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hi guys, im getting a brand new X1 today, and i need some sugestions i have been looking the forums and i have some questions:
i used and iphone for 2 years(i have xperience unlocking and jailbreaking the iphone), then an e71 and a blackberry 8310. this is my first winmo device and im clueless ( i saw a hardslp video).
- manila and tf3d is the same thing?
- what is exactly a hardslp? i understand that before flashing it i need to do that first.
- in order to have TF3D i need to do a full flash? or is just an addon?
- i have seen the winmo 6.5 roms should i upgrade?
- i need pptp suport,RDP client, navite Voip and internet tethering, all this solutions are included?
thx for any help in advance.
Don't get the X1... the X2 and the HTC Touch Pro2 is out.... what are you smoking?
i live in mexico, and i cannot get those phones!
You can get the Touch Pro 2 in Mercado Libre.. I'm from Mexico, and if you can live without D-Pad... Touch Pro 2 is the one for you. (that's the one I will replace my X1 with.. but I love the D-Pad Functionality)
Get the X1, it's a great phone.
And has hardware controls, TP 2 doesn't and it sucks.
As for your questions, what I know:
To have WM 6.5 you need to use custom ROM.
Mind it's unofficial so you know - there can be some bugs and things
nobody knows about...
TF3d is probably an add on.
Me personally - I tried it and for me it's more of a gimmick,
not really functional.
I prefer SE panels.....
But it's personal.
TP2 sucks. TF3D is ugly as hell. WinMo 6.5 is buggy and unofficial.
Get the X1. Install the official R3A ROM, if you are not happy, you can always try a custom ROM. After you are happy with that, you can start hunting for apps.
Don't forget - iPhail is a feature phone at best, but the X1 is a pocket computer.
For the first three question you should read the info in the ROM section of the forum. You have to do some reading and understand it all, before trying to flash. Second hand knowlwdge is as bas as no knowledge.
You can get EVERYTHING you might need with apps, if it is not supported from the box.
lol why do you guys say the TP2 suck?
poetryrocksalot said:
lol why do you guys say the TP2 suck?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522073
It's a simple question, i've seen some panels of the X2 and they are really impressive... i just wanted to know if X1 users will be available to get or download those x2 panels.
thank you very much !!!
when the X2 is released, i hope the panels are works on my X1^^
a more imprortant question is if they care enough to bother with. most of the rom cookers didnt bother with the first panels. and im sure it will be ported
i hope they keep in mind x1 after starting to sell x2..
UnD said:
i hope they keep in mind x1 after starting to sell x2..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557348&page=11
6.5 update dude!!!!
At the very least it seems that the X2 ROM will be flashable on the X1. The hardware is almost identical, so it should be an easy transition. Additionally, I imagine that many of the panels available on the X2 will work as is on a non-6.5 X1. The only ones that wouldn't are those that are making some 6.5-specific system calls.
comeradealexi said:
6.5 update dude!!!!
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i was in the oficial SE website, and dont know how to update to windows mobile 6.5
is there any way?
i mean OFFICIAL way, and not a cooked ROM, because i dont like them (some bugs etc.)
i'd like to have this winmo 6.5 official, it looks that it goes at more speed then winmo 6.1 but i want an official one !
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i was in the oficial SE website, and dont know how to update to windows mobile 6.5
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WM6.5 is not avail to X1, officially.
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WM6.5 is not avail to X1, officially.
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And I doubt it will be. After all, there is X2 people should by to have WM6.5 officialy. As for the panels, if it's up to SE to decide - the panels won't be available to X1 (officialy). I hope that the guys in xda will have them ripped of the X2 )
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And I doubt it will be. After all, there is X2 people should by to have WM6.5 officialy.
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Weird...
Itje has a beta of the futur official WM6.5 for X1...
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And I doubt it will be. After all, there is X2 people should by to have WM6.5 officialy. As for the panels, if it's up to SE to decide - the panels won't be available to X1 (officialy). I hope that the guys in xda will have them ripped of the X2 )
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Guys READ correctly the itje's thread!!!
