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Correct me if I am wrong but I think my Diamond (bought from Hong Kong) support USA GSM network. Please see the attached picture, it shows UMTS8500+1900 + GSM850+1900 as an option in the phone setting manual.
I made this post because I saw many people complain that the first batch of Diamond doesn't support USA GSM bands but only the Asia and Euro one.
Can u check al lines, mines is:
UMTS(900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
UMTS(800+2100)
UMTS(850+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(850)+GSM(900+1800)
UMTS(1700)
Mine is working is USA!
It may support those bands but it wont actually get you 3G access in America because the non American Diamonds are missing the 3G attenna. Its not a software problem but a hardware problem.
If you want to use 3G in America then wait till the American version of the Diamond is out.
the bands being able to be selected means that the RIL (radio interface layer) CAN support those bands, that DOES NOT MEAN that your Phone Hardware can support it.
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
xwaiz said:
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
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Well the HK Diamond Spec is incorrect, it "could" be quoting the US specs but the US version isnt out for another month at least.
xwaiz said:
The software interface is probably not smart enough to adjust itself to match hardware.
The HK Diamond hardware spec said it is a triband GSM phone. It does not have GSM850. I'm not sure if this is just a marketing / sales spec.
Anyone tested this in the US? Or any hardware/radio engineer on this forum to validate this spec?
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900/1800/1900, thats 3 bands = triband.
This has been discussed so many times now
I have myself written about 3 times why techincally it won't work. Search for my posts, because i really dont have the energy to type it agian!
someone1234 said:
900/1800/1900, thats 3 bands = triband.
This has been discussed so many times now
I have myself written about 3 times why techincally it won't work. Search for my posts, because i really dont have the energy to type it agian!
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hehehe...
I though this would be a good place to post this question.
I have the same bands listed as post # 2. Now my phone came out of the box like it is. No radio or rom upgrades, yet. Does that mean its Quad band unlocked already from the box? Or do I still have to load the latest radio?
Hard to say without knowing wich radio you have.
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Hard to say without knowing which radio you have.
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My radio is 1.00.25.03, so I would assume it's not quad band without putting one of the newer radios?
triband TD
when i got my TD, it was listed a triband. I could still use in the USA because
ATT uses 900 band also. However, their primary band is 850. THe reception with the 900 only band was spotty. I then flashed my ROM (see below) and a new radio.....05 and immediately got 4 bars where i got 1 or none. MUch improvement. However, you will NOT get 3G until you get a USA phone. It uses Edge now, (which for me is fast enough). ITs a hardware think not a ROM or radio upgrade thing to get 3G.
BTW this is my current ROM and i am very happy with my TD now. Best phone ive ever had.
Rom 1.93.456.2 WWE
Rom Date 7-10-08
Radio Version 1.00.25.05
Hard SPL 1.24
Protocol Version 52.29.25.12H
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It may support those bands but it wont actually get you 3G access in America because the non American Diamonds are missing the 3G attenna. Its not a software problem but a hardware problem.
If you want to use 3G in America then wait till the American version of the Diamond is out.
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Is there a difference between the european 3g and the american? I haven't tried my diamond in the states but I use 3g/turbo3g here in europe...
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Is there a difference between the european 3g and the american? I haven't tried my diamond in the states but I use 3g/turbo3g here in europe...
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I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
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I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
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I saw your auction. Sorry, but I can't believe you're getting 3G on that phone without at least ONE bar showing in the pic!!
If the european version is missing the antenae then if he was in an area with strong enough signal wouldn't it show the 3G icon and maybe even only one bar, but that is not usable.
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I saw your auction. Sorry, but I can't believe you're getting 3G on that phone without at least ONE bar showing in the pic!!
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The 3G has nothing to do with the bars.. it says 3g next to the bars if you have it.. (at the same place as the active sync icon is) I haven't seen the picture though so I'm not going to say anything..
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I have mine on Ebay. I have currently using in in SF with ATT 3G.
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So that makes me wonder why you haven't dumped the radio off the phone and let other people test it out. If in fact it is just a DIAM100 model with a modified radio to unlock the 850 gsm band.
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The 3G has nothing to do with the bars.. it says 3g next to the bars if you have it.. (at the same place as the active sync icon is) I haven't seen the picture though so I'm not going to say anything..
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That's 100% untrue.
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So that makes me wonder why you haven't dumped the radio off the phone and let other people test it out. If in fact it is just a DIAM100 model with a modified radio to unlock the 850 gsm band.
