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Necessary installs w/ new ROM?

This site is amazing! I'm brand new to to smart phones and customizing anything like them and I want to try to learn as much as I can before I commit to anything like changing the ROM. I just got an ATT Tilt and stumbled on this website. I spent 3 hours last night reading threads, but I still have questions. I also have a 10 month old daughter who requires constant supervision so having that much time again to read anything isn't very likely. My questions are:
1. Is the newest ROM on this site the best one to go with?
2. If so I noticed something in the thread about the time and date. If I don't change the registry, which I don't know how to do, does the date not show up, if I install this ROM?
3. Other than the keyboard fix, are there any other necessary things I'll need to fix?
4. Will the 3g still work? I saw the answer posted to this question, but all I found was the explanation of what and where the 3g was.
Thanks in advance for your responses and I apologize if these are repeat questions, but like I mentioned I read everything I could on this site and I guess I just don't understand everything. Sorry for the long post. Thanks again.

I'm not sure which rom your talking about. I didn't have any problems with time, in terms of registry tweeking, with the Dutty 6.1 rom. The date and time shows with that, but all you have to do is change the setting, as in 12 hour format or 24 and so on.
Number 3 is best left to someone whos more knowledgable than me.
Regarding number 4. 3g worked with my phone when I used Dutty's Rom with a Polaris Radio and all.
I'm sure what threads you've read, but here are the ones that helped me out. 98% of my questions were answered with the following threads and links within.
Rom Flashing Faq for Newbies
White Screen Method
List of Kaiser Roms
Radios
If you do go with Dutty's rom, then read this Wiki
This last link is THE best place to start.

Thanks a lot. I had read all those threads last night, but it was a lot to take in at one time. I just wanted to make sure I was doing everything right. I think I'm going to use Dutty's (WM6.1) and I read the wiki you were talking about, but why did you choose the radio that you did?

The radio you choose depends on your location, usage, and device... make sure you use a radio that's compatible with WM6.1 if you're going to flash Dutty's Rom. Check my signature for the ROM i use, I'm from Manchester in UK and it works well for me.
Although... don't rush in to flashing you're phone, as you've stated you are new to smartphones and customizing... it's not very difficult, but pre-mature flashing is what causes people to end up with bricked devices...

ncpick1 said:
Thanks a lot. I had read all those threads last night, but it was a lot to take in at one time. I just wanted to make sure I was doing everything right. I think I'm going to use Dutty's (WM6.1) and I read the wiki you were talking about, but why did you choose the radio that you did?
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To be honest, I dont remember the deciding factor, but I know it had to do with other peoples oppinion, US residents (for signals issues and what not), and a thread that had to do with Roms.

NOOB question on upgrading radios?

I was looking at the stickies and it showed all different types of radios. Some say WWE and others say UK. Now I was looking at people's signatures and some have the UK with the ROM I use. Does that mean it only works in the UK? I live in Hawaii and yes we are part of the U.S. as the 50th State and no we do not live in grass shacks and yes we have electricity and Internet and no I'm not Hawaiian and yes i get asked these questions all the time. anyways I have Dutty's WM6.1 5.2.19199 ROM and I was thinking of going with 1.64.08.21 because of the review. I couldn't find on Dutty's 5.2.19199 thread which radios are compatible. I don't have any problems with sound but I wanted to see if it will help with my signal.

blkdrgn said:
I was looking at the stickies and it showed all different types of radios. Some say WWE and others say UK. Now I was looking at people's signatures and some have the UK with the ROM I use. Does that mean it only works in the UK? I live in Hawaii and yes we are part of the U.S. as the 50th State and no we do not live in grass shacks and yes we have electricity and Internet and no I'm not Hawaiian and yes i get asked these questions all the time. anyways I have Dutty's WM6.1 5.2.19199 ROM and I was thinking of going with 1.64.08.21 because of the review. I couldn't find on Dutty's 5.2.19199 thread which radios are compatible. I don't have any problems with sound but I wanted to see if it will help with my signal.
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You can flash just about any radio for Win 6.1 except 1, check the first 2 post of Dutty's post where he posted the rom and it should give you all the information you need.

