You have to try those to believe how good the Winterface application is. I saw the review on Tiltsite.com today, downloaded it and immediately loved it. It is extremely finger friendly, the interface is very intuitive and beautifully designed. It also uses minimum amount of system resource thus is very efficient.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/vito-mobile-shell.html
Their FunContacts is also a gem to have. Extremly finger friendly, smooth scrolling of the contact list like the iPhone. It absolutely replaces the old school "stylus-required" contact application included in WM6.1.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
I've also tried their Zoomboard application, I think it's a good concept, however there is room for improvement. It is still quite slow to type on the Zoomboard application. However the accuracy of the text is improved dramatically because of the zoomed in text let you see what you've pressed on the screen. But it still can't beat Kaiser/Tilt's excellent keyboard for typing.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/onscreen-keyboard.html
Enough said, I strongly encourage people to try it out. It will be a investment well spend. They also have a whole lot of other nicely designed applications on their webpage, check them out too.
http://iwindowsmobile.com/
seems like alot to spend on a couple of good apps that already exist freely...iContact, HTC album (for the photo thing) and even the (Samsung Glyde copy) button interface all exist free of charge. I'd have to see better to be convinced to put down $40 for 2 apps.
how do you install over an existing GUI... today screen , start menu, taskbar, etc???..
does it wipe them all out?
can you go back easily?
tahnx
nufsaid said:
seems like alot to spend on a couple of good apps that already exist freely...iContact, HTC album (for the photo thing) and even the (Samsung Glyde copy) button interface all exist free of charge. I'd have to see better to be convinced to put down $40 for 2 apps.
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Just some extra options for people to try, you don't lose money for trying it..
amkaos said:
how do you install over an existing GUI... today screen , start menu, taskbar, etc???..
does it wipe them all out?
can you go back easily?
tahnx
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I don't know what to say other than, yes, no, yes!
Conflicts
Do you know of any conflicts with this app? I have HHC installed right now.
amkaos said:
how do you install over an existing GUI... today screen , start menu, taskbar, etc???..
does it wipe them all out?
can you go back easily?
tahnx
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You slide your finger in an arc to enable the interface from your home screen or anywhere else. You can click okay button and easily go back to normal interface if you choose to do so.
When phone is unlocked in Winterface, you can "slide to unlock" the phone with a touch of a finger.
I installed this over Garmin's DK1 WM6.1 cooked rom, so far everything works smooth as silk. Garmin's DK1 includes HTC Home v2.0.1812282.1 that I enabled in my home screen. This app run dependent of HTC Home plugin so there is no problems that I found.
In my opinion this app totally replaces HTC Home just because it is much more intuitive (it displays # of new message you got or # of missed calls you have and stuff like that). Couple finger movement after you can reach almost any application on the phone.
I don't work for this company or anything... Just think it's a really cool app to try.
And after couple hours of useage, here is a little short list of pros and rooms for improvement:
Pro -
Extremly finger friendly, smooth flow, elegant design layout.
Low memory useage, fast start up anywhere in the OS.
Very intuitive interface, texts under icons are extremely useful, compare to some other apps who only incorporated icons.
Love to be able to mix and match the apps I need and put them in order I want.
Room for improvement -
Slide to unlock button will disappear if a phone call caused the phone to lock itself, the phone would also lock itself unwanted after a phone call is in progress. It is annoying because when you want to press the keys on the screen, you find the phone locked with slide to unlock.
Contrast of the default icons are rather low (The whites are a bit above mid gray color)
Would be nice to flip from first page to last and then from last to first in one direction.
Would be nice to have option to display non-clear type fonts, my eye don't see well under clear type fonts.
Too bad SMS-Chat and FunContact have problem displaying typed text in landscape orientation in windows mobile 6.1 device (no problem in 6.0 though), or they would work great alone side Winterface.
bennyj71 said:
Do you know of any conflicts with this app? I have HHC installed right now.
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so, how do i get that display of clock and slide to unlock?
edit :: wait, i get it.. this doesnt come w/anything else..
i like it -- really fast and nice to look at..
thanx..
Hmm,
I found quirks about the FunContact... Clear Type fonts used in that application will make all the typed in text display go blank when viewed in landscape mode... not recommended......
lifanus said:
Hmm,
I found quirks about the FunContact... Clear Type fonts used in that application will make all the typed in text display go blank when viewed in landscape mode... not recommended......
