Hi to all i was just wondering if it is illegal to mod other peoples phone because i am in school and i mod peoples phone you know give them root and change boot img (like the T-mobile G1/My Touch 3G) and my dad thinks its illegal and want me to stop he also thinks that some one is going to connect it to a bomb and blame me i just want to get some other peoples views and such thanks for you feed back!-)
wut?
android is open source.
LOL.
Q&A Subforum. Kthnx.
It is actually highly illegal to post questions like that in this section of this forum. You will notice that when your post is removed by the powers that be.
It's not illegal to root your phone, but rooting your phone makes it possible to do illegal things.
so where do i post this at
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so where do i post this at
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For one, don't post it anywhere else.. allow the mods to move it for you to the proper location, that way you don't have two pointless threads about the same pointless topic.
For two, are you for real? Do you actually think that modding a phone is something that an individual would be prosecuted for even if it is violating terms of service?
well Microsoft did prosecute that on kid in collage for modding xbox's
Because that circumvented copyright, the original creator(I used to be in that scene but forget(?bunny?)) of the hack works for them now so...
evilkorn said:
Because that circumvented copyright, the original creator(I used to be in that scene but forget(?bunny?)) of the hack works for them now so...
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Most likely copyright infringement for playing burnt 360 games on xboxlive which that hack supposedly allowed him to do while remaining "untraceable".
Well microsoft doesn't have a developer xbox but there is a htc phone that has a developer version that is rooted. And android is open source. The only thing that can go wrong is that you void ur warranty. But this section is for develpment only. Please all questions in Dream Q&A section next time
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Where would you post a Question & get an Answer? I don't know if such a thing exists. If it did I imagine it might be labelled something like Q&A but what do I know?
When you buy hardware, the hardware is yours to keep and use as you see fit, there's no such thing as licensing hardware (yet, though M$ is trying, fight the man etc...), what you could get in trouble for, though, is if the images you're flashing to your friend's phones contain any copyrighted material, such as google apps or HTC's proprietary binaries. Just make sure you don't become world famous and you should be ok, it's not illegal if you're not caught, huh?
Ahahhhahahahaahahahahahahhahahahhahahaahahahahahhaahha! Ok, now that I got that out of my system. It is not illegal to mod an electronic device. When it becomes illegal is when you mod the device to do illegal actions, like play burnt copies of video games, or run illegal version of operating systems, etc. With that said, modding your g1/mt3g is just fine. As long as your not modding the phone to be a detonator for a nuclear bomb, your fine. Be sure to issue a disclaimer before modding anyone's phone. You don't want anyone coming back to your demanding money for a bricked phone. Just let them know that your trained in what you do, but there is still no guarantee that everything will go as planned. I've modded a couple of peoples g1's and I had them reply to an email with my personal disclaimer. Just as a back up...
I swear I just answered this question in a different post in a different section with exactly the same name.....hmm curious.......
SRKdrift said:
well Microsoft did prosecute that on kid in collage for modding xbox's
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if you ever get popular like him and earn a reputation for flashing proprietary ROMS, HTC, Moto, etc might go after you one day, but I bet my bottom dollar its never going to happen
Notice I only mentioned flashing, everything else is legal as its your own hardware and you can use it to your hearts desire
The kid modding xbox was 1. circumventing DRM protection, which is illegal, and 2. re-using M$' copyrighted material (firmware) to install in the xbox. Whatever he did to the hardware was perfectly legal as long as the software and methods were all free and legal.
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Also, giving your friends root might be illegal, is it cannabis root by any chance? (sorry, I had to)
While we are on the subject of legality
Hi to all i was just wondering if it is illegal to watch interspecies erotica? Because i am in school and i watch people you know give them root, and my dad thinks its illegal and want me to stop. he also thinks that some one is going to connect it to the web and blame me. i just want to get some other peoples views and such thanks for you feed back!-)
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Getting root on ur own hardware aint never going to be illegal what u do with it afterwards could be read the license of the software your putting in their phones simple as that... PERIOD close thread plz xbox is unrelated
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Hi to all i was just wondering if it is illegal to watch interspecies erotica? Because i am in school and i watch people you know give them root, and my dad thinks its illegal and want me to stop. he also thinks that some one is going to connect it to the web and blame me. i just want to get some other peoples views and such thanks for you feed back!-)
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Beastiality is actually illegal
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hey guys,
im new to this phone, i just got it a few days ago, i want to install the voice commander 1.6. anyone know where i can get the free version?? anyone willing to share their copy of it?
also, i have the BTAudio, smartskey and magic button installed, any suggestions for MUST have programs.....
again, FREEE PROGRAMS PLEASE!!!!
