As long as it runs on the Qualcomm architecture that the Dream/Magic/Hero etc. run on, there's no reason why it could not be ported to the Dream. Once it comes out, that is.
this will probably take months before its leaked and weeks before its usable
ANY videos?
sasha101 said:
this will probably take months before its leaked and weeks before its usable
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Hero STILL doesn't have bluetooth, based on past results, it's very very hard to port this stuff over in a usable manner. The devs are the best, but if we still don't have Hero working, what are the odds of us getting this one anytime soon?
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Hero STILL doesn't have bluetooth, based on past results, it's very very hard to port this stuff over in a usable manner. The devs are the best, but if we still don't have Hero working, what are the odds of us getting this one anytime soon?
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I'd say there's a high chance of getting a full working version of "MOTOBLUR" on the G1 before a working version of Sense UI.
Of course nobody can comment before the phone/rom is released but at first glance it doesn't look like the core of android has been edited much, if at all. It's simply the stock android home screen with 2 extra shortcuts at the bottom and some new widgets.
Even the calendar app has remained the same.
http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/GenericRegular.aspx?PAsset=Pro_Pro_MotoCliqLaunch&WT.mc_id=637m3
go to this page and click on the MotoBlur Demo link on the right hand side to get
a full demo of the UI.
I like the fact that your "inbox" contains messages/gmails/fbook messages all in one list.
And it has the same screen res and 528mhz processor as the g1 so it shouldn't be too much work to get it on there. This is way more exciting than hero, cuz the hero roms are so slow
dweller88 said:
http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/GenericRegular.aspx?PAsset=Pro_Pro_MotoCliqLaunch&WT.mc_id=637m3
go to this page and click on the MotoBlur Demo link on the right hand side to get
a full demo of the UI.
I like the fact that your "inbox" contains messages/gmails/fbook messages all in one list.
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agreed i love the universal inbox as well as the Happenings screen/widget. even if that was all we got, i would be happy lol
what people need to realize is that its not about what official rom we want.. its what from each rom we want.. cause with the way devs keep taking things from all the new roms and putting into current ones.. all we need is to take the best from each and make one bomb rom..lol
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Hero STILL doesn't have bluetooth, based on past results, it's very very hard to port this stuff over in a usable manner. The devs are the best, but if we still don't have Hero working, what are the odds of us getting this one anytime soon?
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devs havent got bluetooth to work cuz the hero source code is closed source. if motorola keeps the source code for the blur UI open, then devs have
all around access to not only port the build but framework, bluetooth, led's,etc.
i hope we get a system dump soon this UI looks real good.. i dont like all the colors but im sure manups work'll take care of all that
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this will probably take months before its leaked and weeks before its usable
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nah not with the rom devs here kid. i give em three days tops!
cyan might be getting a system dump sometime very soon.
Don't play with my emotions jc....lol. I'm hoping we can get this ported because all I really want from Hero is the HTC Music (got it) and the integrated social apps. This would be gold and for cyan to work his magic...
so cool
moto is back
Okay, I am very new to this rom and root and mod your phone thing and tried to do so the other night, What I actually wanted was youtube user EmoGamer's version of the Hero 2.0.1 on his G1, like really bad! Oh well, anyways after totally messing my phone up from not knowing what I was doing, I managed to install the factory state back to the phone. Android 1.0! Now to get my phone back to Donut 1.6, I need 1.5
So does anyone know where I can get 1.5? like the real cupcake update, not some bootleg or mod rom, I mean the actual Cupcake update?
Please and thanks everyone.
Bootleg rom?
Wow that makes no sense...
I recc you do some reading before jumpiing the gun, you dont want to have a paper weight for the new year...
Sometime in the next couple days you will be prompted to update your phone, this will take you to the most recent official update... just keep a wifi, or other date connection, going and it will download it on it's own.
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Sometime in the next couple days you will be prompted to update your phone, this will take you to the most recent official update... just keep a wifi, or other date connection, going and it will download it on it's own.
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Of 2.0?
I know 1.6 will get sent to him but he wants to have root i think.
I think he just wants to go back to stock and not mess around with it at the moment.
"Now to get my phone back to Donut 1.6, I need 1.5"
And I wish it was 2.0 and I had some insider track on it... I think we will see that officially by January 20th, don't ask why I say that date, just seems like a good one to pull out of the hat.
Thanks for the info man I really appreciate all of it.
So I'm going to try my hand at rooting the newest Sprint release, and I had an idea:
If I install one of our stock rooted roms, use titanium to get all of my apps and such back, couldnt i then just update ota and keep my stuff?
In theory, this would work, but then again theory isn't always the best thing to go by.
Thanks in advanced for any and all help.
Not sure what you are trying to do. But, why would you want the update? Anything specific in the update that makes you go back after rooting?
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Not sure what you are trying to do. But, why would you want the update? Anything specific in the update that makes you go back after rooting?
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Giving Sprint another shot to amaze me. Supposed to be some changes in it so maybe it will be worth staying stock with root.
