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Why did it suddenly disappear from all the ROMs?
Even Rota's has only photo and music rotation, AFAIK
Landscape on LEO manila 2.5 is not fully implemented by HTC, the cooks are unable to fix that. Only the photo and music tab supports it at the moment.
If you need landscape, there's a CAB for landscape SMS in Leo or go for a manila 2.1.
I'm sorry, but how many times have people been over this? HTC didn't implement landscape mode into Manila 2.5, except for Music and Photos tab. And even then, it ONLY works with phones that have a G-Sensor, so not the X1.
madindehead said:
I'm sorry, but how many times have people been over this? HTC didn't implement landscape mode into Manila 2.5, except for Music and Photos tab. And even then, it ONLY works with phones that have a G-Sensor, so not the X1.
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So it's an issue that came with the 2.5? I know I'm looking dumb but I want to fully understand this and I suppose there are others like me that are confused.
It was in 2.1 but not in 2.5? We should wait for HTC to do that?
cykalu said:
Landscape on LEO manila 2.5 is not fully implemented by HTC, the cooks are unable to fix that. Only the photo and music tab supports it at the moment.
If you need landscape, there's a CAB for landscape SMS in Leo or go for a manila 2.1.
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As for G-Sensor, G-Spot should cover that but there still remain all the other tabs.
In the end, is patience the answer of my problems?
HTC ONLY does Manilla rotation for its keyboarded devices.... so until there is a release of Manilla for a Leo Pro, they'll be no oem rotation in the latest Leo builds of Manilla.
IMO, just another reason to ditch inefficient Manilla for either PointUI, or SPB
Ersill said:
So it's an issue that came with the 2.5? I know I'm looking dumb but I want to fully understand this and I suppose there are others like me that are confused.
It was in 2.1 but not in 2.5? We should wait for HTC to do that?
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It's not an issue. It simply isn't supported. There isn't any need for it yet, as the HTC HD2 (Leo) doesn't have a slide out keyboard. So there is no need for a landscape home screen really. There is landscape support on the music and photo tabs, as some people may like to browse their photos and music that way.
When/if HTC decide to put Manila 2.5 on a Pro device with a keyboard, then we might see landscape mode for the other tabs. As of yet, there is nothing, and there will be nothing until HTC make it so.
It is not a bug, it is not an issue. HTC didn't make it yet, as the HD2 doesn't need it.
the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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Tell me about getting confused, there are several roms with 2.1 manila that has full support on landscape, if it didnt have, then the cook hsa done a error (unlikely) or its disabled by the cook (rather unlikely too)
But a bugfree rom will only be a reality in your dreams im afraid, cause there is no such thing. Not from us, or HTC nor SE..
I have not tested other chefs roms in here with manila 2.1, but mine sure do have landscape
ashkan_mc said:
the interesting point is that I still can not find a ROM with manila 2.1 which has no bug .... because it's very important for me to be able to rotate the screen in manila ....
energy ROM has some bug with sms botton ... I've got really confused ....
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Which ROM did you try?
I´ve had at least 3 which are stable - and if there is something you might perceive as a bug, it is often related to another application and/or setting I did or had to do myself.
There are quite a few Manila 2.1 based ROM´s today which you can try, with WinMo 6.1 or even 6.5 "underneath".
BTW, the worst ROM I ever had was the stock ROM. Shame on SE.
itje said:
Tell me about getting confused, there are several roms with 2.1 manila that has full support on landscape, if it didnt have, then the cook hsa done a error (unlikely) or its disabled by the cook (rather unlikely too)
But a bugfree rom will only be a reality in your dreams im afraid, cause there is no such thing. Not from us, or HTC nor SE..
I have not tested other chefs roms in here with manila 2.1, but mine sure do have landscape
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thanks for your answer ... yes I just found several ROMs with manila 2.1 and there is no problem with rotation ... but for example one of them use a lot of RAM (60%) , one of them has some problem with sms ...
for this reason I overlook manila 2.5 ... and I think energy ROM up to now is the best choice ...
tictac0566 said:
Which ROM did you try?
I´ve had at least 3 which are stable - and if there is something you might perceive as a bug, it is often related to another application and/or setting I did or had to do myself.
There are quite a few Manila 2.1 based ROM´s today which you can try, with WinMo 6.1 or even 6.5 "underneath".
