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Internal and External Root confusing

I am in the UK. I wanted to root my G1 so I did the 1Click Root method. I had no problem at all except that I didn't get internal root only the external root needed for updating the Rom.
When I updated my Recovery with Rav.1.2.0g it gave me an excellent menu (that also helps with SD Partition) that was overwritten. I again updated the revovery wit Rav.1.2.1g and that to has been over written with the standard recovery. Perhaps I should have wiped first?
A few points that might help. I used quick format and the Dreaimg was not high case and there was no problem. The main problem I see is finding an RC7 or RC29 image that is not corrupted possibly during download.
I am unable to run apps that require root so how do I now get internal root. I am happy to go through the 1Click method as it is so good and easy.

Isn't Ra's recovery image for Magic 32A's? If so, you need to 1-click root again and keep your Cyanogen 1.4 recovery image, as that's what gives you good root.

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Ra's recovery does work on the g1, I believe it is meant for the 32b's like the mytouch. Anyways....did you flash to a custom rom, if not than the stock update or roms will cause you to lose root by putting the security back on and rewriting the stock recovery. If you are on a modded rom, you should have superuser, to check if you have root go into terminal and type su, if it says permission denied than you don't have root, if you get a # than you do

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Ra's recovery does work on the g1, I believe it is meant for the 32b's like the mytouch. Anyways....did you flash to a custom rom, if not than the stock update or roms will cause you to lose root by putting the security back on and rewriting the stock recovery. If you are on a modded rom, you should have superuser, to check if you have root go into terminal and type su, if it says permission denied than you don't have root, if you get a # than you do
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As I recall after doing the 1Click method I did check su and its was permission denied. That was why I did not update the Rom until I found out more about internal and external root. I did try the SuperUser app but it would not work on a non rooted G1.
As for the Rav Recovery image. Part of the unlockr 1Click states to ignore the recovery image supplied and use the Rav one as it is compatable with future updates.
My problem now then is how to back up what is on the phone?

Follow the guide in my sig for one click root ,if you have a g1/dream.

I have never used the one click but what what I hear, it does somehow overwrite the security so after you use it than go right into recovery and flash a custom rom right than and there or you will lose root<just my understanding from what I read and what I do know already> so reuse the recovery flasher again, make sure you got a rom ready to go and give it another shot, I would keep cyan's recovery or al least put it back on after you use ra's just so you have a terminal to cover your ass

Plea - Need help. Explain correct way to root FRF91. Noobs want to know!

OK friends, I will pass the favor to others for current information. I've been all over the forums looking for the safest way to root the FRF91. The problem is, the pages with some instructions have dead links to files and missing information about recovery. The stickies are gone or are showing how to root older roms only. The information is partly available in multiple places only. There are people searching and still confused on the correct procedure to root with or without an unlocked bootloader. I for one, am not sure when to use a recovery file or if any is needed. If some veteran or experienced user can finally post accurate and complete instructions on the exact procedure to root the FRF91 rom, others will be eternally grateful.
1) Please explain how to root FRF91 (aware 91 has to be downgraded).
2) If a recovery rom is needed.
3) How to downgrade to an earlier rom for root access.
4) How to upgrade back to FRF91 (or custom rom).
Yes, this question has been asked a number of times and most of these posts are passed over and ignored. People want to know and will keep asking because there are not clear instructions on rooting or recovery for this latest rom.
Thanks for your time.

((A))
1) Wait for [email protected] modaco to update his superboot.
2) Use that.
((B))
1) Flash AmonRA recovery using adb/fastboot.
2) When flash is done, reboot into recovery using fastboot, or pull the battery when it's done being written (but NOT before!!!!) and reboot into recovery with the trackball+power combo. If you boot normally without root, it will overwrite the recovery with the default one.
3) From within AmonRA, flash a rooted ROM using .zip file.

what i did is installed a clean 2.1
Then i just let the OTA do its job.
Installed OTA
downloaded Root Access via LINK
Flashed it in Amon Ra
Done.
If you allready have un-rooted FRF91 just use the link.

Which clean 2.1 are you referring to? Please post a link.
Can I downloaded Root Access via the "LINK" only without downgrading to 2.1 and flash Amon Ra Recovery if FRF91 is already OTA installed?

