Recently I've been having problems with my Kaiser connecting to my Wifi.
Here is what happens reliably (when phone on it happens more often):
1) Turn on wifi from comms manager (it searches relentlessly)
2) If I try to turn wifi off in command manager at this stage it hangs the comms manager - not even task manager will be able to close it down.
If I turn the phone off (button) then it won't turn on again till a soft reset.
3) soft boot or remove battery - Kaiser comes back with wifi connected immediately most of the time however, it can also come back still searching in which case repeat soft reset or hard reset.
4) Once connection is established - I can connect / reconnect ok till the device is turned off then it happens again. If phone is off it appears to happen more reliably but I've not tested this enough, it happens either way eventually.
So phone on is 95% reliable but can be ok for a couple of times.
5) Once the wifi is in search mode the comms manager is useless and this continues ad infinitum (any attempt to turn wifi off will hang CM) and always a soft boot will bring the device back with a connection established to my wifi point.
Here's what I've tried:
1) Soft boot / battery removal
2) Hard reset without restoring any kind of back up -ie virgin restart
3) Hard reset without allowing custom install of t-mobile software.
Details of my device:
1) T-mobile Win mobile 6 - original rom
2) Hard SPL : SPL-1.0 Oliprof (CPLD-8)
so the only thing I've done to this machine is installed Oli's Hard SPL.
It appears therefore that no software is causing the problem. I am wondering if there's a possibilty of the Hard SPL causing a problem through corruption or do I have a hardware fault with the radio?
I'd be grateful for any help on this as to what I should do next. Please don't tell me to load win6.1 as this worked fine till now so isn't the problem. The only thing I can think of is to re-do the hard spl.
EDIT: Well I've just reloaded Hard spl 1.0 and the problem is the same so I'm out of ideas.
Just a few thoughts - although I do not have problems with my Kaiser, I have met problems with other folks.
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Is the signal quality good - we know the range is not fantastic, so it's worth checking:
Start>Settings>Connections>Wireless Lan (Icon)>Main and look at the Signal Quality.
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Start>Settings>Connections>Wireless Lan (Icon)>Power Mode(Tab) and change to best performance.
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Does it do this with other networks? Don't rule out the Router creating difficulties.
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Do you let the Kaiser go to sleep mode with wifi connected. If so I'd advise you terminate the connection in comm manager and turn off using on/off button rather than allowing auto sleep mode.
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It might be better to allocate a fixed IP address rather than allowing the router to set it. Hangs can be created in the IP allocation stage.
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Do you have any applications set to auto collect data? These could be weather apps, mail, time sync, quick GPS etc etc etc. If so you can try disabling those settings to ensure the crash is not a conflict between setting up the connection and simultaneous data collection.
These can be pesky problems to track down. I suspect that many of the above would be ruled out by your clean boot after a hard reset. If it always works initially after a hard reboot though, it does suggest that another app/process is interferring at a later stage.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Just a few thoughts - although I do not have problems with my Kaiser, I have met problems with other folks.
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Thanks Mike for your valued input.
Just to answer the questions:
1) Yes signal is excellent (I connect in 3 cycles of the animation plus after reboot it connects immediately)
2) I've tried these options - my current setup worked perfectly before, plus of course a hard reset and clean machine displays the same problems
3) I haven't tried on other networks but I've eliminated the router as the problem. I've tried dynamic / fixed - I normally allocate ip via the router plus lock down mac addresses. opened the system. However, this doesn't surprise me because I can cause this lock up without a connection. It's more rare but for instance, if I turn the phone on and delete my signin, normally this pops a dialogue asking which network to connect to. Sometimes that doesn't come up and it still hangs. It is more rare though.
4) No
5) yes tried all optons
6) No and especially not on a clean machine.
I've had the device for some time without any problems so something has changed quite radically which makes me think h/ware. If I were diagnosing this on a pc I'd be looking at both H/ware or a possible driver problem as it the network adapter is locking when it's accessed, however, on this device I don't see the logic of drivers unless they can somehow corrupt in rom even after a hard reset. Is that possible or heard of?