BTW, the worst ROM I ever had was the stock ROM. Shame on SE.
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thanks dude ... just could you plz introduce me these 3 ROMs ? right now I install energy ROM (21 Oct version) and I think it is the best ... although it doesn't have delivery choice ...
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
That's a good question. I don't know if a total stock ROM exist with 6.5.1/3 and Manila 2.5.
Give it a try
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So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Can I also back this question, that is exactly what I am looking for.
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
The best ROM ! Stable for daily use...
As my try outs, and i have tried most of the ROMs here...
You "must" try this BEST ARK AF_Rhodium ROM.
It is the best stable daily use that i am using for couple days.
The ROM kink to forum origin...
Enjoy your Rhodium Phone!
BeEazy10 said:
Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
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Thanks man, but I guess I'm more into Manila 2.5 than any other customisations.
elab said:
vinsyl said:
Originally Posted by vinsyl View Post
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
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Vinsyl, thanks very much yes, elab is right, you make some good points.
However, may I digress...
I have already done a lot of investigating into the differences between the builds....
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
- After research I also came to the conclusion that it Manila 2.5 was heavily buggy in pre-release, especially in landscape mode..... however, having now seen a full release on the HD2 and I'm guessing working in full landscape mode with all it's own apps, I was guessing that one of the CHEF's will have had a chance to rip Manila 2.5 out of the HD2 and whack it in a TP2 rom.
So Remember, I'm not looking for a STOCK rom, that comes from HTC. I'm looking for a Stock ROM base, cooked up to WM 6.5.1 with a seasoning of Manila 2.5 and no further additives. Is there a chef willing to try something so CRAZY?!
geejayoh said:
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
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6.5 does threaded SMS. (it's the first thing I turn off though, I hate it) You will need a tweak program to enable / disable, sometimes the cook will provide something built in. (sometimes in Start -> Settings -> System menu there is a "Threaded SMS" icon, otherwise use Rhodium Tweak Tool or HD Tweak one of those will do it)
And 6.5.1 has the "silly blobs at the bottom" same as 6.5.3
If you want start menu at the top you want 6.5 (or 6.1 I suppose). Also if you are looking for STABLE you want 6.5.
6.5.1 / 6.5.3 are from leaked Microsoft BETA code and therefore aren't really designed to be stable, of course you may find they are stable for you, I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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question why did you stop using it? I am thinking of picking up EnergyROM_23081
Hi,
I've just upgraded to the TD2 from the original TD (which I had modded with various useful apps), but now I require some help with the TD2.
I don't really understand the often mentioned Manilla modification.
Is it a complete ROM update which will replace the WM 6.5 update along with its HTC Sense interface?
Am I correct in thinking that the HTC sense in the TD2 is different from the Sense in the HD2? This is how I'm reading it in the forums.
If this is the case will the MaxManilla update (ROM rewrite?) work still.
Basically I really need to have the calendar on the home screen to display the next appointments, whether they are from the next day or further down the week/month. It's really very frustrating that it only shows the current and next days appointments. It'd also be useful if it showed the tasks (if they're active) too.
Cheers in advance.
/R
Hi im pretty new to the phone wel been using it for a month and I might be able to help you out.
Most roms now run on sense 2.5 which is the roms for td2(aka Topaz) based off of the HD2(aka Leo) it has most functions which run on the leo also max manilla is basically for customizing the look of the interface and yes when you flash your device will be wiped and reinstalled with useful applications and programs just like when you first bought it
manila/sense vs maxmanila
Manila is the core system file known as HTC Sense - you can't install this from a .cab [for now], that's why any upgrade to manila is directly implemented in ROM [ROM rebuild > flash ROM]
MaxManilla is an application designed to customize Manila
-= for now =-
if you want to upgrade manila / sense, you can't unless you reflash your rom
if you want to upgrade maxmanila, that's ok, but that doesn't mean you upgrade the manila core
Hi there,
I've lost overview of the many, many ROMs to try. Maybe someone can help me ...
There are only two features that are important for me:
1) speed and smoothness
2) I want to see 3 (better 4) calender items on the home tab
ad 2) is there another way than using cookie monsters home tab (this needs sense 2.5 and that means the ROM is too slow. I think WM 6.1 and Manila 2.1 would be best.)
