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TyTN II problem, connected on call, but can't hear anything...

I have this problem on my TYTN II, its running on Windows Mobile 6.1,
ROM Version : 3.29.707.0 WWE
Radio Version : 1.65.16.25
Here is the problem, there are instances that when I answer / make a call, I don't get to hear anything on the ear piece, and the other party also doesn't hear me. I can't seem to figure out where exactly the problem is, because when I do a soft reset, it will work normally again.
Anyone here experienced the same problem ? Any solution ?
Thank you.

jtphl said:
I have this problem on my TYTN II, its running on Windows Mobile 6.1,
ROM Version : 3.29.707.0 WWE
Radio Version : 1.65.16.25
Here is the problem, there are instances that when I answer / make a call, I don't get to hear anything on the ear piece, and the other party also doesn't hear me. I can't seem to figure out where exactly the problem is, because when I do a soft reset, it will work normally again.
Anyone here experienced the same problem ? Any solution ?
Thank you.
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I had that problem with an older version of Dutty's wm6.1 rom. I recently upgraded to the Dutty's Apr 29th version (the 19000? or whatever, the upper number one in the thread) and used a 1.71 radio. I haven't had the issue since.
One thing that caused the problem was the headphone adapter with the wm6.1. It would "activate" the headphone mode (turn off the speaker/mic), but when unplugged it wouldn't "deactivate" it until I rebooted the phone. This happened about 30% of the time.

jtphl said:
I have this problem on my TYTN II, its running on Windows Mobile 6.1,
ROM Version : 3.29.707.0 WWE
Radio Version : 1.65.16.25
Here is the problem, there are instances that when I answer / make a call, I don't get to hear anything on the ear piece, and the other party also doesn't hear me. I can't seem to figure out where exactly the problem is, because when I do a soft reset, it will work normally again.
Anyone here experienced the same problem ? Any solution ?
Thank you.
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Sounds like a Radio/ROM incompatibility issue. Try flashing the radio ROM that you know works with the ROM and see if you still have the same problems.

Tytn II problem on calls
I have the 1.65.16.25 Radio version, and I am using the official HTC WM6.1 upgrade that I got from South East Asia versions.
i want to upgrade to a 1.71 radio but was unable to do so, i tried to put the .nbh file to a MicroSD and booted to Bootloader but no response, no flashing of radio takes place.

jtphl said:
I have the 1.65.16.25 Radio version, and I am using the official HTC WM6.1 upgrade that I got from South East Asia versions.
i want to upgrade to a 1.71 radio but was unable to do so, i tried to put the .nbh file to a MicroSD and booted to Bootloader but no response, no flashing of radio takes place.
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rename the RUU file to KAISIMG.nbh
back to the basics .........
page 1 on kaiser wiki......
ROM Upgrading
1. Don't know what a ROM is?
* Watch this first, and read the ROM Flashing FAQ.
2. Don't know what a SPL is?
* After reading the basics if you are still confused about SPLs, or which SPL you want, read SPL Questions?.
3. Upgrading your ROM can void your warranty. Worried?
* Browse through how to revert back ROM and SPL for warranty return before you start.
4. Think you're ready?
* Read some things to know before and after you flash.
5. Ready now?
* Start here with the Introduction to ROM Flashing to find out!
6. Still confused?
* How about another how to flash the ROM thread.
* Or, How to flash the ROM using a MicroSD Card

I was able to upgrade to 1.71.09.01, but the problem still persists. After making plenty of calls as testing, problem went on again, and a reset again temporarily solved the problem.

I had the same problem when I installed a custom dialer. I then uninstalled it and seemed to not happen anymore.
I kept to the htc dialer.

I had it a couple of times on my bone stock O2 XDA Stellar. A soft re-set sorted it though.

I cannot make calls anymore please help

rom version 3.57.502.2 wwe
rom date 07/17/08
radio version 1.70.0liNex
protocol version 25.65.30.04h
spl-1.0.0lipof
it moves slow now and cant make calls here nothing anymore. How can i fix this any clues. Any help appreciated
To elaborate a little.
I make a call and here no ringing whatsoever it then saiys connected I can't hear nothing. The person on the other end hears nothing as well as you can imagine. I did a hard reboot, cleared storage and everything. Still no luck. Everything else works and yes my provider is att and it is on the 3g network it stays on there. So I know its not losing connection. I can browse net send messages just cant call anyone but people who call me. Their info comes up on my phone but nothing when i connect to connect them.