THERE IS official 6.5 update in the works for X1.
doministry said:
Guys READ correctly the itje's thread!!!
THERE IS official 6.5 update in the works for X1.
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its not official until SE releases it. maybe SE is palying arrounf with the 6.5 update but that doesnt mean they goign to release it.
OT: im pretty sure they will work on the X1 too. resolution is the same, CPU is the same ... basicly everything is the same except the camera and the accelerometer.
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its not official until SE releases it. maybe SE is palying arrounf with the 6.5 update but that doesnt mean they goign to release it.
OT: im pretty sure they will work on the X1 too. resolution is the same, CPU is the same ... basicly everything is the same except the camera and the accelerometer.
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i agree just because there is a beta leak 6.5 rom does not mean it will be released as we all found out with the r3 panel manager and growing panel etc.
the only thing that may not work panel wise is the tile panel as it may be using good x2 drivers which offically the x1 will probably not get if it does not get the r4 update (i hope it does).
many unofficial roms for htc devices comes from leaked
"official" test roms so it could very well be that se will never release wm6.5 for x1
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i hope they keep in mind x1 after starting to sell x2..
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I have no doubt SE won`t support: SE is arrogant regarding customers with predecessor-models. It`s going to be like the P-series: upgade (BUY!) the sucessor or you won`t get the candy!
I agree .. all that new panel manager and panels, and camera .. all seems now to be intended for X2. So IMHO we already have some X2 panels on X1.
c'mon guys, look at the forum you're on right now. i gaurantee someone here will port all the x2 panels for the x1.
Sry for opening a thread for that, maybe it wasnt very important BUT
will it be possible to bring the X2 GUI ( very cool animated , beautiful , check out in videos on youtube if didnt watch yet) on the X1??
it looks so beautiful kind of 3d animation, should be workin on x1 doesnt it ?
as far as i know its the same processor , the same hardware.... another point to make it work on x1
thx
It will. Just wait for it.
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Sry for opening a thread for that, maybe it wasnt very important BUT
will it be possible to bring the X2 GUI ( very cool animated , beautiful , check out in videos on youtube if didnt watch yet) on the X1??
it looks so beautiful kind of 3d animation, should be workin on x1 doesnt it ?
as far as i know its the same processor , the same hardware.... another point to make it work on x1
thx
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Might not work mate. X2 is not HTC anymore as far as i know ...... but i might be wrong.
I pray that SE will make an WM 6.5 upgrade for the X1, and i will not need a ported rom from x2. Now i'm using a custom wm 6.5 rom and is fine. Hope to see that official rom.
Cheers!
cristidotro said:
I pray that SE will make an WM 6.5 upgrade for the X1, and i will not need a ported rom from x2. Now i'm using a custom wm 6.5 rom and is fine. Hope to see that official rom.
Cheers!
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That was already announced, itje posted it on HTC-Pedia and probably others did here.
Btw, there are people cooking on the X2 rom as we speak
doesnt matter!
same processor and nearly same hardware therfore same encoding of files.
its going to work for sure ^^
CityDay panel works so we just have to wait for the other stuff...
I want to use this X2's GUI!
allenx1 said:
I want to use this X2's GUI!
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me too....it will make my X1 look increadible....
It would be great If someone succeed to cook this GUI. If so, i'd like to use it.
Thanks in advance
sterkejerreke said:
It would be great If someone succeed to cook this GUI. If so, i'd like to use it.
