can anyone with a european xperia x2 confirm what 3g bands it has.
i keep on reading conflicting theories.
either its UMTS 900/1900/2100 MHz or UMTS 850/900/2100 MHz.
i think they are already being sold in the netherlands.
which one is it?
thanks
Any european variant of a SE handset always has 3G bands:
a) 900/2100MHz
or
b) 900/1900/2100MHz
but i saw some websites it says that it has 850mhz 3g plus i need to know if it has the 1900mhz because in manhattan where i live it works on 1900mhz 3g.
The XPERIA X2 white paper says
a) X2 (European) has 900/1900/2100MHz 3G bands
b) X2a has 850MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz 3G bands
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/util/SearchCMS.do?criteria=xperia+x2&search=go
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I purchased a jailbroken AT&T Tilt 2 online but Im using T Mobile service and I was told that I wouldn't be able to access the T Mobile 3g Network with this device. Could someone verify that this true or if not can someone give me some tips on how to set it up on my device.
Its true, because I have a Tilt 2 unlocked to T-Mobile as well. Is there a way to get 3G speeds, I don't know. But honestly, I've never really noticed a difference. But then again, I do stay away from data heavy sites like Youtube and whatnot.
Hmm, interesting question. The main issue is whether the phone has the right bands to connect to the 3G network in question. Its a hardware issue, and either the phone has the right bands built into the chipset or it doesn't. There is no way to change this with software or by changing settings.
T-Mob uses 1700 and 2100 MHz bands, where ATT uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands. HOWEVER, the ATT branded Tilt 2 also has the 2100 MHz band for international use. If your T-Mob service area is on the 2100 MHz bands, its possible (if you area is on 1700 MHz, its not going to work no matter what). In theory, it SHOULD work. I've made many trips to Japan, which uses 2100 MHZ for both voice and data, and my Tilt 2 (and old Tilt before it) has always worked flawlessly on their networks.
But whether it really works or not, I have no idea. Searching around the net yields some posts on other forums asking the same exact question, with conflicting answers (perhaps somebody on here can enlighten?). My gut says, its either its going to work or its not, it shouldn't take any additional setup. Have you tried it yet?
But in short, it was a mistake to buy the ATT branded version. You should have bought the T-Mob branded Touch Pro 2.
Oh, and wrong subforum, BTW. This has nothing to do with ROM development. This should be in the Touch Pro 2, Tilt 2 General forum. But don't cross post there, the mods will probably move this thread over there for you.
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T-Mob uses 1700 and 2100 MHz bands, where ATT uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands. HOWEVER, the ATT branded Tilt 2 also has the 2100 MHz band for international use. If your T-Mob service area is on the 2100 MHz bands, its possible (if you area is on 1700 MHz, its not going to work no matter what). In theory, it SHOULD work. I've made many trips to Japan, which uses 2100 MHZ for both voice and data, and my Tilt 2 (and old Tilt before it) has always worked flawlessly on their networks.
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The 2100 MHz band you're referring to is different on both companies' devices. For T-Mobile, 2100MHz is the upload frequency. The worldphone AT&T 2100MHz band is a download frequency. 3G requires 2 frequencies to operate in that manner.
The 2100MHz frequency is accompanied by the 1900MHz frequency for uploads. The AT&T Tilt2 has this frequency set to allow both.
As for Japan, I didn't know they were on the 2100MHz band. I've only every seen a couple of companies on 850, 1500, or 1700 MHz. Where were you that you used 2100MHz or which company? I just like to keep up on where the bands are useful when I make trips to Asia.
Ahh, that's right, I think I did read somewhere, that the 1700/2100 MHz bands are used by T-Mob as download/upload. Not like ATT, where which of the 850,1900 MHz band is used for 3G depends on the geographic location/market.
That means the OP is SOL on getting 3G on the Tilt2, right? He would need BOTH the 1700 and 2100 MHz bands on his phone?
Japan uses 2100 MHz exclusively, standardized nationwide, as far as I know. Same with South Korea (although ATT lists that one carrier in S. Korea also uses CDMA 1800, not sure what the deal with that is).
If the 2100 MHz band on the ATT Tilt 2 is just for download, wouldn't this mean that my phone would not be able to connect to the data network in Japan?
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Ahh, that's right, I think I did read somewhere, that the 1700/2100 MHz bands are used by T-Mob as download/upload. Not like ATT, where which of the 850,1900 MHz band is used for 3G depends on the geographic location/market.
That means the OP is SOL on getting 3G on the Tilt2, right? He would need BOTH the 1700 and 2100 MHz bands on his phone?
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Exactly right. It's a hardware problem, not software as some people think. I seem to answer this question at least once a week here. lol The radio chip is different for each model of the Rhodium. That's one of the differences between the several versions.
