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wm 6.1 or wm 6.5

Hi
I have tried many different roms and are currently at dutty 2.6.
How far has wm6.5 rom come?
I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500523

you guys rock
The way you take no prisoners with people who might not have time to trawl through a couple of thousand posts before asking a genuine question. You guys really are as hard as nails... no scratch that, maybe youre inadequate teenagers struggling to find a meaning to life beyond a slightly disappointing smartphone?

Hi there,
Don't judge everyone by some people's attitude on here...
It is a tough question though, but it would be good to hear peoples views on whether they prefer wm 6.1 or wm 6.5 - and why
I'm just changing from Miri's 6.5 v 5.2 rom back to Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 EXTREME, purely for the simple fact that I love the customisation that Dutty has done to Manilla and the integration to facebook/contacts seems better on Dutty's rom than Miri's.
Don't get me wrong, both roms are constantly being developed and both roms have their advantages, but for me, Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 hits it (and 2.7 will be better!!!)
I'm sure there are more features to 6.5 and it is supposed to be better screen operations for finger rather than pen, but the only thing I really noticed is the new start menu, which is good, but not very customisable.
Been round 2-3 times with these 2 roms, but think I always end up going back to Dutty's.
Give them both a try though as it is each persons perspective on what they prefer from their HD.

I am not being hard and I don't mind helping, just look at some of my posts, but the problem is every couple of days someone asks: Is this rom better for me? Is X rom faster than Y rom? Can you recommend a rom for me?
Just do a search in this rom forum to see how many have been asking the same thing OVER and OVER, or better yet just look at the last few pages!!
The thing is we are all here for the same reason, we all want the fastest, greatest etc, but it is all subjective. The rom that is perfect for me is maybe not even close to good for you....
As for being a teenager, lol, I wish

tru and i feel all of u but the question is which rom do u prefer .... i havnt tried 6.5 but i would like to read reviews on the differences....and no opinons on wat u like for urself who cares wat u want this post is basic info on the differences between 6.1 and 6.5.

its funny cause u sr and jr members are here to help us newbies out and u dont... i had to teach myself how to mode my hd and how to change the roms now im teaching myself on how to mod and create my own rom.... i do wana thank u guys for creating these roms but u guys are here to help not talk slick but please everyone google ur questions first before just postin anywhere... but i feel this is a descent thread

i havent tried 6.5 and im not going to
when 6.5 is released properly then the good version will be properly put on the hd
until then its 6.1

My goodness, lets everyone just start a new thread for no other reason than laziness to read and experiment, dont encourage this kind topics as it sets a bad example!

seams to me that "IT" guys have a chip on there shoulder, all we are looking for is a bit help. We are not all computer experts. We all want the same thing though. The best and fastest rom. It does not matter what is good for me is not good for you. We are simply asking a question. And you are the guys to answer the questions. Yes you could do a search and get about 10,000 answers. Do you have time to go thru all them for the one you are looking for. COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again this is heading down the path of another useless thread as everyone is talking off topic again.
This is why MOD's delete threads like this as they just go round in circles with people complaining etc etc etc.
If you want this thread to remain open, start talking about the topic again, otherwise thread will close very soon. I'm actually surprised its still open.
Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!

So true am new to all of this, I've been trying to put the 6.5 rom on htc hd and finding help is not easy.

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but it is all subjective.
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I don't understand why everyone decline the question. In my understanding the question just ask about the advantages of the 6.5 in comparison to 6.1 ROMs here.
May be this question question the high-number-must-better attidude of many of us but for me this question is adequate and reasonable. No reason to harm somebody.
brodos123 said:
I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5
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Maybe this helps: ll you need to know about Windows Mobile 6.5
Relating to this article:
1. Windows Mobile becomes Windows Phone
Surely no reason for our choice.
2. All new menus
6.1: Manula, manila menus, new start menu etc. from HTC
6.5: honeycomb today screen, new menus etc.
Both solutions are more finger friendly -> Its you choice.
3. Flick gestures
Like HTC with manila and some other options on 6.1, microsoft try the same with 6.5. -> Its you choice.
4. Better browser
Most 6.1 ROMs here use Opera and 6.5 the new internet explorer. -> Its you choice.
7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
8. Improved e-mail and messaging
I didn't check this with current 6.5 ROMs but it seems to be, that HTC (on old 6.1 ROMs) made the same.
So, after all this points, for me there is no big advantage between the new 6.5 ROM and the old 6.1 ROMs with HTC applications like manila.
It's only your choice, if you prefer manila or honeycombs, the solutions from HTC or Microsoft.