One observation is that when I get the hang and I try to look at the wifi settings I get the following message:
Code:
"To configure your wireless network, please enable your wireless network card".
This little clue seems to point at somethhing that's caused the adaptor to cease responding but somehow in the process locking the comms manager up (ie. if I goto comms manager and try to turn the wifi off, I'll get the spinner ad infinitum). Yet a reboot will kick it back into life again. And notably once it's running, and providing I don't switch the machine off, it'll work till the cows come home perfectly reliably.
I guess my question is whether there is any possible software cause that could exist AFTER a hard reset? Also the reliablity of this problem is enhanced considerably if 1) I have the phone turned on and 2) if I turn the machine off and back on and try to reconnect. Maybe that could indicate a power issue making the adaptor die I don't know what else would make the adapter lock up.
So far I've re-installed the (same) radio and Hardspl and neither of these have changed anything. I could of course go the final step and install the rom again but I haven't done yet as I wasn't sure what components other than the radio might be relevant in the rom.
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If it always works initially after a hard reboot though, it does suggest that another app/process is interferring at a later stage.
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Just to clarify this: Wifi connects 90% after a soft boot initially. A hard reset makes no difference to the behaviour.
It may be a hardware issue, but it would be last on my list of suspects. (I KNOW it must feel as if you have tried everything already – and I think perhaps you have!!!)
Just a couple of further suggestions – since I am certainly not sure where the problem lies.
Having done a Hard Reset, I would 95% rule out a software issue on the phone (though it is possible with corruption of original data – but a remote possibility I think).
I hesitate to suggest a router factory reset, but it may be worth trying.
Two more things to try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2406606&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4233158&postcount=20
I am curious about why having the phone enabled causes more crashes. Have there been any phone network changes in your area. It crosses my mind that there have been a few reports of wifi problems when 3G is being used. Perhaps you could, as a test, try limiting the phone to GSM only and then testing wifi:
start>settings>phone>band – set gsm on both drop down lists.
Mike
Hi Mike thanks for sticking with me on this.
mikechannon said:
Having done a Hard Reset, I would 95% rule out a software issue on the phone (though it is possible with corruption of original data – but a remote possibility I think).
I hesitate to suggest a router factory reset, but it may be worth trying.
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There are a few reasons why I didn't spend more time on the router once I'd established a few things:
1) The adpator actually hangs and it causes abnormal behaviour on the machine. ie. comms manager hangs if you attempt to try to turn off wifi and the spinner comes up. Even more abnormally this causes one of two scenarios, either a) the machine no longer turns off or if you manage to turn off it won't turn on again. So it's causing a major problem with the whole system.
In my experience a no-connect situation never results in a hang, it just times out and a list pops up of other alternative wifi networks it's found and you can always just turn wifi off or use the machine normally at this point.
2) Wifi connects to my router no problem, always has and still will first time from a boot (providing I tried to turn wifi on and it failed before the boot). After a hang and reboot it comes back always connected - doesn't even search, it's a solid non animated connection icon. In other words the card has woken up and therefore has no problems with my router once it's alive.
As an outside chance that the router is getting confused about a disconnect / reconnect I've also rebooted it in between just to make sure - but the router can't tell my machine to hang or fail to respond.
3) I have managed to get this to hang after deleting my settings, ie. stopping it from logging on to my router but rather letting it come up with a list of wifi points it's found. Most of the time the list comes up but after several tests I've confirmed that it does eventually happen. The symptoms are the same when it does. At this point no list appears and we end up with the same deal as in 1)
Having said that I can give the router a try - resetting it isn't too much of a problem as I can backup my configuration but I'm pretty certain it's not the problem bit when problems get wierd then logic sometimes goes out the window and one has to try everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4233158&postcount=20
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I'll follow the registry one just in case but both those threads seem to be from people who can't get a wifi connect at all, usually for s/ware reasons. This is different to my problem which is an abnormal adaptor / system hang caused by accessing wifi.
