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seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
will holland win the European championship.............
we do not know what will happen in the future.
gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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Interesting, but I'm positive instead of upgrading the diamond, most people will just buy the new HTC (Probably a Touch) with WM7.
WM7 will be released at the beginning of 2009. Porbably announced earlier.
It is very likely that the Touch Diamond can run wm7 without problems. But nobody can tell you now...
Since HTC is planning for a WM7 device, they will not offer WM7 as a free upgrade for the TouchDiamond. If enough people buy the touch diamond they might offer this update for some money. Else we have to hope for some good "cooking" from the developers here in the forum...
very likely based on what?
If it's as much of an overhaul as Microsoft are saying it will be, then I'd say not supported. Will probably need a better touch screen.
Rory
withouth support for hardware features like
accelorometer and multitouch it would prob
be a kinda poor experience if it does
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very likely based on what?
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Good question
That's why I said: Very likely...
You might as well ask: What might WM7 change that makes it very unlikely that the Touch Diamond will not be albe to run it...
I asked HTC about the Diamond2 WM7 upgrade and they answered this:
"At the moment windows mobile 7 is unknown at this time. I can not give you the exact date when it will release. But I know that there will be a new upgrade will be available soon."
So is this good or bad?
Windows Mobile 7 has high requirements... check out http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html. The Diamond's 192MB ROM isn't even close to the 512MB required. Although, when it comes out, I have a feeling that our hackers will debloat it and make it run.
But it won't be official, that's for sure.
~codeslicer
i have see on youtube many videos with diamond and Winmo7 but its very slow at this time but its work!
You will have winmo7 on your Diamond than wait its nut funny at this time
Here are 2 Videos. The first Video i think thats real its slow but the last Video is so fast i think thats a fake :S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cv85Z2O5jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7UZ71uQHs&feature=related
the second video is an APP runs on WM6.5 it's name is THE HOST and it is in 1.5 version now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928
As mentioned earlier the requirements are not close enough to W7p, and if you have run xdandroid, the performance is okay but not there yet.
I have seen W7p theme for android, I have tried it and it seems pretty cool
Examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8119626#post8119626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864034
That first video looks amazing. Although I didn't expect WP7 to run sooo slowly.
gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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I think we might be able to install a windows 7 rom on Diamond altough it might not function properly because WM7 needs a lot more RAM and processing speed compared to WM6.1 and 6.5.
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
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I will work like crap.
A HTC Diamond barely manages to run a W6.5...It does run , but very slow and annoying.
Would`nt recommend going W7 on a Diamond , unless you have nerves of steel ^^
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
I might also add that it has not been done. Probably won't either, because nobody wants to downgrade their handheld.
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Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Torres 9 said:
Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Nope. Nobody bothered to port it over because it would be completely pointless. Whats in it for you to downgrade anyway?
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any ppl can make it happen on our x1?? that rom really nice~
nini8888 said:
any ppl can make it happen on our x1?? that rom really nice~
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srry man but this wm7 has different interface.... it will take alot of time till we get it work .. and sure it will be slowwww
i wouldnt call 6.5 usable on the x1 due to its poor performance.and you are talking about 7?!
If x2 will have update to WP7 then on x1 also will have it. But knowing SE, will not update X2 to WP7.
(sorry for my english)
misiekthcteam said:
If x2 will have update to WP7 then on x1 also will have it. But knowing SE, will not update X2 to WP7.
(sorry for my english)
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Its not even possible so dont even think about it.
Any news about WP7 on X1 ?
not knowing anything official on this, but...
with respect to the previous posts and from experience:
I really don't think X1 will get it from SE, as SE didn't even upgrade to an official WM6.5
additionally the X1 is a far cry from the minimum hw requirements and I honestly wouldn't want to test it even if a chef would make the effort
jm2cw though
wp7 requires snapdragon, capacitive touchscreen, 512 mb ram (i think), 5 megapixel camera,... x1 doesn't have any of these things. now, if xda-devs can get it working on x1, is different story
No chance for an X1 version of WP7
No chance for an X1 version of WP7...The minimum requirements for the WP7 is much higher than what we have in X1.....
Is it possible a Windows Phone 7 ROM for Topaz?
In the conference, seems WP7 is pretty amazing...
From what I understand, our phones don't have enough horsepower to run WP7. Gotta have at least a 1ghz processor. There are other requirements also but I can't remember them.
yeah true, but do we really need 1ghz. There is always the option, that most topaz users, would not want the entire OS, rather few things from it. Then i dont think we need 1GHZ.
What do you think?
I think the 1GHz and 576mb RAM is needed for Xbox life.Those new HTC phones will play most of Xbox360 games http://www.htc.com/europe/product/7trophy/overview.html
With ours Htc diamonds 2 we can't play xbox game ,but i think all other parts from os will be operating normally like as wm6.5.
user212 said:
I think the 1GHz and 576mb RAM is needed for Xbox life.Those new HTC phones will play most of Xbox360 games http://www.htc.com/europe/product/7trophy/overview.html
With ours Htc diamonds 2 we can't play xbox game ,but i think all other parts from os will be operating normally like as wm6.5.