THANKS A BUNCH
LOL....this is wrong on so many levels I can't reply without a series of four-letter words and some ideas of what to do with an iron rod. Anyone else care to take a whack at this?
Mark, I took out my
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but he does clearly say he wants a free version, so I backtracked.
I want a free version of Winona Ryder to come and show me who's the daddy, and it's about as likely to happen, but no harm in asking...
Thug, please ensure that you've read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
We tolerate piracy as well as we tolerate a bad Eschian paradox.
Tread weary. Cotton Weary.
V
you're kiddin right?
thug2md - we don't do that. Now, you could WRITE one from scratch and share it here. That would be sweet.
This thread has all of the best free stuff: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284501 ::: Posted from my Wizard :::
I'll give it to you
I will sell you a free version for $100. hows that, but you can't re-distrubute it..
No, no harm in asking but it rubbed me SO much the wrong way I just had to laugh at it, especially since it's also posted, almost verbatim, in howardforums. Ole one-post probably didn't bother reading a thing on either site since it takes what, 30 seconds to find a freeware thread, doesn't want to pay for software for his big shot expensive phone, expects whomever to steal it for him, goes by "thug" and what does any of this have to do with upgrading anything? It made me laugh even harder to see it on howardforums and get an even more terse and severe reply than yours, V.
im more amazed that you could find anything on HoFo..
But consider this your warning.. DO NOT ask for warez, etc on this board.. any further action COULD lead to being banned... if you are that concerned about free then read this board and see what people are using, then do your own search on the net for it, just do not publicly ask us for it..
wow, what a welcome
now this is what i call a warm welcome!! Stepping into a realm of what i thought was a brotherhood of telephone-techies that would have shared the wealth of knowledge and technologies (including but not limited to software) and instead i walked into the shadows of bashers and homo-erotics (four letter words and iron rods buddy??) A simple, "sorry, we dont ask for "free" software in this forum mr new guy" post would have not only made its point, but would have lead to a more focused & productive discussion. This is a hobby, a new one at that and i am learning, just like all of you have learned at one point. I guess some people feel a sense of power by flaming newbies in forums, so with that, FLAME on with your iron rods and 4 letter words while i enjoy my newly acquired "free software" that you paid $40 bucks for.
Good evening Gents
no one said we paid for our software either.. there are plenty of resources to getting the software, filesharing, websites, etc... but for the integrity of the board we do not discuss it, this is not a warez site
Also we were not flaming the newbie but merely instructing you that if you plan on being an active member of this site and community then you need to adhere to certain rules or be banned, its up to you.
Next time look around on these boards before posting.. if you would have looked you may have noticed that there are no discussion's on warez
i understand and will comply, however, things could have been said differently is all what im saying
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i understand and will comply, however, things could have been said differently is all what im saying
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also understand that lots of people come by and ask for these things also.. when certain things get asked a million times people tend to get a little pi$$y
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also understand that lots of people come by and ask for these things also.. when certain things get asked a million times people tend to get a little pi$$y
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Especially when the topic of Warez is coverd in the Sticky Threads at the top of every section!
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Especially when the topic of Warez is coverd in the Sticky Threads at the top of every section!
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good point
This Thread
Can someone please close this thread. There is no point in talking about something that we all know is wrong and should not be in here in the first place.
the teachers at our school use them to unlock doors, and i want to know if its possible to emulate one so i can get access, its for an elaborate senior prank, nothing bad, we just want to put a town landmark inside the school all stealth-like. we have permission to take the landmark from the owner as long as we dont damage it, but in the spirit of it being a senior prank, we dont think getting permission from the school would be very cool.
i found this, but i dont know if it will serve my purpose:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/907a/
it says i can use a tag and see all sorts of details about it and use it in 'various ways', and i could get a teachers tag for a minute to scan it, but i cant steal it because they report them stolen and then the codes dont work anymore. but i dont want to drop $100 if it wont even work, even if the other applications of that kit are badass. that's a pretty steep price for 'maybe'.
so i come here, i'm not a member of many forums but people here seem to be pretty damn technically inclined. i'm no idiot myself, but i havent done much in wireless tech. any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
You could clone a RFID without having physical acces to the RFID.
As soon as the card is swiped it sends a signal which can be sniffed.