I am curious about why having the phone enabled causes more crashes. Have there been any phone network changes in your area. It crosses my mind that there have been a few reports of wifi problems when 3G is being used. Perhaps you could, as a test, try limiting the phone to GSM only and then testing wifi:
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I'm curious too. I thought a problem with the radio as a whole but I've tested GPS and bluetooth without any problems, both on plus the phone. I also thought that some kind of power issue. If the voltage to the adapter for some reason dropped below a certain point it would kill it till it was kicked back into life. Just a theory. What would cause this, I've no idea, faulty component, dry joint perhaps.
I also had similar thoughts as you on possible changes to the phone service till I finally found it could hang without the phone too just less. This is like 30% to 95%, but multiple on/ off of the wireless and a couple of machine power offs will get it to happen when the phone is off. It just takes a bit more encouragement.
As for 3G I have mine disabled. I only ever turn it on if I am out and need internet via my service. I got caught out when T-mobile's 3G kicked in, in my area and my battery life went to hell about 18months ago - since then it stays disabled.
EDIT: This may or may not be relevant but I hadn't figured out which situation causes failure turn off. If comms manager is hung after a trying to turn wifi off the machine WILL turn off but not back on again. I just found that one other dialogue that hangs is going into the Wifi settings > network adapters > IEE 802.11b/g wifi adapter. This dialog hangs solid. At this point the off button does nothing. It's a reset. Just a strange reversal but it's also a confirmation that the adapter itself is the problem or has been put into a very nasty state.
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I have a wiress router at home that i used with PDA2k. Surfing net over TKIP-PSK encrypted connection worked fine for many months.
One day, there was some problem connecting or it hung up (dont remember exactly), so i popped out battery and put it back in ... and since that day, i cannot make a TKIP-PSK connection with the phone to anything. If i set up router as OPEN point (no passwd), the f**king phone connects!
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
3. Hard reset phone
4. Reflashed phone with WM2003 and older radio rom.
5. Reflashed WM05
6. Reflashed Wm2003 and latest radio rom
7. Tried different router.
No results!
I live in apartment building and cant leave my router in the open. Other encryption modes supported by PDA2k dont work either.
I DONT GET IT!!! HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SH*T STOPPED WORKING? If some hardware chip died, WIFI wouldnt work at all! But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
Unbelievable sad story. Everything points for some hv failure, but I just don't believe it. Try some more routers.
Try reflashing to older radio ROM. It may help.......
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But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
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The crypto stuff is done on-board the wifi IIRC, so that's possible.
I once heard of people having problems on the phone when using the keyboard for the encyption key. The recommendation was to use the on-screen keyboard to ensure the key is entered correctly. Might be worth a try, but try it with the most basic encryption settings i.e. wep to keep things simple. Make sure you disable EAP in the phone settings.
The problem could be within the storage space within the Wifi hardware. It has it's own registers for the actual settings. If some were in nvram that maintained it's state, then corruption to these would be bad.
A last resort might be to take of the battery for a few days to completely drain the backup battery. If there are any volatile storage areas maintained by this that are not cleared during a hard reset, then a complete power down will reset them. One of the problems with this phone is that you cannot fully switch it off.
Take the last two paragraphs with a pinch of salt; I've never looked into the hardware on these phones in any great detail, so it's all guesswork.
ok , i'll try a full powerdown.
i have windows 2005.
just to confirm : i will only lose the RAMdisk with temp files? the rest of the stuff is in the flash?
Yes, that's correct.
well, i finally got around to draining the backup battery.
any kind of encryption/password authentication over WIFI no longer works.
time to buy a new pda phone.
starik said:
I have a wiress router at home that i used with PDA2k. Surfing net over TKIP-PSK encrypted connection worked fine for many months.
One day, there was some problem connecting or it hung up (dont remember exactly), so i popped out battery and put it back in ... and since that day, i cannot make a TKIP-PSK connection with the phone to anything. If i set up router as OPEN point (no passwd), the f**king phone connects!
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
3. Hard reset phone
4. Reflashed phone with WM2003 and older radio rom.
5. Reflashed WM05
6. Reflashed Wm2003 and latest radio rom
7. Tried different router.
No results!
I live in apartment building and cant leave my router in the open. Other encryption modes supported by PDA2k dont work either.