just make sure u flash a 6.1 compatible radio...as for signal u just have to try to see which one is best for ur location or ask if theres any other ppl in ur area

1.64.08.21 is a good radio and will work just about anywhere in the world. The reason so many people have different radios is because in different places in the world will get different results from radio to radio. I suggest you experiment with different radios and see which ones give you better battery life and signal and data and GPS lock. I personally like the Niki radio 1.58.16.27.

Thanks guys. I had a hard time figuring what Radio meant. I first i thought it was for listening to songs.
what would be good is a master list of the geographical areas and the Radio versions that people tried in that area. then have it show the signal strength results. that way noobies and people moving to new locations can just pick instead of trying over 10+ different versions. hmm, maybe that's too much work.

blkdrgn said:
Thanks guys. I had a hard time figuring what Radio meant. I first i thought it was for listening to songs.
what would be good is a master list of the geographical areas and the Radio versions that people tried in that area. then have it show the signal strength results. that way noobies and people moving to new locations can just pick instead of trying over 10+ different versions. hmm, maybe that's too much work.
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Yeah. That would be nice but, yes, way to much work. You won't find a huge difference between most radios. The most common radios used are the best. I think you're thinking a little too much in to it. My radio is my favorite. I use a radio for a day and compare to the day before with the last radio and then try the next. I've gone through 10-12 radios and most have very little difference. Just make sure you use one that is compatable with wm6.1 which is what I think you have.

That I will have to disagree with... I have not been able to find a WM6.1 radio that will send MMS correctly in my area yet!!!
I am in South Florida, West Palm Beach to be exact. I have HSPDA and still no WM6.1 radio works with MMS here. I send an MMS and it takes over 3 hours to get to the recipient.....
Therefore, I am stuck with WM6.0 as of right now....

ryncppr said:
That I will have to disagree with... I have not been able to find a WM6.1 radio that will send MMS correctly in my area yet!!!
I am in South Florida, West Palm Beach to be exact. I have HSPDA and still no WM6.1 radio works with MMS here. I send an MMS and it takes over 3 hours to get to the recipient.....
Therefore, I am stuck with WM6.0 as of right now....
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It's not the radio that's causing your MMS problems. It's the ROM. Or more accurately, your MMS client. The MMS client sends and receives your MMS. You can find out what MMS software you have by going into messages then MMS. Press menu, then go to "MMS Options." Under 'about' you'll find the version number and make. It's probably arcsoft. If you have version 5, your problem may then lie in network or MMS settings. Some wm6.1 ROMS do not have a good MMS program. Dutty's last few releases have had a great one. I suggest you try Dutty's latest. Make sure you use the connection setup to automatically set-up your MMS and data settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383638

I am trying Dutty's Latest rom 6.1 based on the ATT 19209 version. There is still a delay .
I didn't think it was the radio as I am able to make calls, and send regular text messages just have a long delay receiving and sending MMS ????

I am running the base at&t rom 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09. are there any other radios I can install to test for improvement of my signal or do I have to flash another rom version?

logikal110 said:
I am running the base at&t rom 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09. are there any other radios I can install to test for improvement of my signal or do I have to flash another rom version?
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This is a bit more complicated AT$T Stock ROMs requires Special AT$T Radios. They are listed as such in the Radio Information Thread.

JimmyMcGee said:
This is a bit more complicated AT$T Stock ROMs requires Special AT$T Radios. They are listed as such in the Radio Information Thread.
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That and you'll need Hard-SPL to flash a non at&t radio and rom. Search the forums for it and do a lot of researching before your first flash. A lot of researching. Flashing is very easy but you'll run into problems and have many questions if you don't research.
Read the Wiki completely and once you get near the bottom of the wiki you'll find "Available Extracted Radio Upgrade Only " which will contain many of the available radios. Find one that's at&t and download it.
Here is the Kaiser Wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

Noob with ???