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doesnt that always happen in landscape + clear type ?
amkaos said:
doesnt that always happen in landscape + clear type ?
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I think it does, the system wouldn't even let me enable clear type on landscape mode... Maybe that's why all those apps that use cleartype in landscape mode would not display typed text properly
nufsaid said:
seems like alot to spend on a couple of good apps that already exist freely...iContact, HTC album (for the photo thing) and even the (Samsung Glyde copy) button interface all exist free of charge. I'd have to see better to be convinced to put down $40 for 2 apps.
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I personally LOVE the Zoomboard because of it's accuracy when typing one-handed (usually while driving). Obviously, I also prefer the regular hard keyboard, but we all know that's not always an option.
What free software that is similar to Zoomboard are you talking about?
Related
i dont like to use touch flo and would like to know if someone has found a way to disable it ?
thanks, eric
their is touchflo option in settings (under system I think), should allow you to disable it
Go to the the TODAY settings...
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
the touchflo (finger panning) option is the one i want to turn off.
i still want to keep the htc home in my today screen.
aaronsmckee said:
their is touchflo option in settings (under system I think), should allow you to disable it
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there is only one checked box about the sound on/off when panning. no where to disable it.
I'd love to turn touchflo off. It seems pretty worthless. It scrolls a page to slowly and in PIE its hard to get it to stop when u get to a spot you want to view.
technillion said:
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
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I had followed above with soft reset also, but still the "touch flo" function running in PIE. This is pretty annoying and useless function if you used to your finger scrolling webpages with PIE plus.
Another one can helps..Thank.
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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That worked perfect neighbor. The touchflo scrolling made it near impossible to drag separator lines. I greatly prefer to tap in the scroll-bar field to page up/down. Thanks again.
jamespaulritter said:
That worked perfect neighbor. The touchflo scrolling made it near impossible to drag separator lines. I greatly prefer to tap in the scroll-bar field to page up/down. Thanks again.
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Out of curiosity does that change also speed up PIE scrolling the normal way ? - cos it's super laggy and worse than TyTn in the out of the box setup.
Mike
Well if i hold my finger in the scroll bar field it will page up/down at 4 pages a second. The reg edit doesn't seem to have changed anything other than the touchflo scrolling
TouchFlO Scrolling and Sound
A Couple questions here:
Is there a way to tweak touchflo scrolling such that it only goes one page length at a time, instead of 4 or 5?
Is there away to turn of the clicking sound as it scrolls?
I'm assuming these are just annoyances of an immature feature that was rushed out the door, but hoping there are fixes available or that HTC is smart enough to fix the problems in future releases.
MardiG said:
A Couple questions here:
Is there a way to tweak touchflo scrolling such that it only goes one page length at a time, instead of 4 or 5?
Is there away to turn of the clicking sound as it scrolls?
I'm assuming these are just annoyances of an immature feature that was rushed out the door, but hoping there are fixes available or that HTC is smart enough to fix the problems in future releases.
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Have you even looked at the settings in your tilt\Kaiser? you would have found atleast on answer to your questions just by looking around and learning your device!
I guess to each his/her own, but I personally think the TouchFLO interface is a huge improvement in usability. Perhaps it just takes some getting used to. And with TouchFLO, you can still essentially do all the things you could without TouchFLO. E.g. the scroll bars are still there to be used if you like that. And you can still use the stylus for normal operations. There seems to be some confusion about how it works so let me explain the "use cases".
The way TouchFLO works is this:
- use a finger (not your fingernail) to "drag" the screen up/down (or even left/right if the page is wider than the screen). The page should drag with your finger. It's semi-smooth. Not truly smooth, but smooth enough. When you drag, DON'T lift your finger from the screen till you've got it positioned to your desired spot.
OR
- If you use your finger (not your fingernail) to swipe up or down AND LIFT your finger fromthe screen as you do it, then the screen with scroll by itself to the end in that direction or until you tap the screen again to stop it.
OR
- if you use the stylus or your fingernail, then it will NOT scroll like above. It will then behave like a normal stylus control (highlites and selects instead of scrolling).