Sometimes that is just enough.
proxmark3 is a handy open source device to experiment with.
But there are others too..
I have seen one in credit card format once (forgot the name though ).
thats why its a good idea to have someone in the inside...lol
good old times when i used to help the tech guy
I worked with RFID tags for a while a couple of years ago. There are several types (standards) so be careful, the device you link to is for 125Khz type tags, but there are others "tuned" to 13.456 Mhz and so forth. Further more, most of them (or at least the Phillips IC's) include a security register (AFI) which contains a special number that your reader must know to detect those tags during the "inventory" process. And maybe also, if the programmers are really paranoid, they probably put some encrypted data inside the tag!
I guess I would start by taking a look at the part numbers / manufacturer of the readers and search the internet for their specs, and go from there.
Nothing is easy these times...Good luck!
lazyboy0172 said:
the teachers at our school use them to unlock doors, and i want to know if its possible to emulate one so i can get access, its for an elaborate senior prank, nothing bad, we just want to put a town landmark inside the school all stealth-like. we have permission to take the landmark from the owner as long as we dont damage it, but in the spirit of it being a senior prank, we dont think getting permission from the school would be very cool.
i found this, but i dont know if it will serve my purpose:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/907a/
it says i can use a tag and see all sorts of details about it and use it in 'various ways', and i could get a teachers tag for a minute to scan it, but i cant steal it because they report them stolen and then the codes dont work anymore. but i dont want to drop $100 if it wont even work, even if the other applications of that kit are badass. that's a pretty steep price for 'maybe'.
so i come here, i'm not a member of many forums but people here seem to be pretty damn technically inclined. i'm no idiot myself, but i havent done much in wireless tech. any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
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I've always personally preferred Social Engineering If I had a choice. A long time ago for our Senior Prank we had to get inside. We didn't have fancy RFID but standard Keys. People were talking about stealing keys. But that seemed to severe. What we ended up doing was exploiting the Human factor.
What we first tried was to get the Janitor to let one of us in to retrieve something from our locker. Then we would let to others in, but he wasn't near a door. But We noticed the "hip" teacher was in his classroom. You know the hip teach, "Don't call me Mr. Jones, call me Ted." We were able to get him to open the door for one of us and that person distracted him while the rest of us snuck (sneaked?) in and did the deed.
lazyboy0172 said:
the teachers at our school use them to unlock doors, and i want to know if its possible to emulate one so i can get access, its for an elaborate senior prank, nothing bad, we just want to put a town landmark inside the school all stealth-like. we have permission to take the landmark from the owner as long as we dont damage it, but in the spirit of it being a senior prank, we dont think getting permission from the school would be very cool.
i found this, but i dont know if it will serve my purpose:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/907a/
it says i can use a tag and see all sorts of details about it and use it in 'various ways', and i could get a teachers tag for a minute to scan it, but i cant steal it because they report them stolen and then the codes dont work anymore. but i dont want to drop $100 if it wont even work, even if the other applications of that kit are badass. that's a pretty steep price for 'maybe'.
so i come here, i'm not a member of many forums but people here seem to be pretty damn technically inclined. i'm no idiot myself, but i havent done much in wireless tech. any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
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Senior Prank huh, like stealing the test answers for that final???
Beware of Big Brother
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What happened to the good old idea of hiding within the building and open it from the inside during the night when you want to move the landmark???
Hi to all i was just wondering if it is illegal to mod other peoples phone because i am in school and i mod peoples phone you know give them root and change boot img (like the T-mobile G1/My Touch 3G) and my dad thinks its illegal and want me to stop he also thinks that some one is going to connect it to a bomb and blame me i just want to get some other peoples views and such thanks for you feed back!-)
I'm pretty sure the "modding G1 and giving them root" police are only in Oregon, so you should be ok. Although I hear they are expanding their field offices to include Fargo, ND and North Grovesnerdale, CT so be on the lookout if you are near those areas.
In all serious, I think you are fine.....
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I'm pretty sure the "modding G1 and giving them root" police are only in Oregon, so you should be ok. Although I hear they are expanding their field offices to include Fargo, ND and North Grovesnerdale, CT so be on the lookout if you are near those areas.
