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Clean ROM status -Update 3

OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
Because of the lack of bigstorage, we have a lot of unclaimed space.
Storage memory: 36.28MB (This means you can add your own programs without loosing this space.)
Program memory: 27.00MB when first turned on. 26.xx when it starts using parts of it for caching purposes. (28.xx with some tweaks that I will probably not setup in the final ROM because they will make certain things not work the way everyone else is used to.)
Updates:
Bugs found:
1. Notepad doesn't not launch or open in any way shape or form.
Bugs fixed:
1. The volume slider is acting as an up and down arrow instead of a volume slider. If anyone has any input on what controls this, I'd gladly appreciate the help. Also, tapping on the volume control does nothing.
And a little teaser... There's a little over 300+ packages on my next release of EasyBakeOven... which is why it's taking so long. I'm trying to weed out the useless ones, though.
Mental note: Check out the LGplugin to make it a package.
Disclaimer: Should you choose to flash the released ROM or any of its versions, released or otherwise, you are solely responsible for your equipment. I take no responsibility for any damage caused by this ROM nor by any negligence on your behalf while flashing said ROM. I will provide support to the best of my abilities only and ONLY if you have fully read the FAQ I will later provide, read this WHOLE thread AND the instructions, following them to a t. If I do not answer right away, please do not repeatedly ask me with countless PM's. This will not get me to leave my paying job faster and get me online to even SEE that you have a question. If I cannot answer the question, I will tell you. If it's posted here and I haven't responded for over a week, then post another message reminding me. I probably missed it. It is NOT ok to PM me asking me the same question that someone else has already gotten a response for. Read the whole thread. Other than that, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE ROM!!!

ivanmmj said:
OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
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this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..

Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.

trallala said:
Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.
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Thanks for the idea! I'll probably create a blank extROM and unlock the ROM from my ROM.

FZZF said:
this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..
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^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.

ivanmmj said:
^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.
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I was referring to the touchflo which I don't even use other then the scrolling feature, but there are some HTC apps that can be very useful and good looking I came a cross a post on here that has all of them http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533&highlight=random+acces
and this link has more apps (for Kaiser) most will work on the wing http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/

thanks your hard work for us,i am from china,and i did the english ROM+chinese language ,i canot wait your ROM out ,and test it.
if it possible ,i hope you may share your kitchen with me ,and i can use it for my english rom and chinese language support.and more chinese people would like it .
let more people use clean ROM
let us work on big storge,and more faster ROM.
and my MSN:[email protected]
for my poor english.

OK. The ROM is flying and it's basically ready for a release as I haven't found any more bugs, so I might do an Alpha release this weekend.

Coool, I can't wait to try it!!!

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hey to all of you out their looking for a clean rom for the wing. back in my day when I owened a wing I cam across a offical htc hearld wm6 rom the worked with the wings keyboard, if any ones interested I can post it up. you guys can prolly use it as a base to build off of aswell

Santino.. that's like the holy grail of T-mo Wing rom's... please post it.
Regards

sure thing...I had orginally thought that the comunnity was aware of it. ill post it up in the upgrade fourms soon as I get home around 7pm eastern

Oh this would be sooo damn nice, a clean rom! And i sooo hope you get Bigstorage working!

Help with crooked rom need a good stable wm6.5 rom

hey guys my names marc and im pretty much completely new to flashing cooked roms. ive flash oem roms on my tilt before but when it comes to trying to find a good crooked rom or even really just how to do it correctly without bricking my phone im at a lost. Reading all the stuff is starting to make it highly confusing lol. Im really just trying to find a good stable wm 6.5 rom maybe with a couple tweaks for my phone bc im so tired of this basic 6.1 i have on my phone right now with all the gayness that insuades from it with all the bugs and lags. If any of you guys could help that would be awesome. Please help im

So you're saying that the step by step guide is too hard for you to use?
I'm not sure how someone else can help you better, 7 steps aren't that many. I would suggest you not even try to flash roms on this phone if the below link is too difficult to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

