Not going to spam the sapphire forum, but because i mainly live in the G1 area I would like you all to know that I have developed a whole new Home Replacement called GDE. It has transitions like a cube, configurable toolbar buttons etc etc.
A link to the G1 thread ( with all features and some movies ) so i dont have to copy all of it over and over:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4698010#post4698010
I have tested this on a G1 and a G2, but it should also run great on a Sapphire. If anyone has tried it please let me know how it works on your devices!
Downloaded to my mytouch and so far i'm liking it.
Couple of suggestions
1. For the option on the launch bar to bring up the phone, can you make it bring up the dialer and not the recent call list? kinda like the Hero
2. Now, when you press the menu button, the app tray pops up. I'd prefer if the normal menu would pop up. The one that has the option to change wallpaper, notifications, etc.
3. if there is a way, when trashing an icon, to make the whole bottom bar the trash, not just the bottom left corner.
4. the possibility to skin the launcher. (edit: i see in the original post that you said your working on this)
bugs i've noticed:
-when # of visible screens is set to 3 and default desktop is set to 1, you can not scroll all the way through. if you swipe right or left one time thats all that you can do. it doesn't allow you to swipe again to get to the home screen. edit: i forgot to mention that its when its in stretch mode and it doesn't work on any configuration (ie default desktop 1,2,etc). it works fine on cube
-when changing an option that require the restart of the launcher, it pops up the last used application such as sms or gmail.
thanks
Thanks for your input,
Downloaded to my mytouch and so far i'm liking it.
Couple of suggestions
1. For the option on the launch bar to bring up the phone, can you make it bring up the dialer and not the recent call list? kinda like the Hero
That indeed could be something to look at... i will look into it
2. Now, when you press the menu button, the app tray pops up. I'd prefer if the normal menu would pop up. The one that has the option to change wallpaper, notifications, etc.
The hard-menu button will be configurable in the near future, so you can set it to open up any menu you like i.e. settings... The control panel is going to get a lot bigger so it should allow you to do "almost" all things you were able to do in the past... and some more of course
3. if there is a way, when trashing an icon, to make the whole bottom bar the trash, not just the bottom left corner.
Well when you drag the right button will change into the trash... The left button is also context sensitive and in the future this will bring up a settings menu in which you can uninstall the app etc etc. I will give the icon the original red corner because the hit area isnt as clear this way ( its much bigger then you will think )
4. the possibility to skin the launcher. (edit: i see in the original post that you said your working on this)
bugs i've noticed:
-when # of visible screens is set to 3 and default desktop is set to 1, you can not scroll all the way through. if you swipe right or left one time thats all that you can do. it doesn't allow you to swipe again to get to the home screen. edit: i forgot to mention that its when its in stretch mode and it doesn't work on any configuration (ie default desktop 1,2,etc). it works fine on cube
The other transitions dont have endless scroll "yet"... I am working on implementing this into stretch and fade. The original transition can never support this, because of some technical reasons.
-when changing an option that require the restart of the launcher, it pops up the last used application such as sms or gmail.
thanks
I will see if i can make it so that it comes back to life again... it now forcefully kills GDE to clear out everything
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Once again thanks for your input... this is what hopefully will make it the better home replacement.. If you ever come up with ideas, notice bugs or whatever dont hesitate to contact me
One thing i forgot to ask... Can you tell me how the transition speed is on a sapphire? I havent had a chance to run it on one... for now only the G1 and the G2.
On the G2 the cube transition is really fluid... So i hope it will also be on the Sapphire as they are the same hardware/memory wise if im not mistaking.
There are two versions of the Sapphire, one with 32B and one with 32A board. All Google/Vodafone/TIM/Provider branded sapphires are the 32B versions... which has ~182MB RAM, all sapphires with a HTC logo at the front are 32A and have ~290 MB RAM...
So your statement was partly correct
Loving the looks of your launcher by the way, reminds me of LG phones though ^^.
Ok thanks for the clarification and for loving the looks of course
I must be honest... I have never had an LG phone nor seen the interface.. So if it does im a good copycat without knowing ..
it seems pretty smooth. there is a little lag intermittently but not horrible. To get a good comparison I would need to have another phone to compare it too. But so far I'm liking it.