I DONT GET IT!!! HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SH*T STOPPED WORKING? If some hardware chip died, WIFI wouldnt work at all! But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
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I'm in the same boat with my SX66, the SD slot no longer appears to recognized memory (pny or sandisk). I re-flashed the ROM to factory default and still doesn't recognize memory modules.
How do you drain the backup battery? I haven't done this yet...
Mike
starik said:
well, i finally got around to draining the backup battery.
any kind of encryption/password authentication over WIFI no longer works.
time to buy a new pda phone.
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Did you ever try it with another router at all? Might be worth trying as I didn't notice you mentioning it.
starik said:
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
7. Tried different router.
No results!
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See above;P
Had the same problem with my set(wm5). Did not know why, could not log into my wep network. After hardreset , and leaving the phone alone for 10 mins, it was functional again . Thought i just voice out .
Guys,
I don't know if this is actually a cure yet, but it seems to have worked on my first attempt.
First the background...
When I first got my Kaiser (UK Orange Tytn II) I was at work, I quickly enabled the wifi and all was well. When I got back home later that day I really struggled to get a connection to my access point at home. I connect to a Cisco aironet in both locations (I know there is a post about cisco extensions but I know that is not my problem as I can and have connected to both APs on at least one occasion with no problem).
After deleting wireless settings and a few soft resets I was able to connect at home. I managed to use that wifi connection all night without a problem. Getting back into the office the next day resulted in the same problems connecting to the office access point.
The AP is visible and is 'Available' but doesn't connect automatically. I tried to establish the connection manually, the phone shows the AP as 'Connecting' but shortly after goes back to 'Available'.
I've tried flashing different roms and radios but to no avail.
Last night I got to thinking that I generally connect to my AP, browse the web, sync mail etc, but I don't switch off the wifi when I am finished. I just let the phone go into standby as that shuts the wifi off anyway. So to try something different last night, I disabled wifi once I had finished.
This morning, when I got into the office, I enabled wifi and for the first time it connected immediately and I'm browsing on it just fine. This leads me to believe that there is a problem when the wifi is enabled and the phone is is standby mode for a considerable length of time and then is woken up in a totally different location.
I'll test again tonight by disabling the wifi before I leave the office and hopefully I'll get an instant connection when I get home.
Any thoughts?
I get the same thing for work and cannt connect even though it says available, and then connected.
Tried your approach but didnt work for me.
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I get the same thing for work and cannt connect even though it says available, and then connected.
Tried your approach but didnt work for me.
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Of course that might be due to any number of factors. Have you ever been able to connect at your office?
i've had issues with my orange (uk) tytnII actually wanting to make a GPRS connection whilst connected to WiFi when i try and go online.
I connect at work using a program called Odyssey and eventually got that working yesterday, but had to turn off most other connectivity before it'd actually use the WiFi.
then I was at a pub later on with a free wifi hot spot, but that wouldn't connect despite it being 'available'
YAY!
Well...
I retested my theory. Disabled the wireless before I left the office. Got home, enabled it and I connected with no issues.
So there is a problem with having the wifi on when the phone goes into standby and it then waking up in a totally different location.
I wonder if WM6.1 addresses this. I hope so because although I have a work around, its still a pain in the a$$
I had similar problems on my Wizard... never had anything like that on my Kaiser.
DarkDvr said:
I had similar problems on my Wizard... never had anything like that on my Kaiser.
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Could you tell me what radio you are using?
foobar1977 said:
Could you tell me what radio you are using?
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ROM: DualTouch v3 (dutty's v3)
Radio: 1.27.11.31
No problems with it.. no missed calls, calls come through fine when I'm on HSDPA.. no wifi problems so far.
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ROM: DualTouch v3 (dutty's v3)
Radio: 1.27.11.31
No problems with it.. no missed calls, calls come through fine when I'm on HSDPA.. no wifi problems so far.
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Thanks, I might give that a go when I get a chance.
My problem is similiar. If I connect to a certain access point, it will stop working after a minute or so and then not be able connect to that access point or any other one, they are just listed as available. Strange...
Firstly set your wifi power to max.
