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Hero rom question!

I have Drizzy's Personal Hero rom and its ridiculously slow and laggy compared to Cyan3.9.10... Just wondering if theres a way to make it any faster.
I read you could install swapper and overclocker from the market and that would make it faster but then i read that it would brick your phone?
Also Drizzys Personal hero didnt come with some of the htc widgets like stocks and contacts, is there somewhere i can download those from?

double post. sorry

pretty much nothing will be anywhere near as fast as cyanogenmod. that's what his rom is know for really.
don't run overclock or the swapper applications from the market on any of drizzys heros. swapper is automatic on it. you need a linux-swap partition on your sd card and that will REALLLLLLy speed it up.
also, if you want all the htc widgets, get the FULL hero off his page. his personal is customized to his (and coincidentally, my) liking, so he got rid of exchange, widgets he didn't use, etc.
none of the builds on his current thread are fully optimized either. he's going to wait till he gets all the bugs and kinks out before he fully optimizes it. when it's fully optimized, it'll run faster and more stable.

grandomegabosses said:
pretty much nothing will be anywhere near as fast as cyanogenmod. that's what his rom is know for really.
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It's not so much that Cyanogenmod and other stock builds are fast so much that builds with Sense are slow. Stock builds run at baseline speed-- that which any non-standard builds should be compared to.

jashsu said:
It's not so much that Cyanogenmod and other stock builds are fast so much that builds with Sense are slow. Stock builds run at baseline speed-- that which any non-standard builds should be compared to.
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true. very true. my statement was a VAST exaggeration

I quit running jac or drizzy's because of the lag. If you really want hero run zeroXD 3.82r3 been running it for a couple of day's running 4 screens clock people bookmarks and weather zero lag I have been pushing this build hard it's my understanding that the dalvik cache is what slows hero down twisted has forced cache to SD and stops the lag not a single crash or loading screen yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525284

CompCache\Linux Swap for CFS\BFS

Hey everyone,
Just interested to see what everyone is using for their swap settings.
Compcache, Compcache w/ backing, or linux swap?
Swappiness?
Thanks!

It depends for me. I don't use the regular scripts people use, instead, I load it all from a file at boot. I pretty much use slightly-modified solid stock builds with a few unnecessary things removed (updater apps or htc log apps for example) and a few performance options tossed in (kernel changed, cpu pegged at 528 mHz, and compcache).
If I'm running a rom made for the Dream, for example, an AOSP rom, or an ADP or T-Mobile G1 rom, I use 24 MB compcache with 60 swappiness.
If I'm running a Hero rom or any other demanding port that was not made for the Dream, I usually make up for the lack of memory by compressing it all, so I use 96+ MB compcache, and I have it swap pages like crazy to keep compache from storing stale pages, so I set swappiness to 100. It has a slight hit in performance, but it's very, very reliable and, for example on Hero ports, I get no loading screens even with all 7 screens full of widgets and shortcuts coming back from Browser on pages with flash while listening to music.
I don't use linux-swap at all. I like being able to remove my sdcard and using it as it was intended, I don't use a2sd for the same reason.

Thanks for the response. I am using several differnt build, all AOSP thoigh. Ive been experimenting for a while now, Ill give the 24mb compcache 60 swappiness a shot

Why use a cooked rom?

Well I want to start off by saying that I've rooted my N1 and tried several cooked roms including CM's and the Modaco version. I keep searching for a reason to use a custom rom. Every time I do, I end up reverting back to stock. I just don't get the purpose. I understand cooking Windows Mobile roms to get newer OS versions that included new features and stuff, and cooking in new updated apps... I've searched and searched looking for some solid reason to stay on a custom rom, but I can't find one.
The Nexus One is just awesome and pretty clean as it is out of the box. It seems like when I use a cooked rom, it's more bloated then stock and I "try" to make it work as my stock rom did, with same apps and homescreen setup (I like Launcher Pro/Dialer One). I know some of the roms include "newer kernels" which I'm guessing is like a newer build but I don't see anything really that "pops" out. I understand rooting the device to gain full access to the system. But you can root a stock rom.
I also understand porting different systems like Desire/Hero/whatever. But aside from cosmetics, rooting, overclocking, and undervolting... why use a custom roms?
And mods, I've searched and searched, and read and read, I've seen the stickies. I'm looking for specifics.

player911 said:
aside from cosmetics, rooting, overclocking, and undervolting... why use a custom roms?.
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I think you summed it up pretty well. cosmetics, rooting, overclocking, and undervolting.
For me, custom roms is worth it JUST for trackball wake up, and unlock, on the nexus. I hated having to use the power button way at the top.
For some, its so you can use an entirely open source phone, free from proprietary google apps.
The great chefs put a ton of thought into all the additions they use, create, and implement. Things that save battery life, improve user experience, or fix bugs / quirks.