First, this is a great site and I have looked at many threads. But I still need some help.
I got a sd card (4G) and started moving some file to the card like the owners manual said. But I guess I moved something I shouldn't as my phone went crazy. It wouldn't get a service signal and among other things.
So I preformed a HardReset and reset the phone. But that seemed to cause the same problem. So I researched the web awhile and read of an update for moble 6, so i downloaded and flashed my phone. Now the problem is that I can't perform a HardReset.
My ??? are:
What can I do to fix this?
And without getting a cooked ROM, are there any good "cab's" that would improve my phone?

ummmm i dunno of any actual cabs.... But why not a "lite" custom rom? since it sounds like your looking for memory.

I wasn't planning on a Rom, because I read that it voids the warrenty. But after finding out that my warrenty has expired and t-mobile won't do anything. Are there any current Roms that are good. Must have internet sharing.

I currently use OpenTouch Project 7.7 Lite, Its been smooth running with lots of free memory... But it doesnt have Internet sharing...I do believe that a CAB can be downloaded to get that option though.... itll just take me a bit to find a good one... If you want I can look. However...... I KNOW that ITsPapaBlack 6.1v2 has it as I have used it.... But I believe there are some windows vista isues

I think I know where to look to get the cab for internet sharing, but would I have to input the information that t-mobile put on the phone. Or would it be already on it with the cab? As for OpenTouch Project 7.7, where could I find info about it?

Her ya go man.... All OTP 7.7 Roms thats a link to the downloads... as for info TTrans OTP 7.7 Thread. And btw ANY info you need on the mo network is available via their website. you can get step by step walkthroughs on how to setup the network. but the OTP 7.7 has a network setup wizards so it should do it all for ya!

I believe most ROMs have the network wizard built in, so you should be fine. As far as light ROMs go, there's a few (most of my ROMs are lite, too.) If you want ultimate in space and RAM, JustME or Just2Clean might be a good choice. (70MB FREE of storage.) But really your best bet is to try different ones and see which ones you like best. Try a little opentouch, a little itspapa's, a little just's, etc and see what you like best.

Not to hijack a thread but I have tried the OpenTouch ROMs and I notice that the MS Direct Push is no longer available. Is that due to Office 6.1 not being loaded in that ROM?
Lance

Thanx for your input. I think I'll try a few to see how they work and which one fits my needs. Right now I am trying out some .cab's and picking the ones that helps.

Oh, and do any of those ROM's ha Internet Sharing? If not, I take it that I'll have to install a .cab. But if I do that, do I have to input the information so I can use it. This is important as IS is my only internet access. Thanx.

Not sure as I only use my own ROM. I know that my most of my newer ROMs have it and as long as you run the network wizard (which runs automatically on my ROMs) then it will work without any settings having to be inputed. Just read up on the ROM's thread and you'll find out if a particular ROM has it or not.

Well I had to send my wing back as the OK button was broken so I'm trying to acquire a new one. However I flashed the 7.5 of Open Touch and noticed that it wasn't there...I'll look around for the network wizard as I've been reading all the threads and didn't see anything on that. May I ask what ROM you run? When I get a new one I'll flash that and see what I get.
Thanks
Lance

Robertsonland said:
Well I had to send my wing back as the OK button was broken so I'm trying to acquire a new one. However I flashed the 7.5 of Open Touch and noticed that it wasn't there...I'll look around for the network wizard as I've been reading all the threads and didn't see anything on that. May I ask what ROM you run? When I get a new one I'll flash that and see what I get.
Thanks
Lance
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I run a modified version of my own Just2Clean. (It was a test built but I haven't had a chance to change it in a while.)