Secondly, my orange Tytn2 (now dutty v3'd) has never had that problem.
I leave navizon on a lot of the time and thus enter and leave wifi zones frequently with wifi on and my device connects fine to the regular ones I use.
Wi-fi connection
Hi unwired,
I've been surfing this site, but unable to find an answer yet, a newbie that I am. Is there a way to define one network as default? Anytime I want to connect, I have to do it manually, and define settins, rather than just switch it on, connect automatically and fire away. This is how it works on my laptop, or I have to high expectations from the Kaiser?
Thanks in advance.
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Firstly set your wifi power to max.
Secondly, my orange Tytn2 (now dutty v3'd) has never had that problem.
I leave navizon on a lot of the time and thus enter and leave wifi zones frequently with wifi on and my device connects fine to the regular ones I use.
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This is nothing to do with power settings, or at least not for me or several other people I have spoken to. Its generally not a problem when the wifi is on, its after the device has gone into suspend.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that if I set the reg hack so the wifi is always on I wont have this problem but I can't deal with the battery drain.
Just this morning I was connected to my office wifi, went for lunch without switching off the wifi first and when I got back I was longer able to connect to the same access point.
I then deleted the settings for the access point, soft reset and I'm connected again (even if I switch to low power).
To say that this pi$$es me off is an understatement, what kind of wireless device cant handle waking up in a different location to the one it went to sleep in!?
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This is nothing to do with power settings, or at least not for me or several other people I have spoken to. Its generally not a problem when the wifi is on, its after the device has gone into suspend.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that if I set the reg hack so the wifi is always on I wont have this problem but I can't deal with the battery drain.
Just this morning I was connected to my office wifi, went for lunch without switching off the wifi first and when I got back I was longer able to connect to the same access point.
I then deleted the settings for the access point, soft reset and I'm connected again (even if I switch to low power).
To say that this pi$$es me off is an understatement, what kind of wireless device cant handle waking up in a different location to the one it went to sleep in!?
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I have had similar problems. I get disco'ed from my AP at home and it won't let me re-connect. Jut keeps asking for the WPA2 key.
I use the same remedy as you. Turn off Wifi Before walking out of range. No amount of Softreset's fix it for me.
Although, some ROM's work better than others. ie Alex's WM6 ROM would not connect at all, the ROM / Radio in my sig are perfect so far.
P.S. This might also be tied to my router, cause a router reset fixes it for me. But i doubt work will let you try that
DaveShaw said:
Although, some ROM's work better than others. ie Alex's WM6 ROM would not connect at all, the ROM / Radio in my sig are perfect so far.
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Yeah I'm really hoping that this is fixed in WM6.1 which, if your experience is anything to go by, might well be the case. I really wanted to wait for the official 6.1, but I feel a flash of Duttys 6.1 coming on real soon.
Hello all,
Here's the problem. When I go to activate the wifi through comm manager, the button turns off, sometimes it hangs (clock showing) for 6 seconds, sometimes pressing over and over it will not turn. it will turn on for a .5 sec then go right off. At the times when it does turn on, the button below (GPRS or data..I think) will come on as well. There's a big "E" with the signal to the right, and then the little "e" on the top of the today screen will start bugging out with 2 small arrows on it I guess searching for a gprs connection..and a message saying the following:"connecting to media.net" or "connecting to att isp GPRS, connecting to ATT 3g" and "wap.cingular..cannot connect for unknown reason..yada yada yada" the popup messages drive me crazy I want to smash the phone to the floor. but no wifi.
My account has neither gprs or 3G and i'm sick and tired of it searching for it. I click the dismiss/hide button but it just comes right back on bombarding me with these popup messages over and over. Once in a while it will turn on but for a short time to the point it won't connect to the wifi spot, and over and over we go. Skyfire gives me "can't connect to server", and opera comes up, but by the time it does, the wifi button turn off. It's not even getting to the point of connecting to the coffee place. why is it looking for GPRS when all I want is free wifi? All I want to do is check my email once in a while. I live overseas by the way. I did do a clean restart many times but it doesn't fix the problem. I won't flash a new rom as I'm a bit worried so please to offer/recommend. The phone never fell to the floor so I don't think it's the issue. Anyway to configure it to stop searching for GPRS/3G? maybe I did something wrong in the kaiser tweak settings..?