Japan uses 2100 MHz exclusively, standardized nationwide, as far as I know. Same with South Korea (although ATT lists that one carrier in S. Korea also uses CDMA 1800, not sure what the deal with that is).
If the 2100 MHz band on the ATT Tilt 2 is just for download, wouldn't this mean that my phone would not be able to connect to the data network in Japan?
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It depends on what the network is set up as. 3G worldwide requires two bands to operate because of the bandwidth. GPRS and EDGE only require one. If this 2100 MHz frequency is one of the later, then it will work just fine. If this is a 3G band, then it is VERY likely to be paired with the 1900MHz frequency range. That's on GSM, anyway. I'm not 100% sure what CDMA frequencies are their.
I've just bought a AT&T HD7S off ebay from a US seller and I'm in the UK. It's not until just now that I considered how it might perform in the UK. I see that the AT&T HD7S lists HSDPA: 850/1900 MHz as its 3g frequencies, while the UK HD7 lists HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz. Does this mean I won't be able to get 3g signal on UK networks? Does anybody have experience using a AT&T HD7S in the UK?
The HTC Help & How To page lists the following:
What bands does my device support?
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSDPA/UMTS: 850/1900/1700(AWS)/1900/2100 MHz
But the Tech Specs page shows this:
UMTS: 1900/850
GSM/GPRS/AT&T: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So I wonder if the phone actually supports 2100 MHz
And if so, since O2 HSDPA/3G in the UK runs on 900/2100 does this mean that the phone will still get 3G on 2100 MHz, but won't benefit from the 900 MHz band which enables coverage in harder to reach locations.
Secondly, should I only flash AT&T Radios on to this phone or can I flash the Europe modem found here forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_HD7/Radios ? Might doing so enable the 2100 MHz band which isn't used by AT&T ?
farooknaji said:
I've just bought a AT&T HD7S off ebay from a US seller and I'm in the UK. It's not until just now that I considered how it might perform in the UK. I see that the AT&T HD7S lists HSDPA: 850/1900 MHz as its 3g frequencies, while the UK HD7 lists HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz. Does this mean I won't be able to get 3g signal on UK networks? Does anybody have experience using a AT&T HD7S in the UK?
The HTC Help & How To page lists the following:
What bands does my device support?
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSDPA/UMTS: 850/1900/1700(AWS)/1900/2100 MHz
But the Tech Specs page shows this:
UMTS: 1900/850
GSM/GPRS/AT&T: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So I wonder if the phone actually supports 2100 MHz
And if so, since O2 HSDPA/3G in the UK runs on 900/2100 does this mean that the phone will still get 3G on 2100 MHz, but won't benefit from the 900 MHz band which enables coverage in harder to reach locations.
Secondly, should I only flash AT&T Radios on to this phone or can I flash the Europe modem found here forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_HD7/Radios ? Might doing so enable the 2100 MHz band which isn't used by AT&T ?
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I got mine off ebay too (HD7S AT&T), did u manage to get the 3G working ? Please help me. Have you flashed the Euro radio ?
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UMTS: 1900/850
GSM/GPRS/AT&T: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
These are the correct specs.... because there's no 2100MHz band for GSM, the 2100MHz is used by CDMA networks.
Can you tell me the differences with the Trill and the p925G and p925H. I live in NZ and would like to purchase a phone that is compabiblywith the XT network from my understanding I should be able to purchase a At&T P925 phone but unsure.
The Bands I'm after are 3G (I think this is also known as UMTS) 850 & 2100Mhz, does the At&T phone cover this, ie if I purchase any AT7T p925 of Ebay it will have these freq.
The main reason I didn't go for the p920 is that is doesn't have the 850.
The AT&T branded thrill uses the following...
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 1900 MHz
Ta, do they have 2100?
It does. All the smartphones I got from AT&T have the 2100mhz
http://www.thrillbylg.com/thrill_by_lg_specs.pdf scroll to the bottom for HSPA+ band.
Hi all
I bought the Xperia Z C6603 in UK will it get 3g or 4g or let in NY, USA?
i been reading in the blogs that it wont support you will only get GPRS or EDGE based on this t-mobile thread http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/40671?start=0&tstart=0
but can the Devs do something to make it work on 3g/4g with current hardware in the phone? or should I return and buy the phone when it comes in the USA?
all help is appreciated
I'm not sure about 3g, but I've heard that the 4g bands that the phone uses are different then being used in the States. So that won't work.
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app
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Hi all
I bought the Xperia Z C6603 in UK will it get 3g or 4g or let in NY, USA?
i been reading in the blogs that it wont support you will only get GPRS or EDGE based on this t-mobile thread http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/40671?start=0&tstart=0
but can the Devs do something to make it work on 3g/4g with current hardware in the phone? or should I return and buy the phone when it comes in the USA?
all help is appreciated
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As I posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231009&page=2
The reason is, according to T mobile
Depending on where a tower is at in the 4G life cycle, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps – 42 Mbps.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network operates on the same band as our 3G network, Band IV, which uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies to transmit voice and data services. The 1700 MHz frequency sends information to cell sites and the 2100 MHz frequency receives information.