You will want to flash a proper radio and a proper HardSPL. Both of those on your phone right now are hacked to allow you to unlock your phone, they are not meant to be used as an everyday radio or HardSPL.
I would recommend you start off with HardSPL 3.29hard2 by cmonex, and that you test a bunch of different radios... I have my best luck with 1.71.09.01eMo, but that is me, you might have a horrible reception with it in your area. Try reading the stickies in the Kaiser ROM Developement:
Radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
HardSPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320

Wow I didn't even know I will try it when I get home I appreciate your help in this matter my friend.

Your welcome!
And you might want to follow this link for the HardSPL, it is newer and cleaner for the so easier to process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320

I got everything working. Thanks for your help and the phone calls work great now..I'm so relieved.
Im running Hard spl 3.29
rom is josh's 21195 build
Im using the same radio version as you as well..
its working flawlessly so far I cant believe it.

hawktimewebdesign said:
I got everything working. Thanks for your help and the phone calls work great now..I'm so relieved.
Im running Hard spl 3.29
rom is josh's 21195 build
Im using the same radio version as you as well..
its working flawlessly so far I cant believe it.
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Happy to hear! Glad I was able to help. If you like the WM6.5 stuff you might want to check out some with the newest WM6.5 core build, 21501. And yes, it is newer than 21510, which doesnt sound right, but that is how MS rolls sometimes.

at&t tilt sound problem after incoming call

hi forum. i have been looking around to solve this problem but i wasn't able to find a solution yet so i am asking here.
i had a tilt working great, i had an accident and the phone is destroyed so i get another one.
it is the same phone but it just don't have the camera, this one came with a new version of windows mobile(6.1).
i am now having this issue, when i get an incoming call and i answer i can't hear anything from the other side and the other side can't hear me either.
after that, the phone gets totally muted, it don't make any more sound when sliding or whatever.
the only way to fix it is reboot the phone, that way i get sound again but after i get an incoming call the problem happens again.
the problem wasn't happening if i made the call but today i made a long call and after a while talking i got a constant buzz, the buzz only stopped after i turned off the phone.
any help will be apreciated as i am totally lost here.
thanks.

Have you tried flashing a different radio or a different ROM?

talking with my vendor it seems that he flashed the rom and maybe the porblem can be the radio.
i am reading here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 but i dont have idea wich radio should i download and either how to make the installation.
my device information is:
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
Rom date: 07/17/2008
Radio Version: 1.70.OliNex
Protocol Version: 25.65.30.04H
so maybe the radio is not compatible with the rom and that is why i am having issues with the sound ?

That is a possibility. The nice part about flashing radios is that they are completely independent from the ROM. When you flash a radio it won't flash or reset your device. Therefore, you can flash and test as many radios as you want without any real negative side-effects Just stick with the one that ends up working the best for you!

Digital Outcast, thank you for your help.
do you think you or someone can point me to a tutorial to flash the radio only ?
i am finding how to update the rom but not the radio only.
thank you again.

To flash the radio follow the same steps as flashing the ROM. You need only the radio (.nbh file) and the Kaiser Custom RUU. Just don't do a hard-reset or anything after it completes!

cool, i installed a new radio and it fixed that problem, i am checking other common features of the phone, for now everything seems to be fine.
thank you very much for your help

Problem with incoming call
I have exactly the same problem and the same versions of software and firmware. Which version of the radio firmware did you install? Where did you get it? This is my first use of a smart phone and don't know much at all about where to get this.
Thanks!!

gladone said:
I have exactly the same problem and the same versions of software and firmware. Which version of the radio firmware did you install? Where did you get it? This is my first use of a smart phone and don't know much at all about where to get this.
Thanks!!
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Start by reading the stickies. Always best place to start. Or if you are lazy and wish to just jump to radios use this >link<. But I definitely recommend you read all the stickies before flashing a device for the first time. Just start with the newest radio and work backwards til you find a good one for your device.