Elim said:
7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
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For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>

dom_mitchell1 said:
For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>
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Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!

Fallen Spartan said:
Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!
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That is exactly what I wanted to hear! Magic!

I used Duttys 2.4 ROM earlier, loved it.
I installed Davideucks wm6.5 rom yesterday, I love the speed of the Titanium menu, feels really smooth, so does the start-menu and mail inbox.
But like dom_mitchell1 i miss some small stuff from manila/duttys ROM.
Things I dont like about WM 6.5 is that I dont think we cant customzie the main Titanium menue, yet? For instance I would like it to launch Opera instead of IE.
I liked the new Manila calendar better.
Today screen only shows one appointment. I dont know why they dont use all that empty space they left in the lock-screen, its perfect for showing multiple appointments.
Moving icons the way you want them in the new sart-menu is a hassle.
Hearing that Dutty is moving to 6.5 is really great.
I bet he will bring great stuff to it.

OFFTOPIC: IMO, the biggest factor for chosing either wm6.1 or wm6.5 is personal choice, based on several factors: functionality, looks, speed, customization, compatibility. Thats why it is really difficult to chose the perfect ROM for everybody. This debate between newer members asking this sort of questions and older members becoming sick and tired of answering them is old and it will last forever, I guess. No matter how many times you say to a new member: go read wiki, etc, there will ALWAYS be smb. new coming and asking the same question tomorrow. I, personally, prefer to help instead of suggesting: go read, but sometimes I am way too lazy to present a proper answer, hence I just ignore the question. I believe this should be the solution to this, but everybody treats it differently.
ONTOPIC: I have tried 20+ ROMs for HD, most of them wm6.1, but now i'm on Davide wm6.5 rom and i dont wanna go back. why?
at the beginning its the looks. I guess i just grew tired of the dark, black HTC customization. Also, manila was not suitable for me, i didnt use 70% of the features, i guess: didnt use favourite people tab (its easier to dial directly from phone app.), didnt use financial info tab (not interested), didnt use internet tab (i can easily just open Opera from programs) etc.
Wm6.5 is finally moving at an acceptable speed, the Start menu looks great (although it lacks customization mostly), and from the home screen i can listen to music, see photos, see the wheather (by using titanium weather 2.2) and I can use some HD-quality pictures as background. Also, email, sms lists look neater, more classy. the softkey menus are bigger, more finger-friendly. These are reasons enough for me to use wm6.5 and not come back to 6.1. Not to mention being a smart-ass among my friends with HTC HD and stock ROM.
So if you go rather towards new, imperfect technically-wise ROMs, I advice you to go to 6.5. It is fully utilisable. I actually used the previous Davide ROM for a week!!, which is quite a lot of time in my recent days. If you prefer much functionality and perfect, 100% reliable device, go for wm6.1 roms..

Fallen Spartan said:
Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!
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Yes, like 6.1 was a facelift to 6.0, and 6.0 to 5.0. So what? The latest beta versions of 6.5 are clearly faster than 6.1 and you do not need TF anymore, which by itself slows down WM.

fair question. my advice is to sprite backup ur data. try out each new 6.5 rom cook then, if u don't like it, go back to ur previous rom & do #1 spritr restore.
personally, I found early 6.5 roms really slow & unresponsive so I too abandoned the concept for extreme 2.6.
I have decided to wait til it's officially released. I don't think it's anywhere near ready. oh, and it didn't recognize my sdd card.
the big improvements for me were the big X in top right corner (close button) and the opera like IE browser.

Which Rom You Recomend?

Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!