This is an att phone ROM 1.57.502.2 ROM date 8/25/07 RADIO 1.27.12.11
PROTOCOL 22.45.88.07H
I've had the phone for about 2 years and the last 8 months or so it's given me the problems listed. I never took the time to deal with it, but I'm just fed up to the point I will never buy an HTC device again if I can't solve the problem.
any help appreciated..
BTW, on the right side of the phone the crack (between the screen and keyboard) is unusually large and has some play to it. Even though I hardly ever use the
keyboard/sliding mechanism.
Also, nice look to the forum. A much needed overhaul IMO.
Help please...
I have a similar issue, and I am blaming the age of the device for it's inability to connect to my wireless network at home. At work, it has no bother as the wireless gear is of a higher spec.
wow thats a lot of information in just 3 paragraphs! what i'm trying to say is that you've described the situation well but you haven't mentioned any steps you've taken to try to solve the problem.
first, if you don't pay for a data connection (3G, GPRS, etc), then you can disable the data connection using "modaco nodata". essentially, this will disable the data connection so that the phone never attempts to use it.
next, you need to clarify how long it has been since you last performed a "hard reset". if it has been ages since the last hard reset, back up all your data (messages, contacts, call history, photos, videos, music, etc, etc) and give that ***** a hard reset!
what the above will accomplish is TWO things:
1. it will reset the device and its software to "factory condition", hence the need to back up all your data and to be prepared to reinstall all your programs and settings and configurations.
2. more importantly, the hard reset will help rule out or confirm the possibility of a hardware failure.
lets talk more about number 2 above. if the problem is purely software related (windows has gone bad/corrupt, some registry settings are bad/corrupt, etc, etc), then hard resetting will fix it certainly. if the problem stems from a hardware issue, then the problem will persist after the hard reset.
thus, the hard reset step will direct you and the rest of us in a definite direction to try to solve the problem.
if you have already tried a hard reset, you should update your first post to reflect this fact. it is good practice to give as much information as possible if you need help troubleshooting an issue.
do let us know what happens and good luck!
ASCIIker said:
wow thats a lot of information in just 3 paragraphs! what i'm trying to say is that you've described the situation well but you haven't mentioned any steps you've taken to try to solve the problem.
first, if you don't pay for a data connection (3G, GPRS, etc), then you can disable the data connection using "modaco nodata". essentially, this will disable the data connection so that the phone never attempts to use it.
next, you need to clarify how long it has been since you last performed a "hard reset". if it has been ages since the last hard reset, back up all your data (messages, contacts, call history, photos, videos, music, etc, etc) and give that ***** a hard reset!
what the above will accomplish is TWO things:
1. it will reset the device and its software to "factory condition", hence the need to back up all your data and to be prepared to reinstall all your programs and settings and configurations.
2. more importantly, the hard reset will help rule out or confirm the possibility of a hardware failure.
lets talk more about number 2 above. if the problem is purely software related (windows has gone bad/corrupt, some registry settings are bad/corrupt, etc, etc), then hard resetting will fix it certainly. if the problem stems from a hardware issue, then the problem will persist after the hard reset.
thus, the hard reset step will direct you and the rest of us in a definite direction to try to solve the problem.
if you have already tried a hard reset, you should update your first post to reflect this fact. it is good practice to give as much information as possible if you need help troubleshooting an issue.
do let us know what happens and good luck!
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Nice Post number
will try the "modaco nodata" patch and also I did do a hard reset about 4 months ago. though the problem was before that as well.
I'll have to backup and dod a HR then i'll update any problems. Thanks for now
Had my phone for a few months now and recently found that it can't connect to my secure network at home.
When I turn wifi on I get the dreaded connect/disconnect message while it constantly tries to connect to my network. If I leave it on then the battery will drain overnight while the phone tries to connect. I have an iphone which connects to the network no problem. As does my laptop etc
To try to fix this I deleted all my new apps, especially the push ones which give me news updates, etc but this has made no difference.