I've only tried a few cooked ROMs with my new (only slightly used by previous owner) Kaiser, but flashed quite a few onto my Elfin, and those experiences give me a good sense of when a WM phone is 'happy' and when it's not. I've settled on following development by ahmedfikry, as his bare-bones WM6.5.3 ROM are really snappy in response, and allow a lot of flexibility for the user to install, or not, any software into main memory (Windows folder) they like. Installing to that folder, rather than the usual \Program Files or onto microSD, is preferable to maintain smooth operation for some kinds of programs, especially important for Today plugins and system enhancing plugins such as SPB shell stuff, etc. Using his fairly simple guide, I found it dead easy to flash. The only hesitation I had was in selecting from the sometimes un-described enhancement CABs in his XDA_UC folder (placed in the microSD root directory, installed automagically on first boot after flashing without any user initiation), as being new to the Kaiser I was not yet familiar with some of these. But there seems nothing overly difficult there, just a bit of research perhaps. I'll tweak my selections further next time I have a few hours to flash and manually customize per my preferences.
His ROM thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767
I really do highly recommend this version. I need my phone every day for work, and cannot afford a buggy ROM or I'd annoy customers too much. My Elfin sort of kind of died, so the Kaiser is it for me. With this ROM my Kaiser is happy. Next flash, I'll be putting a host of my long time favourite apps into that UC folder, as the Kaiser has plenty of main memory I otherwise don't use.

hey thanks "GerardSamija" yeah i use my tilt for pretty much the same deal. my phoneis my job pretty much i use it to keep up contacts through and make many business related calls and such. so exactilly what i was looking for is rom without to much bloatware and wasnt buggy or laggy so this seems to be a good fit thanks again

Really Can't make sense of it all

There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?

kfreels said:
There needs to be a dummies guide to this. I can't make sense of it all. I find literally hundreds of ROMs and then find dozens of builds for each one. I can't take it anymore! All I want is something that removes the bloatware, runs faster than the stock Tilt 2 ROM, doesn't lose any capabilities such as keyboards, etc, lets SPB MS 3.5 run faster, and lets me tether.
Why don't the chef's at least provide a simple list of their ROMs and what they do, what works better and what doesn't work with that particular ROM? I've been digging through this site for two weeks now and I'm not even any closer to knowing what to flash now than when I started. I know from other searches that the Mods tend to close requests like this, but I'm really stumped and I really have tried. I'm not an idiot by any means. I do understand that these are being provided for free and that I should be appreciative....and I am. But it seems to me that even the devs themselves would benefit from this so they wouldn't duplicate each others work and would be able to better track what they are doing.
Anyways, any suggestions for the ROM to do what I want?
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What you do is flash one and see if you like it. If not, it is quite simple to flash another.
Try the Titanium 2 Jun NRG ROM and see what you think. It has no Sense version at all, which increases the storage memory size.
http://www.fileserve.com/list/X9nQc65
EDIT: I am assuming that you have read the "Flashing for NOOB" and the "Hard SPL" threads, you need both to be able to flash a custom ROM.

I have pretty much tried all of the ROMs but I reallly like only 2 ROMs. The best one for me is Cell Evo V7 (23541) (the link to thread. I have just flashed Josh's ROM. n i havent had any problem yet. I use the Sense 2.1. (its in my sig) I think 2.5 is still very buggy. so that maybe somethin u may wanna try out. I think the evo one is the most stable! but this is all just my own opinion. u may or may not like them!

Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.