And I'm trying to figure out if I update OTA from a rooted stock rom to the newest release, will it delete my apps and data or just break root and such?
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Giving Sprint another shot to amaze me. Supposed to be some changes in it so maybe it will be worth staying stock with root.
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Hmm... but, if you are on 2.2, I don't think anything 2.1 would amaze you... .
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And I'm trying to figure out if I update OTA from a rooted stock rom to the newest release, will it delete my apps and data or just break root and such?
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Unless it is a major update, usually the apps are not deleted. However, based on whatever I have read so far, you are sure to lose root. Again, I have not tried it... but, more often than not that's why they send out these releases.
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Hmm... but, if you are on 2.2, I don't think anything 2.1 would amaze you... .
Unless it is a major update, usually the apps are not deleted. However, based on whatever I have read so far, you are sure to lose root. Again, I have not tried it... but, more often than not that's why they send out these releases.
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Instead of the official I found NFX's rooted version. 10 minutes on that and I was about to break that slow being that I used to love. I was thoroughly unimpressed with Sprint.
How is it we have Devs who can port froyo and such, make them run stupid fast and a hell of a lot smoother than Sprint's team? Seriously some of our guys should be applying cause they could easily make sprint better.
mdhscanes24 said:
Instead of the official I found NFX's rooted version. 10 minutes on that and I was about to break that slow being that I used to love. I was thoroughly unimpressed with Sprint.
How is it we have Devs who can port froyo and such, make them run stupid fast and a hell of a lot smoother than Sprint's team? Seriously some of our guys should be applying cause they could easily make sprint better.
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Yeah... well, you know, that's just the way it is
Its not so much the sprint software as it is them putting the sense software on a phone that couldnt handle it. Sense runs great on the EVO, bigger processor and more RAM
cordell12 said:
Its not so much the sprint software as it is them putting the sense software on a phone that couldnt handle it. Sense runs great on the EVO, bigger processor and more RAM
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Actually, even on an EVO, sense isn't all that fast/great IMO
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Its not so much the sprint software as it is them putting the sense software on a phone that couldnt handle it. Sense runs great on the EVO, bigger processor and more RAM
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I kind of disagree with that statement. If it were Sense in itself, we wouldn't have such smooth running Sense roms here. IMO it is all due to sprint having to dip their hand into everything to do with the phone.
Anyways, to stay on topic, carrying apps over from a rooted rom, to an OTA update is still all hypothetical, with absolutely no proof of concept. If i had access to a more stable internet signal, I would throw my ideas to work, but this is not the case.
hi guys, do you think our beloved devices will get this update from MS???
noside_143 said:
hi guys, do you think our beloved devices will get this update from MS???
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According to MS the 7.8 update is for the current Windows Phones in the market and according to me the HD7 is a current gen phone too. so ummm.....yeah :silly:
backlashsid said:
According to MS the 7.8 update is for the current Windows Phones in the market and according to me the HD7 is a current gen phone too. so ummm.....yeah :silly:
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I hope so.. One can only hope.. I don't have an unlocked device.. So can't flash any custom roms.. And the phone was already in mango when i got it..
Just that the only phones that gaurantees this update are the lumia phones.. WTF..
noside_143 said:
I hope so.. One can only hope.. I don't have an unlocked device.. So can't flash any custom roms.. And the phone was already in mango when i got it..
Just that the only phones that gaurantees this update are the lumia phones.. WTF..
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There isnt any word on a guaranteed update. Sure it was shown in the developer summit a Lumia 900 running 7.8 which of course in a way means that the 900 is definitely getting an update to 7.8.
So till further announcement by HTC,T-Mobile or may be Microsoft themselves we cannot be sure yet as to when we will get the update and how will we get it.
I am waiting for the SDK of Windows Phone 8 which is due probably this summer. Hopefully that build might have a fully functional working 7.8 which ROM devs can extract. I am on a custom ROM anyways.
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There isnt any word on a guaranteed update. Sure it was shown in the developer summit a Lumia 900 running 7.8 which of course in a way means that the 900 is definitely getting an update to 7.8.
So till further announcement by HTC,T-Mobile or may be Microsoft themselves we cannot be sure yet as to when we will get the update and how will we get it.
I am waiting for the SDK of Windows Phone 8 which is due probably this summer. Hopefully that build might have a fully functional working 7.8 which ROM devs can extract. I am on a custom ROM anyways.
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good for you sir... that you have custom rom for your hd7... i guess i'll have to hold on for a little while longer before i basically let go of my hd7...
noside_143 said:
good for you sir... that you have custom rom for your hd7... i guess i'll have to hold on for a little while longer before i basically let go of my hd7...
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not necessarily !! flashing a custom ROM is really easy on the HD7 too. If you need any help flashing let me know.
backlashsid said:
not necessarily !! flashing a custom ROM is really easy on the HD7 too. If you need any help flashing let me know.