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The hardware he has is the DIAM160, not the DIAM100.
ok i'm very confused with the 3g bands stuff...so i would like to know if i can use the great britain g1 in us with 3g? and also do i need to unlock the phone? even tho its the same network like us a england tmobile in us with tmobile thanx
somebody???
Refer to this site for great information:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/ARCHI...utside-of-the-USA-1700-Mhz-2100-Mhz/m-p/37301
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Refer to this site for great information:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/ARCHI...utside-of-the-USA-1700-Mhz-2100-Mhz/m-p/37301
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I wouldn't base anything on what you see in that thread.... some of what is written there is quite simply WRONG.
Specifically, the theory that it may be 3G in one way and 2G in the other way? LOL! Impossible! If the thing says 3G, its 3G in BOTH DIRECTIONS.
I can't say if there's a difference or not between the europe and north american versions... I *doubt* that there is, but don't hold me to that.
Previous models like the Z2 and Z3 Xperia phones had both VoLTE & HD Voice included, even in the international versions. But since the Z5 and even with the upcoming X series phones, these features were removed. Does ANYONE know why Sony did this?? I have a couple ideas, but I'd like to know if anyone knows anything more concrete. Any information would be great!!
Thanks!
Well, some country (mostly Asia/Europe) has VoLTE option on Z5.
On my Japanese docomo's X Performance also has VoLTE option, so maybe some country/customization will have VoLTE option.
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Well, some country (mostly Asia/Europe) has VoLTE option on Z5.
On my Japanese docomo's X Performance also has VoLTE option, so maybe some country/customization will have VoLTE option.
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Andro,
Very interesting! Let me ask you.....I've pre-ordered the INTERNATIONAL version of the X Performance. Is that the version that you have too? Or did you get your X Performance from a Japanese carrier?? Please let me know. Thanks!
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Andro,
Very interesting! Let me ask you.....I've pre-ordered the INTERNATIONAL version of the X Performance. Is that the version that you have too? Or did you get your X Performance from a Japanese carrier?? Please let me know. Thanks!
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I was selected to test Japanese carrier's X Performance before launching in Japan
I will get international Dual (F8132), though.
AndroPlus said:
I was selected to test Japanese carrier's X Performance before launching in Japan
I will get international Dual (F8132), though.
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Oh. So it's from a Japanese carrier......I was hoping you were gonna tell me it was the international version. Oh well. lol
VoLte also use by an application, in india only Jio Innfocom is ony VoLte provider and for non VoLte Phones they are using JioConnect App For Hd Calling So Don't Worry About VoLTe.
Pramodkumawat said:
VoLte also use by an application, in india only Jio Innfocom is ony VoLte provider and for non VoLte Phones they are using JioConnect App For Hd Calling So Don't Worry About VoLTe.
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Well here in America I found out from T-Mobile's Tech Support Department that I'll still be able to make calls in a 4G LTE-only area even without VoLTE, which is fine. But the problem is Band 12/700 MHz. This is very valuable low-bandwidth spectrum which T-Mobile JUST purchased in my area (Chicago) a week ago. So within the next 6-8 mos this will become available for all customers like myself. Band 12 is very good at penetrating through buildings, unlike the higher spectrums, so that's why people would want it. But I found out that if I buy the X Performance, b/c it doesn't have VoLTE on it, I can ONLY use Band 12 for data while on a call, not for the call itself. Which means I WON'T be able to take advantage of having Band 12, even though the XP has it. They said your phone can only use Band 12 for phone calls if you have VoLTE. The other bandwidths don't require VoLTE but Band 12 does. So I'm NOT happy about this.
I could get an HTC 10 through T-Mobile today, and it would have VoLTE, but the camera on the 10 isn't as good as the XP's, and the XP looks cooler too, plus has front-facing STEREO speakers. So I dunno. I'm really p'd off Pramo because I feel like I have to sacrifice something I really like just to have the XP.
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Previous models like the Z2 and Z3 Xperia phones had both VoLTE & HD Voice included, even in the international versions. But since the Z5 and even with the upcoming X series phones, these features were removed. Does ANYONE know why Sony did this?? I have a couple ideas, but I'd like to know if anyone knows anything more concrete. Any information would be great!!
Thanks!
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Can't verify it myself as I don't have a Z5 series phone, but according to a list on Wikipedia the Z5 series does have HD Voice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_with_HD_Voice_support#Sony
So, what makes you believe the Z5 or the new X series would not support HD Voice?
Also, the Z5 series reportedly supports VoLTE, depending on carrier of course:
http://www.areamobile.de/news/32061-voice-over-lte-diese-smartphones-unterstuetzen-lte-telefonate
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Can't verify it myself as I don't have a Z5 series phone, but according to a list on Wikipedia the Z5 series does have HD Voice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_with_HD_Voice_support#Sony
So, what makes you believe the Z5 or the new X series would not support HD Voice?