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**** good lookin out. I don't want to go to jail... haha
Ahahhhahahahaahahahahahahhahahahhahahaahahahahahhaahha! Ok, now that I got that out of my system. It is not illegal to mod an electronic device. When it becomes illegal is when you mod the device to do illegal actions, like play burnt copies of video games, or run illegal version of operating systems, etc. With that said, modding your g1/mt3g is just fine. As long as your not modding the phone to be a detonator for a nuclear bomb, your fine. Be sure to issue a disclaimer before modding anyone's phone. You don't want anyone coming back to your demanding money for a bricked phone. Just let them know that your trained in what you do, but there is still no guarantee that everything will go as planned. I've modded a couple of peoples g1's and I had them reply to an email with my personal disclaimer. Just as a back up...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUPER FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but seriously...when I was younger I ALWAYS questioned if my actions hack/mod wise were legal......
fyi, it's now only illegal to load an old cyanogen mod with the proprietary google apps (for now, who knows what the future will bring legislation wise) .....according to google.....and probably their power lawyers.
While we are on the subject of legallity?
Hi to all i was just wondering if it is illegal to watch interspecies erotica? Because i am in school and i watch people you know give them root, and my dad thinks its illegal and want me to stop. he also thinks that some one is going to connect it to the web and blame me. i just want to get some other peoples views and such thanks for you feed back!-)
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LOL
just keep clear of any suspicious activities.... if someone asks for your help in making something that goes boom...its more than likely an fbi agent
It's not illegal unless you distribute copyrighted software. If you are simply rooting the phone you are fine, but if you have to downgrade it you are technically redistributing software without a license to do so. Either way I wouldn't worry about them coming to knock on your door for flashing a few kids phones.
On another note. Although it may make you the cool guy in class who can mod phones, I would advise you tell them to learn on their own. Otherwise you will end up being tech support for countless idiots who don't know what to do with root. Do you really feel like spending hours walking people through a Hero rom install, or SD partitioning? Cause that's what you are asking for by doing so.
The whole point of performing such mods is for the learning experience, and expanding the capabilities of your device for personal enjoyment. It's not so people can say "look what I can do" or "my phone is cooler than yours". My opinion is: If you won't put forth the effort to read and learn how, you don't need it.
You probably spent a good bit of time learning what you have. I know it feels great to be able to show off those skills, but in the long run they will thank you for making them learn rather than doing it for them.
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On another note. Although it may make you the cool guy in class who can mod phones, I would advise you tell them to learn on their own. Otherwise you will end up being tech support for countless idiots who don't know what to do with root. Do you really feel like spending hours walking people through a Hero rom install, or SD partitioning? Cause that's what you are asking for by doing so.
The whole point of performing such mods is for the learning experience, and expanding the capabilities of your device for personal enjoyment. It's not so people can say "look what I can do" or "my phone is cooler than yours". My opinion is: If you won't put forth the effort to read and learn how, you don't need it.
You probably spent a good bit of time learning what you have. I know it feels great to be able to show off those skills, but in the long run they will thank you for making them learn rather than doing it for them.
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Ok everyone. I tricked you. Obviously from my posts yall know I love Android. However when you saw this title I bet you wanted to argue with me about it. Well guess what. I have a website I just launched where you can do just that. Informal Debates is a debate community and I desperately need people who want to join the site. I come here because I know you guys know your stuff (about Android at least) and I trust you guys. If you want to join, please do http://www.informaldebates.com
Oh and Toast, please forgive me for stepping out of line. I know this isn't specifically Android based but I figured this may help slow down some of the inter debating that goes on here. If you want to delete I understand don't blame you but this is my reasoning.
MOD EDIT: Moved this to off-topic for you, as it fits better in there than in one device forum
Interesting site, I hate debating with liberals though, unless there's a choke button haha.
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Interesting site, I hate debating with liberals though, unless there's a choke button haha.
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HA HA HA! awesome and agreed! It's not just politics though. Literally anything you want to debate or discuss you can. Phones included lol
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My face when I read the title.
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Interesting site, I hate debating with liberals though, unless there's a choke button haha.
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"with Liberty and justice for all"
Dredge said:
My face when I read the title.
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Exactly why I made it that title lol
DirtyShroomz said:
"with Liberty and justice for all"
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Which is why I made the site. Liberty to speak your mind.
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Which is why I made the site. Liberty to speak your mind.
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It's fun to debate but not about politics. Though I do love how people hate "liberals" which is what this country was founded on... smh.
I was reading through the site and someone made the case how the constitution is outdated because it allows criminals to have guns, I was like ugh, *facepalm* I know sooner or later im going to get sucked in to set the record strait.
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I was reading through the site and someone mentioned made the case how the constitution is outdated because it allows criminals to have guns, I was like ugh, *facepalm* I know sooner or later im going to get sucked in to set the record strait.