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I don't think you will be able to play 360 games in WM7, you can access and update information on your xbox live account, and talk to friends, etc, but you wont be able to play your 360 games on your phone, windows phone 7 has its own games coming to it....
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I don't think you will be able to play 360 games in WM7, you can access and update information on your xbox live account, and talk to friends, etc, but you wont be able to play your 360 games on your phone, windows phone 7 has its own games coming to it....
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Maybe,but watch the trailer for HTC HD7 ,there the show real game play maybe i'm wrong ,but think about it.Sony has portable console -PSP ,but Xbox doesn't so, with those phone with those parameters Xbox have a portable console and it's on your phone ,but we will see when someone buy one of those HTC with wm7 and will share his experience
It's been answered many times in main WP7 thread, strict hardware requirements are needed more, if performance is not a matter, there must exist another WP7 device with a similar Qualcomm MSM7200 platform to extract drivers from.
The simple answer is NO and I really doubt there would be one.
Drakh said:
It's been answered many times in main WP7 thread, strict hardware requirements are needed more, if performance is not a matter, there must exist another WP7 device with a similar Qualcomm MSM7200 platform to extract drivers from.
The simple answer is NO and I really doubt there would be one.
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I must say by the standart no....But I know that the wp7 UI seems a low ram eater. We just need some awesome hackers that extract the basic rom and place all the features except for some like the xbox part in a rom we could use. Manilla 2.5 or sense was developed for hd2 and where using it. I beleive ut could be done. I think this requirements where made to bring the best of the phone and don't be stuck behind the lame and false publisity of the iphone.
...just we have to wait for WM7 kitchen...
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Is it possible a Windows Phone 7 ROM for Topaz?
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Yes, it is and I'm sure that will be a WM7 ROM for Topaz.
Of course, it could be better to have 1GHz processor but don't forget that Topaz can be safely overclocked to about 700 MHz and also don't forget that there are a lot of marketing reasons to NOT encourage porting WM7 on older mobile phones.
Sorry for bring up an old thread. Just wanna say something.
From a developer standpoint nothing is completely impossible. If someone were to make a direct port from WP7 to a slower device with less ram then some modifications will need to be done to it. This could mean leaving some parts of wp7 out (which may cause instability to applications that require those features) or developing a custom version of a system file for use in WP7 for the phone in question (also may cause instability if the programmer doesn't know what he/she's doing). Obviously it's not a simple "cut and paste" from WM to WP7.
Also, I have already tried to extract a NBH rom with WP7 on it in a WM rom extractor, just to test and see if the format was the same. The formats are different. They have differences in their sections so any normal WM boot loader wouldn't be able to load a WP7 rom in a WM rom format. A solution would probably be to flash a new boot loader to support WP7 roms however this is dangerous and has a very high risk of bricking your device (after all, the one thing that can really save you from bricking your device is your boot load to flash a new rom, so messing with the boot loader itself can do your device in for good unless you have a backup boot loader just lying around).
Take these words into consideration if you're working on a port.
MoshPuiu said:
Yes, it is and I'm sure that will be a WM7 ROM for Topaz.
Of course, it could be better to have 1GHz processor but don't forget that Topaz can be safely overclocked to about 700 MHz and also don't forget that there are a lot of marketing reasons to NOT encourage porting WM7 on older mobile phones.
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Could You pls share link to thread where are info regarding safety overclocking for Topaz mobile? Thanks.
mtucek said:
Could You pls share link to thread where are info regarding safety overclocking for Topaz mobile? Thanks.
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Just search for OCT 1.5
INFO
hmm Actually, you dont NEED a 1ghz processor, however you need a v7 instruction capable processor. TOPAZ has a v6 one, so its a no go.
On the other hand, if devs could get their hands on a the source code, remove the xbox live and strip high-requirement features then make the rom available on it should work, however WP7 was written to take advantage of v7 technology.
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hmm Actually, you dont NEED a 1ghz processor, however you need a v7 instruction capable processor. TOPAZ has a v6 one, so its a no go.
On the other hand, if devs could get their hands on a the source code, remove the xbox live and strip high-requirement features then make the rom available on it should work, however WP7 was written to take advantage of v7 technology.
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Good to read
Is windows phone 7 still not possible for Topaz?
the1980ar said:
Is windows phone 7 still not possible for Topaz?
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No it is not possible as MS need different hardware for WP and WM devices does not fit in there except the HD2 (I love my HD2 for this).
But I dont have a HD2 and only have TD2 at present. OK I will have to stay with WinMO 6.5 till I get a new WP7 mobile
Thank you all.
Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
Get an older phone if you want to use 6.5.
trade me, i've got a brand new, never used hd2 . j/j, i hate at$t.
HD7 with WinMo 6.5 is HD2
ha ha ha ha ha
sorry
this is really funny
get a new/reconditioned HD2 on email for around £250 in UK
Fundamentally incompatible
bartkozik said:
Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
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The hardware of the hd7 and the hd2 are almost identical, but the hd2 is actually better. It has a removable sd slot also.