Also, the Z5 series reportedly supports VoLTE, depending on carrier of course:
http://www.areamobile.de/news/32061-voice-over-lte-diese-smartphones-unterstuetzen-lte-telefonate
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sxtester,
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing these links. It seems that perhaps Sony DID put VoLTE on these phones. But I am in the process of reaching someone at Sony internally (via T-Mobile's "contact" person who works at Sony Mobile) to verify all this. But this is very promising news, and MUCH appreciated!! The MAIN thing is to find out whether or not the Xperia X Performance will have VoLTE or not, and if they have already certified VoLTE with T-Mobile or not? See this link in order to follow up over the next week or two.
Thanks!!
Sony has included VoLTE on the XP, I think the intl, version is the same as the Hong Kong Version, I have personal seen this feature on the retail version of the XP, just a few more days before I get mine.
The ones that had it were carrier specific Z5s there is no universal volte unless sony certified with the carriers for the model
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Sony has included VoLTE on the XP, I think the intl, version is the same as the Hong Kong Version, I have personal seen this feature on the retail version of the XP, just a few more days before I get mine.
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hey kms,
That's the thing........ we're not 100% sure the HK version is the same as the int'l version. It might be, but I'd rather know for sure. I will find out soon enough (see last few posts) whether or not the XP will have VoLTE on it or not, etc.
A few days? Nice!! Lucky! lol I probably still got another month before I get it. lol
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I was selected to test Japanese carrier's X Performance before launching in Japan
I will get international Dual (F8132), though.
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Hello,
I know this is out of topic. But could you please let me know if the X Performance uses in-cell touch display? This can be done by checking the screen if it has "patterns" on the screen like the Z3.
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Hello,
I know this is out of topic. But could you please let me know if the X Performance uses in-cell touch display? This can be done by checking the screen if it has "patterns" on the screen like the Z3.
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Yes, X Performance uses in-cell touch display.
I can't see patterns and Sony's developer explained they used in-cell to make unified design.
I can also confirm it uses in-cell because there is touch driver for in-cell in kernel source.
HD voice uses 3g signals (H, H+, 3g)
VoLTE uses (obviously) true 4g signals (4g, LTE)
It is up to networks to provide access to the services as they are done on a network level, not handset level
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corallus said:
HD voice uses 3g signals (H, H+, 3g)
VoLTE uses (obviously) true 4g signals (4g, LTE)
It is up to networks to provide access to the services as they are done on a network level, not handset level
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Hey corallus,
How u been?
So is there a way to make my int'l XP I just bought get 4G on a call instead of what it HAS been doing which is switching back and forth from 3G and H+/3.5G?
Not bad dude,
It's one of those things where you gonna have to speak to T-mobile.
It MAY depend on the phone having their firmware on, it normally does.. But, guessing not released on their network yet..
Give them a call and see what plans they have for providing the service on their network.
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corallus said:
Not bad dude,
It's one of those things where you gonna have to speak to T-mobile.
It MAY depend on the phone having their firmware on, it normally does.. But, guessing not released on their network yet..
Give them a call and see what plans they have for providing the service on their network.
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corallus,
Yeah I was gonna give them a call prob tomorrow about it. My Contacts app is being weird too, and Wi-Fi is acting a lil funny too on my phone. So I decided to just use Xperia Companion to wipe the phone clean and reinstall the software. I'm HOPING that does the trick. I guess I'll find out shortly.
I know they'll prob say they can't do anything about it, but can't hurt to call them. Since I bought the phone unlocked (like I had a choice Sony?! lol) that's not gonna help much, plus it's the int'l version of the XP too. So I dunno. We'll see what they say.
AndroPlus said:
I was selected to test Japanese carrier's X Performance before launching in Japan
I will get international Dual (F8132), though.
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Hi, I have got a X performance today, do you want to make a custome kernel for XP?
I can comfirm that VoLTE is on my unit.
without a VoLTE Usim, the icon does not show, but once a supported Usim is inserted, the VoLTE will show up, and operative.
PLEASE only respond if you live in the US and use T-Mobile (preferred) or AT&T AND have purchased the US version of the XP.................
Not sure if the US Xperia X Performance has been made available yet, but if so, can anyone tell me if it can get VoLTE on either T-Mobile or AT&T? Just wonder if radio/signal-wise it's any different than the int'l XP I have now.