What the hell nothing works

Bought an HD, flashed HSPL, flashed Dutty R14, hard reset twice. Everything works perfectly except phone freezes every time I try to answer an incoming call. So I flashed 3 other roms and had the same problem with all of them. Then I flashed the stock Telstra rom and it works perfectly, I can answer calls and everything is fine.
I thought it was a problem with my phone so I bought a brand new HD and flashed the HSPL then the R14 rom and I have the same problem where I can't answer calls. There's no way it's a problem with the phone itself since it's brand new and I've had this problem on 2 separate phones. It's also hard to believe that every single rom here has a problem where you can't answer calls, or that R14 is so bad that it screws up something internally as soon as you install it.
What's going on?

This same thing happened to me - had to get a new SIM card from my cell phone provider. Some older SIM cards cause this - not sure why?

rpimps said:
Bought an HD, flashed HSPL, flashed Dutty R14, hard reset twice. Everything works perfectly except phone freezes every time I try to answer an incoming call. So I flashed 3 other roms and had the same problem with all of them. Then I flashed the stock Telstra rom and it works perfectly, I can answer calls and everything is fine.
I thought it was a problem with my phone so I bought a brand new HD and flashed the HSPL then the R14 rom and I have the same problem where I can't answer calls. There's no way it's a problem with the phone itself since it's brand new and I've had this problem on 2 separate phones. It's also hard to believe that every single rom here has a problem where you can't answer calls, or that R14 is so bad that it screws up something internally as soon as you install it.
What's going on?
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You got to be kidding. If it works perfect with stock rom, your phone is good in quality.
You should try updating the Radio as well.

bdbell said:
This same thing happened to me - had to get a new SIM card from my cell phone provider. Some older SIM cards cause this - not sure why?
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Yeah my card is at least a few years old (still says Cingular instead of AT&T) so I'll try getting a new one and see if it works.
mcdull said:
You got to be kidding. If it works perfect with stock rom, your phone is good in quality.
You should try updating the Radio as well.
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What radio would you suggest? 1.14.25.24 is supposed to be the best one for my area (inner-city Houston/Austin, TX in the US) and that's what I've been using. It's the same one that comes with the stock rom that worked.

rpimps, I'm a bit north of you in OK, and 1.13.25.24 is what I've used for some time with great batt life and reception and got the same while in Houston not long ago.
I've got the Telstra, but the stock rom I flash before cooked is always the European 1.56, which I downloaded from the HTC Europe website. It comes with 1.13.

bdbell said:
This same thing happened to me - had to get a new SIM card from my cell phone provider. Some older SIM cards cause this - not sure why?
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I got a new sim and it still does it. Also I'm using the same radio that I used with the stock rom, and the stock rom worked fine, so I doubt the radio is the problem. I think the HD just isn't capable of running these roms.

Is your model a BLAC100?
Also, what language did you use?
Could it be the problem of non-English characters?

mcdull said:
Is your model a BLAC100?
Also, what language did you use?
Could it be the problem of non-English characters?
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How do you check if it's a BLAC100? All I know is it's an 8285. The only language I use is English.

Why don't you try another rom, there's a lot of rom's here.

rpimps said:
Then I flashed the stock Telstra rom and it works perfectly, I can answer calls and everything is fine.
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So hardware of your HD is OK. Nothing wrong with device.
As Sean3 wrote, try to flash WM 6.1 European 1.56, links are on HD Wiki...
If it works too, then it's some conflict between cooked ROMs and your device.

Bodisson said:
So hardware of your HD is OK. Nothing wrong with device.
As Sean3 wrote, try to flash WM 6.1 European 1.56, links are on HD Wiki...
If it works too, then it's some conflict between cooked ROMs and your device.
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It works fine with the stock rom, but it doesn't work with ANY other rom. That's what's so weird.

Totally wild question: Are you sure you have UNLOCKED device?
Altough, I have no idea does that matter at all...