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Sw1pe said:
Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!
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I have found I want to experiment lots.
I have experimented with Onkolog, LIA which I had issues with, particularly around customising the phone with themes etc.
Between the big 3, Davideuck, Dutty and Miri, my choice is Miri 6.5 V16.
You may find you want to experiment too.
I personally prefer Manila TF3D over 6.5 Titanium and I don't care at all for SPB Mb Shell 3. I haven't tried PointUI but I am pretty sure I would still prefer Manila.
I suggest you go for it and experiment lots.
You can't go wrong with the big 3.

try ones 6.5 but prefered 6.1
6.5 more stable what they claim
try every ROM the best answer
good luck...

I personally prefer miri's wm6.5 v16 for now.because it's beautiful and stable.

Miri's WM6.5 series ROMs are the best!
I have tried out Dutty, MaryOne, taisee and Miri, and finally stayed on miri's ROMs, among which I have flasehd v9.1, 10, 11,12,13,15,16,16.1.
I have several thousand contacts and Calendar data since 2002 on my phone. Only Miris' ROM works with my data so smoothly and fast.

just a question..
Regardless of which ROM you flash, the flashing method is the same right? I've once flashed using USPL for Dutty ROM. If I were to flash now from Dutty ROM to let's say Miri v6.5 ROM, can I use USPL method again directly?
Thanks.

i feel your thread will be banned...
anyways i am happy to recommend you the Topix 2.1, i used many version of dutty but eventually topix is much more fast and stable. i am still expecting dutty's better wm6.5, i still believe in dutty

test and choose
it depends a lot your usage and your priorities.
for me, the are a lot of great cooker doing stablerom: miri, kwbr, duttythroy, pdaviet,laurentius,...
I've not tested all so I'm not saying that these are the only ones.
As my priority is the speed an fluidity of the phone i help on bench marking rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516190
and based on these results damn small topix is the fastest one.
it's also very stable.
As you can see in the bench result, 6.5 roms are slower but usually they use less ram.
again, all this is my priority.
the best is try some then decide.

houms said:
As you can see in the bench result, 6.5 roms are slower
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Where do you see that? I don't think that the newer versions of 6.5 "slower" than 6.1.

Sw1pe said:
Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!
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If you use often Internet on your phone, i recomend you Laurentius L26 2.3 (WIndows Mobile 6.1): this rom provide the best mobile navigation experience with awesome version of Opera tweaked by Laurentius and with a usefull zoomslider.
Also L26 is stable, clomplete of most rilevant applications, strongly optimized and with a confortable and pretty upper menu with battery icon that show exact state of the battery...this is very useful for me.

i liked onkolog's rom if youre looking for speed + lots of free memory and battery life

If you use outlook and associated programs a lot, WM 6.5 is a lot better.
On WM 6.5 Apps can use close to 64M if your drivers and related DLLs are all in the 61 and 60 slots.
Regarding the benchmarks - I would say that a lot of what is importan about performance w.r.t. the end user experience is difficult to measure
: i.e. random stalls and a lack of responsivenes, larency when switching between aps or when touching the screen, and general smoothness of presentation.

These types of threads never get anywhere. Try some ROM's yourself and choose. Everyone taste are different.

I've used a couple recent Dutty roms and they were great, but now I'm using the fantastic Topix 2.1 rom and I love it. Bug free, stable, fast, and no annoying sms problems.
I've tried a couple different Winmo 6.5 roms and I'm not a big fan of it as it is right now. Winmo 6.5 titanium interface doesn't provide me with ease of use as TF3D does. There is no awesome music player or anything of the sort on titanium, just the same ol crappy Windows Media Player.
I find myself using TF3D even when I have a Winmo6.5 rom so I fail to see the point. The 6.5 notifications overwriting the TF3D ones, app incompatibility, etc, just makes it more annoying for me to use.
I'm gonna wait until 6.5 is more well established...or just wait for 7 =D

If you like TF3D i recommend you keep using WM6.1 ROM's... It just doesn't integrate very well with the new WM6.5 style menu's. It is possible though, but since TF3D replaces a lot of WM6.5's functions the advantage isn't that great. It is however the safest choice if you would like to try out WM6.5, but don't know yet if you want to abandon TF3D.
Personally I'm a big fan of WM6.5, and I don´t use TF3D at all anymore. The new titanium interface is sleek and stylish, and with some plugins from the XDA forums (search for 'CHome' + wat you need) I have all the functionality I need (without out the hassle and memory consumption of TF3D).
As said before by other people, you have to chose yourself. Read allot on the different ROM's, about there features, memory, WM6.1 / WM 6.5, addons / customizations, etc.
After this you'll probably have 2 or 3 ROM's you'll want to try: Do so. Flash these ROM's and you'll know exactly what you like and don't like. This is the only way of finding out if the ROM has and does what you want it to.
So stop reading this thread and do some research Good luck!