Thanks!
what is the model of the intl version? we can lookup the whitepaper on them and compare the radios
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what is the model of the intl version? we can lookup the whitepaper on them and compare the radios
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Same model #s: F8132 for dual SIM (mine), F8131 for single-SIM.
they're the exact same radio according to Sony. so hardware wise if intl can do it so can us version. but do the carriers allow it is a whole other issue.
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they're the exact same radio according to Sony. so hardware wise if intl can do it so can us version. but do the carriers allow it is a whole other issue.
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Ok thanks for checking acme! Well the XP has all the same bands as T-Mobile, so they should! Though I found out that XPs used in other countries like Hong Kong DO get VoLTE (I've seen screenshots too), but in the US, both AT&T and T-Mobile SIM cards don't enable that. Weird! I'd still like someone WITH a US XP to confirm that they do or don't have VoLTE though on AT&T and/or T-Mobile.
Yeah like today I was in downtown Chicago with family, and like my parents have the Sony Xperia Z1s (locked phone from T-Mobile). We were down by Navy Pier (by Lake Michigan), and my dad's Z1s (released Jan 2014) was getting better reception than my brand new int'l XP (unlocked not through T-Mobile but from Sony b/c Sony are idiots who don't release phones through carriers anymore and I hate them for it lol).
Now, I thought this was maybe b/c their phones were from T-Mobile so they'd been "configured" to their network, but then my sister's b/f was saying that some of the older model phones have better radio reception than the newer ones b/c the newer ones have more crap CRAMMED into them, which can impede radio reception, despite the XP having a polycarbonate (aka plastic lol) frame which is supposed give you better reception than metal would.
You think that's it? Or do you think it has something to do with the XP not being "configured" by T-Mobile??
Thanks.
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Ok thanks for checking acme! Well the XP has all the same bands as T-Mobile, so they should! Though I found out that XPs used in other countries like Hong Kong DO get VoLTE (I've seen screenshots too), but in the US, both AT&T and T-Mobile SIM cards don't enable that. Weird! I'd still like someone WITH a US XP to confirm that they do or don't have VoLTE though on AT&T and/or T-Mobile.
Yeah like today I was in downtown Chicago with family, and like my parents have the Sony Xperia Z1s (locked phone from T-Mobile). We were down by Navy Pier (by Lake Michigan), and my dad's Z1s (released Jan 2014) was getting better reception than my brand new int'l XP (unlocked not through T-Mobile but from Sony b/c Sony are idiots who don't release phones through carriers anymore and I hate them for it lol).
Now, I thought this was maybe b/c their phones were from T-Mobile so they'd been "configured" to their network, but then my sister's b/f was saying that some of the older model phones have better radio reception than the newer ones b/c the newer ones have more crap CRAMMED into them, which can impede radio reception, despite the XP having a polycarbonate (aka plastic lol) frame which is supposed give you better reception than metal would.
You think that's it? Or do you think it has something to do with the XP not being "configured" by T-Mobile??
Thanks.
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i'd bet money it has something to do with a configuration. If Sony already designed a phone where all the radios work why would they break it in later iterations, doesn't make sense. it's also illegal to say the phone can do this and that when it actually can't.
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i'd bet money it has something to do with a configuration. If Sony already designed a phone where all the radios work why would they break it in later iterations, doesn't make sense. it's also illegal to say the phone can do this and that when it actually can't.
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Ok then how do I reconfigure it? lol If it was that the radio was just better/stronger on the Z1s that's one thing, but if it was that my XP somehow wasn't configured "well enough" to T-Mobile's network, despite having all the same bands, then how do I fix that? lol
It could be that the phones are designed a certain way but then the carriers (when they get them to sell) do some extra configuring or tweaking too?
I remember being again in another part of downtown 2 years ago and 2 friends of mine who both had Sprint and the same phone (Galaxy S3) had differing reception. One had all 5 bars lit up, while the other who was only sitting 5 feet away, had like no reception. WTF? lol That's what happened yest except 2 different phones though both are Sony, oh and mine of course is unlocked int'l version.
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Ok then how do I reconfigure it? lol If it was that the radio was just better/stronger on the Z1s that's one thing, but if it was that my XP somehow wasn't configured "well enough" to T-Mobile's network, despite having all the same bands, then how do I fix that? lol
It could be that the phones are designed a certain way but then the carriers (when they get them to sell) do some extra configuring or tweaking too?
I remember being again in another part of downtown 2 years ago and 2 friends of mine who both had Sprint and the same phone (Galaxy S3) had differing reception. One had all 5 bars lit up, while the other who was only sitting 5 feet away, had like no reception. WTF? lol That's what happened yest except 2 different phones though both are Sony, oh and mine of course is unlocked int'l version.
