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Windows Mobile 6.5

Hi friends
Is there is any possibility to see WM6.5 for Hima also as Blueangle?
See here
[Release]Windows Mobile6.5(BETA) Professional(QVGA)For_HTC BlueAngel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428030

hesham, afaik its not real WM6.5
here is my proof :
DFT said:
Hello sir, First off, congrats on the great release here on xda, and welcome!!
I have noted a couple things in my efforts to dump and port your wm 6.5 build
wince.nls same as 21014 build
mxip_system.vol again no changes in SYS SHELL
compared my 21014 dump and this one i got 325 identical files.
Was wondering if you could speak to what has changed in the base core of the os besides the naming in the shellres.dll.409.mui and the new interfaces you specify
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Also it seems very early beta leakage.
Thanks

i need wm6.5 also.when you have ,please sent to me the link.thanks.

I think it not easy , Wish our Hima can run wm6.5

Well, the problem with WM6.5 is that it's really, and I mean REALLY BIG... many libraries got so huge... there were problems with getting WM6 fit into this tiny 30MB ROM, and now... if it will happen, it will be heavy cut.
Besides.... all the currently leaked versions (till 21159 build) are extremely sloooow.... so we have to wait more.

I porting This Build, but not now

Regarding to miri's WM6.5 & Dutty's WM6.1

I've tried both and got a question :
Why the interface of miri's WM6.5 is worse than Dutty's ? Isn't WM6.5 more latest than WM6.1 ?
Could anyone please make it clear here ? Thanks in advance !

abc138 said:
I've tried both and got a question :
Why the interface of miri's WM6.5 is worse than Dutty's ? Isn't WM6.5 more latest than WM6.1 ?
Could anyone please make it clear here ? Thanks in advance !
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Which interface are you talking about?
I do prefer WinMo 6.5 interface over 6.1.
There are two main changes (visual wisse) on WinMo 6.5 which is the main screen where you have Titanium and the start menu.
On WinMo 6.5 things tend to be more finger friendly than in WinMo 6.1.
As I said before, I do prefer how things are going from 6.1 to 6.5.....

Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. They've been at it a while, we're currently @ version 3. A good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft, who are just now attempting to make the OS more finger friendly and though its newer it is sadly not as refined or cohesive. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new htc start menu, but with htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.

wsouza said:
Which interface are you talking about?
I do prefer WinMo 6.5 interface over 6.1.
There are two main changes (visual wisse) on WinMo 6.5 which is the main screen where you have Titanium and the start menu.
On WinMo 6.5 things tend to be more finger friendly than in WinMo 6.1.
As I said before, I do prefer how things are going from 6.1 to 6.5.....
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Sorry for my English !
I mean the popup interface when a function button is touched. Dutty's is very smooth & clear, including fonts, and you can touchflo it, but WM6.5's is not...

DRTigerlilly said:
Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. a good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft and though its newer it is sadly not as refined. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new start menu, htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
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Thanks man, you got the point!

abc138 said:
I mean the popup interface when a function button is touched. Dutty's is very smooth & clear, including fonts, and you can touchflo it, but WM6.5's is not...
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Why is a modern VW Beetle slower then an old Porsche? Because they are different cars...

Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?

I tested almost all ROM's from here and the one i found with not so many bugs is that from Laurentius26.
Miri's ROM it's nice but have many bugs , last version i try it's V4 Premium and as you see in his post have many bugs but it's faster (33-35%)
That from Laurentius26 it's not so fast (40-45%) but doesn't have so many bugs so untill miri will improve his version i'll stay and old wwe 6.1

I think this thread should be closed. You are comparing two different operating systems so they are not the same and to put them into a comparison is doing any thing good for either cook.
My 2cts worth

furrypotato said:
Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
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Thanks furrypotato, you've given me what I'd been looking for!