For me?? MIRI THE BEST!
Its up to individual.. Try playing with the few roms and u roughly know which you like.

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Tired of switiching ROM'S. What's your solution?

Hey guys,
Everytime I switch to a rom that is expected to be really good I end up with a laggy, slow, buggy device.
I tried almost every rom on this site and nothing really works for me.
I am looking for a ROM that is stable and somewhat up-to-date. Maybe manilla 2.1 or something. I really don't like all the new LEO roms, they are SO slow and buggy I don't even understand how some of you can deal with them.
What's the secret? or is my device just faulty and slow?
Can you name a ROM that you found to be fast and not too ugly? I also need 'some' eyecandy. Speed is of course the most important aspect.
Kind Regards
Thomas

Touch X 10.1 is the way to go...very stable, fast and looks good (especially the MrRusch blue theme).
I've tried many of the roms on this forum but yet always flash back to Touch X 10.1. If there was ever a perfect 6.1 rom this is it

exxi said:
Hey guys,
Everytime I switch to a rom that is expected to be really good I end up with a laggy, slow, buggy device.
I tried almost every rom on this site and nothing really works for me.
I am looking for a ROM that is stable and somewhat up-to-date. Maybe manilla 2.1 or something. I really don't like all the new LEO roms, they are SO slow and buggy I don't even understand how some of you can deal with them.
What's the secret? or is my device just faulty and slow?
Can you name a ROM that you found to be fast and not too ugly? I also need 'some' eyecandy. Speed is of course the most important aspect.
Kind Regards
Thomas
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Same here -tried almost every rom - jack v3.11 using now fast, smooth, no freezes. With HDwall you can change background see screenshots: http://mackosorbar.extra.hu/sex1.htm

Yep, jack v3.11, then either use the included TF3D or use SPB Mobile Shell.

I found Touch X 10.1 to be a dream really but I hoped that all the new stuff will help create a comprehensive rom that is also fast. I must have been mistaken. Some of those highly rated roms out there are a TRUE nightmare. I just don't get why people seem to like them.
When you try to navigate from one TF3D tab to another you get stuck 200 times + it randomly gets really laggy and then you have to restart.
I think I wll give jack a try.

the reason many are slow and buggy are because the manilla nd lots of other things in them are not actually finished by HTC yet nor is wm6.5.x!
wait for manila 2.5 and wm6.5.x to actually complete before you flash another rom if you want ultimate stability!
i lcan live with it because, well i'm a flashaholic

Not to mention you can't really judge a rom based on a version.
One day the rom will work pretty well, the next day it's a new build + new manila, etc, etc and it has entirely different problems.

My solution is to cook my own rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564743
As you know many chefs cook their roms based on what they like, not what users want. After all, everyone has different needs and the chefs cannot customize a rom for everyone. That's why I also released my source kitchen for customization.
Are you looking for WM6.1 or WM6.5 - based rom? I can find you some manila 2.1 packages and put into my kithcen so you can start customizing.

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Hey Exxi,
I think you have to realise that WM6.5 and the new manila are both in beta. This is really an explosive combination.
For example I have found that pure WM6.5 roms are rather stable. You can use SPB Mobile shell or PoinUI and all will be fine.
Some WM6.5 + Manila 2.1.19 roms are quite stable (I said quite), usually the 23016 builds.
All the Leo roms tend to have issues.
There are many reasons for this, none of which can be attributed to the cooks. In effect the cooks do a fantastic job at making the Leo ROMs as good as they are. I have great respect for them.
As everyone said, TouchX 10.1 is your best shot. That ROM is a work of art.
If you want an upgrade from that, you can try the WM6.1 + Manila 2.1.19 ROMS, such as Jack v.3.11 and TouchX 10.5/10.6. If you want more Eye candy, play around with some nice themes, add some applications.
Alternatively get yourself a squeaky fast WM6.5 rom (23016 or even 23053...or the recently released WM6.5 One off) and use SPB mobile shell + SPB Phone suite + Various resco apps. The result can be quite pleasing.
Alternatively, you can try becoming a Titanium expert. I personally have failed miserably at that...but again...I hear it can be quite pleasing.
P.s. One final word, I have been watching closely the WM6.5 + Manila 2.1.19 ROMs. I would like to point out that while there still is a noticeable difference in performance with the WM6.1+ Manila 2.1.19 ROMs, this gap is closing up rather quickly.