As with our 3G network, both 1700 MHz frequency and 2100 MHz frequency are required for a device to function. If a device only has one of these frequencies, it cannot use T-Mobile’s 3G and 4G networks.
T-Mobile is switching some 1900 MHz frequency from EDGE to HSPA+. This will allow devices that work on 1900 MHz, such as AT&T devices, to use our 4G network.
and yes,the Xperia z uses UMTS HSPA+ Bands 1, 3, 5, 8 which are
1 for 2100, 3 for 1800, 5 for 850 and 8 for 900
the HSDPA in T mobile are in the bands 1700 and 2100, just like the 3G, and the Xperia Z model c6603 uses bands 850/900/1700 only!!! the C6602 model uses the same bands plus /1900/2100 so, if you miss one band in T mobile you will never have the HSDPA speed, no matter the firmware,because is hardware
This info is according to Sony Official Page www.sonymobile.com, so as you can see you are missing one band, the 1700
Resuming, is hardware issue, and I dont think that the developers will be able to get 4G speeds or even HSDPA if the chip required is missing iin the c6603
c6602 is the only choice
Im currently have c6602 on tmobile and I can get h+ speed on it I did order c6603 and only get EDGE. You will have to set APN manually se the phone canlog into the network. Or u will have to get ZL since I heard that Xperia Z wont be distributed through any US carriers.
Hello! I want to buy a HTC One from ebay and use it in Europe. Until now, when I bought from US, I chose either unlocked or from AT&T. Now, I'm not sure if there are any differences between US HTC One models. So, can anybody tell me if the One from Sprint would work in Europe? Ok. I've found out that the 2G bands would work after unlocking, but what about 3G and 4G? Thanks!
Check with your carrier and then compare the specs between the US and EU Ones to see which bands match up. I know in my case that Three UK would work for 3G using a DE One as Three use the 2100MHz band
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Check with your carrier and then compare the specs between the US and EU Ones to see which bands match up. I know in my case that Three UK would work for 3G using a DE One as Three use the 2100MHz band
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Phonearena shows that 2G and 3G are the same for all models, but for 4G it shows this:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 1800 / 2600
LTE 1900 - for Sprint
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
What does this mean? Does this mean that ALL HTC One phones have LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600? Why the next line says only LTE 1800 / 2600? Also, for example Sprint have LTE 1900, but also the other ones from above? I hope you can tell me this. Thank you!
PS: I need 800/900/1800/2600.
What SIM card are you putting going to use, e.g. from what carrier (Vodafone??)? Then compare their 2/3/4G bands and then check the specs for the different Ones available and see which is best for you (which is what I said before - it's not hard to understand)
EddyOS said:
What SIM card are you putting going to use, e.g. from what carrier (Vodafone??)? Then compare their 2/3/4G bands and then check the specs for the different Ones available and see which is best for you (which is what I said before - it's not hard to understand)
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Maybe my english was not so good, but I'm not so stupid as you think. I know that I must compare their bands, but I don't know what are the specs for those phones. This is the reason why I wrote what gsmarena says about this phone. I think you didn't really read my previous post. I didn't find anywhere what are the bands for those models. I cannot explain better than in previous post.
OK, this is taken from HTCs website:
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the EU handset, 801n (m7_ul)
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the Asian handset, 801s (m7_ul) (probably)
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps <--- This is the North American GSM handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv)
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the T- Mobile handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv)
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps <--- This is the AT&T handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv))
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps <--- This is the Sprint handset, 801c (m7_wls)
So, you check what 3G band you network uses and see which phones support it
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Hello! I want to buy a HTC One from ebay and use it in Europe. Until now, when I bought from US, I chose either unlocked or from AT&T. Now, I'm not sure if there are any differences between US HTC One models. So, can anybody tell me if the One from Sprint would work in Europe? Ok. I've found out that the 2G bands would work after unlocking, but what about 3G and 4G? Thanks!
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Helloknow of any one rom for htc sprint m7 801c work with all these bands 2G Network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100
4G Network LTE 800/1800/2600
LTE 1800/2600 just bought one and I'm crazy for making it work in Spain. thank you very much.
jjfmsn said:
Helloknow of any one rom for htc sprint m7 801c work with all these bands 2G Network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100
4G Network LTE 800/1800/2600
LTE 1800/2600 just bought one and I'm crazy for making it work in Spain. thank you very much.
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Here is a datasheet on the Sprint HTC One. The operating bands are not rom dependent, it is the built in radio hardware. Check the datasheet if the bands you need are supported then it will work with any rom.