So, the screen reads a broad touch (like your finger) differently than a narrow/pinpoint touch (like your nail or stylus).
once I got used to it, i found it to be an excellent upgrade in the interface. I don't think it was a "feature that was rushed out the door" at all. in fact that it reads the stylus and your finger differently speaks to the idea that thought went into it.
Use it on a web page to see the different use cases. If you browse a PDF file, it'll drag even with a stylus because you can't "highlight and select" within a PDF file, so it knows that use case is invalid.
Also, You can change the sensitivity by using a reg tweak: HKLM-DRIVERS-TOUCHPANEL-PRESSURE THRESHOLD. Increase/decrease it for more/less sensitivity.
technillion said:
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
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You do realize this has nothing to do with TouchFlo ... right?
jomo25 said:
There seems to be some confusion about how it works so let me explain the "use cases".
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Nice writeup, thanks!
Richard "Still Jonesing for a Tilt"
I wish there was a way to partially disable the Kaiser implementation of touchflo --specifically, the feature where if you drag scroll and your finger ends up at one of the edges of the screen (which is really easy on a 2.8" screen using your thumb) it goes into the continuous scrolling mode. I wish those edge regions of the screen were treated just like any other.
Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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Thanks from me too for this tip. I don't use TouchFLO and I found the touchscreen on my TyTN II a bit annoying with this enabled. Sometimes it wouldn't react to tapping so I had to tap twice. This was maybe one out of every three or four taps.
Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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didnt work for me, im using windows mobile 6.5, and its annoying to have the 6.5 scrolling and touchflo at the same time...
jonrulezz said:
didnt work for me, im using windows mobile 6.5, and its annoying to have the 6.5 scrolling and touchflo at the same time...
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Please don't go digging in the graveyard, it disturbs the other corpses
Try going to settings>today>items>uncheck touchFlo
I tried this new application on my wing and I am just loving it. Thought I should share with someone who may be interested.
Here is the video from another thread in the forum I picked this application from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNtHCOpZlQ
It really is cool with amazing customization.
More info here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365334
FAQ
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Just FYI.. Here are some FAQ's..from the original thread. Just saving time in searching stuff, I have attached a few cabs as well :
Where else can I get Ultimate Launcher from?
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/
Where do I get the touch-commander from?
www.touch-commander.com
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Instructions from MaxMotus :
Part 1 - Touch Commander
Install Touch Commander and edit the FtouchFlo config file. The options for left and right scroll are blank. I set "Right 2 Left" as Action Screen and "Left 2 Right" as Comm Manager.
"Down 2 Up" opens Touch Commander Standard and "Up 2 Down" minimizes the program currently active.
Obviously configure Touch Commander Layout and icons to suit yourself. My icons that i used in Touch Commander are png format stored on storage card. I got some of mine from Alienware skin. Basically converted the ".ico" files to png
Part 2 - Ultimate Launch
Install Ultimate Commander and take time to edit play with settings. You can spec tab size by pixels (i used 40) and placement. Then you can spec total pixel size that the Ultimate Launcher plugin uses on desktop (includes tabs). I set @ 200 which lines up perfectly with the wallpaper i use. So when you change tab it moves everything between the tabs at top and the glass bar at the bottom. ie Tabs and glass bar stay static.
I used as plugins, HTC home which fits perfectly between the Tabs and Glass Bar at bottom. The Next Tab is SPB Pocket Plus with short cuts and system items. On the Third Tab I used SPB Weather and on the final tab i had short cuts using Ultimate Launch.
Tab placement can be top or bottom of the Today plugin so you could put them at the bottom of page like iphone. If you want to hide the tabs totally and just use the Cube / Slide change of tabs then set Tab size to zero.
Ultimate launch icons are in standard .ico format 32x32 or 48x48 for the animated size! So you can easily make or edit icons!
You can have as many tabs as you like I just chose 4 as i was using cube style change. And you can use all the normal today style plugins via settings. Each tab can have its own gestures regarding launching apps. I set mine same for less confusion, basically stroke down on tab panel for PocketCM.
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how did you manage to get the htc home tab plugin in between ultimate launch space?