JUst2Clean
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Not sure as I only use my own ROM. I know that my most of my newer ROMs have it and as long as you run the network wizard (which runs automatically on my ROMs) then it will work without any settings having to be inputed. Just read up on the ROM's thread and you'll find out if a particular ROM has it or not.
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Ok, thanx. I do believe I took a quick look at your Just2Clean. So I think I look at it more in-depth.

Yeah I was thinking of looking at the Just2Clean and the JustMe ROM I think. youmanmike, if you load it up let me know what you think of it. I just bought a new wing on Ebay tonight so hopefully when it gets here I'll be able to flash it. I'd like to hear what you think about the ROM you go with.
Lance

Well youman mike.... looks like ya got plenty of info... Ive yet use any of the "Just" ROMS but I DO plan on making my own ROM eventually.... so his cooking class may help me! I start 3rd shift next week Ivan.... I may start you classes then =) Hopefully youll be around to answer my silly questions =P Let us know what ROM you flash and how it goes youmanmike!

ROM??? Looking at Manilla
I still haven't figured out what ROM to use. I kind of got side track on Manilla. I like the way it looks and from what I've read it sounds like it works good also. Now I'm trying to figure out how to use/install it. LOL

Are some ROM's faster than others? Trying to get rid of my bugs

Guys I am pretty new to this so I am turning the falme suit on...
The last time i tried to install some ROM i was constantly runnign into problems.
The only rom that I was able to get to work is that 5 tab menu screen with the digital clock as the background. Which I love. But i want something new.
My phone has been doing crazy things lately. For one thing, it is extremely slow. When i slide the phone open or closed, the rotation is slow and "laggy". When i open the screen to send text messages the screen is messed up.
Now the phone consistantly drops the calls after about 3 mins of talking.
When I answer the phone(incoming calls) using the speaker phone, the caller can't hear me.
I would like to have one of those Radio ROM,s so that I can listean to the radio occationally.
Can you help me find a ROM to suit my needs and fix my problems?
I have searched. I have read the "stickey" post, I have watched that video of that guys from "my tilt site" but I still can't get a new rom installed and can't fix my problems

I suspect you need to experiment with different radios. If you go to the Roms forum then check out the any mentions of your model and location in the Ultimate Radio Thread and check out any mentions of what radios are good in the thread for the rom you're trying. If you find a radio that's recommended in both then that's a good bet

start with the official HTC 3.34 rom (the one with the 1.70 radio version), its fast enough for most things. then move on to other roms like anryls or the recent wm 6.5 beta roms if you really want fast.

Thanks for your replies. Do I have to delete my current ROM before I can install a new ROM?
I tried the HTC Diamond album.cab ROM and the keyboard speed up ROM and neither worked

Please go to ROM section and read noobs flashin guide it's a sticky "sorry can't provide link as using mini"

bigmansm said:
Thanks for your replies. Do I have to delete my current ROM before I can install a new ROM?
I tried the HTC Diamond album.cab ROM and the keyboard speed up ROM and neither worked
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Man, you really are a noob! those are not roms, those are registry entry cabs and programs. you ha e a lot of learning to do before you should attempt a rom flash. a rom changes the entire look and feel of your phones operating system.

depends on a lot of things radio you use programs you have on there how old your device is how old your battery is how much power is in it its a bit like how long is a pice of string

Best Tmobile radio?

Ive tried many different roms and many different radios and still havent found one that works great. most of the problems i have is with the keyboard for some reason on certain radios my keyboard will lag and different keys will not work all the time. and the weird thing is that if i change the radio it changes what keys work and dont work. i recently tried the newest rom and radio released on the htc website and that didnt help. another question can i download the rom for the htc tytn 2 from the website and flash it on a att tilt? thanks again for the help