LuCkYaN said:
I tested almost all ROM's from here and the one i found with not so many bugs is that from Laurentius26.
Miri's ROM it's nice but have many bugs , last version i try it's V4 Premium and as you see in his post have many bugs but it's faster (33-35%)
That from Laurentius26 it's not so fast (40-45%) but doesn't have so many bugs so untill miri will improve his version i'll stay and old wwe 6.1
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Thanks for your valuable experience LuCkYaN, maybe I should try Laurentius26's, Dutty's still has ringtone problem...

And Laurentius26 still have bug on ringtone, you can not change ringtone.
p.s. somebody a little up said this thread should be closed in my oppinion have right and not
1. yes users should enter everyone rom thread and see what bug have and if he want will install if no should search another one
2. no because as i did i don't find a thread like this on this part of forum and start to flashing with all roms to see what's new what that have and don't and was good for me but for a new user who join and don't have time to flash all the time and want one good and stable rom to know where to go
On Miri's thread a guy said he want a rom simple without nothing that who came from HTC without bugs but isn't here something like that. In my oppinion if somebody have that ROM i want to post here because came a time when i'll be bored to flash all the time and i just want a rom who to be stable (as i allready said this is my oppinion without upset somebody all ROM's Dutty / Laurentius26 / Miri are good and i apreciate they'r effort )

LuCkYaN said:
And Laurentius26 still have bug on ringtone, you can not change ringtone.
p.s. somebody a little up said this thread should be closed in my oppinion have right and not
1. yes users should enter everyone rom thread and see what bug have and if he want will install if no should search another one
2. no because as i did i don't find a thread like this on this part of forum and start to flashing with all roms to see what's new what that have and don't and was good for me but for a new user who join and don't have time to flash all the time and want one good and stable rom to know where to go
On Miri's thread a guy said he want a rom simple without nothing that who came from HTC without bugs but isn't here something like that. In my oppinion if somebody have that ROM i want to post here because came a time when i'll be bored to flash all the time and i just want a rom who to be stable (as i allready said this is my oppinion without upset somebody all ROM's Dutty / Laurentius26 / Miri are good and i apreciate they'r effort )
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That's what I want to say too, thank you again, LuCkYaN!!!

DRTigerlilly said:
Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. They've been at it a while, we're currently @ version 3. A good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft, who are just now attempting to make the OS more finger friendly and though its newer it is sadly not as refined or cohesive. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new htc start menu, but with htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
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DRTigerLilly, say's it here, quite right. We must remember also these are Beta's. Dutty has done a fantastic job, both have to test and make the best of Widows and HTC interfaces.
I think you are right to ask and we struggle on to make the perfect ROM
Well done people!

I tested both as well and while i LOVED the 6.5 interface there were still too many bugs. So i switched to Dutty 2.3 (Winmo 6.1) but the one thing i HATE there is the new start menu.. i mean the old drop down was the thing i was really used to...so please can any1 tell me how to get that back on without changing roms? and also the new camera app is and duttys installer for old camera isint working .... any fix for that?? PLZ help me out...i hate new menu

sephiroth_vg said:
PLZ help me out...i hate new menu
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Search in the forum, there are many solutions, many threads about it.

bobsbbq said:
I think this thread should be closed. You are comparing two different operating systems so they are not the same and to put them into a comparison is doing any thing good for either cook.
My 2cts worth
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I think its a good discussion about 2 operating systems.. u have to know the pros and cons of each and feed back form different users

abc138 said:
Thanks furrypotato, you've given me what I'd been looking for!
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well, unfortunately what he told you is just his opinion, and I think he is wrong. I think it's actually the other way around. TouchFlow was a sort of temporary fix by HTC to bring up a GUI that can compete with Iphone until MS has their own solution. With 6.5 it's not necessary anymore. The newer 6.5 versions such as Miri's V5 easily beat TouchFlo and whatever 6.1 has to offer. The new 6.5 GUI is not a "curtain" like TF, covering up something, but a genuine new interface. I don't even load the manila with TouchFlo anymore, the generic 6.5 GUI is clearly better.

furrypotato said:
Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
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I totally agree with you!

