Hello,
I have an X1i with software version R1AA017, Generic_UK.
I have read that there is an official SE upgrade named R3A.
I would like to know what was your experience with this upgrade, if it was worth of doing it, what benefits did you get, and how "safe" was the procedure (I don´t wont to brick my X1!).
Thank you!
"safest" procedure would be to use SEUS.
And yes, R3A is a big upgrade from your R1A.
Upgrading firmware is a lot of work because you have to reinstall everything from scratch.
Can someone tell me which advantages / fixes could I expect if upgrading to R3A??
I want to see if it is worth the effort...
Thank you very much.
Wow, its been a while since being on R1A, but as far as I can recall you gain:
1. Better battery life
2. Better reception
3. Improved panel manager response and stability
4. Improved camera menu system response
You lose
1. Compatibility with the HTC Youtube App that's posted on here (no longer do you get rapidly streaming high quality, instead it pauses and buffers ALL the time)
2. You lose smooth scrolling with the optical joystick in Opera, instead the screen jumps as you scroll with the optical joystick (finger scrolling is still fine though).
That's all I can remember. Unfortunately, as far as I know, SE never put out release notes for any of its firmware upgrades.
Thank you very much.
I think it´s worth the upgrade!
I will do it in the next weeks using SEUS, which was pointed as the safest method.
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I searched but didn't really find any elaborate writeups on the real-life differences between the Hermes and the Kaiser. I'm contemplating the same with my AT&T 8525 to the 8925 Tilt.
Specifically of interest would be:
- How's the GPS? I had the HP before and the reception sucks bad that it was practically unusable indoors. Also it was slow as molasses.
- Hows the 3mp camera? The one on the 8525 blows, not even good enough for those rare occasions when it gets used. Is it tons better on the Tilt? I guess I will lose using the flash as a flashlight.
- Does things run a whole lot faster, Safari, PIE e.g.
- Will most of the 8525 software port over without much grief?
Thanks a bunch.
Having moved from an 8525 to a Tilt and running a lot of apps w/o flashing the ROM to something other than the ATT-installed ROM I can tell you:
1. The Tilt is FAR, FAR better than the 8525!
a. It is VERY stable and rarely freezes up (I only get into trouble if I am playing with the phone (settings or something and a text message comes in)
b. I run a couple of apps that require .NET to be installed - it's already on the phone w/ WM6 so that saves a TON of internal memory
c. Speaking of internal memory - there is more than enough to go around...I am sure that at some point I'll have to think about managing it a bit better
d. The phone is FAST. My contacts list has 2400+ it used to take the 8525 about 30 sec to load it. About 10 w/ the Tilt.
e. The only software I had an issue with was Opera as it is keyed to the Device ID. I asked, they sent a new reg code. Everything else works just fine (I probably have 40 apps on the thing, most straight from the 8525).
f. The camera. It is a little sharper. I think the color is much better. The autofocus, though, means that your subject has to be motionless and it takes a bit longer to be able to snap the picture. I miss the flash, but always have done OK w/ just the screen as a flashlight (I eat lots of carrots)
g. I have a very long history w/ Symbian phones and had switched to the 8525 since Sony Ericsson no-longer make a Symbian phone that supports the US bandwidths. The 8525 was OK, but no-where near as good as my old P910 in terms of stability. I was not too impressed with WM as per the 8525 and missed the stability of my P910. With the Tilt, though, I won't be looking to switch back to Symbian unless SE revolutionize phones as they did with the original P900 again. The Tilt is THAT good!
- How's the GPS? I had the HP before and the reception sucks bad that it was practically unusable indoors. Also it was slow as molasses.
--I love the GPS (I never had it before). It's pretty responsive and you can use any GPS software solution you like. Reception for me (AT&T in MD/DC) is great.
- Hows the 3mp camera? The one on the 8525 blows, not even good enough for those rare occasions when it gets used. Is it tons better on the Tilt? I guess I will lose using the flash as a flashlight.
--I've taken some pics and they came out better on my Tilt than my 8525. Yes you lose the flash but you gain auto focus. You can also find the WordConnect Business card reader on these forums which is definitely a bonus.