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you probably can't do anything. it'd be on the carrier end.
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you probably can't do anything. it'd be on the carrier end.
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F'ers!! lol
Thanks anyway acme.
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F'ers!! lol
Thanks anyway acme.
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Just clarify, volte is locked only to tmobile phones unless the company goes get the phone certified (zte axon 7 went this route and HTC 10)
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Just clarify, volte is locked only to tmobile phones unless the company goes get the phone certified (zte axon 7 went this route and HTC 10)
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Sov,
Yeah I know. All I REALLY care about is that I can get Band 12 for data from T-Mobile on my int'l Sony Xperia X Performance phone. I think I can, b/c that has NOTHING to do with VoLTE, which only is used DURING phone calls. I don't care about having Band 12 during phone calls, but I DO care about having it when not on a call.
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Yeah I know. All I REALLY care about is that I can get Band 12 for data from T-Mobile on my int'l Sony Xperia X Performance phone. I think I can, b/c that has NOTHING to do with VoLTE, which only is used DURING phone calls. I don't care about having Band 12 during phone calls, but I DO care about having it when not on a call.
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Band 12 works but you gotta find it like a unicorn
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Band 12 works but you gotta find it like a unicorn
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Haha..........so you have the int'l Sony Xperia X Perf on T-Mobile AND live in the U.S.??? Or know someone that does?
Well I live in Chicago which right now doesn't have Band 12 from T-Mobile. HOWEVER, a few mos ago T-Mobile bought a ton of Band 12 from an AT&T subsidiary, and so now it's only a matter of time before my entire area gets it (pending FCC approval). They say it could be as early as later this year or latest is prob next June. I'll know when it's available b/c T-Mobile will announce but I can also check their spectrum map too. When the area covered by the green circle around Chicago becomes "magenta" and has a bunch of circled 12s put into it, then that'll mean it's live. Can't wait!!
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Haha..........so you have the int'l Sony Xperia X Perf on T-Mobile AND live in the U.S.??? Or know someone that does?
Well I live in Chicago which right now doesn't have Band 12 from T-Mobile. HOWEVER, a few mos ago T-Mobile bought a ton of Band 12 from an AT&T subsidiary, and so now it's only a matter of time before my entire area gets it (pending FCC approval). They say it could be as early as later this year or latest is prob next June. I'll know when it's available b/c T-Mobile will announce but I can also check their spectrum map too. When the area covered by the green circle around Chicago becomes "magenta" and has a bunch of circled 12s put into it, then that'll mean it's live. Can't wait!!
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Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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Oh wow! That's great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have T-Mobile too though????!
I just wanna be able to get reception (data) in certain areas in downtown like at the Ogilvie Metra Station basement, Untitled club on Kinzie, etc. I'm hoping that Band 12/700 MHz will make that happen. But also for when I'm indoors in certain places in the suburbs.
Thanks for sharing this great info!! I figured it would but wasn't sure. I think the ppl who said no were thinking of VoLTE, or aka having 4G LTE data and/or voice DURING calls.
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Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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So do you have T-Mobile too?
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So do you have T-Mobile too?
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Yes sir, going to complain though to Sony, if a brand like zte can get certified to use t-mobile's volte than they should be able to >:/
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Yes sir, going to complain though to Sony, if a brand like zte can get certified to use t-mobile's volte than they should be able to >:/
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Awesome! Good to know!!
Haha...........I already tried doing that. I even had someone at T-Mobile's "Network team" contact their "contact" over at Sony Mobile about that issue. Last I heard, they never heard back from the Sony guy. lol But go ahead.........can't hurt!
I couldn't agree more. It's ****ing BS. It's the least they could do after not giving the US Z5 and X Perf a working fingerprint sensor. lol
I was just wondering...........will Sony phones like the upcoming Xperia XZ3 (U.S. version, release date: 10/17/2018) be able to access ALL of AT&T's network radio bands without VoLTE certification? I know T-Mobile doesn't allow access to their 700 MHz spectrum (aka Band 12) without VoLTE certification, but does AT&T require the same thing? Or will users get FULL access, just no VoLTE?? Also, does AT&T actually require VoLTE certification??
Thank You!
I'm on T-mobile and VoLTE works fine. I inserted my coworker's AT&T sim and had the option to enable VoLTE. Unfortunately, I did not think to actually test it.
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I'm on T-mobile and VoLTE works fine. I inserted my coworker's AT&T sim and had the option to enable VoLTE. Unfortunately, I did not think to actually test it.