The HTC Home needs 160 pixels so you need to set the pixel size in "Ultimate Launch" to use 160px + tab size. In my case my tabs are 40px so my overall px size for settings on Ultimate Launch are 200px (Config, Display Tab, "Fixed Plugin Height")
To add HTC Home plugin, (Config, Display Tab, "Tabs") when you have created a "Tab" you can click on "change" and add from the list of today plugins!
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Where do I get the theme which is in the Video?
Attached - Theme.zip
You can use your own customized avatar.
Attached - Blueflameza9.zip
For those who want to use the gif for S2U2
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How Do I get the HTC Home and HTC Weather as Tabs?
Go to UL config and Add a New Plugin, Select the Application
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I managed to use the HTC home like you did, but unlike the top portion of your ultimatelaunch tab, mine has arrows to the sides. I am assuming that it's indicating the that I have more tabs to the left/right. Is there any way to get rid of it? How did you make it so that yours doesn't show any arrow? Is it because you only have 4 tabs?
Go into Config and the headers options.
Make sure "Visable Headers" is equal to or great than number of tabs you have setup.
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Which battery monitor do you use? The one in the taskbar with percentage as well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321733
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Anyone knows how to add Bluetooth and Wifi .ink into the launcher??
Attached SmartUtilities+Shortcuts.CAB
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loghash said:
I tried this new application on my wing and I am just loving it. Thought I should share with someone who may be interested.
Here is the video from another thread in the forum I picked this application from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNtHCOpZlQ
It really is cool with amazing customization.
More info here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365334
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Looks like it will be fun to mess around with. Thanks for sharing.
JLine05 said:
Looks like it will be fun to mess around with. Thanks for sharing.
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Ya,
I tried it out about a week ago and was going to add it to open touch v3.0, but did not have time..
I might include it in v4.0, but not sure yet. Also, I think I better ask the developer of the apps first as well...heeh
wow that definitely looks sweet, thanks for the heads up man
i wonder how smoothly it'll run on the wing though.....
ttran001 said:
Ya,
I tried it out about a week ago and was going to add it to open touch v3.0, but did not have time..
I might include it in v4.0, but not sure yet. Also, I think I better ask the developer of the apps first as well...heeh
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Tat sounds nice! Would love to see this with Open Touch. One thing you may wanna consider before including is that if this app is not activated, it will have "not activated" on the application once in a while. It doesn harm but I am sure you will find a way to eliminate that
mapleman321 said:
wow that definitely looks sweet, thanks for the heads up man
i wonder how smoothly it'll run on the wing though.....
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Its running real smooth on my Wing. I am running my wing at 247MHz with Open Touch Biggy 3.0. Tweaked it a little with modified icons., its as good as the one in the video now!
where do you get the original icons for the TouchFlo???
Tried it on my Wing. Really Cool. I like it. Its fun to use. Thanks!!!!!
I Like it --- I Love it --- I Need Some More of it ...........
Activation
loghash said:
I tried this new application on my wing and I am just loving it. Thought I should share with someone who may be interested.
Here is the video from another thread in the forum I picked this application from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNtHCOpZlQ
It really is cool with amazing customization.
More info here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365334
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I tried messing around with the activation screen, and 1 2 3 4 5 works as a successful activation code!!!! just incase anyone else hates thae not activated on all four corners!!!
^ Thanks KHOFFICE, hope it stays that way!!
Excellent app... This is as close to a Touch/Cube as you can get without Flashing!!
atlaswing said:
^ Thanks KHOFFICE, hope it stays that way!!
Excellent app... This is as close to a Touch/Cube as you can get without Flashing!!
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This is way more useful than the Touch Cube, and I was a fan. This seems to be working great so far and it doesnt seem to use much memory.
JLine05 said:
Looks like it will be fun to mess around with. Thanks for sharing.
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Anytime! Cheers!.. I see that you have your screen image changed with this app..! looks kewl
roman2113 said:
This is way more useful than the Touch Cube, and I was a fan. This seems to be working great so far and it doesnt seem to use much memory.
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Yeah! Bingo..! Small Cab file as well.. And I was most impressed with the amount of customization.. with Animation.. Display.. Application.. Icons.. I was like.. Woww!
Is there a way to put built in Calendar and Tasks today plugins into one of the tabs in Ultimate Launcher?
grabiarz said:
Is there a way to put built in Calendar and Tasks today plugins into one of the tabs in Ultimate Launcher?