Just 2 throw in my 2 cents and a quick recap:
1. You flashed HSPL - Was this successful? What is your SPL? Did you use correct HSPL? Did you follow this guide?
2. You then flashed rom and everything worked but phone freezed everytime you tried to answer a call - Have you tried another radio?
3. There is no reason why your device wouldn't be able to use cooked roms if you have successfully unlocked it by using either USPL or HSPL
4. You say you have returned to stock rom - Did you return to original stock rom, i.e. rom which was on your device when you got it. Did you also return to stock SPL? Was this 100% successful?

Bodisson said:
Totally wild question: Are you sure you have UNLOCKED device?
Altough, I have no idea does that matter at all...
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Yes it's unlocked. It does answer calls SOMETIMES and it always makes outgoing calls successfully.
Fallen Spartan said:
Just 2 throw in my 2 cents and a quick recap:
1. You flashed HSPL - Was this successful? What is your SPL? Did you use correct HSPL? Did you follow this guide?
2. You then flashed rom and everything worked but phone freezed everytime you tried to answer a call - Have you tried another radio?
3. There is no reason why your device wouldn't be able to use cooked roms if you have successfully unlocked it by using either USPL or HSPL
4. You say you have returned to stock rom - Did you return to original stock rom, i.e. rom which was on your device when you got it. Did you also return to stock SPL? Was this 100% successful?
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1. HSPL flash was successful, I used this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3930436&postcount=2 - and flashed it to 1.56 olinex.
2. I tried 2 radios, 1.14 and 1.17.
3. I flashed the stock Telstra rom but kept the 1.56 olinex SPL. Was successful, and phone works perfectly with this rom. I also tried another wm6.1 rom (dutty 3.9xt) to see if there was a problem with it running 6.5 but the 6.1 rom had the same problem.

Is your device not SIM locked? Can you insert another SIM into the device, try one of your mates SIMs

ClydeB1 said:
Is your device not SIM locked? Can you insert another SIM into the device, try one of your mates SIMs
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Tried that, it has the same problem, outgoing calls are fine but incoming calls freeze sometimes.
The device is an unlocked Telstra and I'm using it with AT&T in the US.

Problem with HTC Kaiser Tytn II - please help...

So my problem is - I put android on my htc tytn II and it worked (well kinda) but anyway I decided to switch back to Windows Mobile...
I installed 1.27.x.x radio , found a Windows Mobile 6 ROM and put (Like in the instructions ) Kaisimg.nbh(renamed from ruu_signed.nbh) and Kaisdiag.nbh to my SD card and then started flashing... It flashed smth,rebooted automatically and started booting android again...
Then I hold again camera button + power+ reset and since then when I put EVERY .nbh file on my sd card and try to flash it it STUCK on "Loading.." If I try to flash it with USB It stays at 0%.
The only exeption is if I try to flash from USB the rom that I tried to flash before from my sd card.. then it starts 0%..1% and reboot the phone...
P.S: Please help me...I think my device is not Broken but I dont know what should I do to fix it...

To flash back to WM from android put your kaiser into bootloader (multi colored screen) Then connect to usb. Download any WM build that is recent (I suggest Phoenix 3 for this, you can flash whatever you want later). After you download it open and run the included RUU that came with it and it will flash it on there.

hmm, I also had experienced the similar problem on my 1st time flashing back to WinMo.
When you are trying to flash via USB cable and the process stopped at 1% I guess there is also a message about "Invalid vender ID" right?
and if the text in your bootloader (tricolor screen) doesn't mention anything about hard such as "3.29.0000" (not "3.29.hard")
then
you've lost your hard SPL that's why you cant flash any .nbh to your phone.
I had managed to solve this problem by flashing stock WM rom for kaiser. The rom also has to be suitable for your phone, I mean if your kaiser is originally from France, then use French kaiser stock rom. Or if you are using AT&T Tilt use kaiser cingular stock rom.
you can find the list of shipped roms for kaiser here :
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Kaiser/
If you still have the "invalid vender ID" error message, try another stock ROM.

Thanks man you're my hero! I though I lost my phone.. anyway i bought new one - Nokia 2730 Classic but Ill sell the kaiser...
Thanks Anyway ... you're god!