- Does things run a whole lot faster, Safari, PIE e.g.
--Honestly, I can't say that programs run any faster. They are pretty snappy but if you got a great ROM on your 8525, those ran just as good.
- Will most of the 8525 software port over without much grief?
--Mostly yes because a lot of software is OS dependent not hardware dependent. I haven't had any problems using the same software...in fact my Today screen is almost exact to my 8525 Today screen.
Other advantages: spring assisted slide, screen tilt (obviously), radio will be upgraded to HSUPA, more on board memory, 3mp camera, gps.
Some disadvatages: no flash on camera, no front camera (tilt)...that's all i can think of.
Hey I too found it hard or conflicting to find information, can anyone answer any of the below? Thanks.
1) How is the stylus? (Is it the same as the Hermes, collapsable)
2) I am guessing that the battery is completly different?
3) Does the battery meter truly show power remaining? Or is it like the hermes in 10% increments?
4) Does it come with a belt clip or holder or cradle?
5) How about headphones? Still propeirity? Do they come with it?
6) Finally, does the hardware allow for call recording (both parties and not just the user himself)
1) How is the stylus? (Is it the same as the Hermes, collapsable)
Not collapsable. I like it much better. ATT version comes with an extra in the box.
2) I am guessing that the battery is completly different?
Can't remember if the battery is different. I believe it it is. However, there is no switch to get to the battery compartment. You have to press hard and push up a real pain.
3) Does the battery meter truly show power remaining? Or is it like the hermes in 10% increments?
This is much better. Shows true power remaining in 1% increments.
4) Does it come with a belt clip or holder or cradle?
ATT version does not come with any of these.
5) How about headphones? Still propeirity? Do they come with it?
Dido on this and doesn't come with a splitter. No worries still use the one that came with my old 8525.
6) Finally, does the hardware allow for call recording (both parties and not just the user himself)
No. I have heard of other 3rd party apps that allow this.
Thanks jeffwill2, in my book a very helpful first post!
Battery contacts are in different location than 8525.
they put a notch in the kaiser battery so hermes batteries wont fit in it (i think this was by design)
I have upgraded from the Tytn to the Tytn II.
With the faster processor I really expected much faster response bt this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes you tap the X in the top right hand corner and you sit and wait while it decides to exit the application.
Touch the top right hand icon to see running apps, cick stop all, allthe apps clear from the list but the window still stays open forever almost as if its hung.
Try and answer a call and there is an obvious delay between touching the answer button and the call actually being answered.
I have a no name brand 1GB micro SD card in the Tytn II.
This poor performance seems intermittent.
Any clues?
The phone is running ROM 1.56.05.5 Radio 1.27.12.11
samsat said:
I have upgraded from the Tytn to the Tytn II.
With the faster processor I really expected much faster response bt this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes you tap the X in the top right hand corner and you sit and wait while it decides to exit the application.
Touch the top right hand icon to see running apps, cick stop all, allthe apps clear from the list but the window still stays open forever almost as if its hung.
Try and answer a call and there is an obvious delay between touching the answer button and the call actually being answered.
I have a no name brand 1GB micro SD card in the Tytn II.
This poor performance seems intermittent.
Any clues?
The phone is running ROM 1.56.05.5 Radio 1.27.12.11
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Try one of the cooked ROMs and you should see improvements.
Also processor is not faster. It has exactly the same chip as TyTN.
Just double the RAM and double the storage.
And by looking at your signature you have been using cooked/hacked ROM's in original TyTN. I find these improve performance much more than the original stock ROM's.
Do as mentioned above and install a new ROM. Dutty's Touch with .NET 3.5 is my personal pref at the mo.
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Also processor is not faster. It has exactly the same chip as TyTN.
Just double the RAM and double the storage.
And by looking at your signature you have been using cooked/hacked ROM's in original TyTN. I find these improve performance much more than the original stock ROM's.
Do as mentioned above and install a new ROM. Dutty's Touch with .NET 3.5 is my personal pref at the mo.