A thing I would like to see is a dock of 4 customisable icons (like the iPhone has yes...) and a shortcut on a different place to pull up the menu The 4x4 crap stucks :/ the 3 buttons take up too much space... I want my own icons there
I downloaded ur app btw because it has so much potential
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One thing i forgot to ask... Can you tell me how the transition speed is on a sapphire? I havent had a chance to run it on one... for now only the G1 and the G2.
On the G2 the cube transition is really fluid... So i hope it will also be on the Sapphire as they are the same hardware/memory wise if im not mistaking.
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By rights if it's fluid on the G1 it should be on the Sapphire as they're so similar. I've tested tried it out on my 32B and the 'stretch' and 'fade' effects are as smooth as silk, though 'cube' is alittle clunky even with the CPU at 528.
I'll throw in an iddy-biddy suggestion/request; could we get a configurable bottom-bar in a future build? I'd love to may it a bit darker or semi-transparent. Either way, no biggy.
Overall this is a killer Home replacement, and I'm really looking forward to seeing it mature. A big thank-you to you, Rogro.
Additional: Scrolling through the applications list is really choppy in both grid and list.
Thanks for the reply.
I will look into the grid/listview on my phone the listview is smooth although the grid suffers some lag. its related to the transparancy, but i will fix it asap.
About the configurable toolbar... I am working out the whole theming support, so hopefully soon you will be able to adjust it to anything you want it to be.
Thank you Rogro82 !
i made a video ( 0.1.1 ) to show all transitions and some options.
runing on a Sapphire ( 32B versions )
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7178 men (and women maybe ) saw your app
I will make a new one with your new version with all features ( Theming option , Dock widget ,Google Search widget..)
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Thanks man!
Already seen the video and its looking great!
Let me know when you have a new video online. Love to see reviews!
multilang.
hey rogro, are u able to add Multilang to this app, this would be rly nice.
i will help to translate to german if u want
(and a function to custom the function of the middle-button, so the hero theme will look like a real hero (and the palm theme also) )
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You have to try those to believe how good the Winterface application is. I saw the review on Tiltsite.com today, downloaded it and immediately loved it. It is extremely finger friendly, the interface is very intuitive and beautifully designed. It also uses minimum amount of system resource thus is very efficient.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/vito-mobile-shell.html
Their FunContacts is also a gem to have. Extremly finger friendly, smooth scrolling of the contact list like the iPhone. It absolutely replaces the old school "stylus-required" contact application included in WM6.1.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
I've also tried their Zoomboard application, I think it's a good concept, however there is room for improvement. It is still quite slow to type on the Zoomboard application. However the accuracy of the text is improved dramatically because of the zoomed in text let you see what you've pressed on the screen. But it still can't beat Kaiser/Tilt's excellent keyboard for typing.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/onscreen-keyboard.html
Enough said, I strongly encourage people to try it out. It will be a investment well spend. They also have a whole lot of other nicely designed applications on their webpage, check them out too.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/
seems like alot to spend on a couple of good apps that already exist freely...iContact, HTC album (for the photo thing) and even the (Samsung Glyde copy) button interface all exist free of charge. I'd have to see better to be convinced to put down $40 for 2 apps.
how do you install over an existing GUI... today screen , start menu, taskbar, etc???..
does it wipe them all out?
can you go back easily?
tahnx
nufsaid said:
seems like alot to spend on a couple of good apps that already exist freely...iContact, HTC album (for the photo thing) and even the (Samsung Glyde copy) button interface all exist free of charge. I'd have to see better to be convinced to put down $40 for 2 apps.
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Just some extra options for people to try, you don't lose money for trying it..
amkaos said:
how do you install over an existing GUI... today screen , start menu, taskbar, etc???..
does it wipe them all out?
can you go back easily?
tahnx
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I don't know what to say other than, yes, no, yes!
Conflicts
Do you know of any conflicts with this app? I have HHC installed right now.
amkaos said:
how do you install over an existing GUI... today screen , start menu, taskbar, etc???..
does it wipe them all out?
can you go back easily?
tahnx
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You slide your finger in an arc to enable the interface from your home screen or anywhere else. You can click okay button and easily go back to normal interface if you choose to do so.