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From what I saw you can use any plugin. When you go into the config click new and select Today-Plugin. You should be able to add it there.
khoffice said:
I tried messing around with the activation screen, and 1 2 3 4 5 works as a successful activation code!!!! just incase anyone else hates thae not activated on all four corners!!!
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This didnt work btw...Its a good app though so I'll put up with the message.
WiFI and Bluetooth:
for bleutooth toggle = CicleBT.cab
for wifi there is also a wifitoggel.exe somewhere. i´ll post when i´m home...
BUT please keep in mind: IT is NOT freeware.... so including into a rom would make people have to buy a licens
I stay with O2plus (modified) i can set tabs for shortcuts - that´s enough for me...
thanks for posting.
I tested it: but as far as i cannot find more than 6 shirtcuts that i really need on screen.... and in loss of todayplugins that i do not use..... i relly don´t need it. BUT it is customizable very fine...
AND indeed much better than cube!!!
I had it running under my Batterystatustheme.... 200pix high with todayagenda and shortcuts....
zcink said:
Tried it on my Wing. Really Cool. I like it. Its fun to use. Thanks!!!!!
I Like it --- I Love it --- I Need Some More of it ...........
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Heheh.. I know . With the amount of memory it takes..I kinda thot you will!..
not activated message is not there when you don't use Cube
I know the Cube is popular but if you uninstall the cube, you don't get the not activated messages. This app is pretty cool even without the Cube. I personally do not like the cube so I don't use it, but I tried it with and without the cube installed and noticed this. Just thought I'd pass it on.
Also, the Cube takes alot of memory, but without it, this app takes very little.
zcink said:
I know the Cube is popular but if you uninstall the cube, you don't get the not activated messages. This app is pretty cool even without the Cube. I personally do not like the cube so I don't use it, but I tried it with and without the cube installed and noticed this. Just thought I'd pass it on.
Also, the Cube takes alot of memory, but without it, this app takes very little.
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Thanx for sharing! am trying this now
Is there a way to customize HTC Home? Like, can I change the look of it at all? Also, is there a way to make it finger scrollable, and also D-Pad scrollable? I know in some of the ROMs it's somewhat D-pad scrollable, but it seems to never work right.
I'd like to lower HTC Home to near the bottom of the screen (like Manilla) and make it more scrollable (like Manilla). I'd also like to customize the graphics, and possible add/remove icons.
Is there any way to do any of this? I know people are putting a ton of time into customizeng Manilla, but I would rather use HTC Home because of the whole landscape support thing.
Try Advance Config
Go here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470370
Scroll down to post #2 then download System Tools Cabs
It's a Zip file with all the system tools, and Advance Configuration is in there.
Once you install AC, run it, scroll to HTC home and unlock its position. This will enable it to scroll though, so if you have too many things on the home screen, the scroll bar will be on top of your htc home, make it looks ugly ~ but if you don't mind then try it out
finger scrollable?!!! You can use the Dpad, just press up or down untill one of the tap icon was selected, then press left or right to flip trough those taps... HTC Home is design to be light and fast ~ if you want all the complex M2D functions might as well just use M2D ~ sacrifice the buggy landscape mode.
-post removed- rant was here before(might come back) but im not sure what you mean. Do you mean by customizing HTC home changing the clock, tabs, etc.?
Well I was initially trying to make HTC Home look nicer- like M2D, and make it finger scrollable like M2D. I have since installed SPB Mobile Shell, and I no longer care about HTC Home.
I was just fed up with M2D and it's sluggish, buggy, no landscape, performance. M2D is nice to look at, and it is finger friendly as well. So I wanted to combine its looks, and its finger friendly operation, with the snappy performance and stability of HTC Home.
SPB Mobile Shell seems to do all of that, and plenty more...
well I found this http://www.touch-commander.com/
kaiserII101 said:
well I found this http://www.touch-commander.com/
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Looks retty nice. Similar to SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
Looks to be a little cheaper than Mobile Shell.
Ok, first to the admins/moderators - I searched my ass off trying to find a thread with my problem, to no avail... so if there is one, please excuse me...
So here is my problem - I find it very difficult to scroll any list with my finger because I just end up selecting some item from the list... Is there any registry setting to, lets say, delay the select behavior of TouchFlo? I mean, for example, I try scrolling my contacts, I AM able to scroll but almost immediately after I start scrolling I end up selecting some contact!?! Am I the only one with that problem? PLEASE HELP!