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Hey mate, that's not true.
TyTN II has a completely different type of processor. It has the same speed (400Mhz), but that won't say it isn't faster. This new Qualcomm processor has to be much faster(it is faster). Only problem is that the video isn't hardware supported, and that can make it feel slower when running some apps.
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Also processor is not faster. It has exactly the same chip as TyTN.
Just double the RAM and double the storage.
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You really should do your homework before spouting off and confusing people. Both phones run @400Mhz, but that's about the only similarity. The two CPU's are very different. I read on here awhile back that the Qualcomm CPU is actually very similar to a dual-core CPU in that it has two distinct processors on it.
Hermes:
Processor: 400 MHz Samsung
Memory: 128 MB ROM/128 MB RAM
Kaiser:
Processor: 400 MHz Qualcomm MSM7200
Memory: 256 MB ROM/128 MB RAM
Thanks for the replies.
It seems that the II has the same performance problems as the I.
Makes you wonder if HTC were listening before they released the II.
Looks like I will have to make use of one of the cooked ROMs.It just amazes me that the users have to fix the shortcomings of the phone!!!
I think theyhave increased the cpu speed and memory to compensate for the lack of direct draw.......just a conspiracy
Lol!
I used to own a TyTN as well.....
Got a bit confused since we were working on enabling the GPS One part of the chip for the TyTN a while back. Thought that this was all part of a single integral QualComm chip.
Still, raw Mhz is the same anyways....
samsat said:
I have upgraded from the Tytn to the Tytn II.
With the faster processor I really expected much faster response bt this does not seem to be the case.
Sometimes you tap the X in the top right hand corner and you sit and wait while it decides to exit the application.
Touch the top right hand icon to see running apps, cick stop all, allthe apps clear from the list but the window still stays open forever almost as if its hung.
Try and answer a call and there is an obvious delay between touching the answer button and the call actually being answered.
I have a no name brand 1GB micro SD card in the Tytn II.
This poor performance seems intermittent.
Any clues?
The phone is running ROM 1.56.05.5 Radio 1.27.12.11
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What other/software/utilities do you have installed? I'd definitely agree that you try a few other cooked ROMs till you find one that "flies" for you...
Nothing else installed, just got the phone yesterday.
Which cooked ROMs are the most stable and are there any special precautions to prevent bricking the phone?
I have a STOCK HTC TyTn and a STOCK HTC TyTnII in front of me.
The TyTynII out performs the basic TyTn in all repects. BT works PERFECT and (one thing people forget!) Media player works in standby mode as with the Wizard.
Remember, 'Kaiser' is the generic term for the model.
Many variants are out there and the 'Tilt' seems to be a very cut-down version with a poor ROM and loads of carrier bloatware. You also have to remember that because of the Broadcomm v Qualcomm lawsuit in the US(which is STILL ongoing) certain aspects of these models have been disabled to apease the lawyers!
Many soapbox activists on this forum do not understand whats really going on in the US. Blame your own legal system for the phones faults!
I can't complain about my Tytn II performance (ok the video thing, but mentioned in 100 other threads). I have no problems to close Apps and accept phone calls, ok on the phonecalls it depends if the phone was in sleep before the call, then it has 1-2 seconds to get completly rdy, but that's not a big deal.
Well I also think that the Qualcom lawsuit had/has a big influence on the preformance of the actual firmware... but i expect some improvements in the future.
How does one go about selecting a rom, then installing?
How do I keep my current info,settings and applications?
Is it similar to a hard reset, where I would simply restore a previous backup and carry on?
thanks!
Farsquidge said:
You also have to remember that because of the Broadcomm v Qualcomm lawsuit in the US(which is STILL ongoing) certain aspects of these models have been disabled to apease the lawyers!
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You seem to have inside information about this. Would you know exactly what has been disabled?