When phone is unlocked in Winterface, you can "slide to unlock" the phone with a touch of a finger.
I installed this over Garmin's DK1 WM6.1 cooked rom, so far everything works smooth as silk. Garmin's DK1 includes HTC Home v2.0.1812282.1 that I enabled in my home screen. This app run dependent of HTC Home plugin so there is no problems that I found.
In my opinion this app totally replaces HTC Home just because it is much more intuitive (it displays # of new message you got or # of missed calls you have and stuff like that). Couple finger movement after you can reach almost any application on the phone.
I don't work for this company or anything... Just think it's a really cool app to try.
And after couple hours of useage, here is a little short list of pros and rooms for improvement:
Pro -
Extremly finger friendly, smooth flow, elegant design layout.
Low memory useage, fast start up anywhere in the OS.
Very intuitive interface, texts under icons are extremely useful, compare to some other apps who only incorporated icons.
Love to be able to mix and match the apps I need and put them in order I want.
Room for improvement -
Slide to unlock button will disappear if a phone call caused the phone to lock itself, the phone would also lock itself unwanted after a phone call is in progress. It is annoying because when you want to press the keys on the screen, you find the phone locked with slide to unlock.
Contrast of the default icons are rather low (The whites are a bit above mid gray color)
Would be nice to flip from first page to last and then from last to first in one direction.
Would be nice to have option to display non-clear type fonts, my eye don't see well under clear type fonts.
Too bad SMS-Chat and FunContact have problem displaying typed text in landscape orientation in windows mobile 6.1 device (no problem in 6.0 though), or they would work great alone side Winterface.
bennyj71 said:
Do you know of any conflicts with this app? I have HHC installed right now.
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so, how do i get that display of clock and slide to unlock?
edit :: wait, i get it.. this doesnt come w/anything else..
i like it -- really fast and nice to look at..
thanx..
Hmm,
I found quirks about the FunContact... Clear Type fonts used in that application will make all the typed in text display go blank when viewed in landscape mode... not recommended......
lifanus said:
Hmm,
I found quirks about the FunContact... Clear Type fonts used in that application will make all the typed in text display go blank when viewed in landscape mode... not recommended......
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doesnt that always happen in landscape + clear type ?
amkaos said:
doesnt that always happen in landscape + clear type ?
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I think it does, the system wouldn't even let me enable clear type on landscape mode... Maybe that's why all those apps that use cleartype in landscape mode would not display typed text properly
nufsaid said:
seems like alot to spend on a couple of good apps that already exist freely...iContact, HTC album (for the photo thing) and even the (Samsung Glyde copy) button interface all exist free of charge. I'd have to see better to be convinced to put down $40 for 2 apps.
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I personally LOVE the Zoomboard because of it's accuracy when typing one-handed (usually while driving). Obviously, I also prefer the regular hard keyboard, but we all know that's not always an option.
What free software that is similar to Zoomboard are you talking about?
Has anyone else tried the new build?
What do you guys think?
I personally hate the new arrangement (with the close menu at the bottom). Plus it f.... up a lot of my apps as that bar seems to overlap on the menus of many apps.
I repeat what I posted on WMPoweruser:
My feelings are the same as before.
The UI is not consistent in it's look, some things are so bad.
What I like:
1. Homescreen
2. Enlarged task bar
3. Some UI elements enlarged
4. Smooth scrolling through almost anything
5. Apps menu when hitting windows icon.
6. New buttons added
I hate:
1. Too big menus – scrolling through menus is a pain in the ****ing ass.
Why do display 3 lines of text on a big screen?!
Hopefully it'll change on higher res devices though
2. New buttons look like ****. As well as scroll bar – it does not go anywhere
with the old UI look. I appreciate this "3D" attempt but it could be simpler!
3. All the elements are enlarged to the extent it looks like a dumb phone. Awful.
4. Hopefully the blue colour can be changed.
So, very mixed emotions as for me. But I hope this video is on TPro or Diamond,
so on 480×800 screens it will look smaller. What a waste of space, look at build in file manager
or the menu in Total Commander, IDIOTIC.