There isn't a huge demand for ROM's for the N1 because we're at the forefront of Android right now. We're the one's with 2.2. We have flash. Everyone else is getting ports of what we get stock. This will continue for the foreseeable future, until Google selects another handset to be its in-house testing model, or launches Nexus Two/Dev Phone 4 (counting N1 as 3). Once we're obsolete, then, and only then, will you see the modding community pick up and you'll see big reasons to go with custom ROM's.

CM has the latest android code that is publically availalble. (He just synced code today). The little features that are missing are enough for me. Things like invisible lock screen, to the newly added gestures in the music app(great for driving).
If you're not a tweaker by nature then stock OS code will suffice. Me? I can't get enough of the new little things that add up to an overall great package.
/cm nutriding

Because it's fun.

720p recording.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287

Titanium Backup and N1 Torch

ATnTdude said:
There isn't a huge demand for ROM's for the N1 because we're at the forefront of Android right now. We're the one's with 2.2. We have flash. Everyone else is getting ports of what we get stock. This will continue for the foreseeable future, until Google selects another handset to be its in-house testing model, or launches Nexus Two/Dev Phone 4 (counting N1 as 3). Once we're obsolete, then, and only then, will you see the modding community pick up and you'll see big reasons to go with custom ROM's.
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Yea that makes sense.
I just feel that custom roms are more bloated then stock. I've been looking into trying one of the "Super Clean OC/UV Rooted" roms. But then again I think the stock OS is just the Bee's Knee's.

What is "bloated"?
There are zillions of reasons for custom ROMs, visual and functional:
Apps2SD
USB and WiFi tethering
Locales
OpenVPN
Dropbear, Bash, etc (better Linux experience)
Trackball colors, notifications
Torch (using flash LED as flashlight)
Deep system options made visible / changeable, lots of customization options
Most of Froyo features were implemented in custom ROMs way before Froyo test build.
My setup is VERY far from stock. And I use everything mentioned above. I can't even move to Froyo, because I need Apps2SD to work - overloaded with big apps.
I think that's a great reason..

player911 said:
Yea that makes sense.
I just feel that custom roms are more bloated then stock. I've been looking into trying one of the "Super Clean OC/UV Rooted" roms. But then again I think the stock OS is just the Bee's Knee's.
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No reason why you can't use Cyanogen's Quick Root + Pershoot's OC/UV Kernel on FroYo to benefit from rcxquake's wonderful modded Flash .apk and watch Hulu. It's obviously not quite as complete as CM 5.0.x (desperately missing trackball wake), and despite having root for some reason I still can't rm -f and pm uninstall com.amazon.mp3.apk from adb shell, but it gets almost everything done for me. The main thing that made FroYo live-able for me was the addition of ogdobber's Black Bar, which I had gotten very used to on CM5. That said, I can't wait for a CM flavor of FroYo...

willverduzco said:
No reason why you can't use Cyanogen's Quick Root + Pershoot's OC/UV Kernel on FroYo to benefit from rcxquake's wonderful modded Flash .apk and watch Hulu. It's obviously not quite as complete as CM 5.0.x (desperately missing trackball wake), and despite having root for some reason I still can't rm -f and pm uninstall com.amazon.mp3.apk from adb shell, but it gets almost everything done for me. The main thing that made FroYo live-able for me was the addition of ogdobber's Black Bar, which I had gotten very used to on CM5. That said, I can't wait for a CM flavor of FroYo...
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Have you tried "adb remount" to remount the System partition in read/write mode first?

Best ROM for G1. Don't Need the bs, Just Speed.