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Hi.......thanks for responding!
Wait.........which exact Xperia phone do you have, and is it a U.S. version or int'l? I know it can't be the XZ3 as it (the U.S. version) doesn't get released on Amazon until next Wednesday.
Ok wait.........nevermind. Your signature logo tells me you have the 2017 XZ Premium. But is it the U.S. version or int'l??
Ok that is interesting about your phone showing the option to enable VoLTE with your co-worker's AT&T SIM card too. I'm sure if it actually showed up as an option that wasn't grayed out then it should definitely work too.
I wanted to know if a company like Sony didn't certify VoLTE with AT&T, would people who use their phones on AT&T's network get full access to ALL of AT&T's radio bands or no. If what you're saying is true, then perhaps they do? I don't know. lol
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Hi.......thanks for responding!
Wait.........which exact Xperia phone do you have, and is it a U.S. version or int'l? I know it can't be the XZ3 as it (the U.S. version) doesn't get released on Amazon until next Wednesday.
Ok wait.........nevermind. Your signature logo tells me you have the 2017 XZ Premium. But is it the U.S. version or int'l??
Ok that is interesting about your phone showing the option to enable VoLTE with your co-worker's AT&T SIM card too. I'm sure if it actually showed up as an option that wasn't grayed out then it should definitely work too.
I wanted to know if a company like Sony didn't certify VoLTE with AT&T, would people who use their phones on AT&T's network get full access to ALL of AT&T's radio bands or no. If what you're saying is true, then perhaps they do? I don't know. lol
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I have the XZ3. I bought it from Clove (UK), flashed with US firmware. The signature doesn't have the XZ3 in their database yet, so I can't update it. I'd love to test it for you again tomorrow when I get to work, however he's on vacation for 2 weeks.
iArvee said:
I have the XZ3. I bought it from Clove (UK), flashed with US firmware. The signature doesn't have the XZ3 in their database yet, so I can't update it. I'd love to test it for you again tomorrow when I get to work, however he's on vacation for 2 weeks.
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Oh wow, cool!
So basically you're running a U.S. version then it seems, which is helpful.
Ha! Of course he is. Just my luck! lol
It's fine. I have T-Mobile, but thought that was a "dead issue" since Sony ONLY OFFICIALLY certified the XZ1 Compact with T-Mobile. When he gets back that would be cool if you could though as I have a friend who has AT&T and would like to know.
I guess I'm just shocked b/c this site doesn't have any information about really any recent Xperia flagships having VoLTE (and therefore access to Band 12/700 MHz). So you've tested your phone out using some kind of app to confirm that it can ACTUALLY access T-Mobile's Band 12 spectrum?? And I assume it stays on 4G LTE during calls too? (Please kindly answer both questions.)
Even if all this is true, what sux is the XZ3 (all versions) apparently DOESN'T have Band 71/600 MHz (under 4G LTE) spectrum programmed on it, regardless of version. And according to a recent update from T-Mobile, my area (Chicagoland region) is about to get that exact radio band by like the end of the year. Uggh.........f'ing Sony Mobile! lol
RockStar2005 said:
Oh wow, cool!
So basically you're running a U.S. version then it seems, which is helpful.
Ha! Of course he is. Just my luck! lol
It's fine. I have T-Mobile, but thought that was a "dead issue" since Sony ONLY OFFICIALLY certified the XZ1 Compact with T-Mobile. When he gets back that would be cool if you could though as I have a friend who has AT&T and would like to know.
I guess I'm just shocked b/c this site doesn't have any information about really any recent Xperia flagships having VoLTE (and therefore access to Band 12/700 MHz). So you've tested your phone out using some kind of app to confirm that it can ACTUALLY access T-Mobile's Band 12 spectrum?? And I assume it stays on 4G LTE during calls too? (Please kindly answer both questions.)
Even if all this is true, what sux is the XZ3 (all versions) apparently DOESN'T have Band 71/600 MHz (under 4G LTE) spectrum programmed on it, regardless of version. And according to a recent update from T-Mobile, my area (Chicagoland region) is about to get that exact radio band by like the end of the year. Uggh.........f'ing Sony Mobile! lol
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I used LTE Discovery to check what band I'm on and it's saying Band 4. And yes, it stays on LTE during calls. Refer to screenshots (attachments).
iArvee said:
I used LTE Discovery to check what band I'm on and it's saying Band 4. And yes, it stays on LTE during calls. Refer to screenshots (attachments).
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Yes, that's the app, LTE Discovery! I couldn't remember the name of it earlier. lol
Did they finally add Band 71/600 MHz to its list of bands it can detect??