Double post
I like the 23022+ Builds, aside from 2 points.
1) The lower buttons now overlap my Manilla slightly, looks odd but doesn't really effect functionality.
2) Accessing task manager is MUCH harder.
Matt1408 said:
2) Accessing task manager is MUCH harder.
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What do you mean?
EDIT:
The leak 23034 looks so much better!
When I tap the top-right corner in 6.1/other 6.5 Roms I get the little drop down menu where it shows my open programs. On 6.5 (at least the rom I tried) was very iffy with that, I press the top right and I kept getting the enlarged notification bar.
I really hate the new look its just so messed up. just making things bigger doesn't mean its finger friendly. they just making things bigger. what if they remove the bottom bar and make it look more like android. they have to change alot on the interface.
whats preventing me to go android is that there is no good navigation software i have tomtom on my x1. if i didn't use tomtom i was gone from wm to android.
I hope for us that the final build will look better than this and i will stay with older builds without the bigger battom bar.
the only thing that i like is the homescreen with titanium and the scrolling but that was it.
23028 looks really incomplete, which is a bit off putting, but is obviously to be expected. 23034 looks a lot better, and both builds show MS is going in the right direction anyway. I just hope it can be sorted so the newer builds don't overlap with TouchFlo, cos it looks a bit weird when it does.
Looks good even still in Beta http://hpp.intuitit.mobi/home
Some Screenshots from my Magic attached.
it looks really nice.
Nice job...changing the UI altogether really puts a spin on it. I like it, but I have a bug. The bookmarks always forcecloses. I currently have Dolphin Browser set as the default and that might have something to do with it. Also, it looks a little weird when viewing the notifications because the top bar is missing. Overall, I think I'm going to make a permanent switch from dxTop to this.
I love this app!
Higgins12 said:
Looks good even still in Beta http://hpp.intuitit.mobi/home
Some Screenshots from my Magic attached.
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what clock widget u using bro?
The clock and date widget come with Home++. I'm using it too on my Mytouch and love it!
I am waiting for my new HTC magic and I am checking different stuff out with the emulator. I came across this homescreen++ and installed it.
I love it! It makes the interface so much smoother!
Great job and keep it up!
Thank you very much ^_^
I been using it for a few days now, very nice and thanks for making it free. The only bug I really come across is sometimes when I hit the home key it shows the right half of the home screen and the left half of the next screen to the right. I can easily move it to center it, no big deal. It hasent happened today yet (8 pm) but it did it twice yesterday.
best home replacement ever it is my default
What kind of speed hit are you guys getting? Or is it fast?
its same speed as the original one.
battery drain is minor.
I get lag from it, I stopped using it today because of it. I'm not going to uninstall it though.
Can I use this application while my MT3G is rooted? And how do I install it? I can't find it in the market place. Thanks to those who answer my questions.
You can use any app while your MT3G is rooted.
You install it like any other app.
From the market, search "home++" to find the app.
I really liked it - but the deal breaker was having no instant way to see if I had any new messages. I'm used to just looking in the upper left hand corner, not having to hit an extra press just to see.
ganns1980 said:
I really liked it - but the deal breaker was having no instant way to see if I had any new messages. I'm used to just looking in the upper left hand corner, not having to hit an extra press just to see.
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You can re-enable the notification bar on top by long pressing the notification button on bottom. That way, it stays on top all the time.
I love this program, fast and easy to use The best app. on home screen
I like it but uninstalled it until you can customize bottom icons a little more. Keep up the good work! Also, is there any way to have whatever alerts you have in the top status bar show in the Home++ status bar?
smacky63 said:
I like it but uninstalled it until you can customize bottom icons a little more. Keep up the good work! Also, is there any way to have whatever alerts you have in the top status bar show in the Home++ status bar?
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Yea this is currently my nr 1 annoyance in Home++, you should be able to put your own shortcuts here and the icons themselves should be customizable.
Also I would love to be able to categorize the apps in the dropdown panel.
Other than that I really love Home++, it's the fastest Home replacement app I've tried with the most useful features (task manager rocks).
