The NEW ROMS are getting too slow - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

Starting from WM6.5 and Manila 2.5, the ROM is now very slow in comparing with the stock rom. The lag time is now about 0.5 seconds for every button pressed. the Manila animation is not smooth especially at the sunny day. Neo Driver doesn't really help (may be 2-3% which is not a big deal).
Could the chef please share some lite rom with old manila or even without it?
Is it is problem with wm6.5 or only the manila?

I would have to agree. I of course appreciate the work the cooks are doing but personally I would prefer something that is lighter for a ROM.
I'm running Onkolog's ROM at the moment, without any issues. It's actually his full ROM but it's still very fast and good in terms of battery, etc. Having said this I wouldn't mind to see greater selection in lite roms!

Just try different ROM's. Some are Faster than others. But just FYI the new Manila and all the gadgets are really being prepped for the HD2 and newer devices with Snap Dragon 1Ghz Processor. We can run them on our devices and tweak them to run pretty good but they will not be as fast as on the newer devices.
WM 6.5 21xxx series is very stable without manila.

Think this thread has served its purpose. As bobsbbq stated baove, reason for latest roms being slower is due to the fact they were designed for newer device with Snap Dragon 1Ghz Processor and not for the HD. Inevitably the HD would be slower as processor not as good.
However, some roms are faster than pothers, so I'd recommend trying a few
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Not impressed by current ROMs

Hey,
Firstly, I would like to thank all the developers for making efforts to develop a decent rom for the Xperia. I have tried every single one of them.
Unfortunately I couldn't fall in love with any of them.
Somehow I sense that it must me me that is doing something if other older HTC devices seem to be running way faster on customized roms than the experia with so much hardware potential.
Anyone has the same feeling?
Kind Regards
no.
EDIT: For the sake of order: I've used an HTC Trinity before, which was MUCH slower - even with ultra light roms and maximum free RAM. I compared with the TyTn II, which has just awful landscape-switching speed and was overall slower. Compared with the Touch Pro, I don't see any big differences - and if, with slight advantages for the X1.
So, no, I don't think the X1 is slow or not smooth enough. It just depends on what you're running. TouchFlo3D just slows the system down significantly - even on the (original) HTC devices (like Diamond, Touch Pro or Touch HD).
this is the same comments coming everytime there is a new device.
Look at in.ex polaris...ok device, a bit slow. Now it have optimized 2d and 3d drivers, its damn fast compared to what it used to be...but that didnt happen with a snap of our fingers..
we are just in the beginning of working on x1
So please, be as unimpressed as you want.
have a nice day
cheers
Well, one should not forget, that the x1 has 25% more pixels than Diamond or Touch Pro and even 400% more pixels than Tytn II & Co ...

Speed of Custom Roms

Hey...
i flashed my x1 with nearly every custom rom released here in forum... now im back at stock spl and stock vodafone ger rom... and its crazy.. to my mind its faster than ever before with a custom rom
strange for german rom i know that my rom is definitly faster , but if you are happy with the stock rom then it is ok
each to their own...
You're absolutely right but he broiught to my mind these ole tytn days when a stremlined cooked ROM realy realy SIGNIFICATIVELY improved the phone and I was wondering why I wasn't feeling the same on my X1
Even small changes freeing a couple of extra MB of RAM (eg. deleting some MS crap) was a big bang on a 64MB device
Then I remembered I have 300MB RAM
Real speed gain would be nice...
gtrab said:
You're absolutely right but he broiught to my mind these ole tytn days when a stremlined cooked ROM realy realy SIGNIFICATIVELY improved the phone and I was wondering why I wasn't feeling the same on my X1
Even small changes freeing a couple of extra MB of RAM (eg. deleting some MS crap) was a big bang on a 64MB device
Then I remembered I have 300MB RAM
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I agree !
Tried many X1 and Raphael Roms on my 2 devices and the gain of speed is only minor compared to the flying fast TyTN Custom Roms back then.
The only real gain is having removed all the junk and so more free "rom" is avail...
Many people here are like ... THIS or THAT Rom is blazing fast and stuff but if have a real look you will find out that maybe some windows appear a bit faster but the rest is equal...
Benchmark are corroberating my theory ! (I did alot of them ! )
Not only SPB Benchmark, VS Benchmark and Sk Tools are proofing it but also Morphgear FPS Benchmarking for example.
fotoingo said:
I agree !
Tried many X1 and Raphael Roms on my 2 devices and the gain of speed is only minor compared to the flying fast TyTN Custom Roms back then.
The only real gain is having removed all the junk and so more free "rom" is avail...
Many people here are like ... THIS or THAT Rom is blazing fast and stuff but if have a real look you will find out that maybe some windows appear a bit faster but the rest is equal...
Benchmark are corroberating my theory ! (I did alot of them ! )
Not only SPB Benchmark, VS Benchmark and Sk Tools are proofing it but also Morphgear FPS Benchmarking for example.
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Also, this phone feels WAY FASTER in stock condition than the diamond and tytn, I know it is not perfect, but man it flies when I put it side by side with the diamond
Best HTC device ever IMHO
i agree that its the best htc phone built so far. but in terms of cooked rom speeds i think its trailing the trailing the best HD and the touch pro ROMs. i think we have a bigger rom for improvement
Formula 1....
Try this one ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478022 . That is definitely fastest rom that i tried. Go ahed take a try...

