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seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
will holland win the European championship.............
we do not know what will happen in the future.
gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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Interesting, but I'm positive instead of upgrading the diamond, most people will just buy the new HTC (Probably a Touch) with WM7.
WM7 will be released at the beginning of 2009. Porbably announced earlier.
It is very likely that the Touch Diamond can run wm7 without problems. But nobody can tell you now...
Since HTC is planning for a WM7 device, they will not offer WM7 as a free upgrade for the TouchDiamond. If enough people buy the touch diamond they might offer this update for some money. Else we have to hope for some good "cooking" from the developers here in the forum...
very likely based on what?
If it's as much of an overhaul as Microsoft are saying it will be, then I'd say not supported. Will probably need a better touch screen.
Rory
withouth support for hardware features like
accelorometer and multitouch it would prob
be a kinda poor experience if it does
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very likely based on what?
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Good question
That's why I said: Very likely...
You might as well ask: What might WM7 change that makes it very unlikely that the Touch Diamond will not be albe to run it...
I asked HTC about the Diamond2 WM7 upgrade and they answered this:
"At the moment windows mobile 7 is unknown at this time. I can not give you the exact date when it will release. But I know that there will be a new upgrade will be available soon."
So is this good or bad?
Windows Mobile 7 has high requirements... check out http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html. The Diamond's 192MB ROM isn't even close to the 512MB required. Although, when it comes out, I have a feeling that our hackers will debloat it and make it run.
But it won't be official, that's for sure.
~codeslicer
i have see on youtube many videos with diamond and Winmo7 but its very slow at this time but its work!
You will have winmo7 on your Diamond than wait its nut funny at this time
Here are 2 Videos. The first Video i think thats real its slow but the last Video is so fast i think thats a fake :S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cv85Z2O5jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7UZ71uQHs&feature=related
the second video is an APP runs on WM6.5 it's name is THE HOST and it is in 1.5 version now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928
As mentioned earlier the requirements are not close enough to W7p, and if you have run xdandroid, the performance is okay but not there yet.
I have seen W7p theme for android, I have tried it and it seems pretty cool
Examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8119626#post8119626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864034
That first video looks amazing. Although I didn't expect WP7 to run sooo slowly.
gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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I think we might be able to install a windows 7 rom on Diamond altough it might not function properly because WM7 needs a lot more RAM and processing speed compared to WM6.1 and 6.5.
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
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I will work like crap.
A HTC Diamond barely manages to run a W6.5...It does run , but very slow and annoying.
Would`nt recommend going W7 on a Diamond , unless you have nerves of steel ^^
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
I might also add that it has not been done. Probably won't either, because nobody wants to downgrade their handheld.
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Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Torres 9 said:
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Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Nope. Nobody bothered to port it over because it would be completely pointless. Whats in it for you to downgrade anyway?
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It's a simple question, i've seen some panels of the X2 and they are really impressive... i just wanted to know if X1 users will be available to get or download those x2 panels.
thank you very much !!!
when the X2 is released, i hope the panels are works on my X1^^
a more imprortant question is if they care enough to bother with. most of the rom cookers didnt bother with the first panels. and im sure it will be ported
i hope they keep in mind x1 after starting to sell x2..
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i hope they keep in mind x1 after starting to sell x2..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557348&page=11
6.5 update dude!!!!
At the very least it seems that the X2 ROM will be flashable on the X1. The hardware is almost identical, so it should be an easy transition. Additionally, I imagine that many of the panels available on the X2 will work as is on a non-6.5 X1. The only ones that wouldn't are those that are making some 6.5-specific system calls.
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6.5 update dude!!!!
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i was in the oficial SE website, and dont know how to update to windows mobile 6.5
is there any way?
i mean OFFICIAL way, and not a cooked ROM, because i dont like them (some bugs etc.)
i'd like to have this winmo 6.5 official, it looks that it goes at more speed then winmo 6.1 but i want an official one !
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i was in the oficial SE website, and dont know how to update to windows mobile 6.5
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WM6.5 is not avail to X1, officially.
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WM6.5 is not avail to X1, officially.
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And I doubt it will be. After all, there is X2 people should by to have WM6.5 officialy. As for the panels, if it's up to SE to decide - the panels won't be available to X1 (officialy). I hope that the guys in xda will have them ripped of the X2 )
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And I doubt it will be. After all, there is X2 people should by to have WM6.5 officialy.
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Weird...
Itje has a beta of the futur official WM6.5 for X1...