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Ive tried many different roms and many different radios and still havent found one that works great. most of the problems i have is with the keyboard for some reason on certain radios my keyboard will lag and different keys will not work all the time. and the weird thing is that if i change the radio it changes what keys work and dont work. i recently tried the newest rom and radio released on the htc website and that didnt help. another question can i download the rom for the htc tytn 2 from the website and flash it on a att tilt? thanks again for the help
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Sometimes you need to change language when flashing certain roms diffrent from stock, if not match youre HK will be remaped to whatever the flashed ROM tells it todo . Example:
I am Norwegian so I have to change Curlang to 414 (414 Hex, 1044 Dec). I do this by searching up Curlang in my register (should be in: HKLM/Hardware/Devicemap/Keybd), then I Soft Reset. DONE! My Keyboard is now supporting ÆØÅ and all the oter keys and so on, just as I am used to on Norwegian Shipped/Stok Roms.
There are floating alot of curlang cabs for the diffrent phones in here, dig in or perhaps someone will post it for you.

its not just the mapping its just the keyboard wont type a letter unless i press it like 3 or 4 times. and im pretty sure its the radio and not the keyboard because if i change the radio different keys are effected. i no it sounds weird but im sure its not the keyboard or the mappings

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its not just the mapping its just the keyboard wont type a letter unless i press it like 3 or 4 times. and im pretty sure its the radio and not the keyboard because if i change the radio different keys are effected. i no it sounds weird but im sure its not the keyboard or the mappings
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I would deffently reflash to stock ROM asap! If its not rom/radio related I would suspect you got some fluid under HK? By the way you say diffrent (like in random?) keys ad affected makes me suspect its HW related if its really not as simple as radio. The remap should be the same on same country ROM`s for you, and the mapping is done in the register. If its radio related, you whole device should act strange and dodgy IMO.

ya i get what ur saying but when i use my gfs att sim card she doesnt have any problems only with my tmobile sim card

crackzattic said:
ya i get what ur saying but when i use my gfs att sim card she doesnt have any problems only with my tmobile sim card
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Kinda relevant information, you shoulda sticked in there first place my friend Tmobile I have no experience on radio to share. Think you need to dig into radio treads as its probobly then as youreself concluded radio related. Just try combine diffrent roms -> radio until you find a good match then take notes of the given radio. I would also search more for other Tmobile comments on radio issues from the memebers.
Dont know how updated this is but belive you can take it for a spin: [4 December] The Ultimate Radio Thread

i have searched and it seems like noone has shared their tmobile radio experiences. ive been fooling with this phone all night and i may have a conclusion. i used jockeyw's unlock method and i believe my hardspl isnt upgraded to the 3.29 or 3.56 like the new roms require. i have tried to upgrade and still wont change my bootloader info. on my tricolored screen the 2nd line says "SPL-1.0.OliPof" which i am assuming is SPL1.0 not SPL 3.29. this is very frustrating because i cant change it no matter what hardspl i do. i even tried this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061 and it still didnt help. i think this is all the info i can come up with i hope someone can help

Some SPL Wiki reading called for
crackzattic said:
i used jockeyw's unlock method and i believe my hardspl isnt upgraded to the 3.29 or 3.56 like the new roms require.
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So if you're using a Windows Mobile 6.0 compatible SPL (version 1.xx) with a WM 6.1 ROM that can give a host of problems, including freezing. I used this SPL Questions part of the wiki to change from the OliPof 1.0 SPL to a HTC 1.93 SPL the other day and using JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe it worked fine so there's something you're not doing right. If you describe what happened after you tapped Kermit, (including any RUU error messages) it may help us diagnose whats going on. I suggest you re-read that part of the wiki as well as this is getting a bit spoon-feeding-ish (which xda-dev is not about).

I have Hard SPL 3.56 and use KAIS_Radio_1.70.18.02 with PDA_Corner Ultimate X Beta II (ROM). My average download speed via tethering is now about 27 KB/s. It used to be only about 20 to 22 KB/s. Also make sure that you install the Tilt keyboard fix cab that is on the WIKI page if you are using a Kaiser ROM on an AT&T Tilt.