most energy saving rom?

I remember that in some old Dutty WM6.1 firmware battery lived about 2-2.5 days.
In the latest WM6.5 (R10, R11) firmware the battery does not hold even 12 hours.
For example, on the old firmware by night, I lost about 2%, and about 15% on the new one.
Which WM6.5 firmware is the most energy saving? (not necessarily the Duttys one)
Sorry for my English.
I thing you've got some problems, because I am using R10 Rom and haven't noticed any problems with battery saving.
may be, but nevertheless, if you compare different ROM, you can always choose more energy efficient, so interested in the experience of flashing maniacs
Well, I am certainly not a flashing whore (I only change ROMS once a month or so), but I definitely noticed a huge difference in battery life between Miri's and Energy. That is, on my HD Miri had a much better battery life, whereas Energy drains it a lot faster. A friend of mine mentioned this might be a Radio issue, but I didn't have time to flash during the last few weeks.
i think onkylog (spelling) roms are most energy saving as they are lightweight. check them out....
in b4 fallen spartan locks this thread for rom comparing and tells you to test for yourself.....
Thanks guys, I will try Miri and Onkolog ROMs.
just choose a lightweight rom (topix, dutty etc) and close 3g/HDXXX. and stay away from energy rom lol
6.5 roms use beta builds which naturally use more power perhaps due in part to debugging code. Use 6.1 (eg topix, leo's, dutty 4.1)
indeed had some experience with the energy roms, the latest I used drained my battery in 12 hours, and I'm quite sure it's not a radio issue, I'm currently using Miri's 6.1 based rom.
P.S.
don't get me wrong, its not a spoiler I love the energy roms, and really appreciate the work done, and I might presume that 6.5 is still somehow wrong...
lightweight roms are not always power saving..onkolog's full have so much better life than his s.lites
imranmaz said:
i think onkylog (spelling) roms are most energy saving as they are lightweight. check them out....
in b4 fallen spartan locks this thread for rom comparing and tells you to test for yourself.....
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Well guessed
IMHO best way to tell which roms are best for battery life are to read up on them and most importantly try them.
But just for info, the general rule is that due to enhancements of roms including graphics etc on latest builds, stock roms are best on battery, followed by wm6.1 and then wm6.5. This is a general rule and some roms are an exception. Basically as rom development improves the battery consumption increases....but the actual battery remains the same.
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When to upgrade rom???

I'm a recent buyer of a rhodium and a old diamond. I tried some roms in the diamond in the past year but i would always comeback to the stock rom (because of stability, language (Portuguese) or because of lack of software).
So my question is when to upgrade. Does the upgrade bring some evolution or better use to the devices, or we waste time in this attemp to have the latest novelty and we miss the big picture that is that the devices do not get much better than they already are. sorry for the bad english. I' m portuguese
The custom roms do not only provide the newest software...
In most roms there are a lot of improvements compared to the stock rom.
A few examples are: better video playback, smoother manilla, better use of ram and processor and a lot of other stuff.
That's why I am using custom roms.
So I don't feel that it is waste of my time since it takes like 20 minutes to download and flash a rom.

[Q] Android vs WM6 on X1 (speed, lag, bugs)

I've been using the WM6 roms for years (Energy then Laurenti then Dynamix). The Laurenti and Dynamix roms have been pretty stable and fast. I'm tempted to try the Android roms. How do they compare to the ex. Dynamix rom in terms of speed and stability? Is it comparable or are people porting to Android just for fun?
Please let me know what you think! Thanks!
Hi dear friend.....
I know what do u mean.But,maybe it's not true to compare WM and Android Roms....
U are comparing a platform that it's core is designed for ur device by a Microsoft with a ROM that is cooked by some pro. peoples....
although our developer friends do it great but there are some little bugs,but somebodies that want to experience new stuffs on their device can't give up this interest
I think some builds like honeycomb and Sensedroid are proper for daily use,less bugs and crazy speed
don't miss these experiences.....enjoy ur winmo

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