I currently have 5.0.8 on my G1. It runs terribly slow. All I want is a fast ROM. I want to be able to hit the home or back key and not have to wait 5 seconds for the phone to actually do it. I'm using automatic task killer too and I still have difficulty with performance.
Can anyone tell me what the best options are?

angasreid said:
I currently have 5.0.8 on my G1. It runs terribly slow. All I want is a fast ROM. I want to be able to hit the home or back key and not have to wait 5 seconds for the phone to actually do it. I'm using automatic task killer too and I still have difficulty with performance.
Can anyone tell me what the best options are?
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use swapper with swapiness 60 and some swap space (file), works great!

Just from my experience, stick with Android 1.6, don't go any higher than that
My opinion is that the G1's hardware was simply not meant nor is capable of running anything above Android 1.6 "well" and at a constant reliable speed.
I have used every ROM starting from JF 1.41 (Android 1.0) to the latest FroYo Roms (Android 2.2). I say the best, fastest and most stable ROM is SuperD (Android 1.6). I don't use the latest version of it... because the theme I love, DarkStar doesn't support it, but even my dated version of SuperD runs extremely well, I am certain the latest version of SuperD runs even better.
I have over 6000 text messages on my phone, I use all 5 screens on my home screen with a total of 10 widgets spread across them, including a Weather Clock which takes quite a bit of memory. Even so, the phone still loads everything very fast. (I do use CompCache and a 32 MB Swap)
I have stuck with SuperD for several months now and I am pretty convinced that this ROM is what I will use until the day I need to get a new phone, which is in half a year or so.

angasreid said:
I currently have 5.0.8 on my G1. It runs terribly slow. All I want is a fast ROM. I want to be able to hit the home or back key and not have to wait 5 seconds for the phone to actually do it. I'm using automatic task killer too and I still have difficulty with performance.
Can anyone tell me what the best options are?
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Fastest Roms on the G1 are probably Htcclays superbad 1.3.3 and SuperD
But if your looking for 2.1 roms I highly suggest Chromatic 3.8 by
far the fastest eclair rom for the g1.

enomther !!! 1.6 the original! speeedy and reliable!

anyone have a down load for any of enomther 1.6 or 2.1 roms? links seem to be dead and I've just returned to 2.22.23.02 trying to get t-mobile aosp while remaining rooted.

Anyone have the dl link for Htcclays superbad 1.3.3? And I don't understand the difference between superd white and black. Which ones better and faster?

http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=htcclay/
It's somewhere in there
If you ever are looking for more ROMs look in:
http://files.androidspin.com/
db.androidspin.com has mostly dead links

Are there any really basic roms out there?

So here's the skinny. I'm new to the whole rooting-esque activities on a phone. The hero is my first smart phone, and i'm looking to expand what it can do.
BUT.
All of the roms I seem to find are 50/50 good/bad to me. They have some nice things like the OC/UV/Jit working, but then they do all sorts of stuff like live wallpapers, all sorts of color changes, lock screen changes, etc etc.
What I'd like, is a minimalist ROM, that as close as possibly matches the following:
SenseUI Dialer app
Auto OC to 710 (and underclock when not in use)
UV
Jit
Good Screen response (with no real keyboard, the onscreen MUST work well)
Things I don't want
Features that don't work (Camera, BT, MMS etc not working)
Instability (I'd trade less crazy for more stable)
See-ums like Live Wallpapers, and other things that do not add function other than visual "niceness"
So my question, is there anything like this?

honeybun
and not the sweet bread variety.

diicembr said:
So my question, is there anything like this?
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diicembr said:
So here's the skinny. I'm new to the whole rooting-esque activities on a phone. The hero is my first smart phone, and i'm looking to expand what it can do.
BUT.
All of the roms I seem to find are 50/50 good/bad to me. They have some nice things like the OC/UV/Jit working, but then they do all sorts of stuff like live wallpapers, all sorts of color changes, lock screen changes, etc etc.
What I'd like, is a minimalist ROM, that as close as possibly matches the following:
SenseUI Dialer app
Auto OC to 710 (and underclock when not in use)
UV
Jit
Good Screen response (with no real keyboard, the onscreen MUST work well)
Things I don't want
Features that don't work (Camera, BT, MMS etc not working)
Instability (I'd trade less crazy for more stable)
See-ums like Live Wallpapers, and other things that do not add function other than visual "niceness"
So my question, is there anything like this?
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i would say pick up the latest fresh rom, its made for just the basic stuff and you can add more if you want. jit can be very unstable at times so i dont know why you would want that
fresh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
oc-710 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722073
EDIT: this post goes in general as well as is doesnt really help anything "develop"

