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Most stable & bugfree winmo 6.5 based Custom ROM?

i see that there are many 6.5 based roms around here, but which of them are more stable and most bugfree?
some includes the nk.exe (native kernel), others not yet, some seems to still have few issues and patches are coming around. some includes Manilla and one not (and I want manilla TF3D).
vote here ...
i forgot to add an option for 'others', but seems these are the main english 6.5 based roms...

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This is not fair vote, my personal opinion
As you said” some includes the nk.exe (native kernel), others not yet, some seems to still have few issues and patches are coming around. some includes Manilla and one not “ .
Of our seniors using different philosophy to cook and ROMs not identical
I suggest voting in which ROM you are using TODAY, with a list of all masters

odd poll
with some now using the nk it seems like features and graphics are more of an issue at this point.
i use energy just because i like the graphics
shrug

after trying most of the roms out there, I think gtrab's barebone is one of the most bugfree avaliable right now.
this is in part because it's mainly a 6.5 stock rom, not many addons (yes, it has some enhancements) but the rom is nearly clean of addons so, in it's basic form it's nearly bugfree.
most of the bugs on the roms comes from the HTC manila components added.

i'm now on gtrab's xtreme 6.5 and am most impressed. i love the way the rom retain the unique xperia features - especially the dialer . the rom is fast and stable and bug free.

I have tried many roms and I will say Wild child WCX 6.5 series most stable roms, however I can't vote since it is not included in list

I am checking for a rom with Manilla TF3D, now i flashed to Valkyrie 2.1 but still not much convinced, ok it is super fast, but i get random crashes or blocks....
before with SmaBergs TouchX 10 i had to restart once every 3-4 days, now every few hours...
if i pass to a Manilla free rom, are there rhodium manilla cabs?

mcbyte_it said:
I am checking for a rom with Manilla TF3D, now i flashed to Valkyrie 2.1 but still not much convinced, ok it is super fast, but i get random crashes or blocks....
before with SmaBergs TouchX 10 i had to restart once every 3-4 days, now every few hours...
if i pass to a Manilla free rom, are there rhodium manilla cabs?
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Tried NRGZ28 Standard ROM? Is 6.5 with Manila, and a very good ROM!

I tried Valkyrie 2.1, but after 2 days of using it, i was not much satisfied, random blocks with black screen, TouchFLO crashes, and other minor things. I agree that it's very fast, but not yet suitable for everyday use.
Wanted to go to EnergyROM, but the thread discuseed some unfixed bugs.
so for now, i went back to TouchX 10.1 by Smaberg, fastest and most stable 6.1 ROM i have ever used....

mcbyte_it if you don't need panels v-lite 4.0 is very good. i moved to v-lite 4.0 - so far so very good. i love the option on what to install by editing the UC.

@Kitman:
No I don't need and will never use panels, but i really want Manilla TF3D, from what i read VLite does't have manilla TouchFLO, or am i wrong ??

It does not have Manilla

mcbyte_it said:
i see that there are many 6.5 based roms around here, but which of them are more stable and most bugfree?
some includes the nk.exe (native kernel), others not yet, some seems to still have few issues and patches are coming around. some includes Manilla and one not (and I want manilla TF3D).
vote here ...
i forgot to add an option for 'others', but seems these are the main english 6.5 based roms...
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have you tried all the winmo 6.5 roms available? have you ever tried one of wild child's roms? if you have you would have known that wild child's roms are by far the most bug free. why start a thread based on what you have used........... i try every rom that is released and i am afraid the one's you have mentioned are far from bug free. NRG has a good rom but not without its issues. i read all the threads and try all the roms so i know whats what! only true way to gauge whats bug free and start a thread like that!

I tried all the ROM's mentionned and I went back to EnergyROM from 2009/07/03...
Most stable (for me, YOUR milleage WILL vary!)
It's fast if you tweak it a bit... and it doesn't make my (capricious?) phone go into a boot loop like Wild Child's... (Thank Zod for Boot Loader reflashing! )
I'm now waiting for a new EnergyROM based on 23004+ but I'll probably gve all the major ones a try again when the newer versions come out...