The weird thing is if I turn off my router's security then the phone will connect and works perfectly fine. I've tried using all the different security settings (even WPS) with new passwords etc and everything seems to setup fine on the phone except it just doesn't want to connect (or more accurately stays connected for a microsecond).
If I go back to an open network it connects immediately and stays connected.
I think this is the root cause of the wifi connection problems that many other people are getting. But I'm at a loss to try to understand why it won't pick up a secure network but works fine otherwise.
My phone is using 2.2.1 and has been rooted
Any thoughts?
I think this is the root cause of the wifi connection problems that many other people are getting. But I'm at a loss to try to understand why it won't pick up a secure network but works fine otherwise.
My phone is using 2.2.1 and has been rooted
Root the problem highly unlikely ..
Secure home network test .
Remove security from Router that is no password .
Remove that connection from phone .
Reboot phone let it pick up router and connect .
If it does then delete reset router password and add in phone .
jje
Thanks for suggested fix. I'll give it a go and let you know if it worked.
Root was a bad choice of word..... I meant that while looking for a solution to my wifi problem I noticed many other people complaining that they can't connect to a wifi network for one reason or another and I was thinking that maybe broken security is a common cause of many wifi connection issues.. In my case there was nothing physical at all to suggest that security was an issue, especially since all my other devices work fine on the same network.
Cheers
Hi, tried your suggestion but I still cant connect. The first time I rebooted the phone it knocked out my internet connection! I've setup a static IP address for my PC and the phone was insisting on trying to connect using the same address and creating a conflict. I fixed that so that's not the issue.
This is what I've tried..
I checked to make sure DHCP was enabled in the router, rebooted everything. No luck.
I tried adding an IP Address Reservation for the phone and assigning a dedicated static IP Address. No luck either
I tried connecting the device using WPS. It all went as it should - my router saw the device, added the mac address to the list of devices etc. The phone acknowledged the handshake. But again it still wont connect.
I checked the router log and it says "DHCP IP: (192.168.1.2)] to MAC address B4:07:F9:336:3D, Tuesday, May 24,2011 03:08:48" which I think is what it should say.
OK I've just fixed it!!! Or at least its connected.
All along I've been securing the network with WPA2-PSK. I just changed it to WEP and the phone connected immediately. I hadn't considered WEP because I read that its not that secure and I do all my banking etc through my PC.
I've tried all the other security options and only WEP works with the phone. I suspect its a compatibility problem between the phone and my router (a Netgear WNT834B v2) because both the phone and router work independently but not very well together. There's plenty of posts discussing the Galaxy S connecting to WPA networks so it can do it.
Now, after trying all the other security options. It won't connect again even on WEP. Bummer. It is acting slightly differently in that its trying to acquire an IP address instead of simply not connecting, although it doesn't seem to be able to find one.
I need to try this on a friends network and see if the router or the phone is to blame. I've no idea... but the phone's a bit too touchy for my liking
I had a similar issue, I had to reflash the ROM to get it to work. Backup all your contacts and stuff and then do a full factory resetting. See if that helps, if it doesnt, reflash the ROM. It should work.
Well I've spent the last few days looking into this issue and it's considerably more widespread than I first realised. The problem is that while many people have a wifi connection issue we all seem to have variations on a theme.
As I say in my case the phone will connect and stay connected to an open network but won't touch a secure one. I tried many suggested fixes and nothing's worked so I am now trying a factory reset.
A couple of questions: there appears to be two ways to do this, a factory data reset through the phone menu; and a hard reset using a combination of volume buttons, etc. The hard reset seems to be the deeper of the two.
When you say full factory setting which one did you mean? I am currently data resetting and therefore using the "authorised" Samsung reset
But how long does this process take? My phone has had a black screen and been vibrating every 10 seconds or so for the last hour. It's getting quite hot and there appears to be no end in sight. Has the phone hung or something? If it has how do I get out of this without bricking the phone? It's beginning to concern me because I'll have to do something real soon.