Please don't close this thread yet!
Perhaps the chef names should be removed as roms based on 6.1 with Manila v3 are only subtly different and the same goes for 6.5 roms (IN MY OPINION...)
It is interesting to compare experiences side by side.
I know it is quite shallow but although I like Titanium it doesn't have the same wow factor as v3 Manila does and on a day to day basis, I don't really need to go much deeper.
I also feel that 6.1 has so much support here that I can revive the wow factor with regularity.
6.5 will continue to be installed every couple of weeks though

wm 6.5

hello guys!
wm 6.5 is now available but htc won't supply it for touch diamond phone.
now i have a question, @ the rom section there are many wm6.5 rom files, but i am a newbie and dont know which one is the best?
is anyone familiar about that roms? is there a rom with the final 6.5?
and which one is clean? some guys are changing everything... i just want an original touch flo 3D (newest version) and wm 6.5?
thx!
so long

Mmmm...
I'm afraid no one can tell you which is best because everyone has different tastes. All you can do is try them and see which suits your needs.
None of the 6.5 ROM's are completely bug-free. They are improving, and the ROM cookers are doing a good job making them work, but as they're not designed specifically for the Diamond, bugs are bound to exist however small.
If you can live with a bug or two, go ahead and try some, but don't expect perfection. I know it's a bind, but you really have to read through the posts to find out what users of the various ROM's are experiencing.
I've tried all the 6.5's, some better than others, but as I would like one to be how you would by it new, they all seem to disappoint somewhat. I'm gonna wait and buy a new device with 6.5 pre-installed

foxm said:
hello guys!
wm 6.5 is now available but htc won't supply it for touch diamond phone.
now i have a question, @ the rom section there are many wm6.5 rom files, but i am a newbie and dont know which one is the best?
is anyone familiar about that roms? is there a rom with the final 6.5?
and which one is clean? some guys are changing everything... i just want an original touch flo 3D (newest version) and wm 6.5?
thx!
so long
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How do you know that htc will not supply it for diamond? That is a bit of disappointment for me because i was waiting for some realase xD

grahamkdt said:
I'm afraid no one can tell you which is best because everyone has different tastes. All you can do is try them and see which suits your needs.
None of the 6.5 ROM's are completely bug-free. They are improving, and the ROM cookers are doing a good job making them work, but as they're not designed specifically for the Diamond, bugs are bound to exist however small.
If you can live with a bug or two, go ahead and try some, but don't expect perfection. I know it's a bind, but you really have to read through the posts to find out what users of the various ROM's are experiencing.
I've tried all the 6.5's, some better than others, but as I would like one to be how you would by it new, they all seem to disappoint somewhat. I'm gonna wait and buy a new device with 6.5 pre-installed
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thx a lot! i think i found one, but i am afraid of that hard-spl bootloader
McWpl said:
How do you know that htc will not supply it for diamond? That is a bit of disappointment for me because i was waiting for some realase xD
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there was a public saying about it... i am very disappointed :/
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ROM Confusion

Merry Christmas all!
I'm not exactly a newbie when it comes to Windows Mobile or flashing ROMS, but thus far I have stuck to "official" versions. Now I'm looking to get into some of the custom ROMS I keep reading about.
I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but the ROM development forum is a confusing disorganized mess for someone like me who is just catching up now. The WIKI led me to a link (that hasn't been updated since September) where it looks like someone started to organize everything, but apparently gave up.
Is there a current list somewhere of all the different ROMS available, what OS version they are based on, and a short description of them?
Thanks for any help!