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i've been reading a couple of topics here about that... as what i've understand i have to downgrade something on my phone and you have to use the goldcard method... i'm not good with cables and soldering them together... so i don't think i'll be able to manage... and from where i am right now (PHILIPPINES)... it's an ANDROID/IOS infested place... most cellshops or cell technicians that do modds on phones... they only specialized on those O.S... so i just kept my phone official/mod free... i don't wanna risk having someone do something like that on my phone which they might end up breaking it... anyways the only thing that i would really love to do with my phone is accessing the storage using the USB CABLE... simply the idea of uploading my files to skydrive/dropbox/etc.. then downloading them again to my phone is stupid since i'm already beside my pc/laptop... got tons and tons of comics(cbr/cbz)/ebooks(epub/pdf) and files that i want to put on my phone but its just hassle because of how you have to do all of those...
if modding this phone won't involve hardware or opening the phone i believe i can manage... i mean i use to have an iphone and jailbreaking it doesn't need you to make your own cable just simply flashing a CFW or the like... and that goes the same with android...
anyways... simply the design and look of my HTC HD7 is awesome... i don't wanna let go of it... but now i'm TEMPTED to do that...
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good for you sir... that you have custom rom for your hd7... i guess i'll have to hold on for a little while longer before i basically let go of my hd7...
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this 7.8 update is for all devices that have more memory then the lower end phones. our hd7 have 512 ram and 16gm memory, we will be getting the update. stop worrying.
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i've been reading a couple of topics here about that... as what i've understand i have to downgrade something on my phone and you have to use the goldcard method... i'm not good with cables and soldering them together... so i don't think i'll be able to manage... and from where i am right now (PHILIPPINES)... it's an ANDROID/IOS infested place... most cellshops or cell technicians that do modds on phones... they only specialized on those O.S... so i just kept my phone official/mod free... i don't wanna risk having someone do something like that on my phone which they might end up breaking it... anyways the only thing that i would really love to do with my phone is accessing the storage using the USB CABLE... simply the idea of uploading my files to skydrive/dropbox/etc.. then downloading them again to my phone is stupid since i'm already beside my pc/laptop... got tons and tons of comics(cbr/cbz)/ebooks(epub/pdf) and files that i want to put on my phone but its just hassle because of how you have to do all of those...
if modding this phone won't involve hardware or opening the phone i believe i can manage... i mean i use to have an iphone and jailbreaking it doesn't need you to make your own cable just simply flashing a CFW or the like... and that goes the same with android...
anyways... simply the design and look of my HTC HD7 is awesome... i don't wanna let go of it... but now i'm TEMPTED to do that...
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Not to get off topic.... but Like backlashsid said, its a pretty easy process and it sounds more complicated than it really is. Plus you have tons of support here that are more then happy to help you through the process if you decide too! You might only need to do the Goldcard method/ Y cable if your spl is 5.xxx or higher and if you have a pre mango Zune backup you can do it that way with out the Y cable or if your spl is 4.xxx you don't have to use the Goldcardmethod either!
Back to the topic at hand... I believe we will get the 7.8 update as well, our devices are more than capable and suited to get it. For that matter we may even see some of the WP8 system on our devices, with some backwards compatibility we just might see a new home screen and some of the new apps that are coming to WP8. Probably not everything that will be available but possibly a chunk of it because it's suppose to run on duel core!
explisiv said:
this 7.8 update is for all devices that have more memory then the lower end phones. our hd7 have 512 ram and 16gm memory, we will be getting the update. stop worrying.
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1)HD7 has 576MB of RAM, not 512....
2)Nobody has ever managed to jailbreak most of the mango updated devices, so he should be worried since he cannot flash it...
however HD7 doesn't support win8 even custom roms?
Alexboooom said:
1)HD7 has 576MB of RAM, not 512....
2)Nobody has ever managed to jailbreak most of the mango updated devices, so he should be worried since he cannot flash it...
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Really?
All the custom ROMS are completely dev and interop unlocked... The HD7 is completely open.
The only "downgrade" is to the bootloader. and there is no soldering required... you can buy the cables and adapter pretty much anywhere to just plug together
my hd7 updated to tango calm down we all going to 7.8
explisiv said:
my hd7 updated to tango calm down we all going to 7.8
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yah.. just got the tango update myself the other day also...
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yah.. just got the tango update myself the other day also...
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How did you get it? it was pushed out or the on/off wifi switch method? notice anything noticeable improvements with it?
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How did you get it? it was pushed out or the on/off wifi switch method? notice anything noticeable improvements with it?
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I didn't do anything special... i just plugged my phone to my laptop then zune launched and informed me of an update...
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I didn't do anything special... i just plugged my phone to my laptop then zune launched and informed me of an update...
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Yup, even most of the customs roms are already updated with it... I've been running Deepshining custom rom, v7.7 - Tango 8779 for a week now! That right there tells you that development for our devices isn't going to stop just yet!
sad as it may be...
our phones were not optimized for extended usages, wordament isnt playing nice and overall my phone has been feeling really sluggish, and i have a 32gb class 10. I think htc is doing this on purpose smh, but im with tmobile and i refuse to use the htc radar or the knock off lumia 710 that pales in comparison of design.... I need 4.3 inch screen.... I really like windows but something is wrong with my phone.