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Hi there,
Sorry if this has been answered before...
...but when I take a Picture with my Diamond, it focuses, clicks, freezes... and then takes the picture. So the Fotos I'm getting are always about 1 Second after the "Click" Sound. This way it's pretty useless for taking "Snapshots"... and that's what I'd like to use the camera for in the first place...
It doesn't matter if it's dark or in bright daylight.
I tried about all camera-settings... same result.
I'm using the official 1.93 ROM (WWE) from HTC.
Thanks for any help about this.
you bought the wrong phone then because
thats just how it is in the diamond.
Lucky me bought the Phone not for the Camera.
But it should work better anyways...
Ok so I don't know how HTC can allow this type of thing to happen but the Kaiser is by far the worst phone I've used in terms of bugs.
The camera... oh the camera...
My secondary VGA camera takes a 5x clearer photo than the 3MP one.
The VGA camera has no lag or reduced fps in the viewer, yet the 3MP camera has horrible horrible lag when you press button and what seems like 3-5 fps.
This is all the same with the video...
Can somebody tell me what the ****?? Are you all having this problem also or is it just me?
Could it be my radio?
I'm using ROMeOS 4.21
Thanks... and HTC... eff you!
edit: forgot to mention I've tried editing the registry and changing the button to half press instead of full... nothing works.
I'm sorry, but this sort of thing has been discussed before.
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360001&highlight=Camera
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426101&highlight=Camera
And try searching for the Subject "Camera" in this Fourm. You'll find a few posts.
I am not going to spend another minute trolling on this issue.
Dave
Thanks Dave but I've really tried everything suggested in those thread already.
From changing the registry in HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\Captparam
to installing HTC Album and Camera (with no improvements).
Also I don't see how the first link you posted is relevant at all.
This is why I come to think it is either a screw up in my registry or my radio?
I think the camera in general is bad, I though the first link was a different thread, sorry.
If you search for Threads with the title camera in Kaiser General you will see the scale of how many people have complained about this camera. I am not happy with mine, but I also own a EOS400D, so it's not too bad
Dave
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
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Do a Hard Reset and / or try another ROM, if you really think there is something in the registry corrupt / wrong.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Do a Hard Reset and / or try another ROM, if you really think there is something in the registry corrupt / wrong.
Ta
Dave
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Might just do that, cheers.
deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera..
[blah blah blah]
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You have got to be kidding.... It's convenient to have a decent camera built into the phone. But your primary camera? Ugh.
deXtrous said:
lol I see fair enough... For me I was planning to use my phone camera as my primary camera.. I really just cannot believe the VGA camera can operate at a higher quality than the 3MP..
I honestly think there is a fault in my registry..
I'll say it again.. sometimes the camera works perfect and takes a picture instantly with no FPS lag in the viewer, but most of the time it will be extremely low FPS and after I press the shutter button it will lag for 3 seconds then capture a fuzzy ****ty image.
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Have you noticed that the camera takes faster pics in lit areas and slower the darker it gets? This topic is fairly redundant. Click my Vegas link and you can see what the camera does.
Ok, so you're getting a fuzzy image, that will be due to movement when pressing the button.
To improve this slightly use the 3 second timer, that way you can line it up, press the button and hold the camera steady to get a more stable picture.
No, its not a fix for the poor hardware, but it helps a little.
Try removing the transparent cover from the rear casing - or just take pics without the rear casing. Pic quality improves no end....
deXtrous said:
Ok so I don't know how HTC can allow this type of thing to happen but the Kaiser is by far the worst phone I've used in terms of bugs.
The camera... oh the camera...
My secondary VGA camera takes a 5x clearer photo than the 3MP one.
The VGA camera has no lag or reduced fps in the viewer, yet the 3MP camera has horrible horrible lag when you press button and what seems like 3-5 fps.
This is all the same with the video...
Can somebody tell me what the ****?? Are you all having this problem also or is it just me?
Could it be my radio?
I'm using ROMeOS 4.21
Thanks... and HTC... eff you!
edit: forgot to mention I've tried editing the registry and changing the button to half press instead of full... nothing works.
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This has been discussed many times before...The camera is only usable in daylight. Even artificial light makes it really slow (bulbs) Here's why whenever you use the camera in other conditions than the daylight it switches itself into "Night Mode" and because of the lack of optimized 2D drivers the nightmode is terribly slow. Now... there's a small workaround....turn on the camera...if it's slow...press the button on the side the one that switches the screen off..press it again after about 10 seconds and you should have satisfying amount of frames in the camera app. Basically this trick forces the camera to turn off the night mode at least for a while. The only drawback is the quality of the pictures...they are darker. So if you disable the night mode through the registry you will have the camera without any lags.