NRGZ28 manila 2.1 roms
Try NRGZ28 2.1 manila roms. Fase and stable. Few things to complain. Last version is 22.09.2009 standard 2.1. Works best for me.
G.

Here too, i tried a lot of roms during the first couple of months with my X1, then when i found TouchX 10 then 10.1 i stayed with them, now once a month i flash to one of those Beta 6.5 or Leo roms to see if i ever can find a new stable fast rom, but most of the times i get back to TouchX 10.1 after a couple of hours.
now i moved to TouchX 10.5 which is as much stable as the TouchX 10.1, the best ROMs ever
and my trick to do everything fast is to backup the entire rom before trying some other rom with SPB Backup, then when i reflash back to TouchX 10.1 i just do a full restore and i am back productive as before, all settings and apps are back in their place..

mcbyte_it said:
Here too, i tried a lot of roms during the first couple of months with my X1, then when i found TouchX 10 then 10.1 i stayed with them, now once a month i flash to one of those Beta 6.5 or Leo roms to see if i ever can find a new stable fast rom, but most of the times i get back to TouchX 10.1 after a couple of hours.
now i moved to TouchX 10.5 which is as much stable as the TouchX 10.1, the best ROMs ever
and my trick to do everything fast is to backup the entire rom before trying some other rom with SPB Backup, then when i reflash back to TouchX 10.1 i just do a full restore and i am back productive as before, all settings and apps are back in their place..
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This is a good approach. I find myself returning to TouchX 10.1 all the time, too. I have finally managed to curb my flashing habit and only flash when I find a ROM that seems to have something I REALLY want to try.
Right now I am using Valkyrie 3.8.53 Leo since it allows me to use the latest version of the Dusk theme which I had to try out. Looks fantastic and it seems that the ROM is almost at the same usability level as Touch X 10.1 now, but not quite.
I don't think it will take much longer for manila 2.5 to be working as well as 2.1 and the latest builds of WM6.5 are also almost as good as 6.1. Still some teething issues, the biggest for me being the WM6.5 volume adjuster app which sucks IMHO.

The short but crude answer would be: stay away from Windows Mobile
No really, it's getting better by the day so there's hope.
Personally, I use mobilevu's V-Lite 4.3. It's a little older but works like a charm.
Titanium only, but I combine this with SPB 3 so I have a stable and snappy X1!

I keep hitting the same brick wall over and over again.
In long term, SE stock R3 tends to be most stable and bug-free. Jack's has been faster, but it has it's own share of bugs.
So after trying out about 10 ROMs every few months i land back on stock ROM and just customize it a bit.

TouchX 10.1, Is the Chosen One.

Using Valkirie 2.9 Firestorm. For me it's best ROM, i'm using this ROM already for more than month. Tried switching to 2.5 but new windows mobile design and 2.5 Leo is not usable as 2016 builds are and 2.1 Manila.

i always return to touch x 10.1
it is the best rom in terms of speed and stability.

mekstro said:
The short but crude answer would be: stay away from Windows Mobile
No really, it's getting better by the day so there's hope.
Personally, I use mobilevu's V-Lite 4.3. It's a little older but works like a charm.
Titanium only, but I combine this with SPB 3 so I have a stable and snappy X1!
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V-Lite here also.Exactly as you told, This ROM+SPB and Resco stuff and one stable and hardworking X1 since one month ago. I can use Titanum whenever I want though. I think mobilevu is waiting for the official release of WM6.5. I hope he comes back to upgrade his ROM at that time.