So can I presume that 4G LTE & LTE+ are the exact same thing??
Ok but what about Band 12 though? That's the band that T-Mobile is supposed to require VoLTE certification for in order to access it. An LTE Discovery screenshot of that (must be during a call) would be great actually! I believe it can access Band 12 for data, but the thing I care about is having access to it for calls.
And ok your profile says you're from or in Manila?? I'm confused. lol I hope it's just from b/c if you're not in the U.S. then this info is kinda useless to me. lol
Thanks!!!!!!!
RockStar2005 said:
Yes, that's the app, LTE Discovery! I couldn't remember the name of it earlier. lol
Did they finally add Band 71/600 MHz to its list of bands it can detect??
So can I presume that 4G LTE & LTE+ are the exact same thing??
Ok but what about Band 12 though? That's the band that T-Mobile is supposed to require VoLTE certification for in order to access it. An LTE Discovery screenshot of that (must be during a call) would be great actually! You I believe can access Band 12 for data, but the thing I care about is having access to it for calls.
And ok your profile says you're from or in Manila?? I'm confused. lol I hope it's just from b/c if you're not in the U.S. then this info is kinda useless to me. lol
Thanks!!!!!!!
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I'm not sure if they added Band 71, doesn't really say in the app. I guess you'll have to contact the developer for that. I have no knowledge of where Band 12 is deployed. I'm in the Philadelphia area right now. Signature is just where I'm from.
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I'm not sure if they added Band 71, doesn't really say in the app. I guess you'll have to contact the developer for that. I have no knowledge of where Band 12 is deployed. I'm in the Philadelphia area right now. Signature is just where I'm from.
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Oh ok. Not a big deal. I can just download it again and check it too. It would say in the Settings. When my area first got Band 12/700 MHz, I used the app to detect and notify me of every time it found a Band 12 signal. Shortly after, it began to pop up when I was like in elevators and parts of downtown Chicago, etc., which made me very happy. lol
You can check this map, though of course I think Band 12 will only get utilized when Bands 2 & 4 are not available. Philly? Ok great!! It appears you do have it too.
Well so far this is really great news!! I just can't understand why no one else is confirming this like on that site I linked earlier?? I would assume the U.S. version then will have it too since your firmware is U.S. for the XZ3.
Nice. I used to have a good friend who was Filipino too. Just lost touch over the years.
Thanks again so much!!
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I'm not sure if they added Band 71, doesn't really say in the app. I guess you'll have to contact the developer for that. I have no knowledge of where Band 12 is deployed. I'm in the Philadelphia area right now. Signature is just where I'm from.
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I checked and LTE Discovery does NOT currently offer Band 71 detection at this time. So I e-mailed the developer a few hours ago and requested it. Hopefully they add it soon so I can detect Band 71 when it hits my area in the next few months.
Thanks again for all your input! Much appreciated! I will check back with you in a couple weeks. In the mean time, I'm honestly CONSIDERING buying the U.S. XZ3 off Amazon (gets released next Wed) and testing it out myself. LOL I get Band 12 in my condo elevator and parking lot too sometimes, so I should be able to get a screenshot of the phone in Band 12 DURING a call via LTE Discovery when it's detected. But I doubt I'd keep it up cuz no Band 71. FML! lol Still, I'd wanna know for myself so that perhaps when the XZ4 comes out (or XZ3 Premium) if it will have Band 71 and VoLTE confirmed, I will most likely buy & keep it.
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I checked and LTE Discovery does NOT currently offer Band 71 detection at this time. So I e-mailed the developer a few hours ago and requested it. Hopefully they add it soon so I can detect Band 71 when it hits my area in the next few months.
Thanks again for all your input! Much appreciated! I will check back with you in a couple weeks. In the mean time, I'm honestly CONSIDERING buying the U.S. XZ3 off Amazon (gets released next Wed) and testing it out myself. LOL I get Band 12 in my condo elevator and parking lot too sometimes, so I should be able to get a screenshot of the phone in Band 12 DURING a call via LTE Discovery when it's detected. But I doubt I'd keep it up cuz no Band 71. FML! lol Still, I'd wanna know for myself so that perhaps when the XZ4 comes out (or XZ3 Premium) if it will have Band 71 and VoLTE confirmed, I will most likely buy & keep it.
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Yeah, the XZ3 is a really nice phone. Comparing it with my XZP, I believe it's a nice upgrade. Not a required upgrade, but still a nice one. You can also just wait for it to be available in Best Buy or something so you can try the phone out without buying it. If it comes out in Best Buy. I assume it will, since the XZ2P was.