Good luck
You think the Kaiser is the worst phone ever because it takes bad pictures. Wow. I think it is the best phone ever with an ok camera. I didn't buy the phone because of the camera.
wmg76 said:
You think the Kaiser is the worst phone ever because it takes bad pictures. Wow. I think it is the best phone ever with an ok camera. I didn't buy the phone because of the camera.
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Not only the camera mate, and it's my personal opinion.
The phone itself is very buggy, crashes, not very responsive..
I thank got I found this forum or else my phone would be in the trash by now..
PS. Was your post even needed?
oh, oh, oh.
Please, deXtrous, a little humility. You joined last month and go around shouting at people already?
Perhaps your phone bugging out and crashing is a result of multiple registry edits, application installs, radio/spl/rom incompatibility etc. Not necessarily of putrid quality of the phone itself. Look around this forum: there are many MANY people who are either happy with their Kaisers, or have only minor gripes. This should mean that the phone is not inherently bad, just that - maybe- it is less than perfect... but then, what IS perfect?
Ever since I switched to ROMeOS (easily half a year) I haven't had a single hang-up or bug-out. Granted, I tend to use a tried-and-tested set of applications, but hey, there are about 40-50 of them! And my Kaiser still works nice and fast..... sans the camera which still sucks... but hey, it's just an effing camera. Useful in a phone but FAR from key.
deXtrous said:
Not only the camera mate, and it's my personal opinion.
The phone itself is very buggy, crashes, not very responsive..
I thank got I found this forum or else my phone would be in the trash by now..
PS. Was your post even needed?
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You're asking a guy who's defending a kaiser, in a kaiser forum, after you rubbish the kaiser, if he needed to post. I think you should chill for a bit..
OK, enough. No need to start laying into each other.
Can a Mod close this thread? Nothing constructive can come from this.
Ta
Dave
Ha... Sorry I find this kind of funny..
It's just a phone guys, no need to take offense to anything I say about a silly phone..
It's my personal experiences with the phone. Not everyone can be happy with the product they buy but why should the unhappy ones be shunned off by their counterparts for simply voicing their opinions?
Everyone has an opinion and view on things, no need to be offended of my opinion that the kaiser is a piece of crap with **** battery life, **** camera, flimsy buttons and crap hardware (IME).
anyway,
The camera was like this even prior to any ROM swapping or registry editing, which is why I thought a new ROM might help but apparently not.
Maybe you have a bad phone, I know I don't think mine is buggy and non reponsive. Also nothing I have on mine seems to be flimsy..
Bad phone maybe?
Hi guys... i'm new in this forum and i'm a brazilian, so sorry for my bad english
I've got my tytn some weeks ago, but i have a little problem... When I take any photos with the back camera (the 3.0mp one), it always ends up VERY blurred. I've noted that before pressing half-camera button, the camera image is nice, but when i take the photo or press half button, the camera image begins to blur. So, i think this is some problem with the auto-focus feature.
A curious note is that when i take/focus photos from very close (aprox 2-5cm from the camera), doesn't show any blur at all... but more far than that it gets completely blurred. And before doing any focusing, the camera picture isn't blurred at all.
The front camera photos don't get blurred because they haven't got any auto-focus, so the pics are shot instantenously.
Anybody has any idea of how fix that blur in the back camera? or at least how to deactivate the auto-focus so i can take some pic from distance?
Oh yes, i already cleaned the lens from inside and outside.
Thank everybody for the patience, and sorry for the bad english
try taking the battery cover off and take the photo and see how it comes off, they use cheap plastic on the camera cover and it gets a film of somesort on it and causes the pics to come out blurry
neonspeed1995 said:
try taking the battery cover off and take the photo and see how it comes off, they use cheap plastic on the camera cover and it gets a film of somesort on it and causes the pics to come out blurry
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Yeah, i've tried that, but the photo still come blurred without the battery cover.
If you guys want, i can take some photos and upload them so you guys can see the blurred photos.
What ROM, or camera build are you using.
KD8DNS said:
What ROM, or camera build are you using.