Bump. Anyone?
I just have the problem the other way around, I just can't select multiple items because everything starts scrolling...
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
joshkoss said:
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
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Also , make it more of a " flick " with your finger, instead of a touch and drag scroll.
So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
mmmfff said:
So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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u should blow up their forums then
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
I hate to say this, but I think that is the expected behavior or TouchFlo scrolling.
You can drag to scroll specifically (and I don't believe this selects anything, at least on my Tilt), or you can swipe to start kinetic scrolling. If you click while kinetic scrolling is occurring, I think TouchFlo causes a selection to be made (although in places where single-click activate is the default, I don't think it actually activates the item--it simply highlights it).
You may be able to resolve this by changing the TFLOSettings\FingerPressure value.
I had a problem for the first six months with TouchFlo where the context menu would pop up about one in three times I tried to scroll (swiping or dragging). This happened even the moment I started using the device. Completely and utterly unusable. But after the third or so time I tried adjusting TFLOSettings values in the registry, I finally solved the problem. I ended up with TFLOSettings\FingerPressure=0x64 (100) and TouchPanel\PressureThreshold=0xC8 (200).
I REALLY wish HTC or someone would produce a complete guide to customizing TouchFlo scrolling (including the meanings of the TFLOSETTINGS values). It really works well, once it is optimized. Although, it will be great if Microsoft builds scrolling into the Common Controls in WM6.5.
mmmfff said:
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
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Actually there are genius developers in here. I think you're just being a little picky, the touch flo works fine for me.
I think I recall a touchflo sensitivity setting in KaiserTweak. Get it, then try setting the Touchflo sensitivity to the most sensitive option possible.
Dave
+1 on Kaisertweek, altho I reduced sensitivity instead of increasing it. Technique counts too. I tend to use nails or stylus for browsers, especially Opera. Use keyboard for contacts, and scrollwheel to dial it from there. Every phone is different, but reducing sensitivity via Kaisertweek worked for me.
Problem solved
Finally figured it out and now it works perfectly. The culprit was the too high value in HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel\PressureThreshold.... I put a value of 160 (dword:000000a0) and now I have almost iPhone experience
heres a thread closer !
to bring some closure to this thread, the following utility will solve all your touchflo woes!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499837
Not going to spam the sapphire forum, but because i mainly live in the G1 area I would like you all to know that I have developed a whole new Home Replacement called GDE. It has transitions like a cube, configurable toolbar buttons etc etc.
A link to the G1 thread ( with all features and some movies ) so i dont have to copy all of it over and over:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4698010#post4698010
I have tested this on a G1 and a G2, but it should also run great on a Sapphire. If anyone has tried it please let me know how it works on your devices!
Downloaded to my mytouch and so far i'm liking it.
Couple of suggestions
1. For the option on the launch bar to bring up the phone, can you make it bring up the dialer and not the recent call list? kinda like the Hero
2. Now, when you press the menu button, the app tray pops up. I'd prefer if the normal menu would pop up. The one that has the option to change wallpaper, notifications, etc.
3. if there is a way, when trashing an icon, to make the whole bottom bar the trash, not just the bottom left corner.
4. the possibility to skin the launcher. (edit: i see in the original post that you said your working on this)
bugs i've noticed:
-when # of visible screens is set to 3 and default desktop is set to 1, you can not scroll all the way through. if you swipe right or left one time thats all that you can do. it doesn't allow you to swipe again to get to the home screen. edit: i forgot to mention that its when its in stretch mode and it doesn't work on any configuration (ie default desktop 1,2,etc). it works fine on cube
-when changing an option that require the restart of the launcher, it pops up the last used application such as sms or gmail.
thanks
Thanks for your input,
Downloaded to my mytouch and so far i'm liking it.
Couple of suggestions
1. For the option on the launch bar to bring up the phone, can you make it bring up the dialer and not the recent call list? kinda like the Hero
That indeed could be something to look at... i will look into it
2. Now, when you press the menu button, the app tray pops up. I'd prefer if the normal menu would pop up. The one that has the option to change wallpaper, notifications, etc.