Long story short:
This specific forum (the current one that you posted your thread in) is for various GSM ROMs that include WM 6.5 and WM 6.5.x. Basically, you can tell a good bit by reading the title of the threads, but clicking on the thread will give you more insight as to what apps and customization are included.
Also note:
Windows Mobile 21xxx = Windows Mobile 6.5
Windows Mobile 28xxx = Windows Mobile 6.5.x (x=1, 2, 3, etc)
For example, if you look at this thread's title:
|R|6.5.3|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Leo" 28014/21885 |Dec 17| ★ Sense 2.5/ MaxManila /Dusk
|R|6.5.3|ROM|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Phoenix 2" 28014/21885 ★Dec 17★ Sense 2.1/Titanium ★
You will see that there is a Windows Mobile 6.5 version (21885) and a Windows Mobile 6.5.3 version (28014). You can also see Sense 2.5 and 2.1 named (Sense 2.5 is the newer Touch Flo 3D interface used on the HD2). Sense 2.1 is what you probably use now and it is more stable. Sense 2.5 still has a little ways to go (screen rotation being one of them). Many ROMs include downloads that include one or both sense versions (2.1 or 2.5).
If you click on the threads, you'll get more info as can be seen below:
You will find TWO core versions of my ROM.
* The 21885 Build is from the OEM COM2 Tree and is the most reliable and bug free release. I recommend you start with this first!
And...
* The 28014 Build that's the latest in the 6.5.3 series with the Start/Close buttons at the bottom. These builds are not as stable but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft.
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IMissPalmOS said:
I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but the ROM development forum is a confusing disorganized mess for someone like me who is just catching up now. The WIKI led me to a link (that hasn't been updated since September) where it looks like someone started to organize everything, but apparently gave up.
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I agree with you, and I found it very very confusing at first when I came here. However, over a short period of time I could start to see what the more popular ROMs were (based on the number of people giving feedback about them etc), and started to get an idea on what they were about based on reading the latest replies (most of the threads are way too big to read all the way through !);
Is there a current list somewhere of all the different ROMS available, what OS version they are based on, and a short description of them?
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I don't think so, but the previous reply has given some useful tips. Normally in the first few posts for each ROM you'll find some sort of basic description and screenshots. Don't be afraid to just jump into the water and start flashing though, you can easily change which ROM you're running if you don't like it. Stick to 6.5 (not 6.5.3) and Manila/Sense 2.1 if you want to stay with the "safer" (most stable) options initially.

Keep reading! Keep flashing!!! Good luck.

ai6908 said:
Keep reading! Keep flashing!!! Good luck.
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yep +1.
no reason for a new thread on this man... flash till you find whats good for you.

[Q] What is the best WM 6.5 ROM for a beginner?

I literally want to use the same stock ROM except change WM 6.1 to 6.5. Is this actually possible? If not, then what ROM out there is closest to my requirements and still allows the X1 to run at a fairly decent pace? I heard WM 6.5 slows the X1 to a crawl, is this true?
Thanks.
ianwuk

A difficult question to answer, it's a bit like saying which car can you recommend me?
Anyway, when you say stock ROM - 6.5 has not been released for Xperia, so you will need to consider the custom ROMs.
Then you have all flavours. The biggest difference is between 6.5 and 6.5.3. The latter is more "touch friendly" and you can quickly identify them in photos because it has a big Windows icon at the bottom left.
Then the UI that sits on top, I assume you would be looking for Sense (Manila 2.5).
I would suggest going for 6.5 - I've been using Valkyrie Firestorm for a while now, and it's fast and stable. A new version of the ROM - the version number is not related to the WM version number - has been released (v7.3 I think), but try this: http://valkyrie.htc-files.com/downl...irestormLEO/v7.0/x1_firestorm_v7.0.21907XT.7z
the thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050

Thread moved to Q&A as not Rom Dev

ianwuk said:
I heard WM 6.5 slows the X1 to a crawl, is this true?
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Depends on the rom, but usually definitely NOT true. Try Valkyrie (at default manila is not active, so it is REALLY fast), as suggested above.

I like x826 for performance and HTC goodies. For X2 ported, I really like XPure II.

mymailx said:
I like x826 for performance and HTC goodies. For X2 ported, I really like XPure II.
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quote, I installed x826 about 1 week ago and I'm really surprised, that rom is too good!