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I use an original WM 6.1 rom, build 3.28.405.0 WWE from date 05/02/08
My radio is version 1.65.17.56
Just a note, this rom was flashed, my original rom was a 6.0 one with radio version 1.26.xx and rom build 1.7xxx from 2007 (i can't remember)
but even with the out of the box rom, the camera wasn't right, I think (I haven't used the camera until a little time ago)
BAD HTC autofocus
I have exactly the same problem with my Polaris Htc!! Please find a solution!!!I tried everything to resolve it but nothing worked. SOme people say it is a hardware problem, but i hope it is a software problem...
Please help me!!!
Thanks for all
Fishos
try updating your camera app to this one
Nadavi's Camera
make sure u install HTC album first or else the Camera app will show a black screen while taking pics.
Also make sure your environment is well light and hold the camera still while takings pics, HTC didnt exactly make the best camera for this phone.
i had the exact same problem with my htc kaiser.
after 1 1/2 year, i decided to send it back to t-mobile to have it replaced due to a hardware warranty issue. the knew about the problem. there seems to be something wrong with the lense/sensor the auto-fokus uses. dunno.
about 2 days later i got my replacement tilt (refurbished one), reflashed to a anryl wm6.5 rom i used before and now the picture are way better
so you might try to get yours replaced.
The point is: your autofocus does not keep its parameters while the image is shot. Try hard resetting Kaiser, then install Nadavi's patch mentioned above, add latest HTC Camera and welcome!
P.S. If you do really need a cam in your Kaiser, switch to Android. Some builds support the camera, but it is... manual. I mean, you focus with a scroller wheel: far from perfect, but in some 50 pics taken you'll be into it quite nicely.
set the camera button to take the picture immediately and not full press
So which version of Camera is best and includes the ability Auto Focus, i know there is Low FPS problems and thats a hardware thing, but i just want to know the best version of camera available, Thanks
I will respond since no one else seems interested...
Ironically, I am using the default camera app right now (4.x I believe). I tried Nadavi's 5.0.4 for several months, and it seemed faster than 4.x, but I eventually realized that auto-focus was really crippled in that version as well (half-press of the button to focus, but full press causes a re-focus before the picture is taken, which always causes me to lose the shot).
Long story short, 4.x doesn't seem to have the problem, so I decided to stick with it for now. Plus it takes pictures at a decent speed when the lighting is adequate.
Short answer... you cannot expect a Hyundai to win a Nascar race. Sure it will drive around the track, and if you want to do 500 laps with it, no problem, but it ain't ever gonna be the right tool you need to win.
The camera on this phone sucks, it has serious limitations. If you want to take a picture of a significant event, bring a stand alone camera.
I agree with the previous poster, the default camera software is about as good as you can do.
I am with you about the half press and full press problem , but i get over it by making the option of taking the photo is press half press only and it work so well.. its auto focus then take a pic with no blur at all.. i am using this ver attached. so well in TYTN II .
also now i can take photos using the front camera with it .
jesta192 said:
I will respond since no one else seems interested...
Ironically, I am using the default camera app right now (4.x I believe). I tried Nadavi's 5.0.4 for several months, and it seemed faster than 4.x, but I eventually realized that auto-focus was really crippled in that version as well (half-press of the button to focus, but full press causes a re-focus before the picture is taken, which always causes me to lose the shot).
Long story short, 4.x doesn't seem to have the problem, so I decided to stick with it for now. Plus it takes pictures at a decent speed when the lighting is adequate.
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Press the windows button once. It's better!
giannis.epp said:
Press the windows button once. It's better!
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But not much better
boufa said:
Short answer... you cannot expect a Hyundai to win a Nascar race. Sure it will drive around the track, and if you want to do 500 laps with it, no problem, but it ain't ever gonna be the right tool you need to win.
The camera on this phone sucks, it has serious limitations. If you want to take a picture of a significant event, bring a stand alone camera.
I agree with the previous poster, the default camera software is about as good as you can do.
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I quite agree, but I need to mention that the camera on EVERY phone sucks. If you're buying a phone because of the camera, that's waste of money. You can't expect this tiny bit of lens (more than ten times smaller than the ones used in real cameras and of dubious quality) to produce anything but lousy images. The problem is not with the software, but with the CCD and the lens.