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And I doubt it will be. After all, there is X2 people should by to have WM6.5 officialy. As for the panels, if it's up to SE to decide - the panels won't be available to X1 (officialy). I hope that the guys in xda will have them ripped of the X2 )
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Guys READ correctly the itje's thread!!!
THERE IS official 6.5 update in the works for X1.
doministry said:
Guys READ correctly the itje's thread!!!
THERE IS official 6.5 update in the works for X1.
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its not official until SE releases it. maybe SE is palying arrounf with the 6.5 update but that doesnt mean they goign to release it.
OT: im pretty sure they will work on the X1 too. resolution is the same, CPU is the same ... basicly everything is the same except the camera and the accelerometer.
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its not official until SE releases it. maybe SE is palying arrounf with the 6.5 update but that doesnt mean they goign to release it.
OT: im pretty sure they will work on the X1 too. resolution is the same, CPU is the same ... basicly everything is the same except the camera and the accelerometer.
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i agree just because there is a beta leak 6.5 rom does not mean it will be released as we all found out with the r3 panel manager and growing panel etc.
the only thing that may not work panel wise is the tile panel as it may be using good x2 drivers which offically the x1 will probably not get if it does not get the r4 update (i hope it does).
many unofficial roms for htc devices comes from leaked
"official" test roms so it could very well be that se will never release wm6.5 for x1
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i hope they keep in mind x1 after starting to sell x2..
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I have no doubt SE won`t support: SE is arrogant regarding customers with predecessor-models. It`s going to be like the P-series: upgade (BUY!) the sucessor or you won`t get the candy!
I agree .. all that new panel manager and panels, and camera .. all seems now to be intended for X2. So IMHO we already have some X2 panels on X1.
c'mon guys, look at the forum you're on right now. i gaurantee someone here will port all the x2 panels for the x1.
"We picked up on a couple of rumours from yesterday that an official X1 Windows Mobile 6.5 rom had surfaced on XDA developers. Just wanted to be clear that this isn’t true.
There is no official X1 6.5 rom and it’s not in the X1’s product roadmap. There are hackers out there who can do pretty much anything, but unless you’re getting it from the SE update service it isn’t an official Sony Ericsson product."
Source:
http://xperiancers.com/2009/09/10/x1-upgrade-not-in-the-roadmap/
Wait and see...
But even if they work on it, they will try to keep it secret as long as possible
But if they keep us waiting and it never does come.....
SE dont want to advertise that 6.5 is coming to x1 because they want people to get the x2 with 6.5 - after the x2 has been out for a while then they might release a 6.5 update to x1 i guess
hm... smells fishy. I wonder if Itje cares to comment on this.
No love for the X1 -- anyway...it looks like SE is ditching WM platform...
http://mobilitysite.com/2009/09/will-the-xperia-x2-be-the-last-winmo-device-from-sony-ericsson/
I was skeptical to begin with when itje announced his new ROM was being based on an official Xperia 6.5 leak.
Could be an X2 beta ROM.
Will it be possible to purchase 6.5 direct from MS and install on X1?
jhendra they said the same thing as well about the x1 sooooo...
"Will it be possible to purchase 6.5 direct from MS and install on X1?"
no ms never sold wm or windows CE to end users as it's without any drivers
so end users would never be able to make it work unless they had the platform builder
and all the drivers 100% matching the device they owned
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No love for the X1 -- anyway...it looks like SE is ditching WM platform...
http://mobilitysite.com/2009/09/will-the-xperia-x2-be-the-last-winmo-device-from-sony-ericsson/
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It's a rumour by Eldar posted on mobile-review forum.
So, you can also easily forget it too.
Hard to believe for me.
see why u gotta give apple the kudos...apple releases updates to the iphone regardless which version iphone it is, people still buy the most recent
see why i wont buy the x2, SE screwed us all over with the x1, who said they wont do it again
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see why u gotta give apple the kudos...apple releases updates to the iphone regardless which version iphone it is, people still buy the most recent
see why i wont buy the x2, SE screwed us all over with the x1, who said they wont do it again
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Well, I don't feel sooooo screwed...
My phone works fine, I'm not dying for upgr.
But anyway - we'll see when WM6.5 is out,
too early to speak.
well i feel screwed, they managed to give the x2 drivers for a smooth panel interface and look at us idiots with a choppy panel manager, btw did i say the hardware is the same?
if they dont update our x1, u bet i wont be buying another SE device, i should have learned my lesson from the P series
Actually nobody said that there is an official X1-ROM with WM6.5 avaliable until now, itje didn't as well...