As an aside, in my search for a solution I found something that might help someone people (it didn't work for me). According to the bloke who posted it, the problem for everyone is that the wifi drivers have not been installed properly and if you enter *#*#526#*#* on your keypad it unlocks a service access that reinstalls the wifi driver. I tried it and the phone told me the software was installed successfully but no change.
Waited long enough so pulled the battery out and restarted the phone. I get the startup screen but after that the screen goes black and it vibrates again every ten secs and I can't get in.
Have to try the other reset.....
Things are going from bad to worse..
Have managed to start a full factory reset using the volume, power and home button but it's gone back into the black screen and vibrating every ten seconds.
I know Im going off topic here but Ive now reset the phone, wiped the cache, tried to apply the sd card update (aborted because it can't find the directory) and it always comes back to the black screen and vibrating every ten secs.
Am now trying to reflash the rom. Oden reports that the flash was successful but the phone wont reboot. I tried a couple of times - one with Re-Partion checked and the other unchecked but neither will reboot. What could be causing that? I somehow remember that my firmware was JPH but I could only get hold of JPK. Could that be the cause?
I seem to have solved all the issues at last. Thought it was going to be a bit over my head for a spell.
Once I discovered that the only way I was going to get into my phone was by flashing the rom the first problem I came across was I didn't know which firmware my phone was using previously, apart from the fact it was 2.2.1 and from Asia. I guessed wrongly and after "successfully" flashing the phone it wouldn't reboot. I then noticed that there were only three variations of the 2.2.1 firmware for my region. The second one I tried went a little further than the first but I got an error message about the SD card. The third one installed no problem.
So I instantly checked the wifi signal and the phone connected to the secured network. And stays connected - so far about an hour and a half.
It's amazing how the phone deteriorated the way it did. Hope it doesn't do it again.
Thanks for any help/suggestions
I've tested this with a3.5, Xron and Miui and they all get this problem. Maybe installing certain apps trigger this to happen but wifi will eventually slow down when trying to connect to a signal and will be essentially non functional since the OS will basically freeze and then tell you to force close wifi and it requires a wipe and fresh install to fix.
Has anyone else run into this problem?
Check this and see if it helps you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20863566&postcount=14
StEVO_M said:
Check this and see if it helps you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20863566&postcount=14
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I don't think its the same issue. In those instances you can still try to change which wifi signal you want to connect to, I think it just loops from connecting and it would disconnect. I think this issue is common and dropped connections occur as well.
But I'm talking about a situation where if you even try to enter the wifi options it will force close.
iamsamsamiam said:
I don't think its the same issue. In those instances you can still try to change which wifi signal you want to connect to, I think it just loops from connecting and it would disconnect. I think this issue is common and dropped connections occur as well.
But I'm talking about a situation where if you even try to enter the wifi options it will force close.
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Before I changed it, it would take forever to get it to release the connection. I just kept hitting "Wait" rather than "Force close" it would take several minutes but would eventually come up and allow me to Forget the network.
It sure sounds like the same, not saying it is, but very similar.
I experienced this problem for the first time yesterday in area where was about 20 WIFI networks. Never ever it happened in my house on A2. A3 A3.5 or XRON2.8
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13779-now-i-believe-that-there-is-wifi-problem/
I have the same issue today, Wifi setting is forced to close, and cannot connect to any Wifi signals. I think it's a bug and it related to the time or date. Because I didn't do anything and it just happened.
No new apps install, no setting changed, and the device was keep on, so it just happens.
Hope someone can find out where the problem is...so sad this happen on New Year's eve....
i have this problem also, the solution i found was letting the touchpad go dead and than begin to connect wifi again.
Similar wifi comments here: rebooting [or maybe toggling/other disconnect] with wifi on/remembered would get it into a state where it was scanning and connecting over and over without really ever working. this was only happening once it was 'remembered'. Going through the wifi settings to forget in this state involved hitting 'wait' a few times and then i'd reboot and readd. 1st wifi connect is always solid for me.
I've found: market.android.com/details?id=com.brilliapps.wifiandmorefixer
Does the same thing except it is one click. I rebooted after the first go, but now no longer. i run this and then readd wifi - all set.