The HD2 had to be redesigned because the Windows phone 7 OS is actually a silverlight runtime environment and needed different hardware and that means different drivers. There is currently no way to use the hardware on the hd7 with wm6.5.
I assume you ask this because you want the flexibility of third party apps...
I just went and downloaded Microsoft Expressions Blend 4 and started to write my own apps for my phone
Just get yourself an HD2...same performance
Lancelot
HTC Addict
HD2/HD7
Thanks
Super thanks to all of you!
I hoped to get an answer that I can install WM6.5 until there are some apps available for WM7 from my company. And then reinstall WM7. I guess it is not that easy... I will get the HD2 then...
Thank you for all the answers
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
tai4de2 said:
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
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It looks that everybody understood except you...
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
A little lucidity to sooth the insanity...
nurps said:
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
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What exactly are you asking? HTC 7 Pro?
The HTC HD7 is a windows mobile phone (Windows Mobile 7) it's really the HD3, but htc jumped to 7 to keep the number synonymous with WM7.... to avoid confusion, although people are still confused. Here's an easy way to look at it;
htc HD2 ---> WM6.5 OS
htc HD7 ---> WM7 (sometimes referred to as Windows Phone 7) OS
Seems you are confused a little..there is no Windows Mobile 7, there is Windows Phone and Windows Mobile..and that ended with 6.5.
But there is no other modern hardware with full keyboard..so the 7 Pro needs Windows Mobile.
When someone buys a Win 7 phone and wants to install 6.5 to get productivity then I really think MS have a major problem or the guy who started this thread is having a lend of us.
I would love to have 6.5.x on my HD7 dual boot
there are a lot of apps available for 6.5.x including multiple browsers copy and paste that i could use while we wait for wp7 to grow in functionality. At this point it would be ideal to be able to dual boot with 6.5.x and wp7, I could do things I need to do on 6.5 and then go back wp7 for the most part.
Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
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Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
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The HD7 feels faster because it runs WP7. Its processor runs at the same speed as the HD2's. The HD2 feels slower because WM6.5 is a big bag of smelly animal poo.
First of all there is no such thing as WM7, it was aborted in favour of WP7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile).
I suggest posting in the WP7 Rom development section your requests rather than here. Considering XDA-Devs is working on craking WP7 itself and when that happens possibly Android, I think the dead OS Windows Mobile will be low down on their list.
I also think dual booting is not all what it's made out to be! I dual-boot my HD2 to Android, and no longer use WM6.5. Why you ask? Well WM 6.5 is dead, most of the services (if not all) for WM6 are available on Android.
If you really must have Windows Mobile, best option is to get a HD2, it has very good support for WM, much better than any fudgeware that could be put on the HD7.
I have my HD7, my old HD2 still uses copilot and now a few apps only found in the Android market. I purchased a simple Pay as you go SIM to keep that phone alive.
I hope its possible soon..the HTC 7 Pro is on the market soon..and there is no alternative to it...
Give me strength!!!!!
What planet are you guys on? MS has switched development to WP7 and are not likley to support WM6 (maybe something in the numbering may give the game away here [sarcasm])
No matter how good the guys at XDA are, they are not going to crack WP7 overnight, it took them over 2 months to crack HD2 last year and that was on technology that didn't differ too much from WM6.1. WP7 is from the ground up.
As for the HD 7 Pro, it will come with WP7, nor Fairy phone 6 or anything else. And guess what? It's not even released yet so no point in asking people to crack it before it's been released.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/7pro/specification.html
Can one of the Mods close this useless thread or move it over to the HD7 Dev thread so all the Devs can laugh at it?
win mobile 6.5 on htc hd7
In reality, this requirement is due to the fact that many programs such as ACR (audio call recorder) and many other contacts backup is not running on win mobile 7. That's why I consider it important to install win 6.5 on hd7, at least temporarily.
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Is it possible to put wm 6.5 & HTC sense on hd7?? since the skyscape app. are not available for wp7 plus the interface of wp7 is silly.
hd7 is better than hd2 in design,display,camera & speed but the drawback is the OS...plz help im confused wt to buy
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Is it possible to put wm 6.5 & HTC sense on hd7?? since the skyscape app. are not available for wp7 plus the interface of wp7 is silly.
hd7 is better than hd2 in design,display,camera & speed but the drawback is the OS...plz help im confused wt to buy
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No one has ever ported winmo to hd7, and no one is working on it. So, its a no.
Another waste of thread
Why don't you just buy/keep the HD2?
Everything this guy just listed as an improvement and greater quality on the HD7 is a result of the OS, yet he wants to bring it down and move back to a slower, inferior OS... You won't keep the speed and effectiveness on WinMo, sorry, that is all due to the better OS.
considering the hd7 and the hd2 share most of the same hardware, any improvements are strictly because of the new OS which you would kill by putting winmo on it.
This OS is hardware accelerated for the snapdragon chip and gpu, that is what makes it shine.