The hard-menu button will be configurable in the near future, so you can set it to open up any menu you like i.e. settings... The control panel is going to get a lot bigger so it should allow you to do "almost" all things you were able to do in the past... and some more of course
3. if there is a way, when trashing an icon, to make the whole bottom bar the trash, not just the bottom left corner.
Well when you drag the right button will change into the trash... The left button is also context sensitive and in the future this will bring up a settings menu in which you can uninstall the app etc etc. I will give the icon the original red corner because the hit area isnt as clear this way ( its much bigger then you will think )
4. the possibility to skin the launcher. (edit: i see in the original post that you said your working on this)
bugs i've noticed:
-when # of visible screens is set to 3 and default desktop is set to 1, you can not scroll all the way through. if you swipe right or left one time thats all that you can do. it doesn't allow you to swipe again to get to the home screen. edit: i forgot to mention that its when its in stretch mode and it doesn't work on any configuration (ie default desktop 1,2,etc). it works fine on cube
The other transitions dont have endless scroll "yet"... I am working on implementing this into stretch and fade. The original transition can never support this, because of some technical reasons.
-when changing an option that require the restart of the launcher, it pops up the last used application such as sms or gmail.
thanks
I will see if i can make it so that it comes back to life again... it now forcefully kills GDE to clear out everything
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Once again thanks for your input... this is what hopefully will make it the better home replacement.. If you ever come up with ideas, notice bugs or whatever dont hesitate to contact me
One thing i forgot to ask... Can you tell me how the transition speed is on a sapphire? I havent had a chance to run it on one... for now only the G1 and the G2.
On the G2 the cube transition is really fluid... So i hope it will also be on the Sapphire as they are the same hardware/memory wise if im not mistaking.
There are two versions of the Sapphire, one with 32B and one with 32A board. All Google/Vodafone/TIM/Provider branded sapphires are the 32B versions... which has ~182MB RAM, all sapphires with a HTC logo at the front are 32A and have ~290 MB RAM...
So your statement was partly correct
Loving the looks of your launcher by the way, reminds me of LG phones though ^^.
Ok thanks for the clarification and for loving the looks of course
I must be honest... I have never had an LG phone nor seen the interface.. So if it does im a good copycat without knowing ..
it seems pretty smooth. there is a little lag intermittently but not horrible. To get a good comparison I would need to have another phone to compare it too. But so far I'm liking it.
A thing I would like to see is a dock of 4 customisable icons (like the iPhone has yes...) and a shortcut on a different place to pull up the menu The 4x4 crap stucks :/ the 3 buttons take up too much space... I want my own icons there
I downloaded ur app btw because it has so much potential
rogro82 said:
One thing i forgot to ask... Can you tell me how the transition speed is on a sapphire? I havent had a chance to run it on one... for now only the G1 and the G2.
On the G2 the cube transition is really fluid... So i hope it will also be on the Sapphire as they are the same hardware/memory wise if im not mistaking.
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By rights if it's fluid on the G1 it should be on the Sapphire as they're so similar. I've tested tried it out on my 32B and the 'stretch' and 'fade' effects are as smooth as silk, though 'cube' is alittle clunky even with the CPU at 528.
I'll throw in an iddy-biddy suggestion/request; could we get a configurable bottom-bar in a future build? I'd love to may it a bit darker or semi-transparent. Either way, no biggy.
Overall this is a killer Home replacement, and I'm really looking forward to seeing it mature. A big thank-you to you, Rogro.
Additional: Scrolling through the applications list is really choppy in both grid and list.
Thanks for the reply.
I will look into the grid/listview on my phone the listview is smooth although the grid suffers some lag. its related to the transparancy, but i will fix it asap.
About the configurable toolbar... I am working out the whole theming support, so hopefully soon you will be able to adjust it to anything you want it to be.
Thank you Rogro82 !
i made a video ( 0.1.1 ) to show all transitions and some options.
runing on a Sapphire ( 32B versions )
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Thanks man!
Already seen the video and its looking great!
Let me know when you have a new video online. Love to see reviews!
multilang.
hey rogro, are u able to add Multilang to this app, this would be rly nice.
i will help to translate to german if u want
(and a function to custom the function of the middle-button, so the hero theme will look like a real hero (and the palm theme also) )