nawfalah said:
i always return to touch x 10.1
it is the best rom in terms of speed and stability.
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Agreed: The best 6.1 is probably Touch X 10.1. Master Smaberg was very good.
6.5 is a different beast. There are MANY GREAT ROM's out there. Each has its own 'issues'. You can usually find the best ROM for 'you' by defining what it is you need in your phone. And go for it.
My needs are, in order, Phone,email, sms, internet, fast, pretty. For these I have found NRG ROMs work best for me.
Christians, Valkyre, Tornado, Jack, and others ALL make good ROMs. Each has an issue that impacts my basic needs. BUT...I try each of their new ones..!!!

wm6.1 and manila 2.5

hello
as i surfing other phone threads i saw many WM 6.1- MANILA 2.5 cooked rom for X1 TP2 and diamond2 and... is there any thing for Blackstone ? as in my opinion WM6.1 is much much faster than WM6.5. I almost tried all wm6.5 roms but they are buggy and slower than WM6.1.
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!

The problem with the buggyness is not due to win 6.5 but Manila 2.5, the problems would be at least the same with 6.1.
I suggest u try some of the win 6.5 + manila 2.1 that there are around such as miri v30, they're very fast and very stable.

xborfi said:
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Guess why? Because in contradiction to your opinion, almost everybody here regards WM 6.5 as fast, more user friendly, better looking, and bugfree.
As he said: Try 6.5 with Manila 2.1, because it is 2.5 that is slowing down things with the slow Touch HD processor, not 6.5.

yes . tried those V30 and V12 also. they are acceptable but not running smooth. I think Blackstone lack of drivers for WM6.5 causes that. they freezes randomly so not good for daily uses. I almost lost some of my important information using those roms but they are good things to experience things coming future! how ever I think manila 2.5 will run better on Blackstone. now I am switched to miri WM6.1 with manila 2.5 but the version of manila used there is older manila 2.5 one which is buggy and the rom is also discontinued.
-I am also thinking of overclocking the blackstone processor as the last solution since I damaged my htc prophet one because of overclocking

xborfi said:
...the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao

keopsjo said:
Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao
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for sure! I am now playing with this rom. its fast and smooth. manila is working as what it should be and smooth as i saw in the demo of HD2. however since this rom is discontinued the manila is rather old 2.5 one which having some problems. how ever i am now forget about some broken things and I am happy with this rom.

is miri V3.0 the only WM6.1 and Manila 2.5 available? is there is any other please provide me with the link. thanks

i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.

khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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I agree with you. All WM6.5 ROM I tried are slower then WM6.1 ones.
Now I'm using Miri's WM6.1 Manila2.5 and it's fast, very fast.
I have also update some packages. The only bugs I've are: Facebook and Footprints. Also the default WM6.1 is very bad... but I'm working on it to replace with a third part action screen.
ReX

i agree, it is fast but it is rather old and have some bugs

can some one upload the ROM file and post the link here? the one on the official thread doen not have any free user download slots left.
please

khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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Hey, do you mind tell me which version you are using?
I'm using miri wm6.1 + Sense 2.5. I gotta say, I love WM6.1 better than 6.5. I find the battery life is better. Also, the speed is better than 6.5. I'm not saying 6.5 is slow, just 6.1 is faster than 6.5.

hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well

People still use 6.1? There is a reason noone puts 2.5 on 6.1
Its so OOOOLLLLDDD. Live in the NOW! once you go kinetic you can't go back! Once you made that move the next one is clear, once you go 6.5.1 + 2.5 there is definitely no going back! Unless you don't commend appearance or usability high on your list.....then you can stick with 6.1
MAN UP, PUT UP WITH THE EXTRA FEW MILISECOND LAG WITH 6.5x ROMS AND ENJOY THE AWESOMENESS!
I am a fellow topix follower, but I love the new 6.5.1 far too much to worry that it takes a few more miliseconds to do things. BOOHOO
P.S, do you still use windows 95? Cos its ALOT faster than xp, vista, and windows 7. I use windows 7 cos it looks god damn gorgeous (and way more features lol) - catch my drift?