1) Please explain how to root FRF91 (aware 91 has to be downgraded).
To downgrade to get root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
2) If a recovery rom is needed.
Custom recovery rom is not necessary to root, only to flash custom ROM
3) How to downgrade to an earlier rom for root access.
See #1
4) How to upgrade back to FRF91 (or custom rom).
Go here and pick a rom that based on FRF91 Froyo. Cyanogen Beta is out, as well as Enomther's Official Rom 2.9.2

[Q] lost recovery after 2.2.1 ota

i had cyanogen custom ROM installed on my nexus i used the ROM option to install stock froyo ROM with superuser, after that I had the stock fr191 ROM then the O.T.A. update hit my phone and since that i lost my recovery I still can access it only by pressing power and volume + but it doesn't give me any option beside flash update.zip is there a way to install recovery without messing the FRG83, 2.2.1 its very good no problems I just want the htc camera with the 720 support. and i also miss the back up restore option, any help?

I used the rageagainstthecage method to gain root and then flashed the recovery with the method described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7392149&postcount=61

thanks allot but the recovery image in the link is not valid

Read my signature, read the relevant guides, and download the new recovery listed in "Recovery".

[Q] How to get back to vanilla from rooted FRF91 with custom recovery?

A couple of months ago I rooted my N1 FRF91 with Universal Androot. Later I flashed psfMod (based on CMW) custom recovery using flash_image recovery.
Now I don't have any use for custom recovery or a rooted device anymore, and want to get back on track to be prepared OTA 2.3.
I have received notifications for 2.2.1 OTA (2-part update), but the device just locks up during the upgrade and gets back to rooted 2.2 after a reboot.
So how do I apply the 2.2.1 update? Could I just flash the original recovery with flash_image (and what file should I get in that case), unroot with androot and just use the OTA? Or is there any better/easier way?
The question feels kinda nooby, but the only guides I find is to get back to shipping conditions (Which I don't want to keep my settings and so on),using fastboot which I can't since my bootloader still is locked or assumed that you are using a custom ROM which I don't.
Thanks for your help!

There is no need to get rid of a custom recovery or root to apply those updates. This has been covered in many threads.
This is what I would do. Use flash_image to flash Amon_RA 1.9.0 recovery. Then download the update (make sure you download the correct one: there is one that is FRG83D from FRF91, which is what you will need if you are running FRF91)and save it to the root of your sdcard. Then boot into recovery, and flash the update. (You will lose root and your custom recovery, but just root again if you want.) That covers part 2 of 2 of the update.
If you want to flash the first part, dowload the HBOOT 0.35 update file (floating around the forums) and place it in the root of your sdcard. Boot into recovery and flash that. You may have problems flashing certain custom recoveries after you flash the 0.35 HBOOT.

Thanks for your reply. If I follow your steps, the 2.3 OTA will work when it eventually comes?

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Thanks for your reply. If I follow your steps, the 2.3 OTA will work when it eventually comes?
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If you keep a custom recovery, you will still get the notification, but you will have to manually apply it. If you keep the stock recovery, it should be able to apply it automatically. No word yet on if the newer HBOOT is a requirement for 2.3 or not.

[Q] Stock Recovery

Okay so here's the deal starting at the beginning:
I bought a Revo 8(ish) months ago. A few months later, I decided to root. Then I went on to flash a custom ROM (GingerVolt). With the new OTA update, my phone started to spaz out. I decided to try to revert to stock so I could accept the update. I was able to download and flash the stock ROM, and then in my stupidity, rather than using AllInOne to unroot, I just used an app off the market. This left me with still having ClockworkMod Recovery installed. When I tried to OTA update, it just booted into CWM and told me that the update failed.
So my question is, how to I get stock recovery back on my phone so that I can get the update and get it back to out-of-box shape.
As you can probably see, I am not very knowledgeable about phones, acronyms, tech in general. If you know any way to help, please let me know in simple terms, step-by-step. Thanks in advance!

1) Boot into cwm, then flash stock rooted zv7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348637
2) Then using MTs AIO package, install stock recovery (option 5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348557
3) Follow the procedure in the new AIO thread to upgrade to ZV8 AND preserve root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566729
By the way, if you have lost root but still have CWM, then just run SuperOneClick to regain root before following the steps above.
http://shortfuse.org

Okay so just to make sure that I have this right...
1. I will need to re-root using SuperOneClick
2. The next step confuses me a little...I already have that exact ROM flashed (the one from the first link). Will I have to re-flash it?
3. Install stock recovery via MTs AIO package
4. OTA Update and I should be done?
Am I right or did I totally butcher he process?