Have the same problem...
Firstly, I'd like to point that the reason for the hard SPL getting overwritten by an original SPL is NOT HAVING UPDATED HARDSPL to a newer version that prevents accidental overwrite. This is instructed in the previous steps before actually installing Android. That was my mistake (I had HardSPL 1.0 OliPof), and now I can't flash no rom to my Kaiser (which thankfully works quite well in Android).
What happens (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that "KAISDIAG.NBH" is a modified, standalone hardSPL that will flash to the phone the SPL that comes with the "KAISIMG.NBH" you put in your SD card with "KAISDIAG.NBH"). In my case, I used the WinMo 6.1 spanish version 3.29.412.0, which, resulted in my phone being flashed with the original SPL 3.29.
Now, it seems many users have fixed this locating the correct stock rom and flashing it in their Kaisers. But to others, like myself, nothing seems to work. I believe that this is because we not only need a stock rom for our specific Kaiser model, but also it has to be compatible with the SPL that accidentally got installed in the phone. The problem is what if such rom doesn't even exists?
I'm really thankfull for all I learned by reading the forums (and from my mistakes ) and I know I'm in no position to make requests, but here goes what I think could help the users like myself to fix this, if posible:
1) Guide to identify what model of Kaiser we have (maybe it's already there, I just couldn't find it)
2) Complete list (or lists) of stock roms (There are some around, those are easy to find I think, but it doesn't hurt to share different sources)
3) Something like a JumpSPL for Android would be more than awesome...
Thanks in advance to everybody, sorry for my own stupidity . Any idea or help would be much appreciated,
Daniel

hmm, I'm not sure if it has to be compatible with the SPL.
In my case, I was flashing a very old WWE stock rom which has original SPL 1.56.
I also had been very desperate because any stock rom I found seems doesn't work and I even didn't know where originally my kaiser came from because I get it from my uncle. So I tried to flash any WWE stock rom I could found but nothing works. I read from Wikipedia that based on my phone model (Kais100), this model was only sold as AT&T tilt for US. But the problem is my phone is HTC branded, not AT&T tilt. Well, based on this information I also tried to flash some cingular stock rom but the result was just the same.
After contacting HTC Customer care, I know more info about my phone. They told me that based on my phone product ID, my kaiser was originally shipped for US, but unfortunately they can't provide me stock rom for my phone model. So I searched myself but this time I had better objective : to search HTC branded rom but for US.
finally, after days of search. I've found the rom that is suitable for my phone. Its called HTC WWE Brightpoint US which has original SPL 3.29 at the bottom of the list on the website I told you on my previous post.
few weeks ago I also accidentally overwrite my HardSPL again, but this time I did it with the stock ROM which has original SPL 3.29. But this problem also solved by flashing the stock ROM I've found before via USB cable.
So, I guess it has nothing to do with spl version.
Keep tying don't give up.

Update: Step 1 completed! YAY
Using the serial number and some obscure google searching, I came to the conclusion my KAIS130 is australian. Cheers, mate!
I verified this by being able to download stock roms from the australian HTC site with my Kaiser serial number. But at the moment of writing this, have downloaded two roms and no luck yet. 5 minutes remaining for the third one... Wish me luck...
Daniel.

Well... Now what?
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel

cuartetoraro said:
Tried all four rom-like thingies I could download on the HTC page, all of them returning error 294...
Now what? try to somehow extract the .nbhs from the exes and and use customRUU.exe? Try to flash from SD card?
Please help... Any ideas... I really want to get rid from that original SPL3.29.0000 It's evil!!! I think it won't never let me flash again.
Thanks,
Daniel
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sorry to hear that..
well, extract the .nbh from exe and flash it via sd card is the method that made me overwrite my hard SPL in the first place.
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?

-Rif- said:
sorry to hear that..
hmm, did your phone comes with operator brand, such as three or something?
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No, it's HTC unbranded. Now, something strange here: the label behind the battery has the serial number: HT830GB06075 and the P/N (guess it's part number) :99HCY194-00, but to the left of the camera, another label with the part number: 36H00563-00M and below says DATE:061107(TB02)/US.
I don't know if that's normal, but it caught my atention because my phone seems to have been dissasembled (little label over screw is teared). Maybe my Kaiser isn't Australian after all...