I get ur point.. but i still wonder why u r still on HD, i am sure there alot of newer phones out alreday. HD is so OOOOLLLLDDD!!!
anyways, everybody choose whatever they are comfortable with. I'll request you to refrain yourself from passing such remarks(n making such posts) on what others choose. Let them live in the primitive era if they wish to.. Rest its up to u.

varunverma said:
hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well
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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you

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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you
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the twitter tab is not working on this ROM, i want manila 2.5 for that only.
else i m very happy with my current ROM

Looking for a ROM, cant remember the name.

Hey, been a while since i modded my old X1.
Atm its using a energyrom from august.
Im looking for a good rom with the touchflo interface, but still not slow as many roms are.
Ive tried a few who works really good, but those are without the "manilla" or what you call it.
Can anyone suggest a good rom that is fast and responsive and above all - stable! but still uses the tf3d stylish interface?
Merry Christmas!

since august happend alot
i like the new itje roms like "touchIT 11" or "touch it black". those use manila 2.5 and wimo 6.5
agent47s valkyrie roms are very fast and there is a new touch x from from mr rush (10.9.1) out.
just to name a few
u have a lot to discover

Fructis said:
Hey, been a while since i modded my old X1.
Atm its using a energyrom from august.
Im looking for a good rom with the touchflo interface, but still not slow as many roms are.
Ive tried a few who works really good, but those are without the "manilla" or what you call it.
Can anyone suggest a good rom that is fast and responsive and above all - stable! but still uses the tf3d stylish interface?
Merry Christmas!
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I'd suggest Valkyrie 5.2 if your looking for a stylish and fast working Manilla (TouchFlo3D) 2.5 rom
itje's Touch-It v11 or Black are also very good, but Valkyrie seemed more responsive to me.

pansen222 said:
since august happend alot
i like the new itje roms like "touchIT 11" or "touch it black". those use manila 2.5 and wimo 6.5
agent47s valkyrie roms are very fast and there is a new touch x from from mr rush (10.9.1) out.
just to name a few
u have a lot to discover
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I don't think the newer Valkyrie roms are fast..at least, on my phone they are slow. Still love them though
I would advice Touch IT, every single one of them is a masterpiece!

Hy!
I've tried a lot of ROMS. I don't really use Manila interface but it looks nice. Now it's called HTC Sense as I've seen in Home Settings.
The fastest one I've tried is this: LEO 2.01 Rom port and 1'st ROMANIAN ROM for X1 Devices @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604786.
This one seems to be fastest I've tried so far. I love Agent's ROMS, but HTC Sense isn't as fast from what I've seen.
I don't know if you'll have any issue with it as being a romanian ROM (from what I've seen seems to be in english). I can't use my phone in Romanian because I don't understand ). After 10 years of using PC and phone in english I find it hard using them in Romanian.
If you flash it and you won't like it I suggest using Agent's ROM. That's what I got now and I'm happy!
If you want to have the normal Windows Mobile 6.5 bottom taskbar (the one that doesn't stay on top of programs few pixels), you should flash a 21xxx version. If you can live without some pixels and you want your phone to be more finger friendly you shoul check 28xxx versions
Cheers!
Cheers! Hope this helped you!

cristidotro said:
Hy!
I've tried a lot of ROMS. I don't really use Manila interface but it looks nice. Now it's called HTC Sense as I've seen in Home Settings.
The fastest one I've tried is this: LEO 2.01 Rom port and 1'st ROMANIAN ROM for X1 Devices @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604786.
This one seems to be fastest I've tried so far. I love Agent's ROMS, but HTC Sense isn't as fast from what I've seen.
I don't know if you'll have any issue with it as being a romanian ROM (from what I've seen seems to be in english). I can't use my phone in Romanian because I don't understand ). After 10 years of using PC and phone in english I find it hard using them in Romanian.
If you flash it and you won't like it I suggest using Agent's ROM. That's what I got now and I'm happy!
If you want to have the normal Windows Mobile 6.5 bottom taskbar (the one that doesn't stay on top of programs few pixels), you should flash a 21xxx version. If you can live without some pixels and you want your phone to be more finger friendly you shoul check 28xxx versions
Cheers!
Cheers! Hope this helped you!
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Thanks for that!
Imma ****ing send you a x10 for the trouble!