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Lol! I guess they forgot about the part where it allows law-abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves from these criminals
How can you be desperate for users if you just launched the site? I would study SEO and get effective keywords running through a sitemaps xml file to get crawled if you want users. After that's setup submit it into the search engines. Many of them.
Rick Astley. RULES!
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How can you be desperate for users if you just launched the site? I would study SEO and get effective keywords running through a sitemaps xml file to get crawled if you want users. After that's setup submit it into the search engines. Many of them.
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Not desperate but I just want people to use the site. I have seo measures in place, though I do need to set up meta tags for the dynamic pages. I just figure this is one way to get people interested. Besides even good seo takes a month to see any results.
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It's fun to debate but not about politics. Though I do love how people hate "liberals" which is what this country was founded on... smh.
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I find it fun to debate about anything including politics. But that's why you have the choice. And though you're technically correct the term liberal meant something completely different back then. I don't hate anyone. Except Nancy Pelosi
I aspect some fan boy flaming....
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I aspect some fan boy flaming....
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Fan boy? Who?
Lol gotta love these signatures with all the "My"'s in them.....I come from a generation where the "me,my,and I" guys are just douche bags....just a hint guys....no one likes people that have to announce that its all about "you"and only you.
Personally I don't give a shiat about what you do when I see your a me,my,and I guy.
im usually the one to start threads like this haha...glad to see someone else step up to the bitter plate
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like people who have to name every single damn spec about not only their current phone, but all of their past devices since they were 13 yrs old. AND not only which ROMs, kernels, modems, themes, etc. that they ran, but which ones they had Nandroid backups of as well........so informative!!!!
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I agree, in the past ten years or so, at least in the U.S. this has been one of the worst fads. Listen to hit music, its all about clubbin and the "imma do me" thing. Incredibly selfish, but to each his own i guess.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
......and....and...and...yeah, people who have to put how many Vibrants they own, what ROM they're on, modem they're on, kernel they're on, theme they're on, boot animation they're are using, shutdown animation they're are using, market they're using, apps they're are using, AND they even go as far as putting that they are using sounds with Linda's voice...AHGRRR!
You people are gonna start again on **** that annoys you on a forum? WTF! GO GET MARRIED AND HAVE SOME ****ING KIDS (like me) so you have REAL life **** that is annoying. Not trying to diss u guys but I also come from a generation were guys complaining about little **** like that are called *****es!
Tucson, AZ. Anytime baby.
I see the shortbus filling up.....special ed here we come! :-D
on a side note all....im not exactly "*****ing"....but more stating a fact.
btw with as many explicitives as you just used,married and have kids?....I sure hope you don't talk to your wife and children like that,but I must say it sure sounds like you talk this way on a regular basis :-(
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i'm a total hypocrite, and i believe that i am the standard by which all people should live their lives. i am currently seeking therapy, but until i find adequate treatment, i will continue to try and convince people of who i am, while at the same time contradicting the very image of myself that im trying to project.
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admitting it is the first step to recovery....
Would you prefer if I put your contact info in my sig instead of my own?
If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Shortbus-Driver said:
If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
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Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
MacaronyMax said:
Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
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And hence I limit my siggy to nonsensical information.
MacaronyMax said:
Don't diss mistress
What she was aiming at is that some people do need to use the my my my, it is their sig, however it does get annoying when they put everything in there about everything
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Like me?
WHY DO PPL CARE ANYWAY IS IT YOUR XDA ACCOUNT
Having too much info in your sig lets everybody know what you are using to judge the relevance of your posts.
umm what they said
Shortbus-Driver said:
If you are referring to my post....then I must say....how did you ever get to be a mod? And how long do you expect to be one with comments of such? I must say this is getting pretty childish even for moderators :-/
I see this is going to go places we don't want to...all becuz 1 mod moved it out of the vibrant forum where it was most needed to be so the people that it was refering to could read it and get a grip on reality
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I'm sorry but I have to interject here. You think MY post was childish? Stop for a second and study your title; I can hear you now going "My My My"...not very befitting for an adult if you ask me.
Being a relatively new member, you have not had the time to really aquatint yourself with how things work around here. We have an off topic section for a reason. Things that do not pertain to a specific device or are just rants like these, do not belong in the device forums. It was not wrong of the moderator to move your post, he was doing his job.
Also, disrespecting a moderator will result in a temp ban so I advise you to be more considerate. kthks.