You also mentioned that your TyTN II outperforms the TyTN in all aspects. Does this include 3D and video acceleration? I.e. have you tried 3D games and would say that these play much faster on the TyTN II? And how about video? Can you play video files without experiencing problems with audio/video sync (which I see on my TyTN II but didn't see on the JASJAM) and poor performance when playing videos with larger frames than 320x240? And how about poor quality drivers for sound that affect the overall performance of the device? This forced me to disable audio feedback on screen taps as the sound would make the device more sluggish to respond to taps.
. . .
Isn't it ironic that HTC chose the Qualcomm chip even though the Samsung processor was fully supported by drivers and provided all features required by the TyTN II, and despite Qualcomm's legal problems and the threats from the US government of stopping the sale of all Qualcomm-based devices in the US, and after having made this choice it's not even properly supported?!
Doesn't this make you think that there were some hanky-panky going on backstage? What I am implying here is that Qualcomm bribed HTC management to choose their chip.
CorruptedSanity said:
How does one go about selecting a rom, then installing?
How do I keep my current info,settings and applications?
Is it similar to a hard reset, where I would simply restore a previous backup and carry on?
thanks!
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Read the Wiki. Think of it as installing a new OS on your computer. It will wipe everything out. I wouldn't recommend restoring backups between different ROM versions. It would be like restoring a full backup from WinXP w/no SP to a machine that had SP2.
Hey guys,
This is really disturbing me. I ordered my Kaiser from a company in Hong Kong because the one in USA was a stripped down version. It had some liquid damage so I sent it for repair. The phone just came back in the mail and the camera is very sluggish. When I move the camera around, the picture becomes blurry. When I stop moving it, the picture comes back to normal after a second or so.
The HTC guys said they replaced the main board. I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or if the ROM they installed on it is causing this to happen. I did notice that the radio ROM is older than what it had installed initially ( it was 1.83 now its 1.65).
Please advice what I should do to correct this problem.
Thanks in advance
Yeah it would be a good idea to try a new radio, as they have been proven to be related to the camera.(why a radio would have anything to do with camera hardware i dont know) Also there are newer htc cameraversions out which will give you a little speed boost. dont expect much, everyone's kaiser has a sluggish camera.Some say it is due to a lack of video drivers but we wont really know until(?) the drivers come out. the camera is actually pretty damn good as far as quality, but the screen responsiveness sucks mah bawls. For me, it was a matter of getting used to the laggyness, and its bearable. somebody please release some drivers dammit! hope this helped. peace.
Thanks for the reply.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v5NM1aD9VrY In that video, you can see how responsive the screen is when the guy moves the camera to take the picture of a Treo. My phone's camera was as responsive as that. Now, it behaves like a camera of a normal flip phone where the picture gets blurry when you move the camera.
I will try upgrading the radio ROM and the regular ROM and see if that will work.
EDIT: They installed WM6.1 but I had WM6 when I send it for repair. Could that be the reason for sluggishness? Can anyone confirm if the camera gets sluggish when you install WM6.1 on kaiser?
Hi. I have had Xperia Z phones in the past and although i was generally satisfied there were a few disappointments. I wanted to inquire and discuss about the Android Lollipop update for the Z3 Compact:
1. Camera
Based on my own experience (with the Z1 & Z2) the camera bootup is still slower than expected, the shutter button is slower than expected and the picture quality is cooler, somewhat unnatural and an overexposed flash when night shots. This experience is equal to the reviews i have read. Has this been addressed & improved?
2. Speakers
I underatand the waterproofing would somehow make the speakers muffled and it has always been the case with Z phones. Has the sound somewhat improved with the Lollipop update?
3. Music/Walkman
Has there been improvements on the music player such as Flac support, gapless playback and general sound enhancements?
4. Does the Z3 compact support HD voice? And are there any improvements on incoming call quality?
5. Is there a "Cancel All" button on the multitaking pane?
6. Any improvements on battery life?
7. Is there an option to auto set installing of apps & files on the SD card?
8. Any improvments on the initail bootup times? My Z2 lasts 20 seconds. The iPhone lasts less than 10 seconds with an inferior specs.