I have this phone for about 6 months and I haven't taken a single picture with it - I prefer my Pentax
hello guys..well i need some help here please..
i got a problem with my tytn 11.the camera is bugging after i flash with some xda roms.my problem is i cant use the 2nd camera.it seem the icon to change from main camera to 2nd camera suddenly disappear.so i cant use the front camera to snap pic and make v.call..sadly i doesnt know my stock roms.but i already flash my phone with some xda stock roms but it still the same.the front camera doesnt work..somebody please help mee
thank u man for you'r help
Hello,
I own a MDA Vario III, And when I preview what I want to put on a photo, it really lags(like 3 fps). Is there something what would fix it? I have been searching whole internet and found a topic about some rumored Graphic's driver. and a update from HTC, But couldn't find it. Sorry if I didn't saw something. Please give me a link to it.
BTW: sometimes it doesn't lag, and sometimes it does :S
I really apreciate this =]
-Armazia
Hey Armazia, the camera lags only when under low light conditions, the FPS is very bad at this point cos of the lighting conditions, however under better conditions the FPS dramatically increases because of better lighting conditions. There isnt a permanent fix to this because the actual camera component is causing it, drivers and things wnt work, htc jus put a crappy camera in, you cant really do much about that. Saying that i know of atleast one way to get better FPS while under low light.
1. On the phone activate the camera
2. Now on the phone activate the camera
3. Cover the lens with ure hands.
4.while keeping the lens covered put the phone into sleep mode(by pressing the power button on the top right handside of the phone.
5. Make sure you dont have S2U2 slider thingy intalled and running.
6. Now press the power button again to wake the phone up making sure you are still covering the lens with your palm.
7. Now remove your palm, there should be better FPS, you might have to do it until you can actually get it to work, you have to this a few times to get used to it.
Hope That Help!
Sorry double posted
sofir786 said:
Hey Armazia, the camera lags only when under low light conditions, the FPS is very bad at this point cos of the lighting conditions, however under better conditions the FPS dramatically increases because of better lighting conditions. There isnt a permanent fix to this because the actual camera component is causing it, drivers and things wnt work, htc jus put a crappy camera in, you cant really do much about that. Saying that i know of atleast one way to get better FPS while under low light.
1. On the phone activate the camera
2. Now on the phone activate the camera
3. Cover the lens with ure hands.
4.while keeping the lens covered put the phone into sleep mode(by pressing the power button on the top right handside of the phone.
5. Make sure you dont have S2U2 slider thingy intalled and running.
6. Now press the power button again to wake the phone up making sure you are still covering the lens with your palm.
7. Now remove your palm, there should be better FPS, you might have to do it until you can actually get it to work, you have to this a few times to get used to it.
Hope That Help!
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I knew that fix yes, But when I press power button while in camera, and then power on. The camera closes and im on the today screen again. viewing memory doesn't show camera. So my phone closes the program after power off.
Hmm thats weird, there must be a setting somewhere on the phone which can disable that. I use that mothod on my HTC TyTN II and it works most of the time, what rom are you running?
Im running rom version 1.56.144.4. Should I update? I dont really want to, because I dont wanna screw up my phone
Ive had my kaiser for a few weeks now and i knew abt this site before from my old phone(HTC TyTN), so ive used and flashed quite a few roms now and it hasnt had any negative effects on the phone from the custom roms, as long as u read the guides in the stickies everything should be fine. so yeah in my opinion id upgrade it. but its up2 u nyways.
sofir786 said:
Ive had my kaiser for a few weeks now and i knew abt this site before from my old phone(HTC TyTN), so ive used and flashed quite a few roms now and it hasnt had any negative effects on the phone from the custom roms, as long as u read the guides in the stickies everything should be fine. so yeah in my opinion id upgrade it. but its up2 u nyways.
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Is that Titanium Ultimate 23049 TPCElite Anything? Could you send me a link to the topic? Many thankies for you =]
PS: Will this one Work? It says AT&T Tilt, I suppose thats the Vario III. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421007
hey there, the rom im using is pretty good, its fast and a lot more finger freindly cos its using a new build of windows mobile 6.5 professional.heres some links
Read this really before doing anything
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
any rom in the kaiser rom development thread should work, theres quite a few really so its up2 u which u like the feel and look of.
Heres the link to the rom im using, its bin updated recently.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519715
Thanks for the links. I will take a look at it when I have some time I have already been trying to flash HardSPL.. Worked fine
Armazia said:
Thanks for the links. I will take a look at it when I have some time I have already been trying to flash HardSPL.. Worked fine
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I have the rom working now im now testing the best radio, and then im done thank you very much for your help!(and yes, when I turn power off and onwith camera like you said, it works .