Thanks in Advance,
ausgang
Well, try searching a bit harder next time
Topix 3.5 WM6.1 Manila 2.1 Sense weather should be a good choice for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
The non-weather one has a rather old Manila, wouldn't actually recommend that.
if you want a Manila 2.1 rom with 6.5.x build (start menu and close button at the bottom) I recommend BlackstoneHenge
@semicuda: I am not 100% sure, but I think I already tried this. As I can remeber theres no way to get 3-4 calender items in the Home Tab...
ausgang said:
@semicuda: I am not 100% sure, but I think I already tried this. As I can remeber theres no way to get 3-4 calender items in the Home Tab...
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3,4, AND MORE: try SPB MOBILE SHELL.
Is there a Kitchen available that is wm6.5 with manila 2.5. I tried to port it but I keep getting errors in the rom,(all I get is the todayscreen with no other tabs and no soft buttons)( or manila 2.5 doesn't load at all) I dont know how to fix this so I am asking if anyone has a kitchen or knows where I can get one with wm 6.5 not 6.5.x with manila 2.5
I am confused by your request - if am not misunderstanding you, then just download OsKitchenZero by airextreme, import the stock 2.07 Rhodium Rom, and you have your kitchen with manile 2.5 and normal 6.5. Thats how I started but have imported a 6.5.x build and rebased to that. Very happy.
crazyC said:
I am confused by your request - if am not misunderstanding you, then just download OsKitchenZero by airextreme, import the stock 2.07 Rhodium Rom, and you have your kitchen with manile 2.5 and normal 6.5. Thats how I started but have imported a 6.5.x build and rebased to that. Very happy.
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Dosen't the Rhodium 2.07 have manila 2.1, I am trying to get the manila from hd2
Nope, it came with Manila build 2012. (Which is 2.5 as far as I know)
I have found that all the later ones from the HD2 that have the extended tabs use up a lot of memory when run with Cookie Home Tab. (if that is what you are after then that is a later build of 2.5 and I do not think it exists natively on the Rhodium - obviously it can and has been cooked in Rhodium ROMS, but was not meant for it.)
I have found that running Manila 2012, with Cookie Home Tab 1.6.1 and disabling tabs I do not use (music, internet, stocks,Photos - I mean I just run Opera or S2P from the quicklinks - dont need a tab) gives a faster and more reliable system. I have found the memory management on 23569 when combined with manila to be excellent. My phone idles at around 30-35% free and regains memory when you close apps.
I have also inserted the HTC messaging 1.8 (from build 2015) in the mix as well, works fine).
WOW I feel like the guy who just wlaked out of the stall with a string of tolit paper stuck to the bottem of his shoe:S
JMM2009 said:
WOW I feel like the guy who just wlaked out of the stall with a string of tolit paper stuck to the bottem of his shoe:S
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sorry - not my intention. justt trying to share what little experience i have.
i could never get all the roms with all the nice eye candy to work consistently enough and be stable over say 3 to 4 days for me to be happy.i would still recomend air extremes kitchen, then follow his link for the latest leo packages, and upgrade to the manila you want that way.
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Nope, it came with Manila build 2012. (Which is 2.5 as far as I know)
I have found that all the later ones from the HD2 that have the extended tabs use up a lot of memory when run with Cookie Home Tab. (if that is what you are after then that is a later build of 2.5 and I do not think it exists natively on the Rhodium - obviously it can and has been cooked in Rhodium ROMS, but was not meant for it.)
I have found that running Manila 2012, with Cookie Home Tab 1.6.1 and disabling tabs I do not use (music, internet, stocks,Photos - I mean I just run Opera or S2P from the quicklinks - dont need a tab) gives a faster and more reliable system. I have found the memory management on 23569 when combined with manila to be excellent. My phone idles at around 30-35% free and regains memory when you close apps.
I have also inserted the HTC messaging 1.8 (from build 2015) in the mix as well, works fine).
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crazyC, There are some excellent ROMS out there but they just aren't quite my flavor so I've decided it's time to cook my own. I just ran into this post (i know a little late) but i was hoping you'd answer the following since you have exactly what i wanted to build.
1. The most stable stock Rom i found for my phone is the ASIA 6.5, is this the same one you started your Kitchen from?
2. When you added the 1.8 HTC messaging client did you have to upgrade some of the other Sense packages too or just the client.
Thanks...