This boot loop you mention(usually is accompanied with this error "upgrade rom code error please try again"OR it will get stuck at the boot screen)...this would be due to your connection to your computer...not usually related to a ROM.....can tell you it was a bad flash....had to speak on this one...this has NEVER been reported BY ANYONE with usage of my ROMs. So before stating it was due to my work,if you had to reflash your bootloader then thats not related to my work....
Regards,
WC
malixsys said:
I tried all the ROM's mentionned and I went back to EnergyROM from 2009/07/03...
Most stable (for me, YOUR milleage WILL vary!)
It's fast if you tweak it a bit... and it doesn't make my (capricious?) phone go into a boot loop like Wild Child's... (Thank Zod for Boot Loader reflashing! )
I'm now waiting for a new EnergyROM based on 23004+ but I'll probably gve all the major ones a try again when the newer versions come out...
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The Valkyrie Firestorm 2.4 is nice and bug free.
Multiple softwares installed and no problems.
Most stable 6.5 I've tried.

Personally I think if smaberg made touchx 10 xtreme with winmo 6.5 it would be the perfect rom, touch x 10 xtreme is by far the most bug free and fastest rom on xda developers site, just a shame it's not winmo 6.5

Honestly I don't think it's fair to have such a thread, however if starting such a poll then in my opinion ALL 6.5 roms shall be included and it's up to members to vote accordingly...

My experiences with some ROMs:
1. Touch IT v12 by itje- Nice UI(Touchflo),most stable(no hangs) and fastest although some apps that comes with the ROM does not function properly.
2. Valkyrie Firestorm V2.5 by agent47- Nice UI, you can choose between touchflo or basic WM6.5, hangs at least every 3 hours but most of the apps work that comes with the ROM. eats up battery fast.
3.XTREME TITANIUM TF3D-KILLER XPERT [SEX1 R3] by gtrab - Most Xperiaish rom, stable also, most apps and panel work, eats a lot of battery also.

Are all LEO ROM's practically unusable ?

Hey Everyone,
I really need you to answer this question.
Are all Leo Roms laggy?? especially when you enter the Sub-Menues or is my xperia just screwed up and not delivering the right performance. For some reason, All leo roms I have tried are not usable because they are
A. : to Unstable
B. : have extreme a good 2 second lag when switching from Tab to Tab in TF3D
C. : Get even slower after a few programs are launched and closed again
D. : Sometimes the call button reacts 10 seconds after I pressed it and the whole device goes into rage mode; executing all commands I tried to press in desperation at once.
Is that all normal? are all Leo Roms practically unuseable?
Please let me know
Thank you so much

The HTC Leo device has not even been released. The Leo Manilla is a work in progress... It's Beta quality. The Leo device uses a 1GHz CPU much faster than the 528MHz CPU in the X1. We should be thankful that the cooks make it usable even at all.
I'm sure as Leo Manilla matures, it will become faster and more responsive. Until then, you should not really use it if you cannot put up with the lags.
Many of the Leo Manilla features have been implimented in the latest 2.1 Manilla. Soooo, just use one of the cooked Roms with the latest 2.1.1919 Manilla.
If the Leo Manilla is too unusable for you, then jsut don't use it.

If you want to see how far Leo ROM development has come I recommend Agent_47's Valkyrie 3.8.53 Leo ROM. Fast, stable, decent battery usage. Some things have a little lag, but definitely usable and not enough to be irritating.
It is the first Leo ROM I have tried that I would consider using every day.