Itje just announced that he's got an official X1-WM6.5-kernel and some new OEM drivers. That makes the chance for a real official WM6.5-ROM via SEUS for X1 much more likely then before, we think.
as much as we all would love 6.5 upgrade, i think the most important upgrade the x1 could get is a smoother panel interface and new panels, even if its on wm 6.1
why is it that korea got spb mobile shell 3 and xtrakt?
what is so special about the korean xperia market than everyone else in the world?
i wont be surprised either if korea got the update we are looking for either lol
anyway, u have to admit, SE support is very very poor...i will wait and see what the next few months will bring...i dont intend to buy a new device just for a service pack upgrade which wm 6.5 really should be...
as i said, we dont have to get the 6.5, but damn, fix our damn 6.1 panel interface and give us more panels
if they dont upgrade the x1 to 6.5 then theres no way i am getting a x2 because it just shows how poor their after sale support is...
who needs official support anyway? we've got xda. Duh!
hyellow said:
who needs official support anyway? we've got xda. Duh!
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I do. No custom ROM on my X1.
Have no time for problems......
Maybe I'm the minority here,
anyway - I just use official ROMs.
doministry said:
I do. No custom ROM on my X1.
Have no time for problems......
Maybe I'm the minority here,
anyway - I just use official ROMs.
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same unfourtunatley - custom roms are only good for me for seeing what should be released officially one day
all 6.5 roms have problems
I'd like to get the 6.5 upgrade to utilize Marketplace.
I know it's been stated it will support 6.1 also but let's face it, it's a developer based app stream and I don't imagine we'll see too many developers using 6.1 anymore.
me too i tried and ended back with seus rom
Has anyone found that CAB/package anywhere???
The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth
Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).
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Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).
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you dhould try toich it v2 pretty nice tf3d rom
medzz said:
The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth
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in fact it is allready out...
Mooks said:
in fact it is allready out...
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.
Anyone got a screenshot of the X2 commanager?
Whats different from the X1 one?
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Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.
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You are right , but with a little bit modification the first x2 rom releases will prob do the thing, i dont want to buy the x2 cuz its basicly x1 but a new shell, new os lol, shell on x1 is a beuty compared to x2 lol! and the os(rom) will be working on our x1 so why spend 700 bucks on a new "x1" !!?
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).
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Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).
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Still the design is plastic and more fragile than a steady metall case the phone is bigger more clumsy and if u have x1 why buy x2 if u can get the same goodies on ur current phone? (finger keyboard v2 is the soloution)
I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.
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I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.
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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10
Hmm, im glad we have x1 lol, and soon we will have x2 in a better case (rom in our x1 for peeps that dont understand)
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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10
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Hmm now that you mention it, it makes sense that the X1 cracked for no reason at all looking at it in that light. Atleast the hardware remained sturdy. I also looked at the X10 but somehow can't get past the absence of a hardware keyboard and android OS. I love winmo as a OS although a lot of people complain about it. And the best thing about it is that you can keep upgrading it. SE stated that X2 would be able to upgrade to WM7 once it's released which means next year this time my X1 will also be running it. Then there is the HTC interface porting, Starcraft porting ect. Maybe they will bring out a real upgrade for the X1 when WM7 releases. Android is way too limited in my opinion and if you have 1.6 there's no way to flash to 2.0 not to mention no pc porting
iPhone is rather high quality I must admit. We will have to wait and see. I'm actually quite angry at HTC now, since thats probably also the friggen reason my spacebar key cracked in it's first week of use. I have a Foxconn motherboard in my pc and must also admit it's never given me any kind of problem
Personally I am going to buy a HTC HD2 then they start to sell it here in Denmark! Cause I feel that the Xperia X1 lost its charm quickly for me!
I just heard about this great new: WP7 can be cracked to run on old HTC (OS WM6). Is this possible to have this capability on our X1? Someone has any new?
where did you read that ? WP7's min system requirements are above the X1 specs
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where did you read that ? WP7's min system requirements are above the X1 specs
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Very true not only the X1 but pretty much all of the WM devices, I've heard the HD2 running it but that is probably the only WM that can do it. @ usylsse84 but most importantly why waste your X1 with a locked down OS that's missing alot basic smartphone features you are defiantly not gaining anything by putting WP7 in your X1? And that 12 year old made looking square interface is retarded, I would be sick of looking at that interface after a week of using it and not having the option to change it lol GTFO. If you want WP7 then buy a WP7 phone it's that simple.
On second thoughts..I dont think it would run as smooth as the 1GHZ processor...