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I have the XZ3. I bought it from Clove (UK), flashed with US firmware. The signature doesn't have the XZ3 in their database yet, so I can't update it. I'd love to test it for you again tomorrow when I get to work, however he's on vacation for 2 weeks.
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I just got mine from clove as well - I'm on ATT and I don't see the option for VoLTE. Can you tell me where you found the US firmware and how to flash it? Thanks
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I just got mine from clove as well - I'm on ATT and I don't see the option for VoLTE. Can you tell me where you found the US firmware and how to flash it? Thanks
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Yeah, it won't show since you're still on UK firmware. Download the US firmware from Xperifirm, then use newflasher to flash it. Flashtool doesn't support the XZ3 yet.
After I used newflasher, things didn't feel right, so I just used the Xperia Companion to do a Software Repair. Basically the same thing as a full wipe, but it'll just download the latest firmware from the region you're currently on.
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Yeah, the XZ3 is a really nice phone. Comparing it with my XZP, I believe it's a nice upgrade. Not a required upgrade, but still a nice one. You can also just wait for it to be available in Best Buy or something so you can try the phone out without buying it. If it comes out in Best Buy. I assume it will, since the XZ2P was.
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Yeah I would agree. Yes the XZP has a 4K screen, but not HDR (which of course the XZ2 P got both). The XZ3 having 2K + HDR is really something. Yeah plus it's 18:9 which I DEF prefer over 16:9, and yeah 845 processor.
Typically both Best Buy & Amazon get the newest Xperia phones. But for some reason, even at this point, it appears ONLY Amazon will carry the U.S. XZ3.
So...........even though it won't have Band 71/600 MHz when released, I decided to STILL go ahead and pre-order the U.S. XZ3 off Amazon (release date: next Wed) JUST to confirm for myself what you said and showed me................that with the U.S. firmware, the XZ3 WILL get VoLTE on T-Mobile and therefore will STAY in Band 12 & 4G LTE/LTE+ while on a call as well. If I can confirm this, that is HUGE. HUGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEE!!!! lol
I will of course keep you posted. In the elevator for my condo building b/c the reception is bad there, my phone always at one point switches to Band 12..........and THAT is when I'll strike. When my LTE Discovery app detects Band 12 being utilized, I will make a call right away, and if it stays in 4G LTE, then it's confirmed. If not, F U Sony Mobile!!!!!! F U and die! lol Then for XZ4 or XZ3 Premium, as long as they add Band 71/600 MHz (which my area will get activated on T-Mobile's network by about the end of this year), I'm 99.9% buying it. lol
Thanks again!!
Good luck RockStar2005, I am not optimistic, I hope it works with T-Mobile VoLTE.
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Good luck RockStar2005, I am not optimistic, I hope it works with T-Mobile VoLTE.
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Hey hnt20.......thanks! lol
How ya been?
Well I hope it works too! But if not, it will be nice to say I got to try out the newest and even greatest Xperia phone in years!
Hope all is well with you.
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I'm on T-mobile and VoLTE works fine. I inserted my coworker's AT&T sim and had the option to enable VoLTE. Unfortunately, I did not think to actually test it.
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Are you sure VOLTE works on T-Mobile? It used to switch "H" on calls. How about wifi calling?
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Are you sure VOLTE works on T-Mobile? It used to switch "H" on calls. How about wifi calling?
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Yes, 100% sure. Are you running the US firmware?
Can't seem to find wifi calling in the settings.
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Yeah, it won't show since you're still on UK firmware. Download the US firmware from Xperifirm, then use newflasher to flash it. Flashtool doesn't support the XZ3 yet.
After I used newflasher, things didn't feel right, so I just used the Xperia Companion to do a Software Repair. Basically the same thing as a full wipe, but it'll just download the latest firmware from the region you're currently on.
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Unfortunately, I'm running into some errors while trying to flash via newflasher:
no usb device with vid:0x0fce pid:0xb00b !
Press any key to continue . . .
Am I missing something? I have the XZ3 in flash mode (green led, no screen on) and the newflasher.exe in the firmware directory. Am I missing something?
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Unfortunately, I'm running into some errors while trying to flash via newflasher:
no usb device with vid:0x0fce pid:0xb00b !
Press any key to continue . . .
Am I missing something? I have the XZ3 in flash mode (green led, no screen on) and the newflasher.exe in the firmware directory. Am I missing something?
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Did you install the gordon gate drivers? Also make sure that you installed the XZ3 drivers too. (https://developer.sony.com/develop/drivers/)