I would not call them unusable.
IT really depends what you do with your phone, how many applications you run simultaneously.
For me it is very frequent to connect via bluetooth to my car system, listen to muisc while using GPS sat nav, while keeping PUSH email active in background, RSS reader and weather update.
Leo ROMS tend to get extremely laggy in this kind scenario and if I Receive a call everything goes to hell.
However, if you are not a power user, Leo can be fine.

exxi said:
Hey Everyone,
I really need you to answer this question.
Are all Leo Roms laggy?? especially when you enter the Sub-Menues or is my xperia just screwed up and not delivering the right performance. For some reason, All leo roms I have tried are not usable because they are
A. : to Unstable
B. : have extreme a good 2 second lag when switching from Tab to Tab in TF3D
C. : Get even slower after a few programs are launched and closed again
D. : Sometimes the call button reacts 10 seconds after I pressed it and the whole device goes into rage mode; executing all commands I tried to press in desperation at once.
Is that all normal? are all Leo Roms practically unuseable?
Please let me know
Thank you so much
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never say never
try by Agent Valkyrie_v3.9.60!
and be surprised

forget about the other LEO ROMs like Touch-IT / Rota / ...etc ..
when it comes to LEO, Valkyrie is your friend
it is very stable / usable / even fast !!

A ROM without Landscape is useless when using the Hardware-keyboard... That makes LEO useless!

I usually HATE the newer ones, as PCTech4U and Smaberg/mr rusch's TouchX roms are better BUT i must say Christian's Rom and X1Owner's X10 rom's are good.
I am currently using X10's rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564298
It's VERY fast, got all the eye candy you could want! Try that. I was just doing my weekly backup and flash a new rom to try, but i've stuck with X1Ov1.2 LEO WM6.5.1 23060 MANILA2.5.1919.2828 R3A ENG (WWE) [ONLINE] as i've been impressed.
IF only that came without Manilla 2.5 as I dont mind the default windows 6.5 style.

add a poll the results may surprise you
i tested a few 6.5 leo roms and i really hate most of them. as you said, they are not nearly as responsive or stable as 6.1
i dont think that we will ever get fast, stable and smooth leo based rom even after the final release of leo. its just made for a device that has much much better specs than our x1 (hd2 has 448MB memory with 1GHZ ).

I agree, X10 seems to be the best for now.

Stable ROM with Win 6.5.1 and Manila 2.5

So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?

That's a good question. I don't know if a total stock ROM exist with 6.5.1/3 and Manila 2.5.

Give it a try
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it

geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Can I also back this question, that is exactly what I am looking for.

Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.

vinsyl said:
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.

The best ROM ! Stable for daily use...
As my try outs, and i have tried most of the ROMs here...
You "must" try this BEST ARK AF_Rhodium ROM.
It is the best stable daily use that i am using for couple days.
The ROM kink to forum origin...
Enjoy your Rhodium Phone!

BeEazy10 said:
Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
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Thanks man, but I guess I'm more into Manila 2.5 than any other customisations.

elab said:
vinsyl said:
Originally Posted by vinsyl View Post
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
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Vinsyl, thanks very much yes, elab is right, you make some good points.
However, may I digress...
I have already done a lot of investigating into the differences between the builds....
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
- After research I also came to the conclusion that it Manila 2.5 was heavily buggy in pre-release, especially in landscape mode..... however, having now seen a full release on the HD2 and I'm guessing working in full landscape mode with all it's own apps, I was guessing that one of the CHEF's will have had a chance to rip Manila 2.5 out of the HD2 and whack it in a TP2 rom.
So Remember, I'm not looking for a STOCK rom, that comes from HTC. I'm looking for a Stock ROM base, cooked up to WM 6.5.1 with a seasoning of Manila 2.5 and no further additives. Is there a chef willing to try something so CRAZY?!

geejayoh said:
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
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6.5 does threaded SMS. (it's the first thing I turn off though, I hate it) You will need a tweak program to enable / disable, sometimes the cook will provide something built in. (sometimes in Start -> Settings -> System menu there is a "Threaded SMS" icon, otherwise use Rhodium Tweak Tool or HD Tweak one of those will do it)
And 6.5.1 has the "silly blobs at the bottom" same as 6.5.3
If you want start menu at the top you want 6.5 (or 6.1 I suppose). Also if you are looking for STABLE you want 6.5.
6.5.1 / 6.5.3 are from leaked Microsoft BETA code and therefore aren't really designed to be stable, of course you may find they are stable for you, I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest

MadBeef said:
I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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question why did you stop using it? I am thinking of picking up EnergyROM_23081

Suggest a ROM for my X1 ! Please!!