kfreels said:
Thanks for the tips. I have read the pages you mentioned and I understand that flashing in itself is a simple process. But for me, it's not just the flashing. I have to flash, install SPB MS and all of my apps, setup my weather, my exchange server and sync my contacts, configure active-sync, apply all my tweaks and then the phone is ready to use. Then if I don't like a ROM because it is slow or buggy, I'll have to do it all again......
At least that's how I picture it. Now if you are telling me that I don't have to go through all that each time, then I'll be a happy camper, but I suspect I am right on this.
What is a "sense" version that you are referring to?
Also, if you could explain the difference between a light, full and normal build that would be nice.
And what the deal is with finding matching "radios" whatever that is about.
And what is a "manila"?
And the problem with keyboards???? Do most ROMS have trouble using the keyboard? What other issues might I encounter while trying to use the normal functions of the device?
There's a lot of jargon here and I just don't see a single place that explains it all.
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Manilla = Sense. "Sense" is the name that HTC uses for their UI. There are two major versions, 2.1 and 2.5 (newest). There is also an older UI called TF3D (TouchFlo 3D).
Matching radios refers to flashing your radio with different firmware. The device has ROM versions, which is what everyone is referring to, and the Radio has a different version. Some people prefer a certain radio, some ROMs recommend a certain radio. I'm using NRG, and have never updated my radio version.
Keyboards. Most ROMS will not automatically map your keyboard (AT&T and T-Mobile have different mappings - the exception is a ROM built for a specific carrier). The reason is simple - the Chef doesn't know what carrier you are using! On the NRG ROMs, there is a tool included to "provision" your device for your carrier; this fixes the keyboard. Or you can do a search and find the right keyboard .cab file for your device.
- Light, medium, and full. I personally don't use these terms, but my definition would be as follows. Light is a ROM that has very little added functionality other than what Microsoft provided with the operating system. Full is a ROM (like NRG) that has lots of custom stuff baked into the ROM - extra utilities and etc., which are useful to you (in the Chef's opinion). A medium would be somewhere in between.
I would include the stock ROM as a "Full" ROM, except that in their case a lot of their software is "bloatware", which means stuff they added because they could, or they had some kind of deal with a particular company, etc. It is called "bloatware" because it seems to serve only the purpose of making the ROM harder to use and cluttering up the menu system with lots of useless stuff - bloated.
Are you a happier camper?

two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier

jdm_labrat said:
two of your best bets are gonna be the
e2 rom and the nrg version of your choise
e2 rom is almost exatly like the att stock but a lot sexier
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Umm, speaking personally, I'm not sure I want a "sexy" TP2!

Ah. That explains a lot. Thanks for the info. Maybe one day when I'm no longer a dummy I'll write a dummies guide. Until then, thanks for the tips.

Hi,
I had the same problem as you, I just wanted a stock rom without all the extra stuff that htc provides, I wanted to be simple, fast and stable, after flashing a lot of ROM I decided to take the problem in my own hands so I started learning how to cook my own ROM, you have a very good guide about how to do that here.
After reading and understanding this guide you can create your own ROMs just the way you like it.
Maybe just like me you will not succeed for the first time, but in the end you will have a ROM cooked by you and will suite all your needs.
Good luck!

[Q] Touch Diamond Roms

Hi,getting my htc touch diamond this week (its in the mail) & was wondering as some of you folks out there have had yours a few years now can you give me a list of names for roms you think are worth trying ie Energy rom ,then i can go find them & collect them all to try out,i seen the energy one on utube love the icons & smoothnes of it but would like you guys ideas knowing more than me... thyanks in advance Ali... lincolnshire uk

There is so much variety out there. It really depends what you want to get from your device. Just have a look through the ROM section and pick out one with what you need.
Personally I use this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740252
It's the fastest and most stable ROM I've tried yet.

Cheers for that yeh i been looking it seems there loads to pick from,ime just getting my head round how to flash one,i have flashed it but not the mtty way so just reading how to do it that way.. dont seem as easy maby ime missing some thing..

To much info for me...:)

I've got a few questions, and there's so much stuff on this forum, that i can't seem to find what i'm looking for.
I own a dutch TP2 without a simlock, just to make clear.
I'm looking for a very simple, fast and stable rom.
I only use the phone for calling, sms, i-net with opera or skyfire, and sometimes i watch a youtube movie. So i don't need everything else. Only thing i have on my phone now is the simple start menu and S2U2. I don't even use Sense.
Is there such a rom out there, that works on my phone?
And is there a "n00b guide" for how to flash it?
Tnx in advance

I'd say try mine LBFAR based on COM2 (21899), it is probably the fastest ROM featuring Manila. Don't worry, it is 100 times faster than Sense, while it keeps nice and cool UI .
You can try mine also COM5 (23569), but it isn't bugless and I'm afraid I will never fix some issues, because they are unfixable.

yes, there is a guide for how to flash it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
be sure to read the whole guide before you flash it. Flashing the ROM is not too hard although can be a bit intimidating for the first time but after you have done it, it's not too bad.
For your need, I would suggest go with the titanium based roms, these roms took out all of the extras and just have the essentials in it. A lot of people like the long time establishment, such as Energy ROM. I personally have been using energy's rom and happy with it as to which oen is the best or most stable that's a bit hard to say because each ROM can be slightly different. You can also opt for a few other ROM that simply stripe all of the extras and use them.