9. Did the Lollipop update brought back the full Silent mode? (similar to what Samsung did to the S5)
I am not into rooting or ROMs. I don't depend too much on benchmarks either although figures does help. And you can't help but compare to the compettition which is the iPhone 6 and i am curious as to what Sony has come up with taking in complaints & suggestions and translating those into updates. I have not found my answer when i rung Sony Mobile UK. The UK Sony Mobile website also does not provide answers instead very vauge/general information hence i'm curious to discuss and get users' opinion on my query.
Please advice. Thanks.
1-3. No idea / didn't put attention / didn't ever care to remember what was before. The camera quality doesn't seem any better than before, no visible improvement there.
4. No idea, and the call quality was good enough to begin with.
5. Yes, in the later small update.
6. At least as good for me, but the usual YMMV applies. I did go over settings and make sure everything was OK, forced update of Google Services, etc.
7. Not sure, didn't try. Probably the same pm setInstallLocation as before, not something in the menu.
8. Initial bootup isn't a phone's use case - you're not supposed to turn it off. If anything - with the switch to ART the boot time going to deteriorate rather than improve. Comparing it seems as useless as it can be - I have 10 year old Nokia that boots in 3 seconds, beats the crap out of iPhone with its 10 seconds and just about any Android ever, so what exactly does it say? You can boot bare Linux on the phone and it takes ~6 sec to complete, won't help much either. Boot time mostly depends on the OS, and I'm not aware of any efforts in Android to reduce it (unlike, say, Windows, in which it still is the main use case).
9. No, the same modes as any Lollipop - full silent is selected only through volume button. Some programs seem to be able to force it, but it's not a default setting.
Basically, and I'll make this short so I don't ramble, if this is a side/wifi phone where all I need it for is gaming and music, does upgrading bring anything that people 'cant live without', or is staying with an older version that has had more time to be customized a better option? I'm on Pie right now, but it's one of those things I really can't tell without setting aside time to test/experiment and focus, which I haven't ;p
GWARslave119 said:
Basically, and I'll make this short so I don't ramble, if this is a side/wifi phone where all I need it for is gaming and music, does upgrading bring anything that people 'cant live without', or is staying with an older version that has had more time to be customized a better option? I'm on Pie right now, but it's one of those things I really can't tell without setting aside time to test/experiment and focus, which I haven't ;p
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Compared to nougat, the custom rom status of Oreo and Pie is miles ahead and better.....yes, there are some bugs here and there but those are minors and won't hinder your day to day usage and not to mention that even some of those bugs are being fixed and will be ironed out in the next few months of update.....recently the camera issues has been rectified and by the next updates, the camera should work flawlessly without any crashes.....even GCAM is working perfectly on the rom.....try Pixel Experience if you want, updates normally come on a monthly basis and the latest camera build prop fix posted at Pg 60-62 fixes many camera crashes.....
The only bugs which are left are normally based on the rom and its sources and normally gets fixed in the next update
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Yes,4k recording still now doesn't work in footej camera or in Gcam, but if you really need 4k recording,use the Filmic Pro camera, it will allow you to record at 4k with variable frame rates.
In terms of performance,there are some internal improvements but for day to day scenario it is more than enough, in short you\ll be able to play PUBG at low/medium settings at 30 fps ......
What we really need is a kernel developer who can make some good custom kernels which will help in performance improvements and increase overall stability and feature array across the board....
So, in short the custom rom status is better than ever for le 2, right now ..... and this is coming from a guy who was there from the beginning when CodeWorkz was developing the nougat rom for the device....
Well then, I guess Ill stick with Pie :0 Guess Im just used to windows, to where when 10 came out, you were able to upgrade for free from 7, and dx12 was supposedly ready to be supported, so i figured, get the new directx, get to make my OS legal, why not?
Hardly any games use dx12 still to this day. Compatibility with games and such was funky, especially with scaling. Audio software like Audacity had, and still has, bugs which arent there for win7. Hardware certificates had issues for quite a while (esp Asus hardware) so i couldnt us3 my network card.
Ive prolly gone back and forth like 4 times, until i decided to just stick with 10. So i figured there might be similar issues with a phone that wasnt planned to be updated with a new os to run better with an older version.
Hope that made sense ha