So for an upcoming April Fool's joke I want to get my N1 to look like iOS. Any suggestions as far as ROMs and themes go? Icon packs should be easy to find. I'm pretty sure I could toy around with LauncherPro to get the general look, but the key to a good April Fools is in the details. That includes the Notification bar and some of the built in apps (Dialer, email, etc.) if possible. Splash and bootanimations would help too.
MIUI would do the trick very well. Visually it's pretty much iOS copy.
MIUI rom looks like IOS, check it out in development area if nexus one.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
MIUI always struck me as more of a TouchWiz clone than iOS, but I guess with some tweaks it would work... Probably a better start than CM at least. I guess it'd be too much to try to get the trackball to work like the app button on iOS and make the other buttons do nothing...
Scratch that last post. I didn't notice they've completely moved over the widgets and everything. MIUI should work nicely (assuming I can get the Notification bar done properly). For the button trick I'm thinking of just playing with the key bindings to get that to work and using QuickDesk for the double tap functionality. Anyone know what their app button does on a long press?
On iPhone4, if I'm not mistaken, it brings up the task manager.
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On iPhone4, if I'm not mistaken, it brings up the task manager.
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I thought that was a double tap. QuickDesk has a "QuickPanel" that shows the recent apps. If I just have that with no icons on the rest of it, it'll look really similar. Close enough that even an iOS user might not notice the difference (which is the ultimate goal)
One thing I miss from my iPod is being able to tap the top bar and have it take me to the to of the page. Would that be doable?
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Surely doing this to somebody elses phone would be a prank. Doing it to your own...??
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Surely doing this to somebody elses phone would be a prank. Doing it to your own...??
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Just changing it out isn't the prank, but it is a necessary part of the gag as a whole. At this point I've got the whole thing themed, slide to unlock looks right, the wallpaper doesn't scroll, double tapping the home button acts properly, and I've got a good plan of action for the face buttons. I'm down to two problems, the first being much more important: getting the Notification Bar to look like their Status Bar, and getting the icon jiggle when the launcher goes into edit mode(I'm using MIUI). I'm thinking I might have to change out the status bar layout xml in framework-res.apk. Does anyone know if there's a better way or if this will even work?
Anyone know how to implement the Universal Search feature of iOS? True the search widget more or less replicates the functionality, but I need it to look like and behave like Universal Search (needs to become full screen, and a second press on the home button needs to return to whatever home screen you were on). ideas?
ok, I am totally stuck. It looks like the notification bar is gonna be more than just a quick xml changeout in framework-res.apk. services.jar will have to be edited too. Does anyone have any experience at all with moving icons around on the status bar?
Hi all,
First off, I'm new to these forums, so please excuse me if this is the wrong place to post this question.
I recently got a HTC One and i'm looking to replace the standard ROM/firmware with one of the many custom ROMs. My main reasons are that i do not like the default Sense theme, i want to be able to customise things, and i want to be able to uninstall (or at lease, stop from automatically running) pre-installed apps like Facebook and Twitter.
I've looked at a few, and so far I really like MIUI. I like it's theme particular, and that it appears to be very customisable. ViperX says it's very customisable too.
So to help me decide, can you please answer some of my questions:
I currently use the Nova launcher to replace the default Sense one. Will i still be able to use this with any ROM?
Will i have to do anything with the service provider / carrier, like re-setup connection or something?
Can i still keep the default apps installed by the service provider. For example, there is one app that provides access to un-metered services (weather, news, etc) and shows data usage.
Do any have better text navigation? I'm frustrated with the standard text input, double-tapping on a word does not always select it, i have to tap multiple times before it brings up the menu to paste, cursor positioning is awkward. In iOS, you can double-tap then hold and drag to select multiple words (like in most desktop OSes). iOS also has better rules concerning when to make letters uppercase, especially when deleting/undoing text.
Are there any other sort of usability things to look for in custom ROMs? Things that would set one apart from the others?
As for a theme, I like the default MIUI one. If i don't go with MIUI, i'd want a theme like it. Matte, light grey background (possibly with black title bar, status bar, etc), orange highlights (on controls like progress bars), round borders. Gnome/Tango style icons. At the least, i could create my own theme based of a similar one.
Anyone?