Okay, I have spent the past 2 months evaluating user feedback about the various wonderful and sekcy ROMs the wonderful chefs here have cooked for us - but being a n00b in this field I am totally CONFUSED!
I need help from you guys to suggest a custom ROM which should have the following features:
WM 6.5
MaxManila 2.6
X2: Dialer, Panel Manager etc. etc.
Facebook App
Should be stable, speedy and bug-free
ActiveSync should work
Can anyone suggest which ROMs to try out?

If you are a noob I would probably recommend you stay away from 6.5 builds and manila 2.5 type ROMS.
They are still pretty buggy and error prone. I have recently tried some, Untamed (manila 2.1) and EnergyROM( both manila 2.1 and 2.5 versions), but have reverted back to TouchX 10.1 because it is fast, stable, and compatible with X2 add-ons (except Myriad Java didn't seem to play nice).
If you want to give them a shot I think EnergyROM is the flashiest, and if you get the LEO version with the 28XXX core it will look fabulous. I flashed my girlfriends HTC Pure with EnergyROM and she likes it a lot, but it is much more stable on HTC Pure than on Xperia.
I'll say, though, that if functionality is more important than looks, get TouchX (or one of it's variants, there is an X2 one available). It is WM 6.1 (which is admittedly a little ugly) and it is not going to be 2.5, but that means it will work well in landscape, and be super-stable.
BTW, ActiveSync always works. And facebook app works on everything, just install it.
Hope this helps.

Thanks Hannigan! I think I'll have to do quite a few experiments before I get the ROM I like. I'll try out both EnergyROM and TouchX versions and finally stick with the one I like.

ROM Advice (Sorry!)

Hi Guys,
Sorry to post here but I've spent a few weeks trying to find a ROM for my friend's HD (I no longer own one - so can't test).
Every time I have to try again he is without his phone for a week so I really want to get it right this time.
We've previously used Dutty's but over the last few months, every ROM we've tried has resulted in the periodic SMS not sending (stuck in outbox) issue. This doesn't occur in the official Touch3D rom.
After a few hours searching it seems that many current ROMs suffer from this. I'm wondering it it's a Sense 2.5 issue, as I believe it was with my HD2 originally.
If so, can anyone recommend a stable 2.1 release? He is not worried about other options, just reliable HTC texting. Dutty or Miri sort of thing but I can't seem to find which versions are/were the most stable (without the sms bug) amongst the 1000's of posts.
Or any fixes for the issue (we've tried unicode setting).
Thanks for your time.
Cheers - Adam.

you could try Topix 3.5. One of the best Sense 2.1 roms in my opinion .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640

I'm all about the reliable texting too. I used to use Dutty but am now on Topix M2.5. 3.6 has a few glitches with texting but 3.5.7 is amazing and 100% reliable. Hope that helps

Oh... also, i use the non-HTC messaging versions of ROMs. I think your issues are with HTC messaging and not M2.5!

Manila 2.5 roms: I found topix and cloudy (without htc messaging( to be very stable and i personally have had no issues with texting..
Manila 2.1 roms: topix 3.5 with windows 6.1 (very fast) or windows 6.5 are very good roms. Personally found the windows 6.1 version to be really stable, better battery life and fast.

Just to add to the mix, I am using Energy's latest 21903 Manila ROM with CHT and can confirm that there are no problems with SMS. Wouldn't revert to 2.1 as this is a truly backward step.

Look at NRGZ Energy Roms, both 21XXX and 23XXX are awesome and stable. The latest built of course isnt as stable as the 21XXX builts but has some new functions missing in 21XXX, dunno which though.
--> SMS problem never occured with my use of NRGZ his ROMS, but no HTC Messaging is included, and that could be a good thing

Check my sig for the fastest and most stable ROM I've ever tried

Hey
Can anyone please tell me which ROM is the one from this video?
youtube. com/watch?v=Al6hrV9bOB8
It looks very nice and I would very much like to flash this.
Thanks!