Thanks in advance
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It would be awesome if someone cooked it like the UnOff rom, 100% pure xperia stuff... unlike some roms with some weird startup screen and a completely messed up start menu with 999 items for which I've to scroll 10 times. Not complaining, but I'm a Lead Developer so I find some things could be improved using common sense. Too bad I haven't enough time to get into mobile stuff like cooking roms. May be one day I will, but for now thanks to spikegotti for giving me what I've been wanting
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It would be awesome if someone cooked it like the UnOff rom, 100% pure xperia stuff... unlike some roms with some weird startup screen and a completely messed up start menu with 999 items for which I've to scroll 10 times. Not complaining, but I'm a Lead Developer so I find some things could be improved using common sense. Too bad I haven't enough time to get into mobile stuff like cooking roms. May be one day I will, but for now thanks to spikegotti for giving me what I've been wanting
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Totally agree with the 100% (or ~100%) clean ROM. So it would be great for every ROM release to have 2 version, one totally clean and one personalized so that users can decide according to their need.
In all thank very much for your efforts, great cooks.
Has anyone found that CAB/package anywhere???
The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth
Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).
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Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).
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you dhould try toich it v2 pretty nice tf3d rom
medzz said:
The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth
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in fact it is allready out...
Mooks said:
in fact it is allready out...
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.
Anyone got a screenshot of the X2 commanager?
Whats different from the X1 one?
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Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.
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You are right , but with a little bit modification the first x2 rom releases will prob do the thing, i dont want to buy the x2 cuz its basicly x1 but a new shell, new os lol, shell on x1 is a beuty compared to x2 lol! and the os(rom) will be working on our x1 so why spend 700 bucks on a new "x1" !!?
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).
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Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).
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Still the design is plastic and more fragile than a steady metall case the phone is bigger more clumsy and if u have x1 why buy x2 if u can get the same goodies on ur current phone? (finger keyboard v2 is the soloution)
I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.
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I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.
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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10
Hmm, im glad we have x1 lol, and soon we will have x2 in a better case (rom in our x1 for peeps that dont understand)
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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10
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Hmm now that you mention it, it makes sense that the X1 cracked for no reason at all looking at it in that light. Atleast the hardware remained sturdy. I also looked at the X10 but somehow can't get past the absence of a hardware keyboard and android OS. I love winmo as a OS although a lot of people complain about it. And the best thing about it is that you can keep upgrading it. SE stated that X2 would be able to upgrade to WM7 once it's released which means next year this time my X1 will also be running it. Then there is the HTC interface porting, Starcraft porting ect. Maybe they will bring out a real upgrade for the X1 when WM7 releases. Android is way too limited in my opinion and if you have 1.6 there's no way to flash to 2.0 not to mention no pc porting
iPhone is rather high quality I must admit. We will have to wait and see. I'm actually quite angry at HTC now, since thats probably also the friggen reason my spacebar key cracked in it's first week of use. I have a Foxconn motherboard in my pc and must also admit it's never given me any kind of problem
Personally I am going to buy a HTC HD2 then they start to sell it here in Denmark! Cause I feel that the Xperia X1 lost its charm quickly for me!
any ppl can make it happen on our x1?? that rom really nice~
nini8888 said:
any ppl can make it happen on our x1?? that rom really nice~
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srry man but this wm7 has different interface.... it will take alot of time till we get it work .. and sure it will be slowwww
i wouldnt call 6.5 usable on the x1 due to its poor performance.and you are talking about 7?!
If x2 will have update to WP7 then on x1 also will have it. But knowing SE, will not update X2 to WP7.
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If x2 will have update to WP7 then on x1 also will have it. But knowing SE, will not update X2 to WP7.
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Its not even possible so dont even think about it.
Any news about WP7 on X1 ?
not knowing anything official on this, but...
with respect to the previous posts and from experience:
I really don't think X1 will get it from SE, as SE didn't even upgrade to an official WM6.5
additionally the X1 is a far cry from the minimum hw requirements and I honestly wouldn't want to test it even if a chef would make the effort
jm2cw though
wp7 requires snapdragon, capacitive touchscreen, 512 mb ram (i think), 5 megapixel camera,... x1 doesn't have any of these things. now, if xda-devs can get it working on x1, is different story
No chance for an X1 version of WP7
No chance for an X1 version of WP7...The minimum requirements for the WP7 is much higher than what we have in X1.....