perfect one for you, and it happens to be the best.
I use what I think you are looking for exactly, with maybe the exception of the HTC dialer. The absolute best custom 2.1 Rom out there, that does not have much of the eye candy that just drains your battery and personally I find it to be clutter and annoying, it is caller DarchDroid 2.7.
It does not have HTC Sense whatsoever in it. It was built using a different source than what HTC puts on it, and I like it much better. It is very fast, responsive, touch screen works real nice, it has JIT, UV, OC to 710 by default, does not have live wallpaper. It is clean, good to the eye without the glitter, camera and all that works, basically everything works on the phone.
it uses all the standard aosp apps by default like aosp keyboard (which personally i find it very accurate and easy to use).
If the default apps do not please you, you can always dl and install apps from the market.
to check out and dl darchdroid, goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
if you want to use all the google apps, then be sure to dl and install the google ****s on that page as well.

distantneighbor said:
I use what I think you are looking for exactly, with maybe the exception of the HTC dialer. The absolute best custom 2.1 Rom out there, that does not have much of the eye candy that just drains your battery and personally I find it to be clutter and annoying, it is caller DarchDroid 2.7.
It does not have HTC Sense whatsoever in it. It was built using a different source than what HTC puts on it, and I like it much better. It is very fast, responsive, touch screen works real nice, it has JIT, UV, OC to 710 by default, does not have live wallpaper. It is clean, good to the eye without the glitter, camera and all that works, basically everything works on the phone.
it uses all the standard aosp apps by default like aosp keyboard (which personally i find it very accurate and easy to use).
If the default apps do not please you, you can always dl and install apps from the market.
to check out and dl darchdroid, goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
if you want to use all the google apps, then be sure to dl and install the google ****s on that page as well.
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this is great if you don't want sense, to me its a personal preference thing so you can try each. I used dd2.7 for a loooong time and it is the most stable rom Ive had with up to 30 hour battery life

I'm still using Ic3Rom v2.8. It is by far the best ROM I've flashed in terms of performance. It looks mostly AOSP, but still has the Sense dialer and people apps, with other Sense goodies in there as well. Other recent ROMs I've tried out are DarchDroid and the Cyanogen 6 test, and while I've really liked a lot about both of them, Ic3 is more stable and MUCH quicker than either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663366&highlight=ic3

DD all the way...best rom ive used to date.. and i have tried them all!!! ic3rom close second!!!

i have to say darch droid, OR buufed Rom are indeed THE best ive used. Both are fast, Stable, AND both use less then 100mb onboard flash! good luck to u though.

I can't believe no one mentioned nfinitefx45's ROM which is 100% stock, with A2SD and everything working. Don't mind the screenshots at the bottom, that's what it looks like only if you flash the optional file for the zen aka MyTouch 3G theme.
As for the OC (and optional undervolt), get DarchKernel for nfinitefx rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
Users have reported this combo to be very, very fast. The only thing it doesn't have is JIT.
Like others mentioned, Iced HoneyBun ROM is also good, and DarchKernel is also available for it

IceRom 2.8

NOIDBETA still working on oc

codelockdown said:
i have to say darch droid, OR buufed Rom are indeed THE best ive used. Both are fast, Stable, AND both use less then 100mb onboard flash! good luck to u though.
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Definitely either one is a solid choice, but I prefer Buufed because its completely themed out. Its 100% AOSP (meaning its ridiculously fast), includes all the stuff you like (UV, OC, JIT) and is still very stable, and it looks pretty sweet.

c00ller said:
I can't believe no one mentioned nfinitefx45's ROM which is 100% stock, with A2SD and everything working. Don't mind the screenshots at the bottom, that's what it looks like only if you flash the optional file for the zen aka MyTouch 3G theme.
As for the OC (and optional undervolt), get DarchKernel for nfinitefx rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
Users have reported this combo to be very, very fast. The only thing it doesn't have is JIT.
Like others mentioned, Iced HoneyBun ROM is also good, and DarchKernel is also available for it
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I agree. Can't believe someone didn't mention nfinitefx's ROM. I am runing it right now and even without OC it runs very smoothly.

+1 for nfinitefx

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