I second that, Ondrster's ROM is incredibly fast and stable. I'm not using it ATM, but I would recommend it to anyone. If you want a lot of features and want to avoid HTC's UI all together, try NRG's titanium ROM, full of features, and very stable and fast. You might also want to look at using a different UI, such as SPB Mobile Shell; which is customizable and widget based, allowing you to keep your homescreen layout quite simple (it's also great on battery life).

Information overload... I agree. I am Dutch and have a HTC Pro2 too, just like you. Sometimes I come here on the forums, because I'd like to see what ROMS are there. This time my eye fell on this one:
"[ROM] [WWE] [ August 21 ] [ simplicity - 21915 | 23130 | Sense 2018 ]"
Wow! Looks fast, and not too different from the original WM 6.5 software. I decided to give it a go... So I start to read, and sure enough, I'm confused again before you know it and decided not to bother with it. First reason was this:
"IMPORTANT: Make sure you have used Hard-SPL before flashing any ROM. I also recommend you to use Task 29 each time before flashing any ROM."
Hard-what? Why do I need that? So ok, I click on the link, go to another thread, see tons of info with bigletters and red warnings etc. but NO INFO ON WHAT IT ACTUALLY DOES! Confuuuusingggggg... And Task29? What the heck is THAT?! Must I really read 100+ pages per thread?
See, you guys might understand a lot of this stuff, but not all of us do. My wish is that it would be made easy and understandable so I don't just keep coming and going but nothing changes on this microsoft dominated *** slow phone that contains a lot of sh* i don't even need....
Bleh. I'll keep trying until I get it.

In few words: HardSPL disables checking when flashing, if the ROM is from HTC or any other people (in default, it is enabled only for HTC of course).
Task29 is overrated IMHO, I never did it and I never had any issues . If you don't have strange and weird issues that happen only for you, you can forget about task29.

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In few words: HardSPL disables checking when flashing, if the ROM is from HTC or any other people (in default, it is enabled only for HTC of course).
Task29 is overrated IMHO, I never did it and I never had any issues . If you don't have strange and weird issues that happen only for you, you can forget about task29.
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OK thank you for the answer. I have browsed much and have read that Task29 removes stale files that have not been removed after ROM upgrades. Perhaps I'll give it a go later on. Right now I am waiting for a HardSPL key, because I understand that I need one. After that I'm going to flash my first ROM! So exciting...!!
I have used my calendar a lot and I sync it with ActiveSync daily. I won't lose the calendar, will I? I think that I can just sync it back after ROM flashing.. but if I am overlooking something, please let me know
OldSkool-II >> How are you doing with your flashing quest?

If it's synced, you should be fine.

If you want a fast and completely stable ROM then stay with Windows Mobile 6.1, don't care if someone has a "fast" version of any WM6.5 out there.
It's like saying Windows Vista is faster, and more stable, than Windows XP. Regardless of all the tweaking you do XP will always be faster.
But give both versions a try if since you're new to flashing and if one bothers you then just keep flashing , I've had this ROM on my phone for moths and it doesn't even cross my mind to even want to try a new ROM or look for anything else. It's as perfect as it can get in fact lol.

buru898 said:
If you want a fast and completely stable ROM then stay with Windows Mobile 6.1, don't care if someone has a "fast" version of any WM6.5 out there.
It's like saying Windows Vista is faster, and more stable, than Windows XP. Regardless of all the tweaking you do XP will always be faster.
But give both versions a try if since you're new to flashing and if one bothers you then just keep flashing , I've had this ROM on my phone for moths and it doesn't even cross my mind to even want to try a new ROM or look for anything else. It's as perfect as it can get in fact lol.
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Umm, not with Sense its not.
There is a reason why they created 6.5. If you add Sense to 6.1, you are going to recmod a LOT of things and its just gonna make your phone so darn slow you will want to set it on fire.

Still a bit iffy about flashing it, although i did it beforen with a really old WM phone.
Just want to find a ROM that does what i want it to do.
On another note, my coworker has an Iphone, and when he's watching a movie with youtube, it doens't have to buffer every 25 sec...
Same provider tho, but that's prolly the difference between windows and android?
Maybe not the right place to ask, but is there a stable android for the TP2?