I'm also not sure about device support. The only thing i can find on Viper X is an XDA page that mentions HTC One X. Is that different to HTC One?
Other ROMs mention support for specific HTC vendors (all American i assume). I got mine from Telstra in Australia, does that mean i should look for an "international" version of a ROM? What if there are none?
Hello?
try for your self its the best way
xtal256 said:
Hi all,
First off, I'm new to these forums, so please excuse me if this is the wrong place to post this question.
I recently got a HTC One and i'm looking to replace the standard ROM/firmware with one of the many custom ROMs. My main reasons are that i do not like the default Sense theme, i want to be able to customise things, and i want to be able to uninstall (or at lease, stop from automatically running) pre-installed apps like Facebook and Twitter.
I've looked at a few, and so far I really like MIUI. I like it's theme particular, and that it appears to be very customisable. ViperX says it's very customisable too.
So to help me decide, can you please answer some of my questions:
I currently use the Nova launcher to replace the default Sense one. Will i still be able to use this with any ROM?
Will i have to do anything with the service provider / carrier, like re-setup connection or something?
Can i still keep the default apps installed by the service provider. For example, there is one app that provides access to un-metered services (weather, news, etc) and shows data usage.
Do any have better text navigation? I'm frustrated with the standard text input, double-tapping on a word does not always select it, i have to tap multiple times before it brings up the menu to paste, cursor positioning is awkward. In iOS, you can double-tap then hold and drag to select multiple words (like in most desktop OSes). iOS also has better rules concerning when to make letters uppercase, especially when deleting/undoing text.
Are there any other sort of usability things to look for in custom ROMs? Things that would set one apart from the others?
As for a theme, I like the default MIUI one. If i don't go with MIUI, i'd want a theme like it. Matte, light grey background (possibly with black title bar, status bar, etc), orange highlights (on controls like progress bars), round borders. Gnome/Tango style icons. At the least, i could create my own theme based of a similar one.
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1.You can use any launcher on any rom no problem
2.Once you perform a factory reset in your recovery, you phone will direct you to set up up your phone (the setup changes if you install and aosp rom)
3.Most of the custom rom on xda like to debloat (take out the carrier apps) their roms. If you want to keep your apps you will either have to find a rom that doesn't take away those apps (ie a stock rom.) or you could go with an aosp rom that completely gets rid of sense and it's carrier apps. Or if you know what carrier app you want, you could download root browser and take the apk from your system/app folder(this may be tricky because you the apps are labeled differently
4.I'm pretty sure you are supported see to hold on to the word you want to select.
5. You have to look at the features they offer. Like on Viper 2.70, you can customize various things with vemon tweaks that other custom roms don't offer.
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xtal256 said:
Anyone?
I'm also not sure about device support. The only thing i can find on Viper X is an XDA page that mentions HTC One X. Is that different to HTC One?
Other ROMs mention support for specific HTC vendors (all American i assume). I got mine from Telstra in Australia, does that mean i should look for an "international" version of a ROM? What if there are none?
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1. You should be looking for ViperOne in the HTC One international thread(it just says htc one, no other carrier names attached) >android development.
2. Not sure about Australian phones but as long as it isn't a sprint phone you can flash any rom although most roms are in the international htc one thread anyway.
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ayo234 said:
1.You can use any launcher on any rom no problem
2.Once you perform a factory reset in your recovery, you phone will direct you to set up up your phone (the setup changes if you install and aosp rom)
3.Most of the custom rom on xda like to debloat (take out the carrier apps) their roms. If you want to keep your apps you will either have to find a rom that doesn't take away those apps (ie a stock rom.) or you could go with an aosp rom that completely gets rid of sense and it's carrier apps. Or if you know what carrier app you want, you could download root browser and take the apk from your system/app folder(this may be tricky because you the apps are labeled differently
4.I'm pretty sure you are supported see to hold on to the word you want to select.
5. You have to look at the features they offer. Like on Viper 2.70, you can customize various things with venom tweaks that other custom roms don't offer.
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Thanks for your help.
About #3, it sounds like you are saying i can look for the apk on the phone, back it up somewhere, then re-install it once i flash the custom rom. Is that correct? Could there be any sort of problems with installing such an app on different firmware?
About #4, it's kind of hard to explain, but i just don't like the way the text manipulation is handled. It feels awkward and sometimes doesn't do what i want it to. I press to select or insert something, and it does nothing- I have to try a number of times before it will work. Sometimes double-pressing will zoom the page instead of selecting the word. Just little things like that.
In the end, i guess all ROMs offer similar features, customizations and tweaks. I think i'll just go with MIUI, since i really like the default theme.
xtal256 said:
Thanks for your help.
About #3, it sounds like you are saying i can look for the apk on the phone, back it up somewhere, then re-install it once i flash the custom rom. Is that correct? Could there be any sort of problems with installing such an app on different firmware?
About #4, it's kind of hard to explain, but i just don't like the way the text manipulation is handled. It feels awkward and sometimes doesn't do what i want it to. I press to select or insert something, and it does nothing- I have to try a number of times before it will work. Sometimes double-pressing will zoom the page instead of selecting the word. Just little things like that.
In the end, i guess all ROMs offer similar features, customizations and tweaks. I think i'll just go with MIUI, since i really like the default theme.
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Yes extract the apk from you carrier rom. There shouldn't be any compatability issues since it's just an apk.
I came from an iPhone but I don't understand what you mean. On Android double tap is supposed to zoom and on HTC we have text wrapping which zooms the text to the zoom magnification which no other manufacturer has anymore.
There are plenty of themes you could download that look like miui. Even a custom launcher like themer offers extensive themes which look amazing.
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ayo234 said:
Yes extract the apk from you carrier rom. There shouldn't be any compatability issues since it's just an apk.
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Cool, thanks.
I came from an iPhone but I don't understand what you mean. On Android double tap is supposed to zoom and on HTC we have text wrapping which zooms the text to the zoom magnification which no other manufacturer has any more.
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Ok, try this:
On Windows, in a text editor, double-click on a word then drag the mouse while still holding down the button (i.e. don't release after the second click). Notice how it first selects the entire word, the starts selecting whole words as you drag.
Do the same thing on iOS. Double-tap and drag. Same thing happens.
Now try it on Android. Notice that double-tapping will select the whole word, but moving your finger doesn't do anything. You have to actually let go, then grab one of the markers to select more.
As for the zoom, i know double-tap zooms non-editable text. This is the same on iOS. But there have been occasions (and this may be the fault of the application) where i double-tap in a text field and this slightly zooms the view instead of selecting the word.
There are plenty of themes you could download that look like miui. Even a custom launcher like themer offers extensive themes which look amazing.
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I'm sure there are themes that look similar to MIUI, and i've even seen one for CyanogenMod that looks pretty similar. But with so many to choose from, i'd have to try many before stumbling upon one i liked (although that's not necessarily a bad thing ).
And what do you mean by custom launcher themes? As far as i know, all custom launchers can do is change the icon set, not the whole chrome. That is, they cannot change the Sense blue and black theme to a light grey and orange. Or can they?
Ok, how about i change the criteria. Which is the most stable, with frequent updates? And which one has the most customisation options for developers or "power users"?
A little more information about the 4th bullet. I noticed you mentioned something about how letter case is handled. The HTC keyboard is like stupid when it comes to manually editing previous words. I think I know EXACTLY what you mean. LoL!!
I hated how if I spelled "hunhry" and erased "hry" and started typing "gry" it would start auto-correcting only the "gry" part. I would recommend using a different keyboard. If you don't know which one to use, you can't go wrong with using the Google Keyboard. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.inputmethod.latin) It's basic enough. It's also the one I use.
As far as selecting text, you can try enabling this.
Go to...
Settings --> Accessibility --> Under the "System" tab check "Show magnifier". This makes a little magnifier when you're selecting text. This may help with precision.
Also, why do you double-tap the words? A press and hold selects the word for me. That may help when trying to select words. And if you see from my screenshot, with the magnifier enabled, it will be easier to pinpoint exactly where you want to go when selecting more than one word. So I press and hold; it selects the word for me and also brings up the twin sliders; after that I can easily drag the sliders to select what I want.
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Hi No_Nickname90, thanks for your feedback.
Regarding the keyboard, i don't use auto-correct, as i prefer to be in control (if i make a mistake, at least i know it's my fault!). If i can't get used to the stock keyboard, i might try another.
As for why i double-tap, did you not understand my example? I can't see how i'd be able to select multiple whole words in a single motion if i pressed and held. If holding selects one word, then I imagine if i moved my finger after that, it would move the selection to a different word rather than extending the selection. I really need an animation to explain this...
Anyway, i have decided to go with MIUI. If i don't like it, i can always change later.
When you press and hold, the slider comes up. Then you can control the slider and select text like that.
So it's press and hold until the slider comes. Then release and the slider will still be there.
It seems as if you're double tapping and on the second tap, sliding. I've never done that nor have I seen that. That's why I'm confused.
When I just tried to do that, all that happened was the position cursor sliding, not the selection cursor. LoL!!
Have you played around with the keyboard settings? I think there is one rule about how text is capitalized. Also, there should be a setting to calibrate the HTC keyboard to your texting. That may help when texting, should you go back.
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Cool, thanks.
Ok, try this:
On Windows, in a text editor, double-click on a word then drag the mouse while still holding down the button (i.e. don't release after the second click). Notice how it first selects the entire word, the starts selecting whole words as you drag.
Do the same thing on iOS. Double-tap and drag. Same thing happens.
Now try it on Android. Notice that double-tapping will select the whole word, but moving your finger doesn't do anything. You have to actually let go, then grab one of the markers to select more.
As for the zoom, i know double-tap zooms non-editable text. This is the same on iOS. But there have been occasions (and this may be the fault of the application) where i double-tap in a text field and this slightly zooms the view instead of selecting the word.
I'm sure there are themes that look similar to MIUI, and i've even seen one for CyanogenMod that looks pretty similar. But with so many to choose from, i'd have to try many before stumbling upon one i liked (although that's not necessarily a bad thing ).
And what do you mean by custom launcher themes? As far as i know, all custom launchers can do is change the icon set, not the whole chrome. That is, they cannot change the Sense blue and black theme to a light grey and orange. Or can they?
Ok, how about i change the criteria. Which is the most stable, with frequent updates? And which one has the most customisation options for developers or "power users"?
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Before my HTC One I used apex launcher. It was free and provided stock aosp. It also had icons packs like NOX compatible with it which makes my icons uniform and amazing. A lot of people use Nova which provides the same things but to experience the full content you have to buy the launcher.
Themer is a new launcher that is still in beta buts it's pretty amazing. It takes predefined home screen layouts for Mycolorscreen.com and applied them to your phones with widgets wallpapers and animations (much like buzz launcher.). If you are looking for a stable launcher apex or Nova is the way to go. But if your want themes and cool changes to your home screen (you might find an miui theme you like) with a little less stability, Themer is the way to go.
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I don't think a launcher will quite do. As far as i know, a launcher cannot change the skin for the entire device. For example, it can't change the theme of menus or stock apps.
I just found out that MIUI is only available for HTC One via an unofficial ROM. There is an official version coming, but i don't know when. Perhaps i'll wait for it. Or maybe i'll just go with another ROM like Viper X...
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I don't think a launcher will quite do. As far as i know, a launcher cannot change the skin for the entire device. For example, it can'th change the theme of menus or stock apps.
I just found out that MIUI is only available for HTC One via an unofficial ROM. There is an official version coming, but i don't know when. Perhaps i'll wait for it. Or maybe i'll just go with another ROM like Viper X...
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If you go for MIUI you should go ahead and get the unoffical one. It may be a very ling time before there us an offical one and not include the stuff you want.
The viper roms are very good roms. Remember it is viper one not viper x. If you install the latter you will brick your phone.
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If you go for MIUI you should go ahead and get the unoffical one. It may be a very ling time before there us an offical one and not include the stuff you want.
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Ok, as long as the unofficial one is just as stable and supported as the official one.
The viper roms are very good roms. Remember it is viper one not viper x. If you install the latter you will brick your phone.
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Ah, so that's why google searches for "viper x htc